I think the word "g@y" should stop being used the way it is.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="DrSponge"] Funny, isn't it :lol:matthayter700

Funny, sad, take your pick.

Funny that straight people make a bigger deal out of it than gay people; sad that straight people actually feel offended for the gay people that don't feel offended. I think it's rather ridiculous.

Funny that straight people make a bigger deal out of it than gay people; sad that straight people actually feel offended for the gay people that don't feel offended. I think it's rather ridiculous.

Theokhoth

Not necessarily. I'd rather it be seen that way than for people to assume that if you don't like that use of the word you must be gay yourself. And you don't have to be gay to see the inconsistency I pointed out earlier; did you see that post of mine?

no

it's stupid liberal political correctness to force people to not say certain words that a minority don't like

can't even call black people black anymore

a blind person is "visually challenged"

etc.

no

it's stupid liberal political correctness to force people to not say certain words that a minority don't like

can't even call black people black anymore

a blind person is "visually challenged"

etc.

Deano

no

it's stupid liberal political correctness to force people to not say certain words that a minority don't like

can't even call black people black anymore

a blind person is "visually challenged"

etc.

Deano

This is different, since the problem isn't with calling gay people gay but calling something gay when you mean you don't like it and then claiming you have no problem with gays. It just sounds inconsistent. Hell, I wouldn't even say that it shouldn't be allowed, of course it should be allowed, I'm just saying it sounds rather hypocritical.

EDIT: And for what it's worth, I don't believe in political correctness either. It makes some stereotypes completely taboo and others acceptable, not based on their scientific merit but on whatever arbitrary sensitivity is attached to it, and it seems to have double standards even within these. But you don't have to be wrapped up in political correctness to see the inconsistency.

[QUOTE="matthayter700"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]'

Funny, sad, take your pick.

Theokhoth

Funny that straight people make a bigger deal out of it than gay people; sad that straight people actually feel offended for the gay people that don't feel offended. I think it's rather ridiculous.

The word used to mean happy, and now it is a coloquial term for a homosexual person. The meaning of the word is changing again, get used to it.Taegukki

The question is, why is the meaning of the word changing again? Who is changing it, and why should we accept it? When dendrophilian of youtube says "when I say n***** I don't mean black people, I mean stupid people regardless of race" he isn't taken very seriously because people say it's stupid that he's making up a meaning of the word. But if a new meaning of a word is being made up, what difference does it make whether it's by the majority or by one?

The "its just a word, get over it" argument is so immature. Controlling your language, having some decorum and being respectful requires so little effort and makes such a difference in how people perceive you. Using the word "g@y" or racial slurs may or may not make people think you are a racist or a homophobe, but they certainly make you look selfish and inconsiderate.

Have a little class.

You are degrading yourselves by running around and being crass just because you want to spit in the face of political correctness.

[QUOTE="Deano"]

no

it's stupid liberal political correctness to force people to not say certain words that a minority don't like

can't even call black people black anymore

a blind person is "visually challenged"

etc.

matthayter700

This is different, since the problem isn't with calling gay people gay but calling something gay when you mean you don't like it and then claiming you have no problem with gays. It just sounds inconsistent. Hell, I wouldn't even say that it shouldn't be allowed, of course it should be allowed, I'm just saying it sounds rather hypocritical.

That might be a valid point if "homosexual" was the ONLY meaning of the word gay But it's NOT. So I don't see how it's inconsistent to say that something is gay in a derogatory way, but to still be a total supporter of gay rights. It's about context. I don't get upset every time of of my white friends says "that word that is usually used to refer to black people". It's a matter of context. I also didn't get upset at LOTR, even with its excessive use of black-is-bad symbolism. Again, it's a matter of context.

So when someone says something like "that movie was gay or something like that, it's sort of hard for me to say that they were implicitly referring to homosexual people as being bad. At the very least, I just think that drawing such a conclusion is sort of a stretch.

You wouldn't call something bad "black" or something like that. Bourbons3

Again, that's done OFTEN. And when black people make a fuss about it, it's ironic that (presumably non-black) people criticize them as being P.C. whiners.

Now, don't get me wrong, I don't use the word gay in that manner. I think it just seems childish. I don't get offended or anything, I just think it sounds sort of stupid. But far for me to say that using the word in such a way is a means of persecuting homosexuals. Anyone here who knows me knows about my borderline militant stance about tolerance and equal treatment for gays. But as far as people saying "such and such is gay in an attempt to say that such a thing sucks, I think that that's a lot of smoke. It really DOESN'T say anything about one's attitude or demeanor towards homosexuals.

And while we're at it, is the word "sucks" politically incorrect too? Is there REALLY anything morally wrong with "sucking"? When you say that a movie sucks as a way of saying that the movie was bad, people don't assume that you're a misogynist. People don't assume that you have anything against heterosexual men. The word "sucks" in that context has been used so long that it is now completely separate from ANY anti-women/anti-gay assumptions. Sort of like how the word gay came to be associated with homosexuals by cultural repetition. Same thing with the word gay If the use of the word gay to say that something "sucks" becomes common enough and widespread enough, it too will cease to have any necesary connection to homosexuals.

Language does evolve, and it's possible for the same word/symbol to have MULTIPLE meanings. This is exactly what I was saying back in that confederate battle flag thread.