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#1 Mad_Banana
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What is some proof of God's? existence?

Because I want to believe that life has a purpose and that there is something beyond war, living, school etc

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#2 kulmiye
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Then simply believe my child. Have faith and God will reveal thyself with time.
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#3 JimCarreyForYou
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The internet is a really bad place to ask for spiritual guidance my little friend.
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#4 xTheExploited
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If you have to force yourself to believe in God then you don't truly believe in God. Just live your life the way you feel you should. If you live your life hellbent on the purpose of afterlife then you are basically trying to buy yourself into heaven.
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#5 nZiFFLe
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It's called faith.

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#6 JeM760soCAL
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Going to Church would help.

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#7 cyberdarkkid
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I don't think you really do I think you just want to use us as your guinea pigs.
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#8 mattykovax
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[QUOTE="Mad_Banana"]

What is some proof of God's? existence?

Because I want to believe that life has a purpose and that there is something beyond war, living, school etc

You know. I would be more depressed to think there was a livingbeing behind all that than it being random. "oh god exsists and life still is crap". Not really my thing.
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#9 MrPraline
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"I WANT to believe in God" - I've tried and lied to myself for years, but the truth is that I don't.
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#10 pvtdonut54
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Didn't the Bible say blessed are tjose who have not seen, but believe?

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#11 kulmiye
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What is some proof of God's? existence?

Because I want to believe that life has a purpose and that there is something beyond war, living, school etc

Mad_Banana
Seriously though, no one can tell you what to believe in. You have to find your own beliefs and purpose through endless soul searching on the journey that is life. Who knows, you may end up with what you desire.
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#12 bsman00
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[QUOTE="Mad_Banana"]

What is some proof of God's? existence?

Because I want to believe that life has a purpose and that there is something beyond war, living, school etc

Dude gotta have teh faith......
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#14 VaguelyTagged
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sorry dude! no proof has been found yet

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#15 Mikey132
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What is some proof of God's? existence?

Because I want to believe that life has a purpose and that there is something beyond war, living, school etc

Mad_Banana

You yourself just must not have a purpose. Put your faith in yourself before you put it into something you'll never meet!

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#16 teh_619
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Believe in yourself then. Not in a god they offer you.
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#17 Head_of_games
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I could make a list for you, but 99% of the forum would be ready to start a big argument over every point i bring up. I suggest talking to someone who doesn't spend all their time on a video game website.
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#18 Funky_Llama
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What is some proof of God's? existence?

Because I want to believe that life has a purpose and that there is something beyond war, living, school etc

Mad_Banana

What about existentialism, or humanism? You might want to look into those. You don't necessarily need to believe in God to believe that life has a purpose. And you certainly aren't going to get proof of God anyway.

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#19 FlowGreen
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emm, i dont think you will find an answer here..
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#20 kulmiye
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I could make a list for you, but 99% of the forum would be ready to start a big argument over every point i bring up. I suggest talking to someone who doesn't spend all their time on a video game website.Head_of_games
You should so totally make a list now.
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#21 nimatoad2000
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why would you want to force yourself into believing the nonexistant? believe their is a monster in your closet.. its the same thing
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[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]I could make a list for you, but 99% of the forum would be ready to start a big argument over every point i bring up. I suggest talking to someone who doesn't spend all their time on a video game website.kulmiye
You should so totally make a list now.

Yeah. Then we could jump up and down on it, which would be awesome.
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Well I figured one of the most obvious "proofs" would be yourself but I'm guessing that idea will be shot down pretty quick. One thing that's always seemed to fit the mold of truth in the Bible was how the land mass is so vastly different after the Flood happened. It seems like an obvious and testable idea which was proven accidentally when part of a dam leaked tons of water into some sort huge concrete valve to relieve pressure on the dam.

After only hours of that water staying in the same place, the water was able to just basically tear away most if not all of the cememt tube (I believe it was a few foot thick) and even some of the rock face. I'm not remembering the exact details but I'll be interested in looking it up again, was awhile back I think.

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#24 Ikouze
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I don't think there is any real proof of god out there. Nobody has ever seen him or knows if he exists. The only thing you have to believe god is real is the bible and faith. We don't know f he's out there or if he isn't at all.

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The internet is a really bad place to ask for spiritual guidance my little friend.JimCarreyForYou
QFT. TC will probably get flamed. I'd do the research myself.
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#26 moose_knuckler
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I don't think there is any real proof of god out there. Nobody has ever seen him or knows if he exists. The only thing you have to believe god is real is the bible and faith. We don't know f he's out there or if he isn't at all.

Ikouze

Actually, Moses saw the back of him. But since that's in the Bible I guess everyone needs to have proof of that too then.

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#27 kulmiye
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Yeah. Then we could jump up and down on it, which would be awesome.Funky_Llama
Indeed. Nearly as awesome as the misspelled URL to which words fail to capture its awesomeness. Awesome.
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#28 Funky_Llama
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Well I figured one of the most obvious "proofs" would be yourself but I'm guessing that idea will be shot down pretty quick. One thing that's always seemed to fit the mold of truth in the Bible was how the land mass is so vastly different after the Flood happened. It seems like an obvious and testable idea which was proven accidentally when part of a dam leaked tons of water into some sort huge concrete valve to relieve pressure on the dam.

After only hours of that water staying in the same place, the water was able to just basically tear away most if not all of the cememt tube (I believe it was a few foot thick) and even some of the rock face. I'm not remembering the exact details but I'll be interested in looking it up again, was awhile back I think.

moose_knuckler
Unfortunately, that proves absolutely nothing.
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#29 _glatisant_
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What is some proof of God's? existence?

Because I want to believe that life has a purpose and that there is something beyond war, living, school etc

Mad_Banana

Unfortunately, you can't force yourself to have faith in something, which, by the way, is why pascal's wager fails, but just because you don't believe in a God doesn't make life meaningless or purposeless; look up humanism, as funky suggested. This is a good website: http://www.humanism.org.uk/home. If that's not to your fancy, then try other atheistic philosophies.

You might have a religious experience, but personally I wouldn't count on that happening. Ultimately, you are the only person who can come up with a solution for yourself. You're definitely not going to find any objective proof though.

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#30 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]Yeah. Then we could jump up and down on it, which would be awesome.kulmiye
Indeed. Nearly as awesome as the misspelled URL to which words fail to capture its awesomeness. Awesome.

:lol: I forgot about that sig. I have them turned off, y'see >_>
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#31 Sway-
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There is no proof of god.
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#32 kulmiye
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:lol: I forgot about that sig. I have them turned off, y'see >_>Funky_Llama
It's all cool when it's awesome but back to the original topic. That list must be created.
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#33 BR1NG3R
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There is no proof. If you're going to believe in God, it's going to have to be blind faith.

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#34 Rocky32189
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There is no proof of the existence of a god.
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... Seriously its based on faith, stop going on with this.. If there were proof IT WOULD BE SEEN AS FACT In realms of history and science...
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[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]

Well I figured one of the most obvious "proofs" would be yourself but I'm guessing that idea will be shot down pretty quick. One thing that's always seemed to fit the mold of truth in the Bible was how the land mass is so vastly different after the Flood happened. It seems like an obvious and testable idea which was proven accidentally when part of a dam leaked tons of water into some sort huge concrete valve to relieve pressure on the dam.

After only hours of that water staying in the same place, the water was able to just basically tear away most if not all of the cememt tube (I believe it was a few foot thick) and even some of the rock face. I'm not remembering the exact details but I'll be interested in looking it up again, was awhile back I think.

Funky_Llama

Unfortunately, that proves absolutely nothing.

I guess you missed the whole "Flood's the reason for Earth's landscaping not an asteriod (or something else of that nature, can't think of any atm)" reasoning behind it then.

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[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]

Well I figured one of the most obvious "proofs" would be yourself but I'm guessing that idea will be shot down pretty quick. One thing that's always seemed to fit the mold of truth in the Bible was how the land mass is so vastly different after the Flood happened. It seems like an obvious and testable idea which was proven accidentally when part of a dam leaked tons of water into some sort huge concrete valve to relieve pressure on the dam.

After only hours of that water staying in the same place, the water was able to just basically tear away most if not all of the cememt tube (I believe it was a few foot thick) and even some of the rock face. I'm not remembering the exact details but I'll be interested in looking it up again, was awhile back I think.

Unfortunately, that proves absolutely nothing.

I guess you missed the whole "Flood's the reason for Earth's landscaping not an asteriod" reasoning behind it then.

Nope, I didn't.
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[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]

Well I figured one of the most obvious "proofs" would be yourself but I'm guessing that idea will be shot down pretty quick. One thing that's always seemed to fit the mold of truth in the Bible was how the land mass is so vastly different after the Flood happened. It seems like an obvious and testable idea which was proven accidentally when part of a dam leaked tons of water into some sort huge concrete valve to relieve pressure on the dam.

After only hours of that water staying in the same place, the water was able to just basically tear away most if not all of the cememt tube (I believe it was a few foot thick) and even some of the rock face. I'm not remembering the exact details but I'll be interested in looking it up again, was awhile back I think.

Unfortunately, that proves absolutely nothing.

I guess you missed the whole "Flood's the reason for Earth's landscaping not an asteriod" reasoning behind it then.

... You have no clue what your talking about stop before you even begin.. The Grand Canyon was not created in a matter of minutes by water.. It was caused by erosion over tens of thousands of years by glaciers during the Ice age.. Same goes for things like the Great Lakes.. Perhapes you should do some research on basic geology 101.
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]

Well I figured one of the most obvious "proofs" would be yourself but I'm guessing that idea will be shot down pretty quick. One thing that's always seemed to fit the mold of truth in the Bible was how the land mass is so vastly different after the Flood happened. It seems like an obvious and testable idea which was proven accidentally when part of a dam leaked tons of water into some sort huge concrete valve to relieve pressure on the dam.

After only hours of that water staying in the same place, the water was able to just basically tear away most if not all of the cememt tube (I believe it was a few foot thick) and even some of the rock face. I'm not remembering the exact details but I'll be interested in looking it up again, was awhile back I think.

moose_knuckler

Unfortunately, that proves absolutely nothing.

I guess you missed the whole "Flood's the reason for Earth's landscaping not an asteriod (or something else of that nature, can't think of any atm)" reasoning behind it then.

I don't see where you said that in your original post. I'm curious, how does water desintegrating a cement tube prove that the flood shaped the world the way it is? And why does water not desintegrate all of the other cements it rubs up against in the world?

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[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]Unfortunately, that proves absolutely nothing.sSubZerOo
I guess you missed the whole "Flood's the reason for Earth's landscaping not an asteriod" reasoning behind it then.

... You have no clue what your talking about stop before you even begin.. The Grand Canyon was not created in a matter of minutes by water.. It was caused by erosion over tens of thousands of years by glaciers during the Ice age.. Same goes for things like the Great Lakes.. Perhapes you should do some research on basic geology 101.

lol that was totaly pwnage post.
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How I believe is that some all powerfull being made the universe and watches over us makes just as much sense as random atoms that came from NOWHERE randomly collided and created the universe (The big bang theory creates a paradox see). Someone watching over us and something happening after we die sounds better. Also if we just sit in the ground where does our mental energy go? Energy can't be destoryed. So it's either an after life or reincarnation.

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[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]Unfortunately, that proves absolutely nothing.Funky_Llama
I guess you missed the whole "Flood's the reason for Earth's landscaping not an asteriod" reasoning behind it then.

Nope, I didn't.

mmmk, feel free to fill me in how an accidental occurance like that (with the reasoning in my last post) "proves absolutely nothing".
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#43 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]I guess you missed the whole "Flood's the reason for Earth's landscaping not an asteriod" reasoning behind it then.moose_knuckler
Nope, I didn't.

mmmk, feel free to fill me in how an accidental occurance like that (with the reasoning in my last post) "proves absolutely nothing".

Burden of proof's on you.
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[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]Unfortunately, that proves absolutely nothing.sSubZerOo
I guess you missed the whole "Flood's the reason for Earth's landscaping not an asteriod" reasoning behind it then.

... You have no clue what your talking about stop before you even begin.. The Grand Canyon was not created in a matter of minutes by water.. It was caused by erosion over tens of thousands of years by glaciers during the Ice age.. Same goes for things like the Great Lakes.. Perhapes you should do some research on basic geology 101.

I'm guessing you don't understand the story of the Flood to begin with, before posting something make sure you have the fact straight. Such as, how long the Flood actually lasted. Never did I say Grand Canyon or any other place was formed in only a matter of minutes either.
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]I guess you missed the whole "Flood's the reason for Earth's landscaping not an asteriod" reasoning behind it then.moose_knuckler
... You have no clue what your talking about stop before you even begin.. The Grand Canyon was not created in a matter of minutes by water.. It was caused by erosion over tens of thousands of years by glaciers during the Ice age.. Same goes for things like the Great Lakes.. Perhapes you should do some research on basic geology 101.

I'm guessing you don't understand the story of the Flood to begin with, before posting something make sure you have the fact straight. Such as, how long the Flood actually lasted. Never did I say Grand Canyon or any other place was formed in only a matter of minutes either.

Evidence says that Noah's Flood never happened.
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]I guess you missed the whole "Flood's the reason for Earth's landscaping not an asteriod" reasoning behind it then.moose_knuckler
Nope, I didn't.

mmmk, feel free to fill me in how an accidental occurance like that (with the reasoning in my last post) "proves absolutely nothing".

When a natural event such as a tree falling in the woods occures, the burden of proof is upon to explaining why a magic being we can not observe did it over happen chance and gravity.. If you didn't realize that chance makes a pretty good point at hand.. Look at how vast our universe is.. Its far vaster of numbers we can not possibly comprehend.. Is it so insecure to suggest that we were merely a accident it seems based upon the observations of our natural enviroment? If a natural dieaster did not happen to the dinosaurs for instance, we most likely would never existed.. But happen chance it occured.. It is also suggested that a volcano plunged the planet into a ice age that nearly wiped out the entire human race, and it was merely happen chance that it did not..
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]

Well I figured one of the most obvious "proofs" would be yourself but I'm guessing that idea will be shot down pretty quick. One thing that's always seemed to fit the mold of truth in the Bible was how the land mass is so vastly different after the Flood happened. It seems like an obvious and testable idea which was proven accidentally when part of a dam leaked tons of water into some sort huge concrete valve to relieve pressure on the dam.

After only hours of that water staying in the same place, the water was able to just basically tear away most if not all of the cememt tube (I believe it was a few foot thick) and even some of the rock face. I'm not remembering the exact details but I'll be interested in looking it up again, was awhile back I think.

moose_knuckler

Unfortunately, that proves absolutely nothing.

I guess you missed the whole "Flood's the reason for Earth's landscaping not an asteriod (or something else of that nature, can't think of any atm)" reasoning behind it then.

Have you considered the earth's crust being divided into tectonic plates that move due to convection currents in the mantle? And you clearly have no idea about the pressure required to generate a force large enough to move continents in such a short space of time.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]I guess you missed the whole "Flood's the reason for Earth's landscaping not an asteriod" reasoning behind it then.moose_knuckler
... You have no clue what your talking about stop before you even begin.. The Grand Canyon was not created in a matter of minutes by water.. It was caused by erosion over tens of thousands of years by glaciers during the Ice age.. Same goes for things like the Great Lakes.. Perhapes you should do some research on basic geology 101.

I'm guessing you don't understand the story of the Flood to begin with, before posting something make sure you have the fact straight. Such as, how long the Flood actually lasted. Never did I say Grand Canyon or any other place was formed in only a matter of minutes either.

If you are taking a literal sense of Noah's Ark, than it by no means would come close to the shaping of the planet..
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#49 BumFluff122
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Why does everyone always skip over my questions? It's like when I asked "If nothing can exist outside of space and time then how can God exist outside of space and time?" They never get answered!

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Well I figured one of the most obvious "proofs" would be yourself but I'm guessing that idea will be shot down pretty quick. One thing that's always seemed to fit the mold of truth in the Bible was how the land mass is so vastly different after the Flood happened. It seems like an obvious and testable idea which was proven accidentally when part of a dam leaked tons of water into some sort huge concrete valve to relieve pressure on the dam.

After only hours of that water staying in the same place, the water was able to just basically tear away most if not all of the cememt tube (I believe it was a few foot thick) and even some of the rock face. I'm not remembering the exact details but I'll be interested in looking it up again, was awhile back I think.

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Not only is a global flood impossible, there is absolutely no evidence for it at all.

Continental drift has nothing to do with the flood myth either, unless you believe that continents are floating chunks of rock that can be pushed around by water (which they aren't).

If there was a great flood, how come so many animals have survived? You don't think really think that a boat could fit 5-100 million animals of each gender on it?