If god doesen't exist that what diffrence will it make if I kill, rape or rob.

My faith in humanity has just been driven further down the negative mark. Thank you.

If you do those things you lose some of your humanity. Conscious stops most people from doing those thing, and it is your conscious that makes you human. Without religion there would still be right and wrong because on the human condition.

ok do it and lets see how you feel about it

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People like you make me sad, and you're the reason religion can come up with such stupid arguments as "without God society would be a mess and morals would get thrown out the window, people need religion".

Ever thought it would be nice to be "good" to others just for the heck of it? Or at least "treat others the way you'd like to be treated"? People don't need God or religion to be moral, it should be a personal choice simply because it seems like the right thing to do, and morals don't stem exclusively from religion, they're also there just to help society work and not tear itself apart. Even if the 10 commandments didn't exist people would still have rules in place for society.

I'll just never understand why some people like you think there needs to be some sort of reward in order to do something, or a punishment in order to not do something else. I'd expect a little kid to reason this way, but a grown man or even a teenager? Come on! Think a bit!

As individuals we all have to fulfill certain roles to benefit our community. If all you do is cause harm, the only logical way to act would be to dispose of you. How would we get anywhere as a society if everyone went and robbed, raped and killed? We'd get nowhere.

You have to follow certain rules, often ruled by common sense. If all you do is harm the general community, you don't have a place in it either. While you rot in jail I'll happily enjoy my life.

*facepalm*

People like you make me sad, and you're the reason religion can come up with such stupid arguments as "without God society would be a mess and morals would get thrown out the window, people need religion".

Ever thought it would be nice to be "good" to others just for the heck of it? Or at least "treat others the way you'd like to be treated"? People don't need God or religion to be moral, it should be a personal choice simply because it seems like the right thing to do, and morals don't stem exclusively from religion, they're also there just to help society work and not tear itself apart. Even if the 10 commandments didn't exist people would still have rules in place for society.

I'll just never understand why some people like you think there needs to be some sort of reward in order to do something, or a punishment in order to not do something else. I'd expect a little kid to reason this way, but a grown man or even a teenager? Come on! Think a bit!

black_cat19

Where did most morality come out of? Religion. Most of the moral things. The us is 93 % cCristian and Europe is 89 %

*facepalm*

People like you make me sad, and you're the reason religion can come up with such stupid arguments as "without God society would be a mess and morals would get thrown out the window, people need religion".

Ever thought it would be nice to be "good" to others just for the heck of it? Or at least "treat others the way you'd like to be treated"? People don't need God or religion to be moral, it should be a personal choice simply because it seems like the right thing to do, and morals don't stem exclusively from religion, they're also there just to help society work and not tear itself apart. Even if the 10 commandments didn't exist people would still have rules in place for society.

I'll just never understand why some people like you think there needs to be some sort of reward in order to do something, or a punishment in order to not do something else. I'd expect a little kid to reason this way, but a grown man or even a teenager? Come on! Think a bit!

black_cat19

that.

and if God does'nt get you, Nancy Grace will. You can bet on it.

Where did most morality come out of?-Dark-Rain-

Morality is ultimately just a codification of things that will benefit humanity if everyone practices them. No religion is required in order to figure out that human civilization would not be benefitted by people running around murdering everyone.

[QUOTE="black_cat19"]

*facepalm*

People like you make me sad, and you're the reason religion can come up with such stupid arguments as "without God society would be a mess and morals would get thrown out the window, people need religion".

Ever thought it would be nice to be "good" to others just for the heck of it? Or at least "treat others the way you'd like to be treated"? People don't need God or religion to be moral, it should be a personal choice simply because it seems like the right thing to do, and morals don't stem exclusively from religion, they're also there just to help society work and not tear itself apart. Even if the 10 commandments didn't exist people would still have rules in place for society.

I'll just never understand why some people like you think there needs to be some sort of reward in order to do something, or a punishment in order to not do something else. I'd expect a little kid to reason this way, but a grown man or even a teenager? Come on! Think a bit!

-Dark-Rain-

Where did most morality come out of? Religion. Most of the moral things. The us is 93 % cCristian and Europe is 89 %

So what? If people weren't christian society would probably be a little more open with certain stuff, maybe prostitution wouldn't be illegal, it wouldn't be wrong for any hormone-ridden teenager to watch pron, no one would look down on homosexuals, etc., but chances are there would still be laws in place to punish theft, rape and murder, society needs rules to work properly.

Anyway, all of that is beside the point, read my last parragraph! ^^^

[QUOTE="black_cat19"]

*facepalm*

People like you make me sad, and you're the reason religion can come up with such stupid arguments as "without God society would be a mess and morals would get thrown out the window, people need religion".

Ever thought it would be nice to be "good" to others just for the heck of it? Or at least "treat others the way you'd like to be treated"? People don't need God or religion to be moral, it should be a personal choice simply because it seems like the right thing to do, and morals don't stem exclusively from religion, they're also there just to help society work and not tear itself apart. Even if the 10 commandments didn't exist people would still have rules in place for society.

I'll just never understand why some people like you think there needs to be some sort of reward in order to do something, or a punishment in order to not do something else. I'd expect a little kid to reason this way, but a grown man or even a teenager? Come on! Think a bit!

-Dark-Rain-

Where did most morality come out of? Religion. Most of the moral things. The us is 93 % cCristian and Europe is 89 %

Wow... do you get your information directly from the church? You are off by quite a bit.

[QUOTE="black_cat19"]

*facepalm*

People like you make me sad, and you're the reason religion can come up with such stupid arguments as "without God society would be a mess and morals would get thrown out the window, people need religion".

Ever thought it would be nice to be "good" to others just for the heck of it? Or at least "treat others the way you'd like to be treated"? People don't need God or religion to be moral, it should be a personal choice simply because it seems like the right thing to do, and morals don't stem exclusively from religion, they're also there just to help society work and not tear itself apart. Even if the 10 commandments didn't exist people would still have rules in place for society.

I'll just never understand why some people like you think there needs to be some sort of reward in order to do something, or a punishment in order to not do something else. I'd expect a little kid to reason this way, but a grown man or even a teenager? Come on! Think a bit!

-Dark-Rain-

Where did most morality come out of? Religion. Most of the moral things. The us is 93 % cCristian and Europe is 89 %

Proof? Because morality originates from our genetics which has helped our topsy-turvey species (and ancestors) stay afloat for the past 2 million or so years.

It has that ad over it because of the thing I used for it... but this is what I got out of this topic.

I mean why? It doesn't matter anyway I mean if I don't get caught I can enjoy raping, robbing, and killing. It won't matter when I die becasue I will be gone. You might think it is wrong but how? Morality is man made from religion. There is no righ and wrong. -Dark-Rain-

This has got to be a joke topic!

If it is not, I say what black_cat19 said.

I mean why? It doesn't matter anyway I mean if I don't get caught I can enjoy raping, robbing, and killing. It won't matter when I die becasue I will be gone. You might think it is wrong but how? Morality is man made from religion. There is no righ and wrong. -Dark-Rain-

If god is the only thing stopping you frome raping, robbing, and killing, you seriously need to see a psychiatrist.

Even if God does not exist, I think it's rather evident that humans have a vested interest in getting along with one another, given the fact that humans are social animals. If some psychopath came along intending to rob and murder people, he would find a rather strong resistance among the population in his attempts to carry out those intentions.GabuEx

yes, this.

Humans have built in empathy.

occasionally you get some humans that don't.

It's against the law. I guess if you don't get caught, but that's pretty disturbing.

I mean why? It doesn't matter anyway I mean if I don't get caught I can enjoy raping, robbing, and killing. It won't matter when I die becasue I will be gone. You might think it is wrong but how? Morality is man made from religion. There is no righ and wrong. -Dark-Rain-

Just because there is no god doesn't mean that there is no morality. Morality is man made, not god made. It's wrong to rape, rob and kill because it causes harm to others. If your belief in god is the only thing holding you back from raping, robbing and killing people, that's pretty scary to me.

It would probably matter a good bit to the person you kill/rape.rob.

Starfish on a beach and all that.

I don't believe in god and I have never thought to myself "Gee wouldn't be nice to rob that girl then proceed to rape her and decapitate her after."Nifty_Shark

You just thought of it now!

I mean why? It doesn't matter anyway I mean if I don't get caught I can enjoy raping, robbing, and killing. It won't matter when I die becasue I will be gone. You might think it is wrong but how? Morality is man made from religion. There is no righ and wrong. -Dark-Rain-

\you would feel bad......

Where did most morality come out of? Religion. Most of the moral things. The us is 93 % cCristian and Europe is 89 %

-Dark-Rain-

and religion says it's o.k. to have slaves.

so why don't we have slaves anymore? It's moraly o.k. by your standarts

I mean why? It doesn't matter anyway I mean if I don't get caught I can enjoy raping, robbing, and killing. It won't matter when I die becasue I will be gone. You might think it is wrong but how? Morality is man made from religion. There is no righ and wrong. -Dark-Rain-

Whats the difference between becoming an evil dictator, and a bandit who destroys a civilization?

[QUOTE="-Dark-Rain-"]

Where did most morality come out of? Religion. Most of the moral things. The us is 93 % cCristian and Europe is 89 %

Enosh88

and religion says it's o.k. to have slaves.

so why don't we have slaves anymore? It's moraly o.k. by your standarts

:lol:

You mean just as it's morally okay to stone homosexuals?

Ignorance for the loss.

My faith in humanity has just been driven further down the negative mark. Thank you.

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