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#101 I_Am_Rage
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[QUOTE="I_Am_Rage"] But you could see him. Make a playdate. Besides you saw his post, which could have only shown up on this page if there was a real person behind it. I doubt God will meet you anywhere. Ever.Theokhoth

You could see God. Wait till you die. His post doesn't prove that he made it. It could have been made by a spam bot. Or his mom.

His mom, sure, but still a real person. I doubt a bot could make a post that relates to the context of the thread. And now you're making sure-fire claims about God appearing to me after I die. I say, proof? You still haven't conceded that earlier point to me. It's funny how you conveniently avoided that after I closed off all your exits. ;)
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#102 auron_16
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[QUOTE="auron_16"]

[QUOTE="I_Am_Rage"] There is no generalization here.I_Am_Rage

That, my good man (or woman), is a generalization, and an assumption.

You're generalizing. See, that was easy.

care to tell me where?
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#103 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]You could see God. Wait till you die. His post doesn't prove that he made it. It could have been made by a spam bot. Or his mom.

harashawn

But he would have to exist in order for his mother to post it.

Nuh-huh./ I'm right because I'm right. Seriously, why do have to be so negative?

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#104 I_Am_Rage
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[QUOTE="I_Am_Rage"] You're generalizing. See, that was easy.Theokhoth

See, the difference here is he showed you how you were generalising.:lol:

I didn't need to show it. It was already there. Anyone interested could just read it.
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#105 theBESTplayer10
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[QUOTE="I_Am_Rage"]By the way Theokhoth, I was reading another thread before I typed this one up, and I saw you use the term "goddamn". Now, it seems like you would be a believer in God by the way you're defending dogma in this thread, but it has me confused, because I didn't think a believer in God would use such terms as "goddamn". Am I missing something here?Theokhoth

What can I say? I'm a walking contradiction.

She's just saying that because you're putting up a good fight, & making her look bad...
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#106 Theokhoth
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His mom, sure, but still a real person. I doubt a bot could make a post that relates to the context of the thread. And now you're making sure-fire claims about God appearing to me after I die. I say, proof? You still haven't conceded that earlier point to me. It's funny how you conveniently avoided that after I closed off all your exits. ;)I_Am_Rage

:lol: Funny, you never acknowledged how your best premise has been dismantled, thus I don't need to concede a damn thing to you. It's funny how you ignore everything said to you, and everything anyone else says to you, in favor of silly little ad hominem attacks.

Don't even delude yourself into thinking I'm taking you seriously anymore.

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#107 LikeHaterade
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I say, proof?I_Am_Rage

You speak as if you have overwhelming evidence that proves the reverse. Lets have it.

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#108 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="I_Am_Rage"]By the way Theokhoth, I was reading another thread before I typed this one up, and I saw you use the term "goddamn". Now, it seems like you would be a believer in God by the way you're defending dogma in this thread, but it has me confused, because I didn't think a believer in God would use such terms as "goddamn". Am I missing something here?theBESTplayer10

What can I say? I'm a walking contradiction.

She's just saying that because you're putting up a good fight, & making her look bad...

He's not a she, and everyone knows it.

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#109 I_Am_Rage
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If God was not all knowing, he would not be God. If God was not all powerful, he would not be God. I'll put it this way: I'm sure you've played or at least heard of the game "The Sims". In the game, you can do almost anything you wish with the characters you created. You know everything that is going on in the game, and you can be anywhere at once. You can even pause time and continue to make changes to the game's world. The characters wouldn't be able to understand you, because understanding is not in their programming. They cant comprehend you, but they know you are there. If they get too hungry, or frustrated, they will use gestures to let you know. When you play the game, you are virtually all powerful. God is like the player, and we are the sims. harashawn
So you can do anything you wish to your SIms, except infuse them with the knowledge of their creator? And how could they know you're there if they can't comprehend you? If they can't comprehend you, then for all they know they might just be dreaming that a God exists. And how was this relative to God?!?
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[QUOTE="I_Am_Rage"] So limited in fact, that it couldn't even do a better job at creating a God, making him an impossibility as far as we can understand, and left way to many loopholes in the story. Yes, I agree.harashawn
If God was not all knowing, he would not be God. If God was not all powerful, he would not be God. I'll put it this way: I'm sure you've played or at least heard of the game "The Sims". In the game, you can do almost anything you wish with the characters you created. You know everything that is going on in the game, and you can be anywhere at once. You can even pause time and continue to make changes to the game's world. The characters wouldn't be able to understand you, because understanding is not in their programming. They cant comprehend you, but they know you are there. If they get too hungry, or frustrated, they will use gestures to let you know. When you play the game, you are virtually all powerful. God is like the player, and we are the sims.

I feel like playing the Sims now. I hate you. =(
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#112 harashawn
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Seriously, why do have to be so negative?

Theokhoth
You might want to add a subject to that sentence. :P
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#113 I_Am_Rage
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[QUOTE="I_Am_Rage"]I say, proof?LikeHaterade

You speak as if you have overwhelming evidence that proves the reverse. Lets have it.

You can't prove non-existence. That's completely absurd. Don't try to act tough.
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#114 theBESTplayer10
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[QUOTE="theBESTplayer10"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

What can I say? I'm a walking contradiction.

Theokhoth

She's just saying that because you're putting up a good fight, & making her look bad...

He's not a she, and everyone knows it.

Lol, your prolly right...now lets wait for "her" pointless comeback...*waits*
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#115 Theokhoth
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You might want to add a subject to that sentence. :P harashawn

I did. It's there for anyone to read it.

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#116 I_Am_Rage
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[QUOTE="I_Am_Rage"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

See, the difference here is he showed you how you were generalising.:lol:

Theokhoth

I didn't need to show it. It was already there. Anyone interested could just read it.

:lol: you are such a hypocrite, asking for proof and then going "I don't need to give proof."

He proved that you are generalising. You, however, are not.

Why would I need to give proof when it was already there in front of your face? I just told you where you could find the proof, so essentially it's the same thing.
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#117 ps3wizard45
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I concur with your logic.

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#118 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

[QUOTE="I_Am_Rage"]I say, proof?I_Am_Rage

You speak as if you have overwhelming evidence that proves the reverse. Lets have it.

You can't prove non-existence. That's completely absurd.

Then why the hell did you make this topic?:lol:

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#119 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="I_Am_Rage"] I didn't need to show it. It was already there. Anyone interested could just read it.I_Am_Rage

:lol: you are such a hypocrite, asking for proof and then going "I don't need to give proof."

He proved that you are generalising. You, however, are not.

Why would I need to give proof when it was already there in front of your face? I just told you where you could find the proof, so essentially it's the same thing.

I told you where you can find proof of God: When you die.

His posts have no generalisations. You are so silly!:lol:

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#120 CBR600-RR
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[QUOTE="CBR600-RR"]

Seeing is believing.

Theokhoth

I do not see you. Therefore, you do not exist.

Uh, nice.. do you understand what I mean? :|

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#121 I_Am_Rage
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[QUOTE="theBESTplayer10"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

What can I say? I'm a walking contradiction.

Theokhoth

She's just saying that because you're putting up a good fight, & making her look bad...

He's not a she, and everyone knows it.

Oh really? Ok!!! Hehehe, wow you really are funny. Kinda.

You say that one guy may or may not be a bot, but now you're 100% sure I'm a male? Oh please mister. Do you have a spycam on me right now?

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#122 LikeHaterade
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[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

[QUOTE="I_Am_Rage"]I say, proof?I_Am_Rage

You speak as if you have overwhelming evidence that proves the reverse. Lets have it.

You can't prove non-existence. That's completely absurd. Don't try to act tough.

You can't prove non-existence? You speak to Christians as if they can prove existence, or have to prove it to you specifically. Since Christians HAVE to prove it to you, why don't you HAVE to prove the reverse? I know why. Because you just told me that you couldn't. And I am tough. :x

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#123 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="CBR600-RR"]

Seeing is believing.

CBR600-RR

I do not see you. Therefore, you do not exist.

Uh, nice.. do you understand what I mean? :|

Yes, and I think your meaning is inconsistent. Seeing is not believing.

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#124 auron_16
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[QUOTE="auron_16"]

[QUOTE="I_Am_Rage"]

See, the difference here is he showed you how you were generalising.:lol:

I_Am_Rage

I didn't need to show it. It was already there. Anyone interested could just read it.

:lol: you are such a hypocrite, asking for proof and then going "I don't need to give proof."

He proved that you are generalising. You, however, are not.

You're good at this arguing business, Theokoth.
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#125 harashawn
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So you can do anything you wish to your SIms, except infuse them with the knowledge of their creator? And how could they know you're there if they can't comprehend you? I_Am_Rage
Who said sims don't have faith?
If they can't comprehend you, then for all they know they might just be dreaming that a God exists. And how was this relative to God?!?I_Am_Rage
I said how it's relevant in my post.
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#126 I_Am_Rage
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[QUOTE="I_Am_Rage"] His mom, sure, but still a real person. I doubt a bot could make a post that relates to the context of the thread. And now you're making sure-fire claims about God appearing to me after I die. I say, proof? You still haven't conceded that earlier point to me. It's funny how you conveniently avoided that after I closed off all your exits. ;)Theokhoth

:lol: Funny, you never acknowledged how your best premise has been dismantled, thus I don't need to concede a damn thing to you. It's funny how you ignore everything said to you, and everything anyone else says to you, in favor of silly little ad hominem attacks.

Don't even delude yourself into thinking I'm taking you seriously anymore.

I haven't ignored anyone. I might have missed a reply here and there, but not purposely. I have not used ad hominem attacks, and I knew you weren't taking me seriously from the get-go. But don't woory, I haven't been taking you seriously. I never take trolls seriously.
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#127 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="theBESTplayer10"] She's just saying that because you're putting up a good fight, & making her look bad...I_Am_Rage

He's not a she, and everyone knows it.

Oh really? Ok!!! Hehehe, wow you really are funny. Kinda.

You say that one guy may or may not be a bot, but now you're 100% sure I'm a male? Oh please mister. Do you have a spycam on me right now?

No, it's just I can recognise your smell.

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#128 howlrunner13
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="I_Am_Rage"] His mom, sure, but still a real person. I doubt a bot could make a post that relates to the context of the thread. And now you're making sure-fire claims about God appearing to me after I die. I say, proof? You still haven't conceded that earlier point to me. It's funny how you conveniently avoided that after I closed off all your exits. ;)I_Am_Rage

:lol: Funny, you never acknowledged how your best premise has been dismantled, thus I don't need to concede a damn thing to you. It's funny how you ignore everything said to you, and everything anyone else says to you, in favor of silly little ad hominem attacks.

Don't even delude yourself into thinking I'm taking you seriously anymore.

I haven't ignored anyone. I might have missed a reply here and there, but not purposely. I have not used ad hominem attacks, and I knew you weren't taking me seriously from the get-go. But don't woory, I haven't been taking you seriously. I never take trolls seriously.

:lol:

Wow, you're one to talk.

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#129 auron_16
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="theBESTplayer10"] She's just saying that because you're putting up a good fight, & making her look bad...I_Am_Rage

He's not a she, and everyone knows it.

Oh really? Ok!!! Hehehe, wow you really are funny. Kinda.

You say that one guy may or may not be a bot, but now you're 100% sure I'm a male? Oh please mister. Do you have a spycam on me right now?

who said you're a male?
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#130 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="I_Am_Rage"] His mom, sure, but still a real person. I doubt a bot could make a post that relates to the context of the thread. And now you're making sure-fire claims about God appearing to me after I die. I say, proof? You still haven't conceded that earlier point to me. It's funny how you conveniently avoided that after I closed off all your exits. ;)I_Am_Rage

:lol: Funny, you never acknowledged how your best premise has been dismantled, thus I don't need to concede a damn thing to you. It's funny how you ignore everything said to you, and everything anyone else says to you, in favor of silly little ad hominem attacks.

Don't even delude yourself into thinking I'm taking you seriously anymore.

I haven't ignored anyone.

Replying to someone isn't not ignoring them.;)

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#131 I_Am_Rage
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[QUOTE="I_Am_Rage"][QUOTE="auron_16"] I didn't need to show it. It was already there. Anyone interested could just read it.auron_16

:lol: you are such a hypocrite, asking for proof and then going "I don't need to give proof."

He proved that you are generalising. You, however, are not.

You're good at this arguing business, Theokoth.

Not really. He's only good at being annoying, not that it will ever get him anywhere. He avoids the points I make and acts like I'm saying things I'm not. What did he say about ad hominem? Hmmm. I don't know if I've ever met anyone online who did as much reflecting as he does.

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#132 harashawn
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[QUOTE="harashawn"] You might want to add a subject to that sentence. :P Theokhoth

I did. It's there for anyone to read it.

But I don't know if you're asking why I'm so negative, or if you're asking why you are negative, or if you are asking why anyone else is.
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#133 howlrunner13
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So what exactly was the point of this thread?

You know besides trolling and trying to start a flame war.

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#134 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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I do not approve of your rustic argumentative methods. Stay on topic please.
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#135 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="harashawn"] You might want to add a subject to that sentence. :P harashawn

I did. It's there for anyone to read it.

But I don't know if you're asking why I'm so negative, or if you're asking why you are negative, or if you are asking why anyone else is.

Stop ignoring my points! Wow! You are so pessimistic! Stop reflecting.

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#136 I_Am_Rage
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="I_Am_Rage"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

He's not a she, and everyone knows it.

Oh really? Ok!!! Hehehe, wow you really are funny. Kinda.

You say that one guy may or may not be a bot, but now you're 100% sure I'm a male? Oh please mister. Do you have a spycam on me right now?

No, it's just I can recognise your smell.

If pointless insults are all you can bring to the table, then I don't think anyone will ever take you seriously. My smell? That's so lame. You really think you're cool huh? Sheesh this is getting boring. I thought I was going to have a discussion, not deal with a bunch a tweens trying to impress their friends.
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#137 Theokhoth
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Sheesh this is getting boring. I_Am_Rage

You could always leave. Or wait till you're banned. Again.

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#138 remmbermytitans
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[QUOTE="harashawn"] God is not affected by his own laws. After all, he did create them.

He's a big fat mean mod. He abuses his admin powers. ;) [spoiler] No, not really. *cowers in fear* Go God! [/spoiler]
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#139 theBESTplayer10
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[QUOTE="howlrunner13"]

So what exactly was the point of this thread?

You know besides trolling and trying to start a flame war.

I think he/she just wants attention, I mean look how much he's/she's arguing with everyone! :|
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#140 auron_16
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[QUOTE="auron_16"][QUOTE="I_Am_Rage"]

:lol: you are such a hypocrite, asking for proof and then going "I don't need to give proof."

He proved that you are generalising. You, however, are not.

I_Am_Rage

You're good at this arguing business, Theokoth.

Not really. He's only good at being annoying, not that it will ever get him anywhere. He avoids the points I make and acts like I'm saying things I'm not. What did he say about ad hominem? Hmmm. I don't know if I've ever met anyone online who did as much reflecting as he does.

*scratches head. last I checked, i was directing that comment towards Theokoth. And now people who present viable counter arguments are annoying? Where have I been this last century?
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#141 I_Am_Rage
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="I_Am_Rage"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

He's not a she, and everyone knows it.

Oh really? Ok!!! Hehehe, wow you really are funny. Kinda.

You say that one guy may or may not be a bot, but now you're 100% sure I'm a male? Oh please mister. Do you have a spycam on me right now?

No, it's just I can recognise your smell.

Funny how you avoided admitting wrong again, and turned it around on me. Ironically, I can recognize you and your tactics. They are those of a coward. Just admit you don't know if I'm a male or female. Can't do it? What's wrong? I thought you were a tough guy? Real tough guys can admit wrong.
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#142 auron_16
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I thought I was going to have a discussion, not deal with a bunch a tweens trying to impress their friends.I_Am_Rage
says the user who created the topic. ;)
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#143 harashawn
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[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

I did. It's there for anyone to read it.

Theokhoth

But I don't know if you're asking why I'm so negative, or if you're asking why you are negative, or if you are asking why anyone else is.

Stop ignoring my points! Wow! You are so pessimistic! Stop reflecting.

You're completely ignoring the point of my posts, dude.
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#144 howlrunner13
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[QUOTE="I_Am_Rage"] I thought I was going to have a discussion, not deal with a bunch a tweens trying to impress their friends.auron_16
says the ban dodger who created the topic. ;)

There I fixed it for you.

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#145 I_Am_Rage
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[QUOTE="I_Am_Rage"][QUOTE="auron_16"] You're good at this arguing business, Theokoth. auron_16

Not really. He's only good at being annoying, not that it will ever get him anywhere. He avoids the points I make and acts like I'm saying things I'm not. What did he say about ad hominem? Hmmm. I don't know if I've ever met anyone online who did as much reflecting as he does.

*scratches head. last I checked, i was directing that comment towards Theokoth. And no people who present viable counter arguments are annoying? Where have I been this last century?

He hasn't countered any arguments. He's trolling. Plain and simple. I say one thing, he says I meant something else. I point out what he did, and he turns it around on me. He's just here to flame. I wish he could get a real life instead though. It's sad watching kids waste their time like this.

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It's funny how I_Am_Rage is one of the few users who isn't trolling in this topic.
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#147 CBR600-RR
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[QUOTE="CBR600-RR"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

I do not see you. Therefore, you do not exist.

Theokhoth

Uh, nice.. do you understand what I mean? :|

Yes, and I think your meaning is inconsistent. Seeing is not believing.

Hmph. I just don't think reading a book is going to make me believe something so extreme. I'll believe it when I experience it which is more or less see him with my own eyes.

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#148 I_Am_Rage
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[QUOTE="I_Am_Rage"] I thought I was going to have a discussion, not deal with a bunch a tweens trying to impress their friends.auron_16
says the user who created the topic. ;)

I'm not trying to impress anyone! You should be able to tell that from the serious nature of my first post. Is this just what you guys do when all else fails? Turn it around? And you're still trying to impress your friends with that reply! Sheesh! Boring!
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#149 howlrunner13
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It's funny how I_Am_Rage is one of the few users who isn't trolling in this topic.jointed

Careful, you're posting off topic!

But, seriously, I want to know what point he is trying to make because this thread is moving to fast for me to keep up with.

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#150 I_Am_Rage
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It's funny how I_Am_Rage is one of the few users who isn't trolling in this topic.jointed
Thank you! Exactly! Trolls are calling non-trolls, trolls! I've seen it all now!