If Heath Ledger wasn't dead people wouldnt be making such a big deal.

Thats the truth whether you wanna accept it or not.

He may have been really good in Dark Knight, but people are going overboard, and thats only because everything is being amplified just because of what happened. If he was still alive people would be saying, yeah he was good. Now people are claiming its one of the best performances ever...

I guess thats just the way it is for all entertainers though, from music to acting. Too bad people dont get all the attention while they are still alive, they'd probably like it a lot more.

R.I.P Heath Ledger

Maybe, but that still doesn't change the fact he was one of the best actors around. I'll be seeing Batman due to the all-star cast though with many amazing actors:

Bale (see American Psycho), Oldman (see Léon), Freeman ('nuff said) and Caine (same as Freeman). It won't take much for Ledger to beat Nicholson's performance in the old Batman film, though.

it's not like he died of a disease or an accident or something...I mean he killed himself. Why the hell should we care? Rich hollywood actor who has all the money and all the women he wants doesn't want to live?---> Go **** yourself then, Amirite?Trelaf_TheWise

Did he kill himself? I read that his doctor accidentally gave him a drug overdose...

[QUOTE="Trelaf_TheWise"]it's not like he died of a disease or an accident or something...I mean he killed himself. Why the hell should we care? Rich hollywood actor who has all the money and all the women he wants doesn't want to live?---> Go **** yourself then, Amirite?super_mario_128

Did he kill himself? I read that his doctor accidentally gave him a drug overdose...

...I'm not sure now...if that's the case, ignore my previous post

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[QUOTE="Trelaf_TheWise"]it's not like he died of a disease or an accident or something...I mean he killed himself. Why the hell should we care? Rich hollywood actor who has all the money and all the women he wants doesn't want to live?---> Go **** yourself then, Amirite?Trelaf_TheWise

Did he kill himself? I read that his doctor accidentally gave him a drug overdose...

...I'm not sure now...if that's the case, ignore my previous post

He was on drugs for Pneumonia, sleeping disorders, and pain. I guess they didnt mix well. :|

Maybe, but that still doesn't change the fact he was one of the best actors around. I'll be seeing Batman due to the all-star cast though with many amazing actors:

Bale (see American Psycho), Oldman (see Léon), Freeman ('nuff said) and Caine (same as Freeman). It won't take much for Ledger to beat Nicholson's performance in the old Batman film, though.

super_mario_128

but here's the thing...ledger and nicholson were playing two different jokers...

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Maybe, but that still doesn't change the fact he was one of the best actors around. I'll be seeing Batman due to the all-star cast though with many amazing actors:

Bale (see American Psycho), Oldman (see Léon), Freeman ('nuff said) and Caine (same as Freeman). It won't take much for Ledger to beat Nicholson's performance in the old Batman film, though.

ArmoredAshes

but here's the thing...ledger and nicholson were playing two different jokers...

I don't know whether you're being serious or punny there. :P Could you elaborate more? I think Nicholson is a better actor, however, his performances in The Shining and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest are immense.

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Maybe, but that still doesn't change the fact he was one of the best actors around. I'll be seeing Batman due to the all-star cast though with many amazing actors:

Bale (see American Psycho), Oldman (see Léon), Freeman ('nuff said) and Caine (same as Freeman). It won't take much for Ledger to beat Nicholson's performance in the old Batman film, though.

super_mario_128

but here's the thing...ledger and nicholson were playing two different jokers...

I don't know whether you're being serious or punny there. :P Could you elaborate more? I think Nicholson is a better actor, however, his performances in The Shining and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest are immense.

he's being serious, he isn't talking about the different roles that nicholson or ledger have portrayed, he is talking about the fact that the Jokers portrayed are two very different ones from different comic book backgrounds. Nicholson's Joker is much more the comic book one who is a crazy criminal type whereas ledger's Joker is from the more "graphic novels" which is one who is psychotic and criminally INSANE. Though they are the same characters in that they are the Joker, how the characters were written and influenced are very different. Ledger and Nicholson's Jokers can't be compared to Adam West era's Joker, while still Batman's nemesis, they are different characters.

ur right man, they would just pat him on the back if he was still here nothing more.

because heath is dead, what will happen to the joker in the next film?

BTW i havent watched the dark knight beacause it aint out in the UK yet

Personally, I believe people are watching this more because it's a chance to see Ledger's final acting position. I don't think they're calling the greatest movie ever because he died! I think they're saying it was a really good movie to pay their respects to a good actor in his final movie. Anyone agree?totalmachine

[QUOTE="totalmachine"]Personally, I believe people are watching this more because it's a chance to see Ledger's final acting position. I don't think they're calling the greatest movie ever because he died! I think they're saying it was a really good movie to pay their respects to a good actor in his final movie. Anyone agree?super_mario_128

I'm not saying he didn't put on one of the greatest performances, I'm just sayin that's why everyone is making it a bigger deal than it should be. :P

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="totalmachine"]Personally, I believe people are watching this more because it's a chance to see Ledger's final acting position. I don't think they're calling the greatest movie ever because he died! I think they're saying it was a really good movie to pay their respects to a good actor in his final movie. Anyone agree?totalmachine

I'm not saying he didn't put on one of the greatest performances, I'm just sayin that's why everyone is making it a bigger deal than it should be. :P

You're partly right.
People are making such a big deal out of it becasue he's dead.

But the quality of his performance has been acurately praised.

it's not like he died of a disease or an accident or something...I mean he killed himself. Why the hell should we care? Rich hollywood actor who has all the money and all the women he wants doesn't want to live?---> Go **** yourself then, Amirite?Trelaf_TheWise

he accendently overdosed on sleeping pills and other meds

on topic i guess there is a litlle truth to it, but even if he was alive i would still call it a genious preformance. he got the joker perfectly

Apparently you never saw Brokeback Mountain. Heath Ledger was an actor just beginning to come into his own. Brokeback was a fantastic piece of work by the man, and the Dark Knight is a masterpiece because of how he played Joker.

People would care even more if he wasn't dead, because he would have become one of the brightest young actors in Hollywood.

Thats what I thought at first too until I went and saw the movie, then I realized he lived up to the hype. I told my mom About it and she said that they were hypeing his proformance even before he died.

Thats the truth whether you wanna accept it or not.

He may have been really good in Dark Knight, but people are going overboard, and thats only because everything is being amplified just because of what happened. If he was still alive people would be saying, yeah he was good. Now people are claiming its one of the best performances ever...

I guess thats just the way it is for all entertainers though, from music to acting. Too bad people dont get all the attention while they are still alive, they'd probably like it a lot more.

R.I.P Heath Ledger

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You speak the truth. I hadn't actually seen Ledger in any films bfore I heard he had died and I was more shocked at how young he was. He would have had a great career in front of him.

I think people would be having the same reaction. Its batman..people like batman

i kinda agree. rappers 2pac and Biggie were considered good back in the day and now look at the praise they get(especially B.I.G). same situation with Heath

The performance he gave as Heath Ledger was amazing. His death didn't sadden me until I watched the movie realizing what a great actor he is.

P.S. I think the fact he was dead added a creep factor to his role.

No way. I was pumped for this movie the day they announced it. And when I heard Heath was playing the joker I was skeptical (along with many many others) but I had faith in Nolan, after all, he did bring us the spectacular Memento and Batman Begins. Then when they showed how the joker would look for the first time, I was actually pumped. I LOVED where they were going with the character, and I could already tell Heath was already changing the character around for the better. He made the Joker his own.

I still remember when I saw the first Dark Knight trailer that actually had the joker in it. I was blown away. The guy had nailed the role, and that was just from a few lines in a trailer. Last night I saw the movie (twice) and my god, he did something I never thought possible. He took a comic book character, someone who is so inhumanly twisted and sick and somehow managed to pull it off. I was amazed. It showed just how great of an actor Heath was.

So no, I think you're wrong. I knew Heath would do an amazing job, and his death didn't change my mind in any way. The only thing his death did was made me anticipate it more simply because I was desparate to see his final performance (which oddly is his second to last performance) because I knew it'd be amazing

When Ledger was off screen in that movie I wanted him to be back on he wa amazing.zombieman666

EXACTLY, every single time the Joker is on the screen it's amazing. This comparison has been made before but it really reminds of how it was when I watched 'Silence of the Lambs'. So many scenes with the Joker in that movie I loved.