If I didn't know about Christianity why would you tell me?

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"]Most people are willing to accept even the most liberal or inaccurate English translation as "good enough". But reading the scripture in the original language really brings a whole never level of spirituality and understanding and insight to the process of reading scripture. Every Jewish convert that I know says that they'd never want to go back to reading English translations of the Tanakh.GabuEx

Well, there's liberal and inaccurate, and then there's the King James Version, which has such gems as the inclusion of dragons, satyrs, unicorns, and other mythical creatures due to the translators just making **** up because they didn't know what words meant; blatant mistranslations such as using the word "turtle" instead of "turtledove"; overly complicated phrases like "gave up the ghost" when the original text just says "died"; very formal language despite the fact that Jesus spoke like the commoner that he was in life; finding the word "hell" 40 times more than basically any modern Bible due to the insistance that Sheol and Hades mean "hell"... it's just terrible. And the worst part is that there are people who believe that it is the only valid English Bible to use and that all others are corrupted, mostly on account of the fact that they use the Westcott-Hort Greek New Testament as their basis, whose text is originally Greek, rather than the Textus Receptus, which was translated to Greek from Latin.

...Yeah, this is kind of a pet peeve of mine... :P

...but I have faith in unicorns!!! :cry:

[QUOTE="_rock_"]It's about giving everyone an equal chance to hear the good news, its up to the individual to choose to believe or not. Jesus said make disciples of all nations and be fishers of man.Gunslinger_1988

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"]Most people are willing to accept even the most liberal or inaccurate English translation as "good enough". But reading the scripture in the original language really brings a whole never level of spirituality and understanding and insight to the process of reading scripture. Every Jewish convert that I know says that they'd never want to go back to reading English translations of the Tanakh.jalexbrown

Well, there's liberal and inaccurate, and then there's the King James Version, which has such gems as the inclusion of dragons, satyrs, unicorns, and other mythical creatures due to the translators just making **** up because they didn't know what words meant; blatant mistranslations such as using the word "turtle" instead of "turtledove"; overly complicated phrases like "gave up the ghost" when the original text just says "died"; very formal language despite the fact that Jesus spoke like the commoner that he was in life; finding the word "hell" 40 times more than basically any modern Bible due to the insistance that Sheol and Hades mean "hell"... it's just terrible. And the worst part is that there are people who believe that it is the only valid English Bible to use and that all others are corrupted, mostly on account of the fact that they use the Westcott-Hort Greek New Testament as their basis, whose text is originally Greek, rather than the Textus Receptus, which was translated to Greek from Latin.

...Yeah, this is kind of a pet peeve of mine... :P

Youbetcha.

...but I have faith in unicorns!!! :cry:

dracula_16

Well then the KJV has got your back, bro. :P

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Well, there's liberal and inaccurate, and then there's the King James Version, which has such gems as the inclusion of dragons, satyrs, unicorns, and other mythical creatures due to the translators just making **** up because they didn't know what words meant; blatant mistranslations such as using the word "turtle" instead of "turtledove"; overly complicated phrases like "gave up the ghost" when the original text just says "died"; very formal language despite the fact that Jesus spoke like the commoner that he was in life; finding the word "hell" 40 times more than basically any modern Bible due to the insistance that Sheol and Hades mean "hell"... it's just terrible. And the worst part is that there are people who believe that it is the only valid English Bible to use and that all others are corrupted, mostly on account of the fact that they use the Westcott-Hort Greek New Testament as their basis, whose text is originally Greek, rather than the Textus Receptus, which was translated to Greek from Latin.

...Yeah, this is kind of a pet peeve of mine... :P

GabuEx

Youbetcha.

That's...just...I'm pretty much speechless right now. And a bunch of people must somehow disregard this as being no big deal, becasue KJV is still one of the most popular versions (I think).jalexbrown

Oh, people don't just disregard it; I have actually encountered people that stress that these creatures did in fact exist because the KJV says so. Especially dragons, because that's a favorite place some turn to when attempting to assert that dinosaurs did in fact live alongside humans (the usual line is "by dragon they of course meant dinosaur"). I have even encountered people that say, without a hint of jest, that maybe dinosaurs did actually breathe fire ("you can't prove they didn't!"), and that that's where that aspect of dragonhood came from in popular culture.

...Yeah. I wish I were joking, but I'm dead serious.

It's the smaller branches of Christianity looking for more followers. That's about it. I've never seen a Roman Catholic, Anglican or Protestant knocking on my door in my life.

Espada12

It's the smaller branches of Christianity looking for more followers. That's about it. I've never seen a Roman Catholic, Anglican or Protestant knocking on my door in my life.

Espada12

They send missionaries and people out to Spread the Faith because they want to save your souls. You can't go to Heaven unless you undergo some sort of baptizing, be it a Christian one or one from your religion. Everyone is born with Original Sin from Adam and Eve, this sin has carried over for many generations, it's essentially erased when you get baptized.

Why would Christiansgo around telling people abouttheir religion?
The Bible says to go out and preach the bible, if they truly believe it is fact, then they're only doing it because they believe it is for your own good and to keep you from burning for eternity. Whats so bad about someone caring for you?

If a neutral person was oblivous to Christianity and was exempt from Hell why would you tell them?
What do you meen by "neutral" person? I imagine your talking about a person who is already a believer and goes to church, if so, it is for learning, growing and worshipping. Its to fill there cup so to speak.

Basically, Christianity forces one to follow their beliefs and morals.
Christians don't "force" anyone to do anything, they merely present it, its your choice in the end.

If a child was exempt from Hell why would you tell them about it?
They're going to grow up one day, right?

Christianity tells people "if you don't obey the teachings of God and belief in him you will burn for all eternity"
Yeah, whats your point?

Gunslinger_1988

On their third trip, though, there was a big conflict when a guy starting tearing up a Bible and yelling "**** Jesus". jalexbrown

Now I know what to do next time I'm being hassled by a religious fanatic who won't leave me alone AFTER I say I'm not interested. :evil:

Offensive? None more so then the evangelical condemning me to burn eternally for not believing in a man born 2000 years ago with god delusions.

[QUOTE="Gunslinger_1988"]

Why would Christiansgo around telling people abouttheir religion?
The Bible says to go out and preach the bible, if they truly believe it is fact, then they're only doing it because they believe it is for your own good and to keep you from burning for eternity. Whats so bad about someone caring for you?

If a neutral person was oblivous to Christianity and was exempt from Hell why would you tell them?
What do you meen by "neutral" person? I imagine your talking about a person who is already a believer and goes to church, if so, it is for learning, growing and worshipping. Its to fill there cup so to speak.

Basically, Christianity forces one to follow their beliefs and morals.
Christians don't "force" anyone to do anything, they merely present it, its your choice in the end.

If a child was exempt from Hell why would you tell them about it?
They're going to grow up one day, right?

Christianity tells people "if you don't obey the teachings of God and belief in him you will burn for all eternity"
Yeah, whats your point?

They send missionaries and people out to Spread the Faith because they want to save your souls. You can't go to Heaven unless you undergo some sort of baptizing, be it a Christian one or one from your religion. Everyone is born with Original Sin from Adam and Eve, this sin has carried over for many generations, it's essentially erased when you get baptized.

Snipes_2

I would assume most religions need to seek recruits otherwise they would fade away.

I would assume most religions need to seek recruits otherwise they would fade away.

sonicare

There is a third thing that can keep a religion alive, but it doesn't work on the same level as evangelism: inheritance. Even though Judaism is the smallest of the three main religions, some people feel that it would be altogether dead were it not for the fact that a child can inherit Judaism from its mother.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

It's the smaller branches of Christianity looking for more followers. That's about it. I've never seen a Roman Catholic, Anglican or Protestant knocking on my door in my life.

EMOEVOLUTION

Well I was referring to that except in this case for first world countries such as american etc.. they normally would just come to your house or school.

Matthew 28:16-20

It's part of the great commission. Sharing our faith with those around us is what we are called to do. Though I will admit that a lot of people go about it wrong, very wrong. I myself don't like to simply tell somebody what I believe.I like to converse with people, learn all about their beliefs and share back and forth. I especially like having discussions with muslims, hindus, and wiccans.

I would assume most religions need to seek recruits otherwise they would fade away.

sonicare

[QUOTE="sonicare"]

I would assume most religions need to seek recruits otherwise they would fade away.

Gunslinger_1988

[QUOTE="Gunslinger_1988"][QUOTE="sonicare"]

I would assume most religions need to seek recruits otherwise they would fade away.

F1_2004

Why would Christiansgo around telling people abouttheir religion?
The Bible says to go out and preach the bible, if they truly believe it is fact, then they're only doing it because they believe it is for your own good and to keep you from burning for eternity. Whats so bad about someone caring for you?

Okay, you don't even understand your own beliefs. Not tellinganyone aboutChristianity does more good than bad.

If a neutral person was oblivous to Christianity and was exempt from Hell why would you tell them?
What do you meen by "neutral" person? I imagine your talking about a person who is already a believer and goes to church, if so, it is for learning, growing and worshipping. Its to fill there cup so to speak.

Simple, a person who never hears of Christianity will go to Heaven automatically, that person is exempt from Hell.

Basically, Christianity forces one to follow their beliefs and morals.
Christians don't "force" anyone to do anything, they merely present it, its your choice in the end.

Your God and your beliefs do. Go read the Ten Commandments or your Bible.

If a child was exempt from Hell why would you tell them about it?
They're going to grow up one day, right?

You assume they will hear word of Christianity, eventually? Wrong, what about people before Christ did they all burn in Hell? What about a child who dies before he hears the word of Christ? What about indiginous tribes who never heard the word of Christianity.

Christianity tells people "if you don't obey the teachings of God and belief in him you will burn for all eternity"
Yeah, whats your point?

You're arrogant and ignorant to what your own beliefs. Think before you speak.

I presume you know the in's and out's of Christian belief. To save your soul from hell, obviously...

[QUOTE="F1_2004"][QUOTE="Gunslinger_1988"] Exactly.racer8dan

Well to answer your question. Sure I would tell you. Of course I Would NEVER Force it on you because no one should ever do that. God gave you the choice and if you refuse to believe in him than oh well, you had your chance. I wish more people would look at the brighter side at accepting Jesus and say, wow I get to worship the most compassinate person in the universe and he's right there beside me always looking out for me :).

Why would Christiansgo around telling people abouttheir religion?
The Bible says to go out and preach the bible, if they truly believe it is fact, then they're only doing it because they believe it is for your own good and to keep you from burning for eternity. Whats so bad about someone caring for you?

Okay, you don't even understand your own beliefs. Not tellinganyone aboutChristianity does more good than bad.

If a neutral person was oblivous to Christianity and was exempt from Hell why would you tell them?
What do you meen by "neutral" person? I imagine your talking about a person who is already a believer and goes to church, if so, it is for learning, growing and worshipping. Its to fill there cup so to speak.

Simple, a person who never hears of Christianity will go to Heaven automatically, that person is exempt from Hell.

Gunslinger_1988

Well to answer your question. Sure I would tell you. Of course I Would NEVER Force it on you because no one should ever do that. God gave you the choice and if you refuse to believe in him than oh well, you had your chance. I wish more people would look at the brighter side at accepting Jesus and say, wow I get to worship the most compassinate person in the universe and he's right there beside me always looking out for me :).

gabymimi1

I'm not terribly sure how either compassionate or deserving of worship someone is if you burn in hell if you don't worship him. If my best friend told me that he's got my back always and that we're best buds, but that he would murder me if I ever stopped being his friend, I would imagine I would feel at the very least a rather strong sense of unease.

[QUOTE="gabymimi1"]

Well to answer your question. Sure I would tell you. Of course I Would NEVER Force it on you because no one should ever do that. God gave you the choice and if you refuse to believe in him than oh well, you had your chance. I wish more people would look at the brighter side at accepting Jesus and say, wow I get to worship the most compassinate person in the universe and he's right there beside me always looking out for me :).

GabuEx

I'm not terribly sure how either compassionate or deserving of worship someone is if you burn in hell if you don't worship him. If my best friend told me that he's got my back always and that we're best buds, but that he would murder me if I ever stopped being his friend, I would imagine I would feel at the very least a rather strong sense of unease.

But your friend loves you... :P