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#1 CruxisXIII
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then what is the term for a person who is in his 40s, and has studied the culture of the people he hates? What if he is completely educated, a successful person, and willfully chooses to be a racist?

What do you call those people?

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#2 DJ_Novakain
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idiots?
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#3 cpo335
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People. Just because they don't like another culture doesn;'t make them stupid or jerks.

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jerks...
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Potatoes.
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#6 DJ_Novakain
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People. Just because they don't like another culture doesn;'t make them stupid or jerks.

cpo335
jerks...Luncbox1
lol
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#7 cpo335
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[QUOTE="cpo335"]

People. Just because they don't like another culture doesn;'t make them stupid or jerks.

DJ_Novakain
jerks...Luncbox1
lol

I specifically targetted him and you in my post. Don't you see the EDIT line at the bottom?
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#8 Theokhoth
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Ignorant. . . . .at least the unintelligent people have a reason to hate; the educated person has no excuse for his hatred.
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#9 harden007
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at no point in time has everyone loved everyone.

racism is a byproduct of natural human brain development process's called "chunking" and "association."

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Ignorant. . . . .at least the unintelligent people have a reason to hate; the educated person has no excuse for his hatred.Theokhoth
How so?
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#11 Toriko42
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Idiotic, racists...
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Ignorant. . . . .at least the unintelligent people have a reason to hate; the educated person has no excuse for his hatred.cpo335
How so?

The uneducated person simply believes what he's told, or what he falsely perceives, about a certain race, and hates the race for it.

The educated person knows these perceptions to be false, yet still hates the race.

In this case the educated person is morally inferior to the stupid redneck.

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Ignorant. . . . .at least the unintelligent people have a reason to hate; the educated person has no excuse for his hatred.cpo335
How so?

Racism implies that one dislikes a certain person because they belong to a certain culture. However, one can dislike a culture without automatically hating the people that belong to that said group of people.
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#14 delol
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Interesting question .The first answer that came to my mind is a British Diplomat Sorry to my britidh friends
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#15 harden007
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so what is racism anyways...

according to the dictionary it is this:

"a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others."

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#16 proud722
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Well I suppose foolish to take a person on their colour and not on their behaviour but meh I donno man its the injustice we notice thats all.
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#17 cpo335
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[QUOTE="cpo335"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Ignorant. . . . .at least the unintelligent people have a reason to hate; the educated person has no excuse for his hatred.Luncbox1
How so?

Racism implies that one dislikes a certain person because they belong to a certain culture. However, one can dislike a culture without automatically hating the people that belong to that said group of people.

Thanks for telling me the definition of racism.

Now can you please tell me how an educated person has no reason to hate?

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Why would someone study the cuture he hates?
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#19 The_Ish
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Racist.

There is no ****ing excuse for arbitrarily hating another race.

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#20 harden007
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Why would someone study the cuture he hates?XanderKage

maybe to see if his hatred is justified, or to get ammunition against them in debate.

many athiests study religion so they can better bash it.

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#21 proud722
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Why would someone study the cuture he hates?XanderKage

So they might feel more justified in their hatred by knowing what their talking about it. Even if they twist it to mean what they want it to mean.

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[QUOTE="XanderKage"]Why would someone study the cuture he hates?harden007

maybe to see if his hatred is justified, or to get ammunition against them in debate.

many athiests study religion so they can better bash it.

You would think people have better things to do, guess not... -_-'
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[QUOTE="Luncbox1"][QUOTE="cpo335"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Ignorant. . . . .at least the unintelligent people have a reason to hate; the educated person has no excuse for his hatred.cpo335

How so?

Racism implies that one dislikes a certain person because they belong to a certain culture. However, one can dislike a culture without automatically hating the people that belong to that said group of people.

Thanks for telling me the definition of racism.

Now can you please tell me how an educated person has no reason to hate?

There's a lot of tribal warfare in many parts of Africa. Many Africans do despicable things to each other. It's become part of their culture in some places. Does that mean I have the right to hate people from Africa? No. I hate the people in Africa who are partaking in these horrible acts. I do not hate the majority.
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#24 harden007
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Racist.

There is no ****ing excuse for arbitrarily hating another race.

The_Ish

maybe it's based on experiences.

my uncle is a white guy who went to an all black schools when he was a kid. he used to get his butt kicked every day by the other kids so thats probably the cause of his attitudes.

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#25 DJ_Novakain
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[QUOTE="The_Ish"]

Racist.

There is no ****ing excuse for arbitrarily hating another race.

harden007

maybe it's based on experiences.

my uncle is a white guy who went to an all black schools when he was a kid. he used to get his butt kicked every day by the other kids so thats probably the cause of his attitudes.

A lot of white guys are mean to me. Doesn't mean im going to hate all white people...
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Ignorant. . . . .at least the unintelligent people have a reason to hate; the educated person has no excuse for his hatred.Theokhoth

Good point.

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#27 harden007
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[QUOTE="harden007"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

Racist.

There is no ****ing excuse for arbitrarily hating another race.

DJ_Novakain

maybe it's based on experiences.

my uncle is a white guy who went to an all black schools when he was a kid. he used to get his butt kicked every day by the other kids so thats probably the cause of his attitudes.

A lot of white guys are mean to me. Doesn't mean im going to hate all white people...

true. but if white guys went around beating you up because you were not white, all during your childhood. i would understand why you hated white folks if you did.

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[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="harden007"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

Racist.

There is no ****ing excuse for arbitrarily hating another race.

harden007

maybe it's based on experiences.

my uncle is a white guy who went to an all black schools when he was a kid. he used to get his butt kicked every day by the other kids so thats probably the cause of his attitudes.

A lot of white guys are mean to me. Doesn't mean im going to hate all white people...

true. but if white guys went around beating you up because you were not white, all during your childhood. i would understand why you hated white folks if you did.

I wouldn't...
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[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="harden007"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

Racist.

There is no ****ing excuse for arbitrarily hating another race.

harden007

maybe it's based on experiences.

my uncle is a white guy who went to an all black schools when he was a kid. he used to get his butt kicked every day by the other kids so thats probably the cause of his attitudes.

A lot of white guys are mean to me. Doesn't mean im going to hate all white people...

true. but if white guys went around beating you up because you were not white, all during your childhood. i would understand why you hated white folks if you did.

So he dislikes an entire race because of immature children? :?
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Racists are more likely to be victims of vehicular manslaughter.
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#31 harden007
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[QUOTE="harden007"][QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="harden007"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

Racist.

There is no ****ing excuse for arbitrarily hating another race.

DJ_Novakain

maybe it's based on experiences.

my uncle is a white guy who went to an all black schools when he was a kid. he used to get his butt kicked every day by the other kids so thats probably the cause of his attitudes.

A lot of white guys are mean to me. Doesn't mean im going to hate all white people...

true. but if white guys went around beating you up because you were not white, all during your childhood. i would understand why you hated white folks if you did.

I wouldn't...

good for you...

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[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="harden007"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

Racist.

There is no ****ing excuse for arbitrarily hating another race.

harden007

maybe it's based on experiences.

my uncle is a white guy who went to an all black schools when he was a kid. he used to get his butt kicked every day by the other kids so thats probably the cause of his attitudes.

A lot of white guys are mean to me. Doesn't mean im going to hate all white people...

true. but if white guys went around beating you up because you were not white, all during your childhood. i would understand why you hated white folks if you did.

Well if that were the case you probably couldn't help it. You'd probably get some sort of a bad mental association with white people, like feeling threatened everytime your around them so I think some level of resentment there is understandable. Im not saying its a good thing but I think you should give people that much in those circumstances.

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#33 DJ_Novakain
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[QUOTE="harden007"][QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="harden007"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

Racist.

There is no ****ing excuse for arbitrarily hating another race.

zakkro

maybe it's based on experiences.

my uncle is a white guy who went to an all black schools when he was a kid. he used to get his butt kicked every day by the other kids so thats probably the cause of his attitudes.

A lot of white guys are mean to me. Doesn't mean im going to hate all white people...

true. but if white guys went around beating you up because you were not white, all during your childhood. i would understand why you hated white folks if you did.

So he dislikes an entire race because of immature children? :?

makes total sense!!! :O
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#34 Boba_Fett_3710
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It's always funny when racist people are victim to racism. It's funny because it doesn't put things in perspective the way it should.
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#35 harden007
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[QUOTE="harden007"][QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="harden007"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

Racist.

There is no ****ing excuse for arbitrarily hating another race.

proud722

maybe it's based on experiences.

my uncle is a white guy who went to an all black schools when he was a kid. he used to get his butt kicked every day by the other kids so thats probably the cause of his attitudes.

A lot of white guys are mean to me. Doesn't mean im going to hate all white people...

true. but if white guys went around beating you up because you were not white, all during your childhood. i would understand why you hated white folks if you did.

Well if that were the case you probably couldn't help it. You'd probably get some sort of a bad mental association with white people, like feeling threatened everytime your around them so I think some level of resentment there is understandable. Im not saying its a good thing but I think you should give people that much in those circumstances.

see what im saying. again part of the brain funtions i was talking about earlier: chunking and association.

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[QUOTE="harden007"][QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="harden007"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

Racist.

There is no ****ing excuse for arbitrarily hating another race.

zakkro

maybe it's based on experiences.

my uncle is a white guy who went to an all black schools when he was a kid. he used to get his butt kicked every day by the other kids so thats probably the cause of his attitudes.

A lot of white guys are mean to me. Doesn't mean im going to hate all white people...

true. but if white guys went around beating you up because you were not white, all during your childhood. i would understand why you hated white folks if you did.

So he dislikes an entire race because of immature children? :?

if you want to look at it that way sure. unless you're in someones situation who knows how you would respond.

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[QUOTE="zakkro"][QUOTE="harden007"][QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="harden007"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

Racist.

There is no ****ing excuse for arbitrarily hating another race.

harden007

maybe it's based on experiences.

my uncle is a white guy who went to an all black schools when he was a kid. he used to get his butt kicked every day by the other kids so thats probably the cause of his attitudes.

A lot of white guys are mean to me. Doesn't mean im going to hate all white people...

true. but if white guys went around beating you up because you were not white, all during your childhood. i would understand why you hated white folks if you did.

So he dislikes an entire race because of immature children? :?

if you want to look at it that way sure. unless you're in someones situation who knows how you would respond.

Children make fun of other kid's differences all the time...
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#38 harden007
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It's always funny when racist people are victim to racism. It's funny because it doesn't put things in perspective the way it should.Boba_Fett_3710

because of another brain function called "confirmation bias," where the mind accepts only the data and conclusions that confirm previous conclusions.

when racist people fall victem to racism, they more that likely, i would think, just use their victemhood as confirmation that they are justified in their attitudes.

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[QUOTE="harden007"][QUOTE="zakkro"][QUOTE="harden007"][QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="harden007"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

Racist.

There is no ****ing excuse for arbitrarily hating another race.

zakkro

maybe it's based on experiences.

my uncle is a white guy who went to an all black schools when he was a kid. he used to get his butt kicked every day by the other kids so thats probably the cause of his attitudes.

A lot of white guys are mean to me. Doesn't mean im going to hate all white people...

true. but if white guys went around beating you up because you were not white, all during your childhood. i would understand why you hated white folks if you did.

So he dislikes an entire race because of immature children? :?

if you want to look at it that way sure. unless you're in someones situation who knows how you would respond.

Children make fun of other kid's differences all the time...

and the effects vary

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Dont get the wrong idea. im not endorcing prejudice. but the subject interrests me. and when I see everyone jumping on the "racists are **** ****" bandwagon I thought you should explore things a little more.
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#42 diped
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[QUOTE="cpo335"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Ignorant. . . . .at least the unintelligent people have a reason to hate; the educated person has no excuse for his hatred.Theokhoth

How so?

The uneducated person simply believes what he's told, or what he falsely perceives, about a certain race, and hates the race for it.

The educated person knows these perceptions to be false, yet still hates the race.

In this case the educated person is morally inferior to the stupid redneck.

Thats... not what ignorant means.
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#43 mistervengeance
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i dislike my parent's culture

so i guess that makes me racist :roll:

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#44 harden007
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i dislike my parent's culture

so i guess that makes me racist :roll:

mistervengeance

it probably just means you dislike your parents culture. where is it written that you should like every culture.

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then what is the term for a person who is in his 40s, and has studied the culture of the people he hates? What if he is completely educated, a successful person, and willfully chooses to be a racist?

What do you call those people?

CruxisXIII

the thing is, everyone wants to hate someone.

the people who "HATE" racists would have been racists if they were born 30 years prior.

anti racists and racists are equally ignorant, just looking to hate someone.

i mean how many anti racists do you hear laugh when someone says "Im not racist, I hate everyone equally" its like they condone hatred, but as long as its not "racial"

racists say were different and cant prove it

anti racists say were the same and cant prove it.

scientists dont know what all our genes do, infact they realize they dont know what most even do. Neither side knows anything

I think the best thing to do is, realize were different in some ways and the same in others... but dont hate. and if someone does hate, then if its not directly effecting you then get over it.

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#46 Luncbox1
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Dont get the wrong idea. im not endorcing prejudice. but the subject interrests me. and when I see everyone jumping on the "racists are **** ****" bandwagon I thought you should explore things a little more.harden007
But who says they're jumping on any bandwagon? I can't speak for the others, but I've explored this issue in the past; I've simply ended up on the side of the "bandwagoneers" as a result.
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#47 UssjTrunks
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I'm sure everyone here loves radical Islamic culture.
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#48 Luncbox1
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I'm sure everyone here loves radical Islamic culture.UssjTrunks
But most in Islam aren't radical. Yes, I'm sure we all disagree with the radicals, but that's a minority group that simply takes things way too far.
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#49 wizard90
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I'm sure everyone here loves radical Islamic culture.UssjTrunks

I dont like extremist Christians either, but that dosent mean I hate either religeon.

If there were races/cultures that I disliked, if I met someone from those cultures I would not hold it against them, as an induvidual I would look at them the same as any other, its just their culture I would have a problem with, but I certianly wouldent discuss it with them, it would cause problems.

Not that I do dislike any culture, its just that, disliking someone for what race they are/where they come from is a whole different ballgame from disliking a culture in genera but not on a personal level

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#50 RKfromDownunder
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[QUOTE="cpo335"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Ignorant. . . . .at least the unintelligent people have a reason to hate; the educated person has no excuse for his hatred.Luncbox1
How so?

Racism implies that one dislikes a certain person because they belong to a certain culture. However, one can dislike a culture without automatically hating the people that belong to that said group of people.

Actually thats not strictly true.

That would be more akin to hating an ethnicity rather than a race itself.

I think you'll find that the vast majority of true racists hate a group because of its race i.e. skin colour and not its culture. Groups like the KKK and co. discriminated because of 'perceived' differences between black/brown people and 'white' people.

Plenty of people dislike or disaprove of a culture and have no quarrel with the predominant race that follows it. For example, I know plenty of people who hold an intense level of contempt for Islam but have no quarrel with Arabs/Persians. And Islam, for the most part, IS their culture.

And to answer the TC's question; no I guess that it does not make him ignorrant, in the sense that he is aware of the issues and history surrounding his pet hate. But he would still be ignorant in a biological sense if he hated the group for their race and not their culture, which, assuming from your wording, he does.