If the US was to become a 3rd world country would you move?

I fail to see why you bother debating Canada vs. the US...when we all know that Europe is still the greatest thing this lousy planet has ever seen.

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]Like I said....Numbers don't count when you have better trained soldiers.Vilot_Hero

America has the best trained soliders in the world, and the numbers also show the M16 is faster than the C7. But other than that they are the same gun.

Common sense? :? Are you serious?

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]Like I said....Numbers don't count when you have better trained soldiers.Vilot_Hero

America has the best trained soliders in the world, and the numbers also show the M16 is faster than the C7. But other than that they are the same gun.

besides the fact that Canada is out numbered ridiculously ,seriously think about the numbers of artillery, tanks, air power, sea vassals, missiles, radar/communications, leadership, engineering, etc... it's more than 10 times besides the fact everything is generations ahead in terms of technology compared to canada, how is canda expected to defend its self from that.

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]Like I said....Numbers don't count when you have better trained soldiers.MoonMarvel

America has the best trained soliders in the world, and the numbers also show the M16 is faster than the C7. But other than that they are the same gun.

Common sense? :? Are you serious?

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]Like I said....Numbers don't count when you have better trained soldiers.MoonMarvel

America has the best trained soliders in the world, and the numbers also show the M16 is faster than the C7. But other than that they are the same gun.

Common sense? :? Are you serious?

You can prove that the US has more troops...but it's plain ridiculous to say that they're "better trained". I mean, there's only so much you can do when it comes to individual training...besides, NATO countries exchange taining programs ALL THE TIME.

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]Like I said....Numbers don't count when you have better trained soldiers.MoonMarvel

America has the best trained soliders in the world, and the numbers also show the M16 is faster than the C7. But other than that they are the same gun.

Common sense? :? Are you serious?

well i still havent seen proof that either country has better trained soldiers, but i dont think that having a slightly better gun is preferrable to having over a million more troops.

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]Like I said....Numbers don't count when you have better trained soldiers.Snooky_McGoo

America has the best trained soliders in the world, and the numbers also show the M16 is faster than the C7. But other than that they are the same gun.

besides the fact that Canada is out numbered ridiculous ,seriously think about the numbers of artillery, tanks, air power, sea vassals, missiles, radar/communications, leadership, engineering, etc... it's more than 10 times besides the fact everything is generations ahead in terms of technology compared to canada, how is canda expected to defend its self from that.

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]Like I said....Numbers don't count when you have better trained soldiers.Vilot_Hero

America has the best trained soliders in the world, and the numbers also show the M16 is faster than the C7. But other than that they are the same gun.

Common sense? :? Are you serious?

wheres the proof that canada has better trained troops?

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]Like I said....Numbers don't count when you have better trained soldiers.Vilot_Hero

America has the best trained soliders in the world, and the numbers also show the M16 is faster than the C7. But other than that they are the same gun.

Common sense? :? Are you serious?

The burden of proof is on you. You need the proof as you haven't provided any this whole thread. Also the value of trade between the USA and Canada is $365 billion, that is 28.7% of your GDP and a little over 2% of ours. Most know that by now. You export 79.3% of your stuff to the USA and 54.4% of your imports are American.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ca.html#Econ

It's only 21.4% and 15.7% for the USA.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html#Econ

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]Like I said....Numbers don't count when you have better trained soldiers.jointed

America has the best trained soliders in the world, and the numbers also show the M16 is faster than the C7. But other than that they are the same gun.

Common sense? :? Are you serious?

You can prove that the US has more troops...but it's plain ridiculous to say that they're "better trained". I mean, there's only so much you can do when it comes to individual training...besides, NATO countries exchange taining programs ALL THE TIME.

You do know the US is in NATO right? But by saying Canada > US in terms of military is saying Canada could beat us in a war and we all know that is false.

[QUOTE="Snooky_McGoo"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]Like I said....Numbers don't count when you have better trained soldiers.Vilot_Hero

America has the best trained soliders in the world, and the numbers also show the M16 is faster than the C7. But other than that they are the same gun.

besides the fact that Canada is out numbered ridiculous ,seriously think about the numbers of artillery, tanks, air power, sea vassals, missiles, radar/communications, leadership, engineering, etc... it's more than 10 times besides the fact everything is generations ahead in terms of technology compared to canada, how is canda expected to defend its self from that.

No, you brought it up I just disagreed.

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]Like I said....Numbers don't count when you have better trained soldiers.MoonMarvel

America has the best trained soliders in the world, and the numbers also show the M16 is faster than the C7. But other than that they are the same gun.

Common sense? :? Are you serious?

You can prove that the US has more troops...but it's plain ridiculous to say that they're "better trained". I mean, there's only so much you can do when it comes to individual training...besides, NATO countries exchange taining programs ALL THE TIME.

You do know the US is in NATO right? But by saying Canada > US in terms of military is saying Canada could beat us in a war and we all know that is false.

Ehm...yeah? That's the whole point.

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]Like I said....Numbers don't count when you have better trained soldiers.MoonMarvel

America has the best trained soliders in the world, and the numbers also show the M16 is faster than the C7. But other than that they are the same gun.

Common sense? :? Are you serious?

The burden of proof is on you. You need the proof as you haven't provided any this whole thread. Also the value of trade between the USA and Canada is $365 billion, that is 28.7% of your GDP and a little over 2% of ours. Most know that by now. You export 79.3% of your stuff to the USA and 54.4% of your imports are American.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ca.html#Econ

It's only 21.4% and 15.7% for the USA.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html#Econ

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]Like I said....Numbers don't count when you have better trained soldiers.Vilot_Hero

America has the best trained soliders in the world, and the numbers also show the M16 is faster than the C7. But other than that they are the same gun.

Common sense? :? Are you serious?

The burden of proof is on you. You need the proof as you haven't provided any this whole thread. Also the value of trade between the USA and Canada is $365 billion, that is 28.7% of your GDP and a little over 2% of ours. Most know that by now. You export 79.3% of your stuff to the USA and 54.4% of your imports are American.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ca.html#Econ

It's only 21.4% and 15.7% for the USA.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html#Econ

YOU brought it up not me. Forget it.

[QUOTE="Snooky_McGoo"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]Like I said....Numbers don't count when you have better trained soldiers.Vilot_Hero

America has the best trained soliders in the world, and the numbers also show the M16 is faster than the C7. But other than that they are the same gun.

besides the fact that Canada is out numbered ridiculous ,seriously think about the numbers of artillery, tanks, air power, sea vassals, missiles, radar/communications, leadership, engineering, etc... it's more than 10 times besides the fact everything is generations ahead in terms of technology compared to canada, how is canda expected to defend its self from that.

first of all you brought up the fact that Canada was in Afghanistan alone with no us support, you were wrong.

now your saying someone else brought up "best trained soldier thing" when actually it was you who first mentioned it.

I backed up my points with solid proof, but you haven't done likewise. And your still under the impression, that British North America wasn't Canadian. Maybe you should read through a history text book one time?

If the US became a third-world country, it'd probably destroy the world economy, turning pretty much everywhere into third-world countries.

Would move to the Netherlands or the UK......

Honestly looking at the UK regardless if this happens because of our education system. Don't really want to shell out tons of money to send my children to private school and still get a lack luster educatio for them.

Mafiree

I backed up my points with solid proof, but you haven't done likewise.

Vilot_Hero

You haven't given one iota of proof this entire thread.

If the US became a third-world country, it'd probably destroy the world economy, turning pretty much everywhere into third-world countries.

[QUOTE="Mafiree"]

Would move to the Netherlands or the UK......

Honestly looking at the UK regardless if this happens because of our education system. Don't really want to shell out tons of money to send my children to private school and still get a lack luster educatio for them.

Funky_Llama

I'd love to hear a detailed explanation of why that would happend.

Why did this thread turn into a discussion about the US vs. Canada in military power?

Anyway, I live in Malaysia. If the US turns into a 3rd world country I can't imagine what the hell it's going to be like around the rest of the world.

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

If the US became a third-world country, it'd probably destroy the world economy, turning pretty much everywhere into third-world countries.

[QUOTE="Mafiree"]

Would move to the Netherlands or the UK......

Honestly looking at the UK regardless if this happens because of our education system. Don't really want to shell out tons of money to send my children to private school and still get a lack luster educatio for them.

jointed

I'd love to hear a detailed explanation of why that would happend.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html#Econ

It's the over $3.1 trillion in trade done with the world with us. That would be a pretty big hit.

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]

I backed up my points with solid proof, but you haven't done likewise.

GabuEx

You haven't given one iota of proof this entire thread.

I backed up my points with solid proof, but you haven't done likewise. And your still under the impression, that British North America wasn't Canadian. Maybe you should read through a history text book one time?

Vilot_Hero

I don't want to start anything, but please stop, I don't know if your Canadian or what, but you come off as one, as your disgracing the whole country with your inaccurate claims and false accusations.

Yes I have dude:| I told the guy that British North America was a Canadian establishment/monarchy. The C7 is better than the M16 because of the whole mechanism being gas operated, where you have a rotating bolt in the M16. I proved a few things in this thread.Vilot_Hero

Unsourced assertions are not proof by any means; otherwise, anyone could prove anything by saying so. Conversely, others have offered links to authoritative sources and official facts in defense of their points.

And one question...Do you have a grudge against me? And you never answered my before question(When was I trolling America).Vilot_Hero

At this point, based on everything I've seen, I'm giving it odds of over 50% that you don't believe what you're saying and that you're just out to get a reaction by making outlandish assertions. That is the textbook definition of trolling.

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

If the US became a third-world country, it'd probably destroy the world economy, turning pretty much everywhere into third-world countries.

[QUOTE="Mafiree"]

Would move to the Netherlands or the UK......

Honestly looking at the UK regardless if this happens because of our education system. Don't really want to shell out tons of money to send my children to private school and still get a lack luster educatio for them.

MoonMarvel

I'd love to hear a detailed explanation of why that would happend.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html#Econ

It's the over $3.1 trillion in trade done with the world with us. That would be a pretty big hit.

Such an explanation would have convinced me if I was 12 years old.

Western powers have proven to be largely immune to destrctive force...since they have the ability to rebuild extremely fast. This leaves us with only one explanation as to why the US would turn into a "3rd world country" : economic inferioirty.

If this is the case, then the "lost wealth" you're talking about has simply just shifted hands. If the US is overtaken economically, there have to be an overtaker.

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]Yes I have dude:| I told the guy that British North America was a Canadian establishment/monarchy. The C7 is better than the M16 because of the whole mechanism being gas operated, where you have a rotating bolt in the M16. I proved a few things in this thread.GabuEx

Unsourced assertions are not proof by any means; otherwise, anyone could prove anything by saying so. Conversely, others have offered links to authoritative sources and official facts in defense of their points.

Unsourced? A user posted the weapon specs and the mechanism's of each weapon. Do you want me to post the details of rotating bolt mechanism? Do you think that British North America wasn't Canadian? He said otherwise and I told him he is sorely mistaken. I'll even post a link about the 1812 and British North America.

And one question...Do you have a grudge against me? And you never answered my before question(When was I trolling America).Vilot_Hero

At this point, based on everything I've seen, I'm giving it odds of over 50% that you don't believe what you're saying and that you're just out to get a reaction by making outlandish assertions. That is the textbook definition of trolling.

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

If the US became a third-world country, it'd probably destroy the world economy, turning pretty much everywhere into third-world countries.

[QUOTE="Mafiree"]

Would move to the Netherlands or the UK......

Honestly looking at the UK regardless if this happens because of our education system. Don't really want to shell out tons of money to send my children to private school and still get a lack luster educatio for them.

jointed

I'd love to hear a detailed explanation of why that would happend.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html#Econ

It's the over $3.1 trillion in trade done with the world with us. That would be a pretty big hit.

Such an explanation would have convinced me if I was 12 years old.

Western powers have proven to be largely immune to destrctive force...since they have the ability to rebuild extremely fast. This leaves us with only one explanation as to why the US would turn into a "3rd world country" : economic inferioirty.

If this is the case, then the "lost wealth" you're talking about has simply just shifted hands. If the US is overtaken economically, there have to be an overtaker.

The US isn't economicly inferior, we have a diverse and strong economy going through a rough patch. But are you saying the lose of all business with us wouldn't hurt? Look at what is happening now, most of these markets are reacting to us.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]Yes I have dude:| I told the guy that British North America was a Canadian establishment/monarchy. The C7 is better than the M16 because of the whole mechanism being gas operated, where you have a rotating bolt in the M16. I proved a few things in this thread.Vilot_Hero

Unsourced assertions are not proof by any means; otherwise, anyone could prove anything by saying so. Conversely, others have offered links to authoritative sources and official facts in defense of their points.

Unsourced? A user posted the weapon specs and the mechanism's of each weapon. Do you want me to post the details of rotating bolt mechanism? Do you think that British North America wasn't Canadian? He said otherwise and I told him he is sorely mistaken. I'll even post a link about the 1812 and British North America.

And one question...Do you have a grudge against me? And you never answered my before question(When was I trolling America).Vilot_Hero

At this point, based on everything I've seen, I'm giving it odds of over 50% that you don't believe what you're saying and that you're just out to get a reaction by making outlandish assertions. That is the textbook definition of trolling.

well ive still been waiting for proof that the canadian military has better training.

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]Yes I have dude:| I told the guy that British North America was a Canadian establishment/monarchy. The C7 is better than the M16 because of the whole mechanism being gas operated, where you have a rotating bolt in the M16. I proved a few things in this thread.Xeros606

Unsourced assertions are not proof by any means; otherwise, anyone could prove anything by saying so. Conversely, others have offered links to authoritative sources and official facts in defense of their points.

Unsourced? A user posted the weapon specs and the mechanism's of each weapon. Do you want me to post the details of rotating bolt mechanism? Do you think that British North America wasn't Canadian? He said otherwise and I told him he is sorely mistaken. I'll even post a link about the 1812 and British North America.

And one question...Do you have a grudge against me? And you never answered my before question(When was I trolling America).Vilot_Hero

At this point, based on everything I've seen, I'm giving it odds of over 50% that you don't believe what you're saying and that you're just out to get a reaction by making outlandish assertions. That is the textbook definition of trolling.

well ive still been waiting for proof that the canadian military has better training.

Thats up to interpretation really.

Why did this thread turn into a discussion about the US vs. Canada in military power?

Anyway, I live in Malaysia. If the US turns into a 3rd world country I can't imagine what the hell it's going to be like around the rest of the world.

aliblabla2007

because of vilot hero, moon marvel, and gabuex.

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]Yes I have dude:| I told the guy that British North America was a Canadian establishment/monarchy. The C7 is better than the M16 because of the whole mechanism being gas operated, where you have a rotating bolt in the M16. I proved a few things in this thread.Xeros606

Unsourced assertions are not proof by any means; otherwise, anyone could prove anything by saying so. Conversely, others have offered links to authoritative sources and official facts in defense of their points.

Unsourced? A user posted the weapon specs and the mechanism's of each weapon. Do you want me to post the details of rotating bolt mechanism? Do you think that British North America wasn't Canadian? He said otherwise and I told him he is sorely mistaken. I'll even post a link about the 1812 and British North America.

And one question...Do you have a grudge against me? And you never answered my before question(When was I trolling America).Vilot_Hero

At this point, based on everything I've seen, I'm giving it odds of over 50% that you don't believe what you're saying and that you're just out to get a reaction by making outlandish assertions. That is the textbook definition of trolling.

well ive still been waiting for proof that the canadian military has better training.

you cant compare them, they're both trained for different roles.

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

If the US became a third-world country, it'd probably destroy the world economy, turning pretty much everywhere into third-world countries.

[QUOTE="Mafiree"]

Would move to the Netherlands or the UK......

Honestly looking at the UK regardless if this happens because of our education system. Don't really want to shell out tons of money to send my children to private school and still get a lack luster educatio for them.

MoonMarvel

I'd love to hear a detailed explanation of why that would happend.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html#Econ

It's the over $3.1 trillion in trade done with the world with us. That would be a pretty big hit.

Such an explanation would have convinced me if I was 12 years old.

Western powers have proven to be largely immune to destrctive force...since they have the ability to rebuild extremely fast. This leaves us with only one explanation as to why the US would turn into a "3rd world country" : economic inferioirty.

If this is the case, then the "lost wealth" you're talking about has simply just shifted hands. If the US is overtaken economically, there have to be an overtaker.

The US isn't economicly inferior, we have a diverse and strong economy going through a rough patch. But are you saying the lose of all business with us wouldn't hurt? Look at what is happening now, most of these markets are reacting to us.

We're talking hypotheicals...

This current economic crisis has got nothing to do with the US becoming a 3rd world country..far from it.

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

If the US became a third-world country, it'd probably destroy the world economy, turning pretty much everywhere into third-world countries.

[QUOTE="Mafiree"]

Would move to the Netherlands or the UK......

Honestly looking at the UK regardless if this happens because of our education system. Don't really want to shell out tons of money to send my children to private school and still get a lack luster educatio for them.

jointed

I'd love to hear a detailed explanation of why that would happend.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html#Econ

It's the over $3.1 trillion in trade done with the world with us. That would be a pretty big hit.

Such an explanation would have convinced me if I was 12 years old.

Western powers have proven to be largely immune to destrctive force...since they have the ability to rebuild extremely fast. This leaves us with only one explanation as to why the US would turn into a "3rd world country" : economic inferioirty.

If this is the case, then the "lost wealth" you're talking about has simply just shifted hands. If the US is overtaken economically, there have to be an overtaker.

The US isn't economicly inferior, we have a diverse and strong economy going through a rough patch. But are you saying the lose of all business with us wouldn't hurt? Look at what is happening now, most of these markets are reacting to us.

We're talking hypotheicals...

This current economic crisis has got nothing to do with the US becoming a 3rd world country..far from it.

I don't think we will become a 3rd world country, fall farther but we are closer to a bottom.

1. no that won't happen

2. if it did i would be long gone before it did.

i mean people talk about this economic crisis, and maybe it's just because i haven't gotten into the big financial world yet, but honestly i haven't seen any changes in everyday life.

besides gas prices going down

I wanna leave anyway. Europe may survive, but Japan would rock.MoonMarvel

I never realy understood your "I move to europe if obama wins" Obama is seen as a centrist here at best.

i dont think this will ever happen.

if it did, it would depend.

if we have more freedom than we do now, I would stay.

if we had less or equal to i might leave

If the US suddenly collapsed to the level of a 3rd world country the rest of the world would be in an economic mess as well. Almost nobody is an island anymore.duxup

ireland is an island. after all these years of volcanic activity and sea levels rising and lowering they held up

[QUOTE="duxup"]If the US suddenly collapsed to the level of a 3rd world country the rest of the world would be in an economic mess as well. Almost nobody is an island anymore.Super_Socialist

ireland is an island. after all these years of volcanic activity and sea levels rising and lowering they held up

LOL well economically, but yeah there are islands :P

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

If the US became a third-world country, it'd probably destroy the world economy, turning pretty much everywhere into third-world countries.

[QUOTE="Mafiree"]

Would move to the Netherlands or the UK......

Honestly looking at the UK regardless if this happens because of our education system. Don't really want to shell out tons of money to send my children to private school and still get a lack luster educatio for them.

MoonMarvel

I'd love to hear a detailed explanation of why that would happend.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html#Econ

It's the over $3.1 trillion in trade done with the world with us. That would be a pretty big hit.

Such an explanation would have convinced me if I was 12 years old.

Western powers have proven to be largely immune to destrctive force...since they have the ability to rebuild extremely fast. This leaves us with only one explanation as to why the US would turn into a "3rd world country" : economic inferioirty.

If this is the case, then the "lost wealth" you're talking about has simply just shifted hands. If the US is overtaken economically, there have to be an overtaker.

The US isn't economicly inferior, we have a diverse and strong economy going through a rough patch. But are you saying the lose of all business with us wouldn't hurt? Look at what is happening now, most of these markets are reacting to us.

thats beacose no one is turning away from the US, in a scenario where the US would compleatly fall apart most word goverments would try to shift major trade away from the US to other countrys as soon as posible to minimize the impact of the US economy falling apart, sure it would efect other countrys but it would be far from a doomsday scenario with everything going back to the stone age, that basicly means more trade betwen the EU and russia, China russia, EU canada etc etc. Right now the world is waiting for the US to get it's **** together and basicly leaving everything as it is, only the EU iirc started to increse it's trading with Canada

[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"]

Why did this thread turn into a discussion about the US vs. Canada in military power?

Anyway, I live in Malaysia. If the US turns into a 3rd world country I can't imagine what the hell it's going to be like around the rest of the world.

Xeros606

because of vilot hero, moon marvel, and gabuex.