IF there is no God, then why......

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#1 slackersunited

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Is there anything? How can something come from nothing? OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ZING Atheists!

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-911-

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#2 -911-

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*Dives Into Controversy Bunker*

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#3 Blu_Falcon37

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*Dives Into Controversy Bunker*-911-

Any room in there for me to?:P

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#4 andyxm

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......am i posting another religoius thread?

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#5 jim_shorts

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*Dives Into Controversy Bunker*-911-

you posted that last time

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#6 Caffeine_Trip

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Neither Atheists or Religious people know the answer to that.

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#7 MarioFanatic

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let people believe what they want. i myself think that there is someone who created everything, but i dont go around arguing about others beleifs

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#8 Loonie

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Where did god come from? OHHHH ZING slacker.

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chip_money

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#9 chip_money

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Well who created god then??

OHHHHHH ZIIIIIINGGGGGGG

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#10 Hewkii

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So god can come from nothing, but the universe can't?

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#11 starwarsgeek112

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Just let athiests be athiests.

and athiests just let christians be christians.

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-911-

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#12 -911-

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[QUOTE="-911-"]*Dives Into Controversy Bunker*jim_shorts

you posted that last time

Where were you the last 10 religion topics?

[QUOTE="-911-"]*Dives Into Controversy Bunker*Blu_Falcon37

Any room in there for me to?:P

No, Get your own. :P

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#13 ranger_waha

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Well who created god then??

OHHHHHH ZIIIIIINGGGGGGG
chip_money

18 years ago

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#14 jim_shorts

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So god can come from nothing, but the universe can't?Hewkii

God didn't "come" out of anything.

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#15 Hewkii

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[QUOTE="Hewkii"]So god can come from nothing, but the universe can't?jim_shorts

God didn't "come" out of anything.

so how can he exist?

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#16 jim_shorts

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[QUOTE="jim_shorts"]
[QUOTE="Hewkii"]So god can come from nothing, but the universe can't?Hewkii

God didn't "come" out of anything.

so how can he exist?

it's called omnipotence

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#17 Hewkii

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[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="jim_shorts"]
[QUOTE="Hewkii"]So god can come from nothing, but the universe can't?jim_shorts

God didn't "come" out of anything.

so how can he exist?

it's called omnipotence

but how did he get omnipotence?

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[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="jim_shorts"]
[QUOTE="Hewkii"]So god can come from nothing, but the universe can't?jim_shorts

God didn't "come" out of anything.

so how can he exist?

it's called omnipotence

Do you even know the meaning of omnipotence? Because you seem to be using the word in the wrong context.

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#19 jim_shorts

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[QUOTE="jim_shorts"][QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="jim_shorts"]
[QUOTE="Hewkii"]So god can come from nothing, but the universe can't?Hewkii

God didn't "come" out of anything.

so how can he exist?

it's called omnipotence

but how did he get omnipotence?

You actually think I would know?

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#20 ranger_waha

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[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="jim_shorts"]
[QUOTE="Hewkii"]So god can come from nothing, but the universe can't?jim_shorts

God didn't "come" out of anything.

so how can he exist?

it's called omnipotence

Then maybe everything is omnipotent, and is using said power to make us not notice. Makes as much snese as an invisible man who loves you unconditionaly, yet will damn you to hell eternal if he so chooses.

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#21 yoshi-lnex

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The idea of god is silly.....

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#22 Hewkii

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[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="jim_shorts"][QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="jim_shorts"]
[QUOTE="Hewkii"]So god can come from nothing, but the universe can't?jim_shorts

God didn't "come" out of anything.

so how can he exist?

it's called omnipotence

but how did he get omnipotence?

You actually think I would know?

No.

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#23 MarioFanatic

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why cant we all just get along??? :cry:

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#24 Dark__Link

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Ooo, burn! You got them good!

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Loonie

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#25 Loonie

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[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="jim_shorts"]
[QUOTE="Hewkii"]So god can come from nothing, but the universe can't?jim_shorts

God didn't "come" out of anything.

so how can he exist?

it's called omnipotence

Maybe the universe is omnipotent.

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#26 ranger_waha

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[QUOTE="jim_shorts"][QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="jim_shorts"]
[QUOTE="Hewkii"]So god can come from nothing, but the universe can't?Loonie

God didn't "come" out of anything.

so how can he exist?

it's called omnipotence

Maybe the universe is omnipotent.

I already said it, so I'l just quote you.

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#28 jim_shorts

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[QUOTE="jim_shorts"][QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="jim_shorts"]
[QUOTE="Hewkii"]So god can come from nothing, but the universe can't?Loonie

God didn't "come" out of anything.

so how can he exist?

it's called omnipotence

Maybe the universe is omnipotent.

The universe is not a being. The universe is simply our surroundings as we interpret them

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#29 da_funk4

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Well who created god then??

OHHHHHH ZIIIIIINGGGGGGG
chip_money

fine ill admit it ....I did ok

18 years ago

yoshi-lnex

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#30 yoshi-lnex

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[QUOTE="Loonie"][QUOTE="jim_shorts"][QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="jim_shorts"]
[QUOTE="Hewkii"]So god can come from nothing, but the universe can't?jim_shorts

God didn't "come" out of anything.

so how can he exist?

it's called omnipotence

Maybe the universe is omnipotent.

The universe is not a being. The universe is simply our surroundings as we interpret them

How do you know?

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#31 inyourface_12

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ohh boi a religious topic. how original:roll:

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#32 mark4091

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I guess you can trust people that were around 2000 years ago with no evidence.........

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Loonie

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#33 Loonie

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[QUOTE="Loonie"][QUOTE="jim_shorts"][QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="jim_shorts"]
[QUOTE="Hewkii"]So god can come from nothing, but the universe can't?jim_shorts

God didn't "come" out of anything.

so how can he exist?

it's called omnipotence

Maybe the universe is omnipotent.

The universe is not a being. The universe is simply our surroundings as we interpret them

Deitys are not beings, they are just things created to try and explain what we do not yet know. And control people.

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#34 slackersunited

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I guess you can trust people that were around 2000 years ago with no evidence.........mark4091

This has nothing to do with Christianity. You don't have to believe in Abraham's God to believe in a creator.

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#35 azargushasb

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I guess you can trust people that were around 2000 years ago with no evidence.........mark4091

Hehe I gess you have no clue on evidence do you . Dou you have any ?
I do .
click listen and then play .
http://truthsthattransform.org/ttt.asp?page=topicmessage&id=2582&sr=true

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#36 DaveGamer_05

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Who cares? You're never truly going to understand anything before you die.

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mark4091

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#37 mark4091

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Give me a break, if any god at all existed he/she would show themselves cmon and if they cant they're not so almighty.

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#38 -Karayan-

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[QUOTE="mark4091"]I guess you can trust people that were around 2000 years ago with no evidence.........azargushasb

Hehe I gess you have no clue on evidence do you . Dou you have any ?
I do .
click listen and then play .
http://truthsthattransform.org/ttt.asp?page=topicmessage&id=2582&sr=true

The first sentence of that website: "Christianity is the only evidential, historical religion in the world" :lol:

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#39 yoshi-lnex

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[QUOTE="mark4091"]I guess you can trust people that were around 2000 years ago with no evidence.........azargushasb

Hehe I gess you have no clue on evidence do you . Dou you have any ?
I do .
click listen and then play .
http://truthsthattransform.org/ttt.asp?page=topicmessage&id=2582&sr=true

Wow, I can see from the ads that the site was made by religious crazys...

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#40 Account_27

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[QUOTE="Hewkii"]So god can come from nothing, but the universe can't?jim_shorts

God didn't "come" out of anything.

Yeah, but religion doesn't have to follow any laws. The notion of God is that he was always around, forever.

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#41 azargushasb

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[QUOTE="azargushasb"][QUOTE="mark4091"]I guess you can trust people that were around 2000 years ago with no evidence.........-Karayan-

Hehe I gess you have no clue on evidence do you . Dou you have any ?
I do .
click listen and then play .
http://truthsthattransform.org/ttt.asp?page=topicmessage&id=2582&sr=true

The first sentence of that website: "Christianity is the only evidential, historical religion in the world" :lol:

Did you even give the evidence I give a chance ? Listen and you might discover some things you never knew and don't let your bias interrupt you from coming to truth atheist . Juts give truth a chance .

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#42 xfactor19990

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Well who created god then??

OHHHHHH ZIIIIIINGGGGGGG
chip_money

why dont u answer that? lol who knows, and we probably will never know...........

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#43 ranger_waha

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[QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="azargushasb"][QUOTE="mark4091"]I guess you can trust people that were around 2000 years ago with no evidence.........azargushasb

Hehe I gess you have no clue on evidence do you . Dou you have any ?
I do .
click listen and then play .
http://truthsthattransform.org/ttt.asp?page=topicmessage&id=2582&sr=true

The first sentence of that website: "Christianity is the only evidential, historical religion in the world" :lol:

Did you even give the evidence I give a chance ? Listen and you might discover some things you never knew and don't let your bias interrupt you from coming to truth atheist . Juts give truth a chance .

Fact: religion was a man made construct Fact: Nothing man makes is perfect Fact: You'll never get some people to beleive in an invisible man.

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#44 bastards12345

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So god can be timeless but the universe can't?:roll: At least we know the universe exists.

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#45 miketheroman142

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Well who created god then??

OHHHHHH ZIIIIIINGGGGGGG
chip_money

CHUCK NORRIS!!!!!!!!!

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-Karayan-

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#46 -Karayan-

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[QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="azargushasb"][QUOTE="mark4091"]I guess you can trust people that were around 2000 years ago with no evidence.........azargushasb

Hehe I gess you have no clue on evidence do you . Dou you have any ?
I do .
click listen and then play .
http://truthsthattransform.org/ttt.asp?page=topicmessage&id=2582&sr=true

The first sentence of that website: "Christianity is the only evidential, historical religion in the world" :lol:

Did you even give the evidence I give a chance ? Listen and you might discover some things you never knew and don't let your bias interrupt you from coming to truth atheist . Juts give truth a chance .

I'm sorry, but I won't spend too much time on a website who's first sentence is a complete and utter and rather obvious lie.

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#47 Leu-kun

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*takes out Bible.... opens Bible... takes a beer from it*

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#48 ranger_waha

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[QUOTE="bastards12345"]So god can be timeless but the universe can't?:roll: At least we know the universe exists.

Sort of, yeah. To put it another way, we know we can experience the universe. Who says that god is nothing more than another anomaly, like weather? I'm thinking along the lines of a luck force, which would fit into quantum physics somehow...

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-Karayan-

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#49 -Karayan-

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[QUOTE="ranger_waha"][QUOTE="bastards12345"]So god can be timeless but the universe can't?:roll: At least we know the universe exists.

Sort of, yeah. To put it another way, we know we can experience the universe. Who says that god is nothing more than another anomaly, like weather? I'm thinking along the lines of a luck force, which would fit into quantum physics somehow...

Kind of like Spinoza's god you've got going there. Either way, the laws of physics were created the moment that the quark-gluon-plasma formed the first neutrons and protons. (2 down, 1up and 2 up, 1 down). Therefor the universe could have existed outside the bounds of what we perceive to be the "laws of physics". However, a god creating the universe does not suffer this and therefore remains impossible.

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bastards12345