If United States were changed from 'unofficial to 'official rulers of the world

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="TheWalrusBeast"][QUOTE="lompocus"]

Almost out. page refreshed.

To say we're not self sufficient is just poppy&&&& (so i don't get the banhammer). Now, war is bad and all, but think of it this way. You need to eat and drink in order to work, right? China can BARELY supply its army, and is unable to move it at all due to a lack of a at least semi-modern airforce and the lack of any navy. They want to invade Taiwan, but can't. In fact, you could almost think of Taiwan as a mini-US: It can totally kill China whenever it wants to.

Edit: And on THAT note i'm out too.

muppet1010

Is this a joke? Without American support, Taiwan can't last a day in a war with China. Barely And China can pretty much destroy anyone when it is fighting on its own soil and that includes the US so I wouldnt count on the American army conquering China.

America cant conquer any country it wants... as soon as it picks on one of the Big boys they will gang up and kick the **** out fo america. How do you fail to get it into your head the world>America

and no you couldnt invade China.... even if every American citizen became an effective soldier you would still lose because of China's massive size. And I think its unfair to suggest that China is an un-organised rabble of troops... they are very quickly modernizing.

[QUOTE="BLiTZv3"]

Oh bloody hell. Oy, some of you americans are so dumb sometimes. Really, its not about military power and being powerful country in the world. Wake up from your american dreams and lay your eyes on the world today.

America is the most overrated country.

American kids are war freak (they are), because of those video games concerning wars and war movies. Seriously, some kids are violent, aggresive and arrogant.

Aggresive sports are very popular in USA. They love to fight.

Are you telling me that a country with gun culture is hoping to become world's ruler because the power they got? Then what the difference between an animal and a human being?

lompocus

Back. Ima leave PERMANENTLY after this post.

Let me translate your post in American xD:

Gosh dang, what is it with you Euros? Always blaming it on America. Funny, you call for our help then blame us. Wake up from your European dreams and lay your eyes on the world today:

Europe isn't a superpower anymore

European kids are so weak, and even the current generation shows unwilingness to combat arab incursions into your euro lands.

WTH is soccer? Do guys play that sport?

--Yes, a country with 'gun culture' where people walk to the streets and shoot their neighbor. Oh yes, where the kids kill each other on a daily basis in one city. Where kids are taught to ponder on the frivilous problems in the world adn say its america's fault. Where we march into battle blindly and kill and kill and kill civilians. Uh huh. Suuuuuure.......why don't you come to US yourself? WTH do you think you're typing in English>????????

haha lol... Europe would pwn america in a war... Britain Germany and france would win... add another 30 of the more modernized countries in the world and america is screwed.

Oh yeah and football is the most playd sport in the world(it is not called soccer). Do you just dislike it cause you guys lot to Ghana... seriously america sucks at "soccer"

There's alot of national pride going on here.The United States isn't the 'Unoffical ruler of the World.' The United States doesn't pass legislation in any other country but it's own - i.e it rules noone but itself. The States would never be able to take on the World. I mean, it's doing a FANTASTIC job in Iraq isn't it. A nation on the verge of civil war where everything is in utter termoil and it can't suppress them. It has too many protocols to do so. Like the UK forces won't attack unless they are themselves attacked first. If the UK were allowed to shoot indescriminately at anyone then Iraq would be full of dead bodies. Much like the US would do if they were allowed to do so as well. But as it stands, there are rules to war which would stop the US taking over one country, never mind 150+ other countries simultaneously.

As for the UKs tech being far behind the US', well that's a load. The UK is a world leader in nano tech and stem cell research, not to mentio nthe fact that we invented the jet engine, and then leant you the technologywhich youthen promptly plagarised. All of your war jets wouldn't exist if it were not for us, nor the internet - invented by a British person - nor TV, which by the way was invented by a British person before you came up wit a new design. Then there'snuclear tech. The manhatten project was headed up with a team of international scientists, so you can't even claim rights to that. In fact, the only thing that United States has invented that is worthwhile is the Silicon chip. Don't forget that if you break it down, the British invented The United States! I consider countries like Germany, France, Switzerland, China, India even, far more influential due to their level headedness and their lack of sickening feeling of self worth that every American instils in themselves. If the EU andAsia-Pacific regionbroke away from the US, you would have a hard job maintaining your current standard of living. If your trade with these areas dried up, where would you get your oil or gas, which are disappearing fast. The United States is no stronger than the countries that support it. People like you creates divides such as what has been created in this thread. If the World divides then World peace will be further away than if The States ruled the World as you suggest.

...Think about it. It'd probably be the best dang thing to ever happen since sliced bread. Why would you NOT want the most successful country in the world today (and probably only one after we all get in space and stuff :D) to just be something of a big advisor. Kind of like how states are to countries, Mexico, Canada, etc. would be 'states' of the United States.

That would probably be the road to world peace imo. Just think about it.

*edit* and think about the fact that something like this will doubtless happen. Now, you wouldn't want it to be 'france' or 'China' now, would you?

lompocus

So, a one world government is exactly what this world needs, or just being sarcastic?

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]I'd probably move, seeing as how every other nation on Earth will want to attack America after that.:|Powerhitter0418

Same here, I wouldn't want to live in a country that ruled the world.

It's gonna happen. You have the Union of South American Nations, European Union, African Union, soon will be North American Union before they get Asia to become part of this Union. Once they have all in place, they will offer a unification of all the Union into one, and hence will get our one world govt, one world leader, one world currency etc, all in the same of "security".

[QUOTE="Powerhitter0418"]

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]I'd probably move, seeing as how every other nation on Earth will want to attack America after that.:|Truth_Seekr

Same here, I wouldn't want to live in a country that ruled the world.

It's gonna happen. You have the Union of South American Nations, European Union, African Union, soon will be North American Union before they get Asia to become part of this Union. Once they have all in place, they will offer a unification of all the Union into one, and hence will get our one world govt, one world leader, one world currency etc, all in the same of "security".

[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="Powerhitter0418"]

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]I'd probably move, seeing as how every other nation on Earth will want to attack America after that.:|mig_killer2

Same here, I wouldn't want to live in a country that ruled the world.

It's gonna happen. You have the Union of South American Nations, European Union, African Union, soon will be North American Union before they get Asia to become part of this Union. Once they have all in place, they will offer a unification of all the Union into one, and hence will get our one world govt, one world leader, one world currency etc, all in the same of "security".

When "TERRORIST" are included, this is the only possible solution. Terrorism is the pretext of all this happening.This Dept of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act is another exampleof the power they want over all. These legislations they are ordering in effect will render our Constitution void.However to them, it's important to strip us of our right just so they can find the terrorist amongst the people. In that science of finding terrorist, that isthe truth as to exactly why these Unions have been created, apart from eliminating immigration issues here and abroad(supposedly).

All this time they've been spying on us with the Partriot Act, and barely a handful of "terrorist" have been caught. My liberties are not worth a handful of extremist, so the govt better find another way to do their joband leave us(by that I mean our right)alone.

But of course they need our liberties stripped so that we can't fight as a people against what is at hand.

No way US is going to rule except by force. And forcefully ruling somewhat would make the US the enemy to the rest of the world.

Sure, the US is a huge economy, has great technological innovation and a constitution I can accept. But then again, a lot of the technological innovation is done by non-US students and scientists; the general US population is not very scientifically minded. The US constitution is being undermined by the current government, and the economy is slowly being overtaken by China.

So, no thanks. Until the people on Earth mature enough to agree on much more than their own local interests (not likely), the world is better of as this explosive mix as it is today.

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="Powerhitter0418"]

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]I'd probably move, seeing as how every other nation on Earth will want to attack America after that.:|Truth_Seekr

Same here, I wouldn't want to live in a country that ruled the world.

It's gonna happen. You have the Union of South American Nations, European Union, African Union, soon will be North American Union before they get Asia to become part of this Union. Once they have all in place, they will offer a unification of all the Union into one, and hence will get our one world govt, one world leader, one world currency etc, all in the same of "security".

When "TERRORIST" are included, this is the only possible solution. Terrorism is the pretext of all this happening.This Dept of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act is another exampleof the power they want over all. These legislations they are ordering in effect will render our Constitution void.However to them, it's important to strip us of our right just so they can find the terrorist amongst the people. In that science of finding terrorist, that isthe truth as to exactly why these Unions have been created, apart from eliminating immigration issues here and abroad(supposedly).

All this time they've been spying on us with the Partriot Act, and barely a handful of "terrorist" have been caught. My liberties are not worth a handful of extremist, so the govt better find another way to do their joband leave us(by that I mean our right)alone.

But of course they need our liberties stripped so that we can't fight as a people against what is at hand.

There's alot of national pride going on here.The United States isn't the 'Unoffical ruler of the World.' The United States doesn't pass legislation in any other country but it's own - i.e it rules noone but itself. The States would never be able to take on the World. I mean, it's doing a FANTASTIC job in Iraq isn't it. AliasUK

Well, then what exactly do you call America establishing presence here, there & everywhere else to "liberate" of tyranic ruler and to promote living the American way? Isn't that, ruling other people?

If all our govt wanted to do was liberate Iraq of Hussein, why the hell are they still there trying to promote the American way after they succeeded in executing him?

[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="Powerhitter0418"]

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]I'd probably move, seeing as how every other nation on Earth will want to attack America after that.:|mig_killer2

Same here, I wouldn't want to live in a country that ruled the world.

It's gonna happen. You have the Union of South American Nations, European Union, African Union, soon will be North American Union before they get Asia to become part of this Union. Once they have all in place, they will offer a unification of all the Union into one, and hence will get our one world govt, one world leader, one world currency etc, all in the same of "security".

When "TERRORIST" are included, this is the only possible solution. Terrorism is the pretext of all this happening.This Dept of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act is another exampleof the power they want over all. These legislations they are ordering in effect will render our Constitution void.However to them, it's important to strip us of our right just so they can find the terrorist amongst the people. In that science of finding terrorist, that isthe truth as to exactly why these Unions have been created, apart from eliminating immigration issues here and abroad(supposedly).

All this time they've been spying on us with the Partriot Act, and barely a handful of "terrorist" have been caught. My liberties are not worth a handful of extremist, so the govt better find another way to do their joband leave us(by that I mean our right)alone.

But of course they need our liberties stripped so that we can't fight as a people against what is at hand.

You are aware that the Chief Justice is part of the Freemasons, CFR, & Trilateral Commision, which all have ties to these elitist,right?

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="Powerhitter0418"]

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]I'd probably move, seeing as how every other nation on Earth will want to attack America after that.:|Truth_Seekr

Same here, I wouldn't want to live in a country that ruled the world.

It's gonna happen. You have the Union of South American Nations, European Union, African Union, soon will be North American Union before they get Asia to become part of this Union. Once they have all in place, they will offer a unification of all the Union into one, and hence will get our one world govt, one world leader, one world currency etc, all in the same of "security".

When "TERRORIST" are included, this is the only possible solution. Terrorism is the pretext of all this happening.This Dept of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act is another exampleof the power they want over all. These legislations they are ordering in effect will render our Constitution void.However to them, it's important to strip us of our right just so they can find the terrorist amongst the people. In that science of finding terrorist, that isthe truth as to exactly why these Unions have been created, apart from eliminating immigration issues here and abroad(supposedly).

All this time they've been spying on us with the Partriot Act, and barely a handful of "terrorist" have been caught. My liberties are not worth a handful of extremist, so the govt better find another way to do their joband leave us(by that I mean our right)alone.

But of course they need our liberties stripped so that we can't fight as a people against what is at hand.

You are aware that the Chief Justice is part of the Freemasons, CFR, & Trilateral Commision, which all have ties to these elitist,right?

it doesn't matter. the courts have to oversee these wiretappings

[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

mig_killer2

When "TERRORIST" are included, this is the only possible solution. Terrorism is the pretext of all this happening.This Dept of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act is another exampleof the power they want over all. These legislations they are ordering in effect will render our Constitution void.However to them, it's important to strip us of our right just so they can find the terrorist amongst the people. In that science of finding terrorist, that isthe truth as to exactly why these Unions have been created, apart from eliminating immigration issues here and abroad(supposedly).

All this time they've been spying on us with the Partriot Act, and barely a handful of "terrorist" have been caught. My liberties are not worth a handful of extremist, so the govt better find another way to do their joband leave us(by that I mean our right)alone.

But of course they need our liberties stripped so that we can't fight as a people against what is at hand.

You are aware that the Chief Justice is part of the Freemasons, CFR, & Trilateral Commision, which all have ties to these elitist,right?

it doesn't matter. the courts have to oversee these wiretappings

You dont think they manipulate the courts? And with the Patriot Act, they dont need to go thru any court/committee or what not. The PA gives them the power to do so, all under the pretext that you may be a terrorist.

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

Truth_Seekr

When "TERRORIST" are included, this is the only possible solution. Terrorism is the pretext of all this happening.This Dept of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act is another exampleof the power they want over all. These legislations they are ordering in effect will render our Constitution void.However to them, it's important to strip us of our right just so they can find the terrorist amongst the people. In that science of finding terrorist, that isthe truth as to exactly why these Unions have been created, apart from eliminating immigration issues here and abroad(supposedly).

All this time they've been spying on us with the Partriot Act, and barely a handful of "terrorist" have been caught. My liberties are not worth a handful of extremist, so the govt better find another way to do their joband leave us(by that I mean our right)alone.

But of course they need our liberties stripped so that we can't fight as a people against what is at hand.

You are aware that the Chief Justice is part of the Freemasons, CFR, & Trilateral Commision, which all have ties to these elitist,right?

it doesn't matter. the courts have to oversee these wiretappings

You dont think they manipulate the courts? And with the Patriot Act, they dont need to go thru any court/committee or what not. The PA gives them the power to do so, all under the pretext that you may be a terrorist.

[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

mig_killer2

When "TERRORIST" are included, this is the only possible solution. Terrorism is the pretext of all this happening.This Dept of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act is another exampleof the power they want over all. These legislations they are ordering in effect will render our Constitution void.However to them, it's important to strip us of our right just so they can find the terrorist amongst the people. In that science of finding terrorist, that isthe truth as to exactly why these Unions have been created, apart from eliminating immigration issues here and abroad(supposedly).

All this time they've been spying on us with the Partriot Act, and barely a handful of "terrorist" have been caught. My liberties are not worth a handful of extremist, so the govt better find another way to do their joband leave us(by that I mean our right)alone.

But of course they need our liberties stripped so that we can't fight as a people against what is at hand.

You are aware that the Chief Justice is part of the Freemasons, CFR, & Trilateral Commision, which all have ties to these elitist,right?

it doesn't matter. the courts have to oversee these wiretappings

You dont think they manipulate the courts? And with the Patriot Act, they dont need to go thru any court/committee or what not. The PA gives them the power to do so, all under the pretext that you may be a terrorist.

OMG its a conspiracy!! *Grab my tin foil hat.*

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

prostar343

When "TERRORIST" are included, this is the only possible solution. Terrorism is the pretext of all this happening.This Dept of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act is another exampleof the power they want over all. These legislations they are ordering in effect will render our Constitution void.However to them, it's important to strip us of our right just so they can find the terrorist amongst the people. In that science of finding terrorist, that isthe truth as to exactly why these Unions have been created, apart from eliminating immigration issues here and abroad(supposedly).

All this time they've been spying on us with the Partriot Act, and barely a handful of "terrorist" have been caught. My liberties are not worth a handful of extremist, so the govt better find another way to do their joband leave us(by that I mean our right)alone.

But of course they need our liberties stripped so that we can't fight as a people against what is at hand.

You are aware that the Chief Justice is part of the Freemasons, CFR, & Trilateral Commision, which all have ties to these elitist,right?

it doesn't matter. the courts have to oversee these wiretappings

You dont think they manipulate the courts? And with the Patriot Act, they dont need to go thru any court/committee or what not. The PA gives them the power to do so, all under the pretext that you may be a terrorist.

OMG its a conspiracy!! *Grab my tin foil hat.*

[QUOTE="prostar343"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

mig_killer2

When "TERRORIST" are included, this is the only possible solution. Terrorism is the pretext of all this happening.This Dept of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act is another exampleof the power they want over all. These legislations they are ordering in effect will render our Constitution void.However to them, it's important to strip us of our right just so they can find the terrorist amongst the people. In that science of finding terrorist, that isthe truth as to exactly why these Unions have been created, apart from eliminating immigration issues here and abroad(supposedly).

All this time they've been spying on us with the Partriot Act, and barely a handful of "terrorist" have been caught. My liberties are not worth a handful of extremist, so the govt better find another way to do their joband leave us(by that I mean our right)alone.

But of course they need our liberties stripped so that we can't fight as a people against what is at hand.

You are aware that the Chief Justice is part of the Freemasons, CFR, & Trilateral Commision, which all have ties to these elitist,right?

it doesn't matter. the courts have to oversee these wiretappings

You dont think they manipulate the courts? And with the Patriot Act, they dont need to go thru any court/committee or what not. The PA gives them the power to do so, all under the pretext that you may be a terrorist.

OMG its a conspiracy!! *Grab my tin foil hat.*

Alright. Laugh it off. Come May of next year, we will be succumbed to even more bollocks of this Patriot Act when we have to carry around a new federal id with a scannable barcode that will have all our information on it, and will require us to have this card in order to do the stuff we do today without it. All to, "Keep an eye on the people" Then we'll see how it will affect your life, then maybe you'll laugh some more.

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="prostar343"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

Truth_Seekr

When "TERRORIST" are included, this is the only possible solution. Terrorism is the pretext of all this happening.This Dept of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act is another exampleof the power they want over all. These legislations they are ordering in effect will render our Constitution void.However to them, it's important to strip us of our right just so they can find the terrorist amongst the people. In that science of finding terrorist, that isthe truth as to exactly why these Unions have been created, apart from eliminating immigration issues here and abroad(supposedly).

All this time they've been spying on us with the Partriot Act, and barely a handful of "terrorist" have been caught. My liberties are not worth a handful of extremist, so the govt better find another way to do their joband leave us(by that I mean our right)alone.

But of course they need our liberties stripped so that we can't fight as a people against what is at hand.

You are aware that the Chief Justice is part of the Freemasons, CFR, & Trilateral Commision, which all have ties to these elitist,right?

it doesn't matter. the courts have to oversee these wiretappings

You dont think they manipulate the courts? And with the Patriot Act, they dont need to go thru any court/committee or what not. The PA gives them the power to do so, all under the pretext that you may be a terrorist.

OMG its a conspiracy!! *Grab my tin foil hat.*

Alright. Laugh it off. Come May of next year, we will be succumbed to even more bollocks of this Patriot Act when we have to carry around a new federal id with a scannable barcode that will have all our information on it, and will require us to have this card in order to do the stuff we do today without it. All to, "Keep an eye on the people" Then we'll see how it will affect your life, then maybe you'll laugh some more.

then the Nuclear countries would be repressed.

plus, there's a ticking timebomb underneath the food produciton sites of America. it's called Yellowstone.

[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

:lol:mig_killer2

Alright. Laugh it off. Come May of next year, we will be succumbed to even more bollocks of this Patriot Act when we have to carry around a new federal id with a scannable barcode that will have all our information on it, and will require us to have this card in order to do the stuff we do today without it. All to, "Keep an eye on the people" Then we'll see how it will affect your life, then maybe you'll laugh some more.

thats not going to happen

Yes it is. It's called the REAL ID Act. Take 5, no 2 minutes to look it up before you respond. If you want links, I'd be than glad to make you aware.

The scannable barcode will only be the first steps before they implement a chip in it. All current passports already have this, chip...

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

:lol:Truth_Seekr

Alright. Laugh it off. Come May of next year, we will be succumbed to even more bollocks of this Patriot Act when we have to carry around a new federal id with a scannable barcode that will have all our information on it, and will require us to have this card in order to do the stuff we do today without it. All to, "Keep an eye on the people" Then we'll see how it will affect your life, then maybe you'll laugh some more.

thats not going to happen

Yes it is. It's called the REAL ID Act. Take 5, no 2 minutes to look it up before you respond. If you want links, I'd be than glad to make you aware.

The scannable barcode will only be the first steps before they implement a chip in it. All current passports already have this, chip...

[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

:lol:mig_killer2

Alright. Laugh it off. Come May of next year, we will be succumbed to even more bollocks of this Patriot Act when we have to carry around a new federal id with a scannable barcode that will have all our information on it, and will require us to have this card in order to do the stuff we do today without it. All to, "Keep an eye on the people" Then we'll see how it will affect your life, then maybe you'll laugh some more.

thats not going to happen

Yes it is. It's called the REAL ID Act. Take 5, no 2 minutes to look it up before you respond. If you want links, I'd be than glad to make you aware.

The scannable barcode will only be the first steps before they implement a chip in it. All current passports already have this, chip...

I'm telling you, there is no boundary as to the influence of these elite men. Judge Roberts was MORE than OK with the REAL ID Act.

I doubt I can link these yet, so you're gonna have to do a quick lil copy n paste. Anywho, here you go...

http://www.unrealid.com/

http://www.epic.org/privacy/id_cards/

http://news.cnet.com/FAQ+How+Real+ID+will+affect+you/2100-1028_3-5697111.html

http://www.ncsl.org/realid/

http://www.numbersusa.com/hottopic/0125sensenbrenner.htm

http://www.realnightmare.org/

more?

patriotism = bad

love = good

:)

[QUOTE="AliasUK"]

There's alot of national pride going on here.The United States isn't the 'Unoffical ruler of the World.' The United States doesn't pass legislation in any other country but it's own - i.e it rules noone but itself. The States would never be able to take on the World. I mean, it's doing a FANTASTIC job in Iraq isn't it. Truth_Seekr

Well, then what exactly do you call America establishing presence here, there & everywhere else to "liberate" of tyranic ruler and to promote living the American way? Isn't that, ruling other people?

If all our govt wanted to do was liberate Iraq of Hussein, why the hell are they still there trying to promote the American way after they succeeded in executing him?

Thats not ruling, as Iraq has it's own government. Coalition forces aren't there to promote any 'way', they are there to create peace in Iraq and eventually the middle-east as a whole. They aren't ruling the Iraqi people, they are subsidising them, creating a barrier between civilians and extremists. They arenot themselves passing legislation, but trying to keep law and order on the Iraqi Govts part while the Iraqi Govt themselves pass laws to retain that peace. The Iraqi Govt is in charge of Iraq, and ruling it's people, not any other member of the coalition including the United States, as much as you wish to beleive.

Yeah, having Canada ruled by war-mongering idiots like George W. Bush and people like Hilary Clinton would make this dying world SO much better :roll:

I'd kill myself if that happened.

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

It would probably have the same effect as Nazi Germany ruling the world...

lompocus

Show me where we're butching a particular race.

Show me where we're limiting you free speech.

If you say 'yes' to either of those, tell me why you're still alive, because by your logic you should have been taken by the government by now.

Edit* @ silverdragon: France: Surrenderers. UK: our technology is far more advanced than theirs. China: They have a lower class the size of the population of the United States...Oh, and you have the 'great leap foward'

Mostly anything that is "Politically Incorrect" is just another phrase for "Hey, don't say that. Doesn't sound good for the government." Essentially somewhat limiting freedom of speech. Isn't that soooo Politically Incorrect? :D

[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="AliasUK"]

There's alot of national pride going on here.The United States isn't the 'Unoffical ruler of the World.' The United States doesn't pass legislation in any other country but it's own - i.e it rules noone but itself. The States would never be able to take on the World. I mean, it's doing a FANTASTIC job in Iraq isn't it. AliasUK

Well, then what exactly do you call America establishing presence here, there & everywhere else to "liberate" of tyranic ruler and to promote living the American way? Isn't that, ruling other people?

If all our govt wanted to do was liberate Iraq of Hussein, why the hell are they still there trying to promote the American way after they succeeded in executing him?

Thats not ruling, as Iraq has it's own government. Coalition forces aren't there to promote any 'way', they are there to create peace in Iraq and eventually the middle-east as a whole. They aren't ruling the Iraqi people, they are subsidising them, creating a barrier between civilians and extremists. They arenot themselves passing legislation, but trying to keep law and order on the Iraqi Govts part while the Iraqi Govt themselves pass laws to retain that peace. The Iraqi Govt is in charge of Iraq, and ruling it's people, not any other member of the coalition including the United States, as much as you wish to beleive.

Plz. These people have already infiltrated that govmernment, and they are working to pass American legislations. WHo is the current President of Iraq?

[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

:lol:mig_killer2

Alright. Laugh it off. Come May of next year, we will be succumbed to even more bollocks of this Patriot Act when we have to carry around a new federal id with a scannable barcode that will have all our information on it, and will require us to have this card in order to do the stuff we do today without it. All to, "Keep an eye on the people" Then we'll see how it will affect your life, then maybe you'll laugh some more.

thats not going to happen

Yes it is. It's called the REAL ID Act. Take 5, no 2 minutes to look it up before you respond. If you want links, I'd be than glad to make you aware.

The scannable barcode will only be the first steps before they implement a chip in it. All current passports already have this, chip...

What is up with you today, silly? I think he may be PMS'ing.:roll: He's been rather feisty.

[QUOTE="lompocus"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

It would probably have the same effect as Nazi Germany ruling the world...

TirOrn

Show me where we're butching a particular race.

Show me where we're limiting you free speech.

If you say 'yes' to either of those, tell me why you're still alive, because by your logic you should have been taken by the government by now.

Edit* @ silverdragon: France: Surrenderers. UK: our technology is far more advanced than theirs. China: They have a lower class the size of the population of the United States...Oh, and you have the 'great leap foward'

Mostly anything that is "Politically Incorrect" is just another phrase for "Hey, don't say that. Doesn't sound good for the government." Essentially somewhat limiting freedom of speech. Isn't that soooo Politically Incorrect? :D

Right on!

Lompus, It's not so much that they're butchering a race, but our rights, our Constitution. I wouldnt be surprised if there was another genocide, but for now, it's on paper, this genocide along with whoever falls victim to these staged events.

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

:lol:TirOrn

Alright. Laugh it off. Come May of next year, we will be succumbed to even more bollocks of this Patriot Act when we have to carry around a new federal id with a scannable barcode that will have all our information on it, and will require us to have this card in order to do the stuff we do today without it. All to, "Keep an eye on the people" Then we'll see how it will affect your life, then maybe you'll laugh some more.

thats not going to happen

Yes it is. It's called the REAL ID Act. Take 5, no 2 minutes to look it up before you respond. If you want links, I'd be than glad to make you aware.

The scannable barcode will only be the first steps before they implement a chip in it. All current passports already have this, chip...

What is up with you today, silly? I think he may be PMS'ing.:roll: He's been rather feisty.

Well, I provided the links, so he's either informing himself and is why he hasnt responded back yet. Or saw that those links weren't bollocks, and wont show face to admit I am right, or acknowledge the info(Damage Control).

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

:lol:Truth_Seekr

Alright. Laugh it off. Come May of next year, we will be succumbed to even more bollocks of this Patriot Act when we have to carry around a new federal id with a scannable barcode that will have all our information on it, and will require us to have this card in order to do the stuff we do today without it. All to, "Keep an eye on the people" Then we'll see how it will affect your life, then maybe you'll laugh some more.

thats not going to happen

Yes it is. It's called the REAL ID Act. Take 5, no 2 minutes to look it up before you respond. If you want links, I'd be than glad to make you aware.

The scannable barcode will only be the first steps before they implement a chip in it. All current passports already have this, chip...

I'm telling you, there is no boundary as to the influence of these elite men. Judge Roberts was MORE than OK with the REAL ID Act.

I doubt I can link these yet, so you're gonna have to do a quick lil copy n paste. Anywho, here you go...

http://www.unrealid.com/

http://www.epic.org/privacy/id_cards/

http://news.cnet.com/FAQ+How+Real+ID+will+affect+you/2100-1028_3-5697111.html

http://www.ncsl.org/realid/

http://www.numbersusa.com/hottopic/0125sensenbrenner.htm

http://www.realnightmare.org/

more?

[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

:lol:mig_killer2

Alright. Laugh it off. Come May of next year, we will be succumbed to even more bollocks of this Patriot Act when we have to carry around a new federal id with a scannable barcode that will have all our information on it, and will require us to have this card in order to do the stuff we do today without it. All to, "Keep an eye on the people" Then we'll see how it will affect your life, then maybe you'll laugh some more.

thats not going to happen

Yes it is. It's called the REAL ID Act. Take 5, no 2 minutes to look it up before you respond. If you want links, I'd be than glad to make you aware.

The scannable barcode will only be the first steps before they implement a chip in it. All current passports already have this, chip...

I'm telling you, there is no boundary as to the influence of these elite men. Judge Roberts was MORE than OK with the REAL ID Act.

I doubt I can link these yet, so you're gonna have to do a quick lil copy n paste. Anywho, here you go...

http://www.unrealid.com/

http://www.epic.org/privacy/id_cards/

http://news.cnet.com/FAQ+How+Real+ID+will+affect+you/2100-1028_3-5697111.html

http://www.ncsl.org/realid/

http://www.numbersusa.com/hottopic/0125sensenbrenner.htm

http://www.realnightmare.org/

more?

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

:lol:mig_killer2

Alright. Laugh it off. Come May of next year, we will be succumbed to even more bollocks of this Patriot Act when we have to carry around a new federal id with a scannable barcode that will have all our information on it, and will require us to have this card in order to do the stuff we do today without it. All to, "Keep an eye on the people" Then we'll see how it will affect your life, then maybe you'll laugh some more.

thats not going to happen

Yes it is. It's called the REAL ID Act. Take 5, no 2 minutes to look it up before you respond. If you want links, I'd be than glad to make you aware.

The scannable barcode will only be the first steps before they implement a chip in it. All current passports already have this, chip...

I'm telling you, there is no boundary as to the influence of these elite men. Judge Roberts was MORE than OK with the REAL ID Act.

I doubt I can link these yet, so you're gonna have to do a quick lil copy n paste. Anywho, here you go...

http://www.unrealid.com/

http://www.epic.org/privacy/id_cards/

http://news.cnet.com/FAQ+How+Real+ID+will+affect+you/2100-1028_3-5697111.html

http://www.ncsl.org/realid/

http://www.numbersusa.com/hottopic/0125sensenbrenner.htm

http://www.realnightmare.org/

more?

I'm telling you, it's only the first/maybe second step into keeping an eye on us as a whole so they can control us more efficiently. These damn crooks! On one of those sites, it's like they have a countdown to it, as if to GLORIFY this invasion of privacy and solitude. Yet no one listens, no one questions, no one bothers to think for themselves, and out of all this that is happening to us, that is the saddest part of all.

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

:lol:Truth_Seekr

Alright. Laugh it off. Come May of next year, we will be succumbed to even more bollocks of this Patriot Act when we have to carry around a new federal id with a scannable barcode that will have all our information on it, and will require us to have this card in order to do the stuff we do today without it. All to, "Keep an eye on the people" Then we'll see how it will affect your life, then maybe you'll laugh some more.

thats not going to happen

Yes it is. It's called the REAL ID Act. Take 5, no 2 minutes to look it up before you respond. If you want links, I'd be than glad to make you aware.

The scannable barcode will only be the first steps before they implement a chip in it. All current passports already have this, chip...

I'm telling you, there is no boundary as to the influence of these elite men. Judge Roberts was MORE than OK with the REAL ID Act.

I doubt I can link these yet, so you're gonna have to do a quick lil copy n paste. Anywho, here you go...

http://www.unrealid.com/

http://www.epic.org/privacy/id_cards/

http://news.cnet.com/FAQ+How+Real+ID+will+affect+you/2100-1028_3-5697111.html

http://www.ncsl.org/realid/

http://www.numbersusa.com/hottopic/0125sensenbrenner.htm

http://www.realnightmare.org/

more?

I'm telling you, it's only the first/maybe second step into keeping an eye on us as a whole so they can control us more efficiently. These damn crooks! On one of those sites, it's like they have a countdown to it, as if to GLORIFY this invasion of privacy and solitude. Yet no one listens, no one questions, no one bothers to think for themselves, and out of all this that is happening to us, that is the saddest part of all.

butI can assure you, there isn't gonna be some chip they're gonna inject into us. thats just outrageous

...Think about it. It'd probably be the best dang thing to ever happen since sliced bread. Why would you NOT want the most successful country in the world today (and probably only one after we all get in space and stuff :D) to just be something of a big advisor. Kind of like how states are to countries, Mexico, Canada, etc. would be 'states' of the United States.

That would probably be the road to world peace imo. Just think about it.

*edit* and think about the fact that something like this will doubtless happen. Now, you wouldn't want it to be 'france' or 'China' now, would you?

lompocus

Horrible Idea.

[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"] so, this is required by every person in the US?mig_killer2

I'm telling you, it's only the first/maybe second step into keeping an eye on us as a whole so they can control us more efficiently. These damn crooks! On one of those sites, it's like they have a countdown to it, as if to GLORIFY this invasion of privacy and solitude. Yet no one listens, no one questions, no one bothers to think for themselves, and out of all this that is happening to us, that is the saddest part of all.

but I can assure you, there isn't gonna be some chip they're gonna inject into us. thats just outrageous

I don't know about injecting a chip in us, but we're definitely gonna need to have one on us, one way or the other.
Do you think this is neccessary to stop "terrorism", or it will help stop terrorism.

I call it more,...imperialism. Not the attacks, but what we'reheaded into head first.

ummm, no. Thats actually a horrible idea.Def_Jef88

it must be really horrible, cuz im american and i think its a bad idea

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"] so, this is required by every person in the US?Truth_Seekr

I'm telling you, it's only the first/maybe second step into keeping an eye on us as a whole so they can control us more efficiently. These damn crooks! On one of those sites, it's like they have a countdown to it, as if to GLORIFY this invasion of privacy and solitude. Yet no one listens, no one questions, no one bothers to think for themselves, and out of all this that is happening to us, that is the saddest part of all.

but I can assure you, there isn't gonna be some chip they're gonna inject into us. thats just outrageous

I don't know about injecting a chip in us, but we're definitely gonna need to have one on us, one way or the other.
Do you think this is neccessary to stop "terrorism", or it will help stop terrorism.

I call it more,...imperialism. Not the attacks, but what we'reheaded into head first.

[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"] so, this is required by every person in the US?mig_killer2

I'm telling you, it's only the first/maybe second step into keeping an eye on us as a whole so they can control us more efficiently. These damn crooks! On one of those sites, it's like they have a countdown to it, as if to GLORIFY this invasion of privacy and solitude. Yet no one listens, no one questions, no one bothers to think for themselves, and out of all this that is happening to us, that is the saddest part of all.

but I can assure you, there isn't gonna be some chip they're gonna inject into us. thats just outrageous

I don't know about injecting a chip in us, but we're definitely gonna need to have one on us, one way or the other.
Do you think this is neccessary to stop "terrorism", or it will help stop terrorism.

I call it more,...imperialism. Not the attacks, but what we'reheaded into head first.

Guy,....if it's going to come out in May of next year, what do you think already happened?
It wouldn't be coming next year of it hadn't gone thru all that already, hence the countdown on the National Council State Legislatures website. It's already been approved. Did you really check out those websites?

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"] so, this is required by every person in the US?Truth_Seekr

I'm telling you, it's only the first/maybe second step into keeping an eye on us as a whole so they can control us more efficiently. These damn crooks! On one of those sites, it's like they have a countdown to it, as if to GLORIFY this invasion of privacy and solitude. Yet no one listens, no one questions, no one bothers to think for themselves, and out of all this that is happening to us, that is the saddest part of all.

but I can assure you, there isn't gonna be some chip they're gonna inject into us. thats just outrageous

I don't know about injecting a chip in us, but we're definitely gonna need to have one on us, one way or the other.
Do you think this is neccessary to stop "terrorism", or it will help stop terrorism.

I call it more,...imperialism. Not the attacks, but what we'reheaded into head first.

Guy,....if it's going to come out in May of next year, what do you think already happened?
It wouldn't be coming next year of it hadn't gone thru all that already, hence the countdown on the National Council State Legislatures website. It's already been approved. Did you really check out those websites?

[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

:lol:mig_killer2

Alright. Laugh it off. Come May of next year, we will be succumbed to even more bollocks of this Patriot Act when we have to carry around a new federal id with a scannable barcode that will have all our information on it, and will require us to have this card in order to do the stuff we do today without it. All to, "Keep an eye on the people" Then we'll see how it will affect your life, then maybe you'll laugh some more.

thats not going to happen

Yes it is. It's called the REAL ID Act. Take 5, no 2 minutes to look it up before you respond. If you want links, I'd be than glad to make you aware.

The scannable barcode will only be the first steps before they implement a chip in it. All current passports already have this, chip...

I'm telling you, there is no boundary as to the influence of these elite men. Judge Roberts was MORE than OK with the REAL ID Act.

I doubt I can link these yet, so you're gonna have to do a quick lil copy n paste. Anywho, here you go...

http://www.unrealid.com/

http://www.epic.org/privacy/id_cards/

http://news.cnet.com/FAQ+How+Real+ID+will+affect+you/2100-1028_3-5697111.html

http://www.ncsl.org/realid/

http://www.numbersusa.com/hottopic/0125sensenbrenner.htm

http://www.realnightmare.org/

more?

I'm telling you, it's only the first/maybe second step into keeping an eye on us as a whole so they can control us more efficiently. These damn crooks! On one of those sites, it's like they have a countdown to it, as if to GLORIFY this invasion of privacy and solitude. Yet no one listens, no one questions, no one bothers to think for themselves, and out of all this that is happening to us, that is the saddest part of all.

butI can assure you, there isn't gonna be some chip they're gonna inject into us. thats just outrageous

At the moment the USA is still a Leader and an economic power when it comes to the rest of the world. I fear however that like every other empire in the world, It has begun to decline. You can name anything that the USA was known to be a leader in and already we see other countries are doing the same, or even better. Slowly but surely we are losing ground, and if things continue to go as they are it wont be to long before the USA is subdued 1) in an economic sense 2) much later ina political aspect. by other nations of the world.

the number one contributing factor in all of this is GREED, The people at the economic and political pinnacle of society are more than willing to sell out to the highest , or lowest bidder. Jobs are being lost due to outsourcing, cause its cheaper in other countries.

Second ....Deficient EDUCATION.....our countries leaders have decided it is more profitable to rule over an uneducated mass, or so it seems. "Who would belive we'd spend more shipping guns and drugs than to educate our sons" Dave Mustaine. this is sad but its true More money goes to our military than to our schools, in wartime it might be justified , but at the very least they could spend more money on education....This nation is increasingly known for the ignorance of its people. And its true americans today are DUMBER than ever. All we seem to care about are cheap thrills and a quick buck. (THIS applies to the majority of the population...) Some do care about other things but their cries of desperation are drowned out by a loud and obnoxious media....

I could go on and on but whats the point......to answer your question...THATS NOT GONNA HAPPEN....we arent even UNOFICIAL anymore.

At the moment the USA is still a Leader and an economic power when it comes to the rest of the world. I fear however that like every other empire in the world, It has begun to decline. You can name anything that the USA was known to be a leader in and already we see other countries are doing the same, or even better. Slowly but surely we are losing ground, and if things continue to go as they are it wont be to long before the USA is subdued 1) in an economic sense 2) much later ina political aspect. by other nations of the world.

the number one contributing factor in all of this is GREED, The people at the economic and political pinnacle of society are more than willing to sell out to the highest , or lowest bidder. Jobs are being lost due to outsourcing, cause its cheaper in other countries.

Second ....Deficient EDUCATION.....our countries leaders have decided it is more profitable to rule over an uneducated mass, or so it seems. "Who would belive we'd spend more shipping guns and drugs than to educate our sons" Dave Mustaine. this is sad but its true More money goes to our military than to our schools, in wartime it might be justified , but at the very least they could spend more money on education....This nation is increasingly known for the ignorance of its people. And its true americans today are DUMBER than ever. All we seem to care about are cheap thrills and a quick buck. (THIS applies to the majority of the population...) Some do care about other things but their cries of desperation are drowned out by a loud and obnoxious media....

I could go on and on but whats the point......to answer your question...THATS NOT GONNA HAPPEN....we arent even UNOFICIAL anymore.

Pythos77

Are we even 'unofficial'? :?zakkro

[QUOTE="Pythos77"]

At the moment the USA is still a Leader and an economic power when it comes to the rest of the world. I fear however that like every other empire in the world, It has begun to decline. You can name anything that the USA was known to be a leader in and already we see other countries are doing the same, or even better. Slowly but surely we are losing ground, and if things continue to go as they are it wont be to long before the USA is subdued 1) in an economic sense 2) much later ina political aspect. by other nations of the world.

the number one contributing factor in all of this is GREED, The people at the economic and political pinnacle of society are more than willing to sell out to the highest , or lowest bidder. Jobs are being lost due to outsourcing, cause its cheaper in other countries.

Second ....Deficient EDUCATION.....our countries leaders have decided it is more profitable to rule over an uneducated mass, or so it seems. "Who would belive we'd spend more shipping guns and drugs than to educate our sons" Dave Mustaine. this is sad but its true More money goes to our military than to our schools, in wartime it might be justified , but at the very least they could spend more money on education....This nation is increasingly known for the ignorance of its people. And its true americans today are DUMBER than ever. All we seem to care about are cheap thrills and a quick buck. (THIS applies to the majority of the population...) Some do care about other things but their cries of desperation are drowned out by a loud and obnoxious media....

I could go on and on but whats the point......to answer your question...THATS NOT GONNA HAPPEN....we arent even UNOFICIAL anymore.

mig_killer2

Yes. If kids do well in school they will get grants, loans ect. It is easier to go to college now then ever before.