If women demand to be equal as men, why do they get special treatment?

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#1 DMRaMeX
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If we were in a sinking ship, women and children would be going first to the life boats (or as I've been told). If women demand to be equal as men, why should they get special treatment? Don't they make speeches saying we're strong enough mentally and physically as men? Please, I'm serious. I just want to know. It seems hypocrytical.
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#3 g-unit248
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short answer = just the way the world works
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#4 Cerussite
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chivalryinyourface_12
BS.

Chivalry doesn't pertain to the modern era.

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#5 SmashBrosLegend
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Equal, but not the same.
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#6 inyourface_12
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[QUOTE="inyourface_12"]chivalryCerussite

BS.

Chivalry doesn't pertain to the modern era.

it should. the world would be a better place

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#7 blooddemon666
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Double standards ftl
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#8 Cerussite
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[QUOTE="Cerussite"]

[QUOTE="inyourface_12"]chivalryinyourface_12

BS.

Chivalry doesn't pertain to the modern era.

it should. the world would be a better place

That only applies if it works for everyone.

If a boat's sinking, I'm sure as hell getting off first.

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#9 RiSkyBiZ-13
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I agree 100%. They want equal rights, but only in the areas that will gain benefit (i.e. wages, benefits, job positions) the other stuff (manual labor, physical training tests, work hours) they want special treatment. WtfZ0tz?!
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This is the greatest question of our age.
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#11 Conanfan1
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[QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="Cerussite"]

[QUOTE="inyourface_12"]chivalryCerussite

BS.

Chivalry doesn't pertain to the modern era.

it should. the world would be a better place

That only applies if it works for everyone.

If a boat's sinking, I'm sure as hell getting off first.

Yeah. Screw your wife and kids...
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I agree 100%. They want equal rights, but only in the areas that will gain benefit (i.e. wages, benefits, job positions) the other stuff (manual labor, physical training tests, work hours) they want special treatment. WtfZ0tz?!RiSkyBiZ-13

I'd have to agree with you. They've been demanding the right to be equal for a century or two, and only a few that work incredably hard actually deserve the right to be equal.

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#13 gameguy6700
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Because they want the best of both worlds. A lot of these women and girls don't realize that the societal rules of "don't hit a girl" and "always pay for a woman's meal when dating" are directly connected to abandoned ones such as "don't let women vote". It used to be that women were seen as too weak to fend for themselves and were so fragile that they had to be shielded from life's cruelties (if that sounds familiar, its also the way in which children are viewed in western society) which is why today we still have those archaic practices such as holding a door open for a woman. Its also why back in the day women weren't allowed to vote.

To be fair though, the hardcore feminists usually hate getting the special treatments such as having a door held open for them because they recognize the mentality behind those acts.

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That seriously still happens on ships?
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#15 RiSkyBiZ-13
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To be fair though, the hardcore feminists usually hate getting the special treatments such as having a door held open for them because they recognize the mentality behind those acts.

gameguy6700

Unfortunately, they comprise the VAST minority.

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Because you want sex, don't you?
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I agree 100%. They want equal rights, but only in the areas that will gain benefit (i.e. wages, benefits, job positions) the other stuff (manual labor, physical training tests, work hours) they want special treatment. WtfZ0tz?!RiSkyBiZ-13

I know eh, ftw.

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It because women are better than men and its taken almost the entirety of human social development to figure it out (although, there are many occasions where there exists or has existed a matriarchal society... although, nothing in the modern "civilized" world). Without women there would be nothing to hold men back from destroying everything in their path and no one to bear and raise children.foxhound_fox

Wow.. that was amazing. Without women there would be nothing to hold MEN back from destroying everything? Please, cite these moral female politicians that have kept us from nuking everything. Why did I even bother replying to such an assinine post?

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This is the greatest question of our age.Cube_of_MooN
QFT
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]It because women are better than men and its taken almost the entirety of human social development to figure it out (although, there are many occasions where there exists or has existed a matriarchal society... although, nothing in the modern "civilized" world). Without women there would be nothing to hold men back from destroying everything in their path and no one to bear and raise children.RiSkyBiZ-13

Wow.. that was amazing. Without women there would be nothing to hold MEN back from destroying everything? Please, cite these moral female politicians that have kept us from nuking everything. Why did I even bother replying to such an assinine post?

*smacks forehead*
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#22 Hoobinator
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They're users.

I've said it a thousand times and no one listens, they're users. End of.

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Because you want sex, don't you?megagene

i only want sex when i'm "in the mood". after that i lose all interest in women for about an hour or so.(for the most part)

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#24 RiSkyBiZ-13
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[QUOTE="megagene"]Because you want sex, don't you?irelevent

i only want sex when i'm "in the mood". after that i lose all interest in women for about an hour or so.(for the most part)

lmfao, tr00

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Wow.. that was amazing. Without women there would be nothing to hold MEN back from destroying everything? Please, cite these moral female politicians that have kept us from nuking everything. Why did I even bother replying to such an assinine post?RiSkyBiZ-13

You scoff at me now... but just you wait...
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It because women are better than men and its taken almost the entirety of human social development to figure it out (although, there are many occasions where there exists or has existed a matriarchal society... although, nothing in the modern "civilized" world). Without women there would be nothing to hold men back from destroying everything in their path and no one to bear and raise children.foxhound_fox

I'd agree that women are better than men in certain respects they have much beter dexterity, but are definatly weaker physically.

but women are definatly not better than men. And I agree that without women, we'd destroy the world, but without men, women would destroy the world. double sided blade my friend.

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It because women are better than men and its taken almost the entirety of human social development to figure it out (although, there are many occasions where there exists or has existed a matriarchal society... although, nothing in the modern "civilized" world). Without women there would be nothing to hold men back from destroying everything in their path and no one to bear and raise children.foxhound_fox

Oh Foxy. For shame.

Men better than women. Fact. Men aren't all war mongerers or destroyers. Fact. Women are too emotional. Fact. And test tube babies. Fact.

Oh and Ann Coulter. :lol:

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]It because women are better than men and its taken almost the entirety of human social development to figure it out (although, there are many occasions where there exists or has existed a matriarchal society... although, nothing in the modern "civilized" world). Without women there would be nothing to hold men back from destroying everything in their path and no one to bear and raise children.Hoobinator

Oh Foxy. For shame.

Men better than women. Fact. Men aren't all war mongerers or destroyers. Fact. Women are too emotional. Fact. And test tube babies. Fact.

Oh and Ann Coulter. :lol:

Men can get pregnant now aswell Ugh as sick as it is we atleast have a fall back plan.

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[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]Wow.. that was amazing. Without women there would be nothing to hold MEN back from destroying everything? Please, cite these moral female politicians that have kept us from nuking everything. Why did I even bother replying to such an assinine post?foxhound_fox

You scoff at me now... but just you wait...

sexists make me laugh. there will allways be men, and there will allways be women. get over it.

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[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]Wow.. that was amazing. Without women there would be nothing to hold MEN back from destroying everything? Please, cite these moral female politicians that have kept us from nuking everything. Why did I even bother replying to such an assinine post?foxhound_fox

You scoff at me now... but just you wait...

So what will you say if Hillary Clinton ends up nuking the world? :P

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Oh Foxy. For shame.

Men better than women. Fact. Men aren't all war mongerers or destroyers. Fact. Women are too emotional. Fact. And test tube babies. Fact.

Oh and Ann Coulter. :lol:

Hoobinator

I consider myself a moderate conservative (even though i don't even like to associate myself with such nebulous terms) and she's a bane to conservative... and female existance :lol:

shame on her for existing

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[QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]It because women are better than men and its taken almost the entirety of human social development to figure it out (although, there are many occasions where there exists or has existed a matriarchal society... although, nothing in the modern "civilized" world). Without women there would be nothing to hold men back from destroying everything in their path and no one to bear and raise children.-R3Volation

Oh Foxy. For shame.

Men better than women. Fact. Men aren't all war mongerers or destroyers. Fact. Women are too emotional. Fact. And test tube babies. Fact.

Oh and Ann Coulter. :lol:

Men can get pregnant now aswell Ugh as sick as it is we atleast have a fall back plan.

yes, we can, but women can make sperm from their bone marrow.

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[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]Wow.. that was amazing. Without women there would be nothing to hold MEN back from destroying everything? Please, cite these moral female politicians that have kept us from nuking everything. Why did I even bother replying to such an assinine post?foxhound_fox

You scoff at me now... but just you wait...

That doesn't even make sense. Wait for what? The only reason you claim men are responsible for war and destruction is because we've been the only gender in power with the capability of destruction. List the accomplishments over history of women, and the accomplishments of men. I won't post it, but I think we all know the answer...

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sexists make me laugh. there will allways be men, and there will allways be women. get over it.irelevent

Its funny you say that. Science has ways for both men and women to become pregnant without the other sex being involved... at least... they are only in development ATM.
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That doesn't even make sense. Wait for what? The only reason you claim men are responsible for war and destruction is because we've been the only gender in power with the capability of destruction. List the accomplishments over history of women, and the accomplishments of men. I won't post it, but I think we all know the answer...

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I'll save fox the response "wahh wahh repressed waah waah"
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[QUOTE="irelevent"]sexists make me laugh. there will allways be men, and there will allways be women. get over it.foxhound_fox

Its funny you say that. Science has ways for both men and women to become pregnant without the other sex being involved... at least... they are only in development ATM.

but what if your baby is some sort of monster!?!?!? a baby boy!?!?!?

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if a boat was sinking id get off asap. I dont care
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That doesn't even make sense. Wait for what? The only reason you claim men are responsible for war and destruction is because we've been the only gender in power with the capability of destruction. List the accomplishments over history of women, and the accomplishments of men. I won't post it, but I think we all know the answer...RiSkyBiZ-13

If women were not as suppressed throughout history to the menial labours of being a "good wife" I would definitely bet you that women would have made far more strides in the fields of discovery over men. If cave-woman were not their to push cave-man off the couch and go to work, cave-man would never have discovered wheel.
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If women were not as suppressed throughout history to the menial labours of being a "good wife" I would definitely bet you that women would have made far more strides in the fields of discovery over men. If cave-woman were not their to push cave-man off the couch and go to work, cave-man would never have discovered wheel.foxhound_fox

That's good, make hypothetical arguments based on nothing. I thought I had some wierd, politically incorrect views, but this takes the cake. I'm not even reporting you, because your mindless ranting is far too amusing.

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#41 makaveli2344
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because women are able to carry on life

and chivalry has alot to do with it, and they are as mentally and intelligently strong as men, its not like they all want this special treatment.

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I too have noticed that we as a society seem to be stuck in some awkward gap between chivalry and feminism. The heterosexual dating scene seems to be one of the areas in which we're lagging the most; women are still seen as prizes to be won; courtship is almost entirely the duty of the males, with women reduced to "sending signals" and "keeping him guessing", often leading said females to miss out on what might have been a fulfilling casual or serious relationship, if only they had had the audacity to take some simple initiative. Then of course, the men are expected to do all the driving and pay for everything.

Yes, I know I'm speaking in very general terms, and no, I'm not trying to use the persistent lack of gender equality as "is-ought" justification thereof, or cannon fodder for some post-feminist backlash; I support total equality at all times, on both sides, and it pains me to see us still trudging through this painful transition period some 60 years after the advent of feminism.

Will we ever make it to the other side, and how long will it take? Only time will tell, but at the moment things certainly are not what they could be.

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[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

To be fair though, the hardcore feminists usually hate getting the special treatments such as having a door held open for them because they recognize the mentality behind those acts.

RiSkyBiZ-13

Unfortunately, they comprise the VAST minority.

Yeah, but they're also the ones responsible for pushing most of the women's rights issues.

It because women are better than men and its taken almost the entirety of human social development to figure it out (although, there are many occasions where there exists or has existed a matriarchal society... although, nothing in the modern "civilized" world). Without women there would be nothing to hold men back from destroying everything in their path and no one to bear and raise children.foxhound_fox

Heh, like I already explained the real reason is the exact opposite of that. Women are seen as inferior to men and get treated as such (the mentality for holding a door open for a woman is that they're too weak to open it. The idea behind not punching a female is that they're essentially punching bags. The idea behind paying women lower salaries is that since they aren't feeding their family they don't need as much money as a man. A woman can't be president because she would make our nation look weak. Get the idea?).

Those aren't my personal views, but you should stop deluding yourself that society is polite to women out of kindness.

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[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]That doesn't even make sense. Wait for what? The only reason you claim men are responsible for war and destruction is because we've been the only gender in power with the capability of destruction. List the accomplishments over history of women, and the accomplishments of men. I won't post it, but I think we all know the answer...foxhound_fox

If women were not as suppressed throughout history to the menial labours of being a "good wife" I would definitely bet you that women would have made far more strides in the fields of discovery over men. If cave-woman were not their to push cave-man off the couch and go to work, cave-man would never have discovered wheel.

how are you to know that cavewomen were the ones to do that? were you there.

Mankind has always had the drive, the innate desire to create. its in all of us.

I think its safe to say that many scientists that created our greatest inventions were misogynistic.

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#45 Ilived
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This question gets asked a lot. There is no real answer to it. It is not written anywhere that women deserve special treatment. That 'rule' was built based upon society.
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[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]That doesn't even make sense. Wait for what? The only reason you claim men are responsible for war and destruction is because we've been the only gender in power with the capability of destruction. List the accomplishments over history of women, and the accomplishments of men. I won't post it, but I think we all know the answer...foxhound_fox

If women were not as suppressed throughout history to the menial labours of being a "good wife" I would definitely bet you that women would have made far more strides in the fields of discovery over men. If cave-woman were not their to push cave-man off the couch and go to work, cave-man would never have discovered wheel.

men are the reason women can do anything. was it a man or a women who created the tampon? birth control? who voted for womens suffrage before women could vote?woman were constrained to their cave, not because of man, but because of their own physical limits, now we have inventions that can change that.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]That doesn't even make sense. Wait for what? The only reason you claim men are responsible for war and destruction is because we've been the only gender in power with the capability of destruction. List the accomplishments over history of women, and the accomplishments of men. I won't post it, but I think we all know the answer...irelevent


If women were not as suppressed throughout history to the menial labours of being a "good wife" I would definitely bet you that women would have made far more strides in the fields of discovery over men. If cave-woman were not their to push cave-man off the couch and go to work, cave-man would never have discovered wheel.

men are the reason women can do anything. was it a man or a women ho created the tampon, birth control, who voted for womens suffrage before women could vote?

Oooooo!!! KO!!!!!

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#48 fidosim
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Because they are abused and oppressed even though they do better in school than men, and now make up most of college students. Despite their weaker physiques, female action stars have no problem beating up the mean, dirty men who oppose them. Everyone knows that American men are fat, lazy and stupid, and have nothing better to do than watch the game, eat some chips, and sit on the couchwith their hand down their pants. Teenage boys are even worse. They're stupid (that's why many of them are flunking out of school), they're lazy, they have no ambitions, and their video games and rap music make them homicidal maniacs. We need to do everything in our power to protect our innocent girls from these monsters who think with their penises. Don't question it. Don't try to change it. Popular culture has spoken.
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#49 Foolz3h
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]Wow.. that was amazing. Without women there would be nothing to hold MEN back from destroying everything? Please, cite these moral female politicians that have kept us from nuking everything. Why did I even bother replying to such an assinine post?irelevent


You scoff at me now... but just you wait...

sexists make me laugh. there will allways be men, and there will allways be women. get over it.

Not when the human race is extinct there won't.

Isn't Foxhound being sarcastic?

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#50 blooddemon666
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Because they are abused and oppressed even though they do better in school than men, and now make up most of college students. Despite their weaker physiques, female action stars have no problem beating up the mean, dirty men who oppose them. Everyone knows that American men are fat, lazy and stupid, and have nothing better to do than watch the game, eat some chips, and sit on the couchwith their hand down their pants. Teenage boys are even worse. They're stupid (that's why many of them are flunking out of school), they're lazy, they have no ambitions, and their video games and rap music make them homicidal maniacs. We need to do everything in our power to protect our innocent girls from these monsters who think with their penises. Don't question it. Don't try to change it. Popular culture has spoken.fidosim

and who pays for it?

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