If women demand to be equal as men, why do they get special treatment?

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#101 PherdnutChiken
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So... remind me again. What are all these special rights women are demanding?
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#102 DJ-Lafleur
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Honestly, I find this thread to be a little...silly. I'm a guy that's willing to be polite to anybody, or do a litle errand for anybody. each sex needs the other in order to keep the species living, and of course there have been ways to make guys pregnant recently, but seriously, which method would you guysprefer to get a child?You can't say that any sex is better, either, since there are many physicaland mental differences btween the two, and then of course many guysact differently than other guys and the same can be said for females. While some women have been approaching the issue of woman's equality in the wrong way, they should still be able to be equal. Well, I'm tired so I'm going to bed now...:(
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#103 kdt55
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Because they want the best of both worlds. A lot of these women and girls don't realize that the societal rules of "don't hit a girl" and "always pay for a woman's meal when dating" are directly connected to abandoned ones such as "don't let women vote". It used to be that women were seen as too weak to fend for themselves and were so fragile that they had to be shielded from life's cruelties (if that sounds familiar, its also the way in which children are viewed in western society) which is why today we still have those archaic practices such as holding a door open for a woman. Its also why back in the day women weren't allowed to vote.

To be fair though, the hardcore feminists usually hate getting the special treatments such as having a door held open for them because they recognize the mentality behind those acts.

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Right, and now women don't realize what they're throwing away when the demand these equal rights. The next time a woman expects me to pay for her movie ticket, I'm going to look at her with disgust and say "and after all 'whats her face' did, you have the odacity to expect me to pay. YOU SUCK! This is awesome.

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#104 PherdnutChiken
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Ahhhh... So this is about movie tickets.

Are we talking about dating or equal rights in the eyes of the law here?

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#105 esb1118
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Because giving brith sucks
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#106 GettingTired
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[QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

The anger in this threadis hilarious. :lol: Calm down they're women people.

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women who want the same rights... but only when it benefits themselves :|


Welcome to 21st century Western society. Where materialism, vanity, and selfishness prevail. That's why now every single woman has slept with 3+ plus men. Call me old fashion, but I think it was better back in the day when people stayed married to one person their whole life. I mean, my grandparents are still happily married after some 40 years.
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#107 Foolz3h
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[QUOTE="blooddemon666"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

The anger in this threadis hilarious. :lol: Calm down they're women people.

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women who want the same rights... but only when it benefits themselves :|


Welcome to 21st century Western society. Where materialism, vanity, and selfishness prevail. That's why now every single woman has slept with 3+ plus men. Call me old fashion, but I think it was better back in the day when people stayed married to one person their whole life. I mean, my grandparents are still happily married after some 40 years.

Not everoyne was happily married and it's not as if adultery is some new invention of the 21st centuary. ;)

Let's see, the wonderful 50s the time of the atomic family. (going only on steorotypes here.)

Every man in a position of power would have a secretary who was more often than not his mistress.

If a model (or a woman in most professions) wanted to make it far she would have to sleep her way to the top.

So basically everyone was promiscous.

(the above are not facts, and I'm so lazy that I could only think of two stereotypes!)

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#108 pianist
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Because some men still believe in chivalry. Women do deserve equality in society, but that does not preclude us men from treating them well out of respect and kindness. Why can't both occur? It's not a friggin' competition.
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#109 Bourbons3
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[QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="Cerussite"]

[QUOTE="inyourface_12"]chivalryCerussite

BS.

Chivalry doesn't pertain to the modern era.

it should. the world would be a better place

That only applies if it works for everyone.

If a boat's sinking, I'm sure as hell getting off first.

Women and children first FTW.
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#110 dooly420
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chivalryinyourface_12
to quote dave chappelle, "chivalry is dead. and women killed it."
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#111 Napster06
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I hate this issue. My friend held a door for a girl and she was mad at him! She said 'I don't need any help. I can open the door myself..'.

Its like WTF and some others, if you don't hold the door they say the opposite

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#112 daishi112
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Lol, what's the point of arguing on a video game website about it, nothing's going to change, women are too ignorant and men are too stubborn.
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Because they are abused and oppressed even though they do better in school than men, and now make up most of college students. Despite their weaker physiques, female action stars have no problem beating up the mean, dirty men who oppose them. Everyone knows that American men are fat, lazy and stupid, and have nothing better to do than watch the game, eat some chips, and sit on the couchwith their hand down their pants. Teenage boys are even worse. They're stupid (that's why many of them are flunking out of school), they're lazy, they have no ambitions, and their video games and rap music make them homicidal maniacs. We need to do everything in our power to protect our innocent girls from these monsters who think with their penises. Don't question it. Don't try to change it. Popular culture has spoken.fidosim

I laughed SO hard at this. Grow up. I hate feminists.

You never hear men complaining about women the way women complain about men. Its just stupid. Go with the flow. You have equal rights now so stop complaining.

And fox, think of what the world would be like with only women. Just think for a moment. We need both genders for the world to work. And besides, women basically already rule the world. Everything a man does is usually in reaction to a women.

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[QUOTE="fidosim"]Because they are abused and oppressed even though they do better in school than men, and now make up most of college students. Despite their weaker physiques, female action stars have no problem beating up the mean, dirty men who oppose them. Everyone knows that American men are fat, lazy and stupid, and have nothing better to do than watch the game, eat some chips, and sit on the couchwith their hand down their pants. Teenage boys are even worse. They're stupid (that's why many of them are flunking out of school), they're lazy, they have no ambitions, and their video games and rap music make them homicidal maniacs. We need to do everything in our power to protect our innocent girls from these monsters who think with their penises. Don't question it. Don't try to change it. Popular culture has spoken.Myrkan

I laughed SO hard at this. Grow up. I hate feminists.

You never hear men complaining about women the way women complain about men. Its just stupid. Go with the flow. You have equal rights now so stop complaining.

And fox, think of what the world would be like with only women. Just think for a moment. We need both genders for the world to work. And besides, women basically already rule the world. Everything a man does is usually in reaction to a women.

I think a joke just went over your head.
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#115 PherdnutChiken
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I hate this issue. My friend held a door for a girl and she was mad at him! She said 'I don't need any help. I can open the door myself..'.

Its like WTF and some others, if you don't hold the door they say the opposite

Napster06

Well, your friend encountered a stupid person. Like men, women are also frequently stupid people. That's never happened to me but if it ever does I will point out to the lady that I hold the door for anybody that's behind me but the next time I see her, I'll gladly let it hit her in the face.

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#116 UssjTrunks
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I hate feminists so much I would actually hit them.
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#117 maheo30
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Women aren't equal to men. Men are stronger. You will never see a woman playing HB in the NFL. Why? Not physically strong enough. I know that's not popular but it's a fact.
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#118 Cerussite
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[QUOTE="Cerussite"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="Cerussite"]

[QUOTE="inyourface_12"]chivalryConanfan1

BS.

Chivalry doesn't pertain to the modern era.

it should. the world would be a better place

That only applies if it works for everyone.

If a boat's sinking, I'm sure as hell getting off first.

Yeah. Screw your wife and kids...

I don't have a wife or kids, so yeah, screw them.
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#119 Cerussite
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Women aren't equal to men. Men are stronger. You will never see a woman playing HB in the NFL. Why? Not physically strong enough. I know that's not popular but it's a fact.
maheo30
Just like the guys in the NFL train to stay fit and muscular, women can do so to, and play just as well as the guys.

It's just that not many do so.

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#120 UssjTrunks
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[QUOTE="maheo30"]Women aren't equal to men. Men are stronger. You will never see a woman playing HB in the NFL. Why? Not physically strong enough. I know that's not popular but it's a fact.
Cerussite

Just like the guys in the NFL train to stay fit and muscular, women can do so to, and play just as well as the guys.

It's just that not many do so.



LOL. :lol:
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#121 Quadrifoglio
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Best thread on Gamespot? I think so. The ownage of fox is almost unbearable. :lol:
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#122 Omni-Slash
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because while women are equal in regards to mental compacity and most things in the modern world....they still are physically weaker...(minus all you 110 lbs girlymen in here).....that being said it's a moral responsiblity of those with stregth to help those without.......including women and children.....
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#123 sandlot76
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because some women want their cake and eat it too. And equal means pay, how they are treated and things like that. But...sadly, we are not all created equal. I think most of us know that.
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#124 FFinfinite
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[QUOTE="Cerussite"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="Cerussite"]

[QUOTE="inyourface_12"]chivalryConanfan1

BS.

Chivalry doesn't pertain to the modern era.

it should. the world would be a better place

That only applies if it works for everyone.

If a boat's sinking, I'm sure as hell getting off first.

Yeah. Screw your wife and kids...

Children should get treatment-they're too young to die. but you can still screw your wife.
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#125 trix5817
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This is what I've been wondering too.
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#126 soldier-dark
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Because equal rights means unfair advantages. ;) But it doesn't really affect me.
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Women have the babies so thus they are important. Children are the future so thus they are important.....propagation of the species is why they were always saved first.
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#128 OneWingedAngeI
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i have no problems with calling women equals... except physically. i find it absurd that when working at any job, if there is a heavy box to lift, a man is asked to do it, but then a woman will be given the same pay. if I am asked to do things a woman physically cannot do, I should make more money. women are not completely equal when you factor in anything to do with physical strength, and anyone who claims so is just plain wrong
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#129 FFinfinite
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Women have the babies so thus they are important. Children are the future so thus they are important.....propagation of the species is why they were always saved first.LJS9502_basic
Yeah, but menhave the sperm thus, making a baby. So, then men are just as important as men.
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i have no problems with calling women equals... except physically. i find it absurd that when working at any job, if there is a heavy box to lift, a man is asked to do it, but then a woman will be given the same pay. if I am asked to do things a woman physically cannot do, I should make more money. women are not completely equal when you factor in anything to do with physical strength, and anyone who claims so is just plain wrongOneWingedAngeI

Where I work...everyone is expected to lift the boxes of liquor.

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[QUOTE="fidosim"]Because they are abused and oppressed even though they do better in school than men, and now make up most of college students. Despite their weaker physiques, female action stars have no problem beating up the mean, dirty men who oppose them. Everyone knows that American men are fat, lazy and stupid, and have nothing better to do than watch the game, eat some chips, and sit on the couchwith their hand down their pants. Teenage boys are even worse. They're stupid (that's why many of them are flunking out of school), they're lazy, they have no ambitions, and their video games and rap music make them homicidal maniacs. We need to do everything in our power to protect our innocent girls from these monsters who think with their penises. Don't question it. Don't try to change it. Popular culture has spoken.RiSkyBiZ-13

Where did you get the grade/college statistics? Please cite. Action stars beating up mean, dirty men? You're talking about movies, acting- that's choreography. You'd be more accurate to say they're better dancers. As for the rest of your assinine bias post, I won't even dignify it with a reply. My best guess is that you're an overweight female, probably not pleasing on the eyes, that has been rejected many times by men. Well, guess what honey? We've all dealt with rejection, you need to get over it.

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic......

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Women have the babies so thus they are important. Children are the future so thus they are important.....propagation of the species is why they were always saved first.FFinfinite
Yeah, but menhave the sperm thus, making a baby. So, then men are just as important as men.

Not really.....one man can impregnate several women...whereas a woman only gets pregnant at one time and then the incubation period is roughly 10 months from start to finish.

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[QUOTE="OneWingedAngeI"]i have no problems with calling women equals... except physically. i find it absurd that when working at any job, if there is a heavy box to lift, a man is asked to do it, but then a woman will be given the same pay. if I am asked to do things a woman physically cannot do, I should make more money. women are not completely equal when you factor in anything to do with physical strength, and anyone who claims so is just plain wrongLJS9502_basic

Where I work...everyone is expected to lift the boxes of liquor.

[QUOTE="OneWingedAngeI"]i have no problems with calling women equals... except physically. i find it absurd that when working at any job, if there is a heavy box to lift, a man is asked to do it, but then a woman will be given the same pay. if I am asked to do things a woman physically cannot do, I should make more money. women are not completely equal when you factor in anything to do with physical strength, and anyone who claims so is just plain wrongLJS9502_basic

Where I work...everyone is expected to lift the boxes of liquor.


thats good. but i've had jobs where i was expected to lift things, and the women there were not. i have no problem doing the lifting, but as it is something above and beyond what the women working there can do, i should receive extra compensation.
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#134 PherdnutChiken
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Women aren't equal to men. Men are stronger. You will never see a woman playing HB in the NFL. Why? Not physically strong enough. I know that's not popular but it's a fact.
maheo30

Not popular? Who has ever argued against that? The standard is equal professional treatment for equal ability not whether one gender is more worthy for being able to bench press more.

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Its not so much the sinking ship part that bugs me i can except that, its the man scoreing a 98% at the police academy and a women scoreing a 79% but they hire the women just because they a more "diverse" work enviroment, thats whats wrong with society, people should be judged on there adilities not there sex,race,religion,etc.
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#136 OneWingedAngeI
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Its not so much the sinking ship part that bugs me i can except that, its the man scoreing a 98% at the police academy and a women scoreing a 79% but they hire the women just because they a more "diverse" work enviroment, thats whats wrong with society, people should be judged on there adilities not there sex,race,religion,etc.markebici

agreed 100%. diversity programs are flat out unjust, and should be illegal.

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[QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]

[QUOTE="fidosim"]Guys, my post was sarcastic. I'm just referencing the message popular culture is sending. It's not that they want women to have equal rights, they want women to be SUPERIOR. Little white boys are growing up being told that they're responsible for any oppression that takes place anywhere in the world. OF course males are starting to struggle in society, if someone is telling you that you're evil and inferior your whole life, you start to subconsciously believe it.fidosim

...oops. sorry?

No problem. You're right about me not being much to look at though.

And it is true that women are starting to dominate college campuses, but it's because of this culture of Masochism that is being preached to our kids. THey don't want people to think that men and women are even different, even though they clearly are. What needs to be taught is that men and women are different. They're not better or worse than eachother, but they ARE different. Instead young boys are being stereotyped and ridiculed, while simultaneously being accused of being the villains of human history.

Since when were young white guys being accused of being villains? If anything their failures are mostly their own fault. Kids these days with drugs and the music, and the not thinking about anyone else.

I don't know what history they're teaching you at your school.

Since the overpaid loudmouths on "The View" declared how good it is to be a white man in America.

Regardless of the facts, the message of self-hate is still getting across. Of course it's a guy's own fault if he flunks out of school because he never showed up, but the reason this is becoming so common is because nobody has any faith in them, and they have no reason to believe that they can change the world. The traces of this attitude are everywhere. Look at television. The woman is smarter than the man, look at shows like the simpsons and family guy, and heck even the Cosby show, here young Theo is always coming up with hopeless schemes that he never thinks through. It seems innocent enough, but it is all contributing to this culture. It's like affirmative action. Because women and minorities have suffered in the past, the majority NOW, who never perpetrated these things, have to pay them back tenfold to get them back on track.

During slavery and before the civil rights era, there were often instances where a black person would be accused to commiting a crime against a white person. If the suspect was on the run and not in police custory, white mobs would go out and lynch a black person. It didn't matter which black person. The way they saw it, a black person committed a crime, so a black person was killed. Justice had been done. This same mentality is being used in our culture today, even if it isn't about physical violence.

Agreed. Just watch any modern sit-com. The males almost always get portrayed as stupid and inferior to the female counterpart. Men are always portrayed as the "bad guy" in today's society. Try getting custody of you're kids if you want to divorce. Not going to happen. The woman always gets them. It's ridiculous.

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thats good. but i've had jobs where i was expected to lift things, and the women there were not. i have no problem doing the lifting, but as it is something above and beyond what the women working there can do, i should receive extra compensation.OneWingedAngeI

So the women stood around and did nothing while you lifted things? I might agree with your assessment but you're being a bit vague about it.

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#139 FFinfinite
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[QUOTE="FFinfinite"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Women have the babies so thus they are important. Children are the future so thus they are important.....propagation of the species is why they were always saved first.LJS9502_basic

Yeah, but menhave the sperm thus, making a baby. So, then men are just as important as men.

Not really.....one man can impregnate several women...whereas a woman only gets pregnant at one time and then the incubation period is roughly 10 months from start to finish.

I don't know what you just said.
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It because women are better than men and its taken almost the entirety of human social development to figure it out (although, there are many occasions where there exists or has existed a matriarchal society... although, nothing in the modern "civilized" world). Without women there would be nothing to hold men back from destroying everything in their path and no one to bear and raise children.foxhound_fox

I call that BS, and I agree with the TC.

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[QUOTE="FFinfinite"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Women have the babies so thus they are important. Children are the future so thus they are important.....propagation of the species is why they were always saved first.FFinfinite

Yeah, but menhave the sperm thus, making a baby. So, then men are just as important as men.

Not really.....one man can impregnate several women...whereas a woman only gets pregnant at one time and then the incubation period is roughly 10 months from start to finish.

I don't know what you just said.

Biology...:|

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#142 OneWingedAngeI
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thats good. but i've had jobs where i was expected to lift things, and the women there were not. i have no problem doing the lifting, but as it is something above and beyond what the women working there can do, i should receive extra compensation.PherdnutChiken

So the women stood around and did nothing while you lifted things? I might agree with your assessment but you're being a bit vague about it.


absolutely
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#143 trix5817
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[QUOTE="maheo30"]Women aren't equal to men. Men are stronger. You will never see a woman playing HB in the NFL. Why? Not physically strong enough. I know that's not popular but it's a fact.
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Just like the guys in the NFL train to stay fit and muscular, women can do so to, and play just as well as the guys.

It's just that not many do so.

I'm sorry, but...No. This is a fact.

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#144 sthadji
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I know. Last night I went to this party at a local club and entrance for women was free. Men had to pay a $12 entrance fee.

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I know. Last night I went to this party at a local club and entrance for women was free. Men had to pay a $12 entrance fee.

sthadji

They do that to get the women there...and they know the men will follow. Marketing strategy....

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#146 Whight_Knight
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[QUOTE="sthadji"]

I know. Last night I went to this party at a local club and entrance for women was free. Men had to pay a $12 entrance fee.

LJS9502_basic

They do that to get the women there...and they know the men will follow. Marketing strategy....

Its a good strategy ...

>_>

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#147 PherdnutChiken
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[QUOTE="OneWingedAngeI"]
thats good. but i've had jobs where i was expected to lift things, and the women there were not. i have no problem doing the lifting, but as it is something above and beyond what the women working there can do, i should receive extra compensation.OneWingedAngeI

So the women stood around and did nothing while you lifted things? I might agree with your assessment but you're being a bit vague about it.


absolutely

Then the issue isn't one of compensation, but of being able to actually meet the job description. They should be fired and replaced with people who can lift the loads required.

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#148 blooddemon666
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[QUOTE="sthadji"]

I know. Last night I went to this party at a local club and entrance for women was free. Men had to pay a $12 entrance fee.

LJS9502_basic

They do that to get the women there...and they know the men will follow. Marketing strategy....

if they did it the other way around, it would be a sausage fest :lol:
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#149 PherdnutChiken
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="sthadji"]

I know. Last night I went to this party at a local club and entrance for women was free. Men had to pay a $12 entrance fee.

Whight_Knight

They do that to get the women there...and they know the men will follow. Marketing strategy....

Its a good strategy ...

>_>

More importantly, it wouldn't work if men didn't pay.

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#150 OneWingedAngeI
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[QUOTE="OneWingedAngeI"][QUOTE="PherdnutChiken"]

[QUOTE="OneWingedAngeI"]
thats good. but i've had jobs where i was expected to lift things, and the women there were not. i have no problem doing the lifting, but as it is something above and beyond what the women working there can do, i should receive extra compensation.PherdnutChiken

So the women stood around and did nothing while you lifted things? I might agree with your assessment but you're being a bit vague about it.


absolutely

Then the issue isn't one of compensation, but of being able to actually meet the job description. They should be fired and replaced with people who can lift the loads required.


no, because lifting boxes wasn't part of the job description. it was above and beyond.