If women demand to be equal as men, why do they get special treatment?

Because they are abused and oppressed even though they do better in school than men, and now make up most of college students. Despite their weaker physiques, female action stars have no problem beating up the mean, dirty men who oppose them. Everyone knows that American men are fat, lazy and stupid, and have nothing better to do than watch the game, eat some chips, and sit on the couchwith their hand down their pants. Teenage boys are even worse. They're stupid (that's why many of them are flunking out of school), they're lazy, they have no ambitions, and their video games and rap music make them homicidal maniacs. We need to do everything in our power to protect our innocent girls from these monsters who think with their penises. Don't question it. Don't try to change it. Popular culture has spoken.fidosim

Because they are abused and oppressed even though they do better in school than men, and now make up most of college students. Despite their weaker physiques, female action stars have no problem beating up the mean, dirty men who oppose them. Everyone knows that American men are fat, lazy and stupid, and have nothing better to do than watch the game, eat some chips, and sit on the couchwith their hand down their pants. Teenage boys are even worse. They're stupid (that's why many of them are flunking out of school), they're lazy, they have no ambitions, and their video games and rap music make them homicidal maniacs. We need to do everything in our power to protect our innocent girls from these monsters who think with their penises. Don't question it. Don't try to change it. Popular culture has spoken.fidosim

Where did you get the grade/college statistics? Please cite. Action stars beating up mean, dirty men? You're talking about movies, acting- that's choreography. You'd be more accurate to say they're better dancers. As for the rest of your assinine bias post, I won't even dignify it with a reply. My best guess is that you're an overweight female, probably not pleasing on the eyes, that has been rejected many times by men. Well, guess what honey? We've all dealt with rejection, you need to get over it.

Because they are abused and oppressed even though they do better in school than men, and now make up most of college students. Despite their weaker physiques, female action stars have no problem beating up the mean, dirty men who oppose them. Everyone knows that American men are fat, lazy and stupid, and have nothing better to do than watch the game, eat some chips, and sit on the couchwith their hand down their pants. Teenage boys are even worse. They're stupid (that's why many of them are flunking out of school), they're lazy, they have no ambitions, and their video games and rap music make them homicidal maniacs. We need to do everything in our power to protect our innocent girls from these monsters who think with their penises. Don't question it. Don't try to change it. Popular culture has spoken.fidosim

Your Answer is Illogical.

[QUOTE="irelevent"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]Wow.. that was amazing. Without women there would be nothing to hold MEN back from destroying everything? Please, cite these moral female politicians that have kept us from nuking everything. Why did I even bother replying to such an assinine post?Foolz3h

sexists make me laugh. there will allways be men, and there will allways be women. get over it.

Not when the human race is extinct there won't.

Isn't Foxhound being sarcastic?

What i meant to say is one cannot exist without the other.

[QUOTE="fidosim"]Because they are abused and oppressed even though they do better in school than men, and now make up most of college students. Despite their weaker physiques, female action stars have no problem beating up the mean, dirty men who oppose them. Everyone knows that American men are fat, lazy and stupid, and have nothing better to do than watch the game, eat some chips, and sit on the couchwith their hand down their pants. Teenage boys are even worse. They're stupid (that's why many of them are flunking out of school), they're lazy, they have no ambitions, and their video games and rap music make them homicidal maniacs. We need to do everything in our power to protect our innocent girls from these monsters who think with their penises. Don't question it. Don't try to change it. Popular culture has spoken.irelevent

Your Answer is Illogical.

one would hope... :|

It's the same reason blacks get special treatment, guit for years of opression. equality? think of the men who get raped in divorce court. women want equality but when the divorce comes along, all of a sudden they can't fend for themselves, the are accustomed to certain living conditions. Well the man in the divorce is used to certain things like eating and having a roof over their heads.

men are the reason women can do anything. was it a man or a women ho created the tampon, birth control, who voted for womens suffrage before women could vote?

irelevent

Umm, wow.

1. Before women were allowed to vote they....weren't allowed to vote, so who else could have possible voted for their suffrage? Surely you see the circular logic in that.

2. It also would have been men who voted against women's suffrage, I'm afraid.

3. How do you know that tampons and birth control were invented by men, and why is that even relevant?

4. Like foxhound said, women haven't had very much socio-politcal power at all up until less than a hundred years ago, and this is because, like it or not, they were oppressed by men. And now you're holding women responsible for their own hinderance and maltreatment at the hands of men and for not having thousands of years of progress under their collective belts? Whatever.

It's the same reason blacks get special treatment, guit for years of opression. equality? think of the men who get raped in divorce court. women want equality but when the divorce comes along, all of a sudden they can't fend for themselves, the are accustomed to certain living conditions. Well the man in the divorce is used to certain things like eating and having a roof over their heads.

Poedon

yeah. I do title searches for houses. one that was extremely long winded and illogical was this:

- dude buys a house

- dude marries girl and puts house in his and her name

- they divorce, she ends up getting his house!

- she marries another guy and puts it in her's and the new guy's house

- They divorce and she gets the property again.

HOW THE HELL IS THAT FAIR!?

yeah. I do title searches for houses. one that was extremely long winded and illogical was this:

- dude buys a house

- dude marries girl and puts house in his and her name

- they divorce, she ends up getting his house!

- she marries another guy and puts it in her's and the new guy's house

- They divorce and she gets the property again.

HOW THE HELL IS THAT FAIR!?

blooddemon666

[QUOTE="irelevent"]

men are the reason women can do anything. was it a man or a women ho created the tampon, birth control, who voted for womens suffrage before women could vote?

creepy_mike

Umm, wow.

1. Before women were allowed to vote they....weren't allowed to vote, so who else could have possible voted for their suffrage? Surely you see the circular logic in that.

2. It also would have been men who voted against women's suffrage, I'm afraid.

3. How do you know that tampons and birth control were invented by men, and why is that even relevant?

4. Like foxhound said, women haven't had very much socio-politcal power at all up until less than a hundred years ago, and this is because, like it or not, they were oppressed by men. And now you're holding women responsible for their own hinderance and maltreatment at the hands of men and for not having thousands of years of progress under their collective belts? Whatever.

1. exactly, men did.

2. Yet the law was passed.

3. you can Wiki it, created by men. do you realise that at one time Womens periods was basically 2 weeks of having to sit on your $#@ in pain. and that girls wanted to get pregnant, to not have periods.

4.Please enlighten me on how they were "opressed"

Guys, my post was sarcastic. I'm just referencing the message popular culture is sending. It's not that they want women to have equal rights, they want women to be SUPERIOR. Little white boys are growing up being told that they're responsible for any oppression that takes place anywhere in the world. OF course males are starting to struggle in society, if someone is telling you that you're evil and inferior your whole life, you start to subconsciously believe it.fidosim

...oops. sorry?

One, hypenated word: pre-nupfoxhound_fox

apperently she had a better lawer, and the laws were in her favor >___>

personally, I wouldn't marry a girl who wanted a pre-nup. that's pretty much "I'm going to put up with you for a while and leave you"

Way to be a succubus... whore.... (which, in my opinion, all women are :|)

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
One, hypenated word: pre-nupblooddemon666

apperently she had a better lawer, and the laws were in her favor >___>

personally, I wouldn't marry a girl who wanted a pre-nup. that's pretty much "I'm going to put up with you for a while and leave you"

Way to be a succubus... whore.... (which, in my opinion, all women are :|)

The anger in this threadis hilarious. :lol: Calm down they're women people.

[QUOTE="blooddemon666"]yeah. I do title searches for houses. one that was extremely long winded and illogical was this:

- dude buys a house

- dude marries girl and puts house in his and her name

- they divorce, she ends up getting his house!

- she marries another guy and puts it in her's and the new guy's house

- They divorce and she gets the property again.

HOW THE HELL IS THAT FAIR!?

foxhound_fox

if you ever have a kid i think you will understand that woman are not superior, but thats ok, because men arent either, and by making fun of man you are making fun of humanity. Therefore you are making fun of yourself.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"]yeah. I do title searches for houses. one that was extremely long winded and illogical was this:

- dude buys a house

- dude marries girl and puts house in his and her name

- they divorce, she ends up getting his house!

- she marries another guy and puts it in her's and the new guy's house

- They divorce and she gets the property again.

HOW THE HELL IS THAT FAIR!?

irelevent

But getting a pre-nuptual means that you lack trust, and then the girl wont marry you. your logic is flawed.

A pre-nup is the logical thing to do before any marriage these days with the rate of failed marriages. People need to drop the romantic bull**** and think logically. It makes sense the woman isn't going to be thrilled about a pre-nup, women always benefit from divorce laws. If anything, a woman who refuses to make a pre-nup is a woman you should refuse to marry.

The anger in this threadis hilarious. :lol: Calm down they're women people.

Hoobinator

[QUOTE="fidosim"]Guys, my post was sarcastic. I'm just referencing the message popular culture is sending. It's not that they want women to have equal rights, they want women to be SUPERIOR. Little white boys are growing up being told that they're responsible for any oppression that takes place anywhere in the world. OF course males are starting to struggle in society, if someone is telling you that you're evil and inferior your whole life, you start to subconsciously believe it.RiSkyBiZ-13

...oops. sorry?

No problem. You're right about me not being much to look at though.

And it is true that women are starting to dominate college campuses, but it's because of this culture of Masochism that is being preached to our kids. THey don't want people to think that men and women are even different, even though they clearly are. What needs to be taught is that men and women are different. They're not better or worse than eachother, but they ARE different. Instead young boys are being stereotyped and ridiculed, while simultaneously being accused of being the villains of human history.

the logical thing to do before any marriage these days with the rate of failed marriages. People need to drop the romantic bull**** and think logically. It makes sense the woman isn't going to be thrilled about a pre-nup, women always benefit from divorce laws. If anything, a woman who refuses to make a pre-nup is a woman you should refuse to marry.

gameguy6700

Well put. I'm getting married in 2 months, a pre-nup's been signed.

A pre-nup is the logical thing to do before any marriage these days with the rate of failed marriages. People need to drop the romantic bull**** and think logically. It makes sense the woman isn't going to be thrilled about a pre-nup, women always benefit from divorce laws. If anything, a woman who refuses to make a pre-nup is a woman you should refuse to marry.

gameguy6700

That's arguing a completely different point. failed marrages are the result of people being pretty much shocked by another person and giving up. That's all divorces are in most cases, just giving up.

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]

[QUOTE="fidosim"]Guys, my post was sarcastic. I'm just referencing the message popular culture is sending. It's not that they want women to have equal rights, they want women to be SUPERIOR. Little white boys are growing up being told that they're responsible for any oppression that takes place anywhere in the world. OF course males are starting to struggle in society, if someone is telling you that you're evil and inferior your whole life, you start to subconsciously believe it.fidosim

...oops. sorry?

No problem. You're right about me not being much to look at though.

And it is true that women are starting to dominate college campuses, but it's because of this culture of Masochism that is being preached to our kids. THey don't want people to think that men and women are even different, even though they clearly are. What needs to be taught is that men and women are different. They're not better or worse than eachother, but they ARE different. Instead young boys are being stereotyped and ridiculed, while simultaneously being accused of being the villains of human history.

Since when were young white guys being accused of being villains? If anything their failures are mostly their own fault. Kids these days with drugs and the music, and the not thinking about anyone else.

I don't know what history they're teaching you at your school.

[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

the logical thing to do before any marriage these days with the rate of failed marriages. People need to drop the romantic bull**** and think logically. It makes sense the woman isn't going to be thrilled about a pre-nup, women always benefit from divorce laws. If anything, a woman who refuses to make a pre-nup is a woman you should refuse to marry.

RiSkyBiZ-13

Well put. I'm getting married in 2 months, a pre-nup's been signed.

beyond that, they're pointless. its only a religious ceremony perepetuated through humanity. Why can't people just love on another unconditionally, why do they have to go through this extravogant ritual of marrage.

I thought we were kinda beyond these archaic arts by now. but w/e what ever way you can "profess your love to another" all the more power to you.

but don't cry to me when she leaves with half of your stuff

Since when were young white guys being accused of being villains? If anything their failures are mostly their own fault. Kids these days with drugs and the music, and the not thinking about anyone else.

I don't know what history they're teaching you at your school.

Hoobinator

[QUOTE="creepy_mike"][QUOTE="irelevent"]

men are the reason women can do anything. was it a man or a women ho created the tampon, birth control, who voted for womens suffrage before women could vote?

irelevent

Umm, wow.

1. Before women were allowed to vote they....weren't allowed to vote, so who else could have possible voted for their suffrage? Surely you see the circular logic in that.

2. It also would have been men who voted against women's suffrage, I'm afraid.

3. How do you know that tampons and birth control were invented by men, and why is that even relevant?

4. Like foxhound said, women haven't had very much socio-politcal power at all up until less than a hundred years ago, and this is because, like it or not, they were oppressed by men. And now you're holding women responsible for their own hinderance and maltreatment at the hands of men and for not having thousands of years of progress under their collective belts? Whatever.

1. exactly, men did.

So its women's fault that they were forbidden, by men, to vote to begin with? By your logic, white people are the reason minorities can do anything. I'm sorry, but you don't get points for oppressing someone and then eventually lifting the injustice that never should have existed in the first place.

2. Yet the law was passed.

*Sigh* Not the point.

3. you can Wiki it, created by men. do you realise that at one time Womens periods was basically 2 weeks of having to sit on your $#@ in pain. and that girls wanted to get pregnant, to not have periods.

So they were each invented by a few men. Does that mean that a woman couldn't have done it? No.

4.Please enlighten me on how they were "opressed"

You may not know this, but for hundreds of years they weren't allowed to vote.:roll: They've also been beaten, forced into prostitution, denied any sembleance of civil liberties, all with full official support from local governments and clerics. For you to look at the history of world religions, politics, and cultures and not notice any blemish on women's rights *anywhere* is a profound feat of willfull ignorance, and one to which I've already payed far too much undue attention.

I may or may not take this up again in the morning. Nighty night 'til then.

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"][QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

the logical thing to do before any marriage these days with the rate of failed marriages. People need to drop the romantic bull**** and think logically. It makes sense the woman isn't going to be thrilled about a pre-nup, women always benefit from divorce laws. If anything, a woman who refuses to make a pre-nup is a woman you should refuse to marry.

blooddemon666

Well put. I'm getting married in 2 months, a pre-nup's been signed.

beyond that, they're pointless. its only a religious ceremony perepetuated through humanity. Why can't people just love on another unconditionally, why do they have to go through this extravogant ritual of marrage.

I thought we were kinda beyond these archaic arts by now. but w/e what ever way you can "profess your love to another" all the more power to you.

but don't cry to me when she leaves with half of your stuff

You'll realize when you're in love, and when you're older (I used to have the same view as you, a few years back). If you don't get married, and you just "love eachother" and live together, you're essentially taking advantage of the woman. You're basically saying "Why buy the cow when you get the milk for free?" The woman has no reassurance that you plan on a life long commitment with her. You're free to bounce whenever you feel like it. That's not right.

You'll realize when you're in love, and when you're older (I used to have the same view as you, a few years back). If you don't get married, and you just "love eachother" and live together, you're essentially taking advantage of the woman. You're basically saying "Why buy the cow when you get the milk for free?" The woman has no reassurance that you plan on a life long commitment with her. You're free to bounce whenever you feel like it. That's not right.

RiSkyBiZ-13

It because women are better than men and its taken almost the entirety of human social development to figure it out (although, there are many occasions where there exists or has existed a matriarchal society... although, nothing in the modern "civilized" world). Without women there would be nothing to hold men back from destroying everything in their path and no one to bear and raise children.foxhound_fox

Congratulations, that's the worst post I've everread on these forums, and I've been lurking/posting on System Wars since 2003. You must be no older than 16. Halfway coherent but still completely clueless. A product of feminist North America in all its glory. God help us.

4. Like foxhound said, women haven't had very much socio-politcal power at all up until less than a hundred years ago, and this is because, like it or not, they were oppressed by men. And now you're holding women responsible for their own hinderance and maltreatment at the hands of men and for not having thousands of years of progress under their collective belts? Whatever.creepy_mike

Women (as well as clueless men, unfortunately) do their cause no good by first claiming thatwomen are in every way equal to men, and then presenting themselves as powerless victims of an oppressive male society, because only twoconclusions can be drawn from this assertion, and neither is very flattering to women. Either they really are powerless victims of male domination, in which case they are by definition inferior to men; or they are the equal of men but have allowed themselves to be subordinated, in which case their character can only be regarded as highly suspect. In other words, your argument is terrible, and you should probably stop posting about this issue because you aren't bright enough to understand what the hell you're talking about. Thanks for playing.

You'll realize when you're in love, and when you're older (I used to have the same view as you, a few years back). If you don't get married, and you just "love eachother" and live together, you're essentially taking advantage of the woman. You're basically saying "Why buy the cow when you get the milk for free?" The woman has no reassurance that you plan on a life long commitment with her. You're free to bounce whenever you feel like it. That's not right.

RiSkyBiZ-13

:lol: That sounded so wrong.

[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]

[QUOTE="fidosim"]Guys, my post was sarcastic. I'm just referencing the message popular culture is sending. It's not that they want women to have equal rights, they want women to be SUPERIOR. Little white boys are growing up being told that they're responsible for any oppression that takes place anywhere in the world. OF course males are starting to struggle in society, if someone is telling you that you're evil and inferior your whole life, you start to subconsciously believe it.Hoobinator

...oops. sorry?

No problem. You're right about me not being much to look at though.

And it is true that women are starting to dominate college campuses, but it's because of this culture of Masochism that is being preached to our kids. THey don't want people to think that men and women are even different, even though they clearly are. What needs to be taught is that men and women are different. They're not better or worse than eachother, but they ARE different. Instead young boys are being stereotyped and ridiculed, while simultaneously being accused of being the villains of human history.

Since when were young white guys being accused of being villains? If anything their failures are mostly their own fault. Kids these days with drugs and the music, and the not thinking about anyone else.

I don't know what history they're teaching you at your school.

Since the overpaid loudmouths on "The View" declared how good it is to be a white man in America.

Regardless of the facts, the message of self-hate is still getting across. Of course it's a guy's own fault if he flunks out of school because he never showed up, but the reason this is becoming so common is because nobody has any faith in them, and they have no reason to believe that they can change the world. The traces of this attitude are everywhere. Look at television. The woman is smarter than the man, look at shows like the simpsons and family guy, and heck even the Cosby show, here young Theo is always coming up with hopeless schemes that he never thinks through. It seems innocent enough, but it is all contributing to this culture. It's like affirmative action. Because women and minorities have suffered in the past, the majority NOW, who never perpetrated these things, have to pay them back tenfold to get them back on track.

During slavery and before the civil rights era, there were often instances where a black person would be accused to commiting a crime against a white person. If the suspect was on the run and not in police custory, white mobs would go out and lynch a black person. It didn't matter which black person. The way they saw it, a black person committed a crime, so a black person was killed. Justice had been done. This same mentality is being used in our culture today, even if it isn't about physical violence.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]It because women are better than men and its taken almost the entirety of human social development to figure it out (although, there are many occasions where there exists or has existed a matriarchal society... although, nothing in the modern "civilized" world). Without women there would be nothing to hold men back from destroying everything in their path and no one to bear and raise children.RiSkyBiZ-13

Wow.. that was amazing. Without women there would be nothing to hold MEN back from destroying everything? Please, cite these moral female politicians that have kept us from nuking everything. Why did I even bother replying to such an assinine post?

LOL if you want to know what happens when you give women way to much power watch The Wickerman.

Men force it upon themselves. It's just a long standing traditional "belief" in the world that women are "weak" and "fragile", and must have special attention and needs from men. That was a huge argument during the campaigning for women's rights back in the late 1800s/early 1900s and it still very much shows in today's society.

And yet I still see more and more demands for equality and such. I'm just afraid that this will tip the balance of equality, and make women wanting more rights than man (think of what Nikola Tesla said).

If we were in a sinking ship, women and children would be going first to the life boats (or as I've been told). If women demand to be equal as men, why should they get special treatment? Don't they make speeches saying we're strong enough mentally and physically as men? Please, I'm serious. I just want to know. It seems hypocrytical.DMRaMeX

It is called a double standard. I for one dont think a females life is any more valuable than a males. I am glad there are finally women dying and sacrificing themselves in battle. It is about freakin time that they stepped up.

Blank1921

Quite possibly one of the best, most eloquent posts I've ever seen. bravo.

blooddemon666

Unfortunately, that's true. However, it's much more difficult when you're married as opposed to just 'dating'

[QUOTE="creepy_mike"]4. Like foxhound said, women haven't had very much socio-politcal power at all up until less than a hundred years ago, and this is because, like it or not, they were oppressed by men. And now you're holding women responsible for their own hinderance and maltreatment at the hands of men and for not having thousands of years of progress under their collective belts? Whatever.Blank1921

Women (as well as clueless men, unfortunately) do their cause no good by first claiming thatwomen are in every way equal to men, and then presenting themselves as powerless victims of an oppressive male society, because only twoconclusions can be drawn from this assertion, and neither is very flattering to women. Either they really are powerless victims of male domination, in which case they are by definition inferior to men; or they are the equal of men but have allowed themselves to be subordinated, in which case their character can only be regarded as highly suspect. In other words, your argument is terrible, and you should probably stop posting about this issue because you aren't bright enough to understand what the hell you're talking about. Thanks for playing.

Did you read my earlier post? I agree with you on the point that women (and clueless men) in TODAY'S WORLD are hurting the cause of equality by constantly toggling between chivalry and feminism. I was responding to "irelevant" and his statement that HISTORICALLY, women could do nothing without the aid/permission of men which was an exremely sexist assertion on his part. Perhaps if you'd known exactly what I was talking about, you wouldn't have been so quick to insult my intelligence. Or maybe you would have anyway. Not really my problem either way.

Unfortunately, that's true. However, it's much more difficult when you're married as opposed to just 'dating'

RiSkyBiZ-13

Because it's the polite thing to do, and smart thing to do... have you ever had to deal with an angry woman? :shock:double_decker

She'll shut her mouth when you knock her off her high horse.

[QUOTE="double_decker"]Because it's the polite thing to do, and smart thing to do... have you ever had to deal with an angry woman? :shock:blooddemon666

She'll shut her mouth when you knock her off her high horse.

You have not met my mother.

But then again, she is a crazy *****.

She'll shut her mouth when you knock her off her high horse.

blooddemon666

[QUOTE="blooddemon666"]

She'll shut her mouth when you knock her off her high horse.

double_decker

Even if not for the fact of existential motives as for what the rest of society would do to you.

[QUOTE="blooddemon666"]

She'll shut her mouth when you knock her off her high horse.

double_decker

not saying actually "knock her off her horse" but don't give her power in the argument. don't treat her differently because she has a vagina.

Even if not for the fact of existential motives as for what the rest of society would do to you.

jetpower3

not saying actually "knock her off her horse" but don't give her power in the argument. don't treat her differently because she has a ******.

blooddemon666

[QUOTE="jetpower3"]

Even if not for the fact of existential motives as for what the rest of society would do to you.

double_decker

not saying actually "knock her off her horse" but don't give her power in the argument. don't treat her differently because she has a ******.

There you go. That's the only reason why we even have this problem and the topic problem in the first place. In today's society, we are simply taught to think about things in all the "wrong", close-minded ways, and it's going to come back and haunt us someday. Nevermind, it haunts us right now, in nearly every aspect of our lives.