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I've been wondering this over the last few days and I've come to the conclusion that I would stop the birth of Kaiser Wilhelm II.

Reason being; if he had not been so politically inept and imperialistic, then possibly the two world wars would not have happened. The reasoning behind this being that if Germany had renewed their alliance with Russia, France would have remained isolated politically and Germany would have probably reigned in Austria-Hungary after the assassination at Sarajevo.

Without WW1 then the whole Nazi uprising would not have happened and no Holocaust or WW2.

What about the rest of OT?

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Myself.
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George Washington...
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I wouldn't. I think time travel is a sin.
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[QUOTE="AnObscureName"]

I've been wondering this over the last few days and I've come to the conclusion that I would stop the birth of Kaiser Wilhelm II.

Reason being; if he had not been so politically inept and imperialistic, then possibly the two world wars would not have happened. The reasoning behind this being that if Germany had renewed their alliance with Russia, France would have remained isolated politically and Germany would have probably reigned in Austria-Hungary after the assassination at Sarajevo.

Without WW1 then the whole Nazi uprising would not have happened and no Holocaust or WW2.

What about the rest of OT?

If Wilhelm had not been born, was there a second son who the same events would have happened to?
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I wouldn't. I think time travel is a sin.Genetic_Code
A sin? :o I just think it's not possible. Time doesn't work that way.
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[QUOTE="AnObscureName"]

I've been wondering this over the last few days and I've come to the conclusion that I would stop the birth of Kaiser Wilhelm II.

Reason being; if he had not been so politically inept and imperialistic, then possibly the two world wars would not have happened. The reasoning behind this being that if Germany had renewed their alliance with Russia, France would have remained isolated politically and Germany would have probably reigned in Austria-Hungary after the assassination at Sarajevo.

Without WW1 then the whole Nazi uprising would not have happened and no Holocaust or WW2.

What about the rest of OT?

dsmccracken

If Wilhelm had not been born, was there a second son who the same events would have happened to?

I saw that in the twilight zone but with Hitler

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[QUOTE="AnObscureName"]

I've been wondering this over the last few days and I've come to the conclusion that I would stop the birth of Kaiser Wilhelm II.

Reason being; if he had not been so politically inept and imperialistic, then possibly the two world wars would not have happened. The reasoning behind this being that if Germany had renewed their alliance with Russia, France would have remained isolated politically and Germany would have probably reigned in Austria-Hungary after the assassination at Sarajevo.

Without WW1 then the whole Nazi uprising would not have happened and no Holocaust or WW2.

What about the rest of OT?

The problem with thinking like that is not understanding the consequences. By changing this event you could cause an even worse series of events.
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Adam so he wouldn't eat the apple lol
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[QUOTE="kakkarott23"][QUOTE="AnObscureName"]

I've been wondering this over the last few days and I've come to the conclusion that I would stop the birth of Kaiser Wilhelm II.

Reason being; if he had not been so politically inept and imperialistic, then possibly the two world wars would not have happened. The reasoning behind this being that if Germany had renewed their alliance with Russia, France would have remained isolated politically and Germany would have probably reigned in Austria-Hungary after the assassination at Sarajevo.

Without WW1 then the whole Nazi uprising would not have happened and no Holocaust or WW2.

What about the rest of OT?

The problem with thinking like that is not understanding the consequences. By changing this event you could cause an even worse series of events.

exactly, wars and social injustices are part of our society. Discrimination leads to uprising of those being oppressed. This feeling instills hope in others to fight all social injustices. If the Nazi's had not existed, and jewish people had not been persecuted, our world might not be so ready to jump to the aid of the minority. We see the consequences of these actions and therefore, try to avoid them now. If we change what already happened, what would happen could have been worse. Imagine all wars were put on hold until now because the events of WW1 and WW2 didn't happen....without hiroshima, we wouldn't have known the effects of nuclear technology. Now that multiple countries wield nukes, we could be in a wasteland right now due to te wars over seas.
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Do you ever wonder if there's someone who's just growing older now that you could kill before they get ultra-evil and became infamous? Who, when you're older, you'll say: "If I'd only known".
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#14 AnObscureName
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[QUOTE="kakkarott23"][QUOTE="AnObscureName"]

I've been wondering this over the last few days and I've come to the conclusion that I would stop the birth of Kaiser Wilhelm II.

Reason being; if he had not been so politically inept and imperialistic, then possibly the two world wars would not have happened. The reasoning behind this being that if Germany had renewed their alliance with Russia, France would have remained isolated politically and Germany would have probably reigned in Austria-Hungary after the assassination at Sarajevo.

Without WW1 then the whole Nazi uprising would not have happened and no Holocaust or WW2.

What about the rest of OT?

The problem with thinking like that is not understanding the consequences. By changing this event you could cause an even worse series of events.

The events can't be much worse than what happened. I don't know what would have happened otherwise, only guess, but if there had been no WW1 then there would have been no Russian Revolution, so no Cold War, possibly.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Do you ever wonder if there's someone who's just growing older now that you could kill before they get ultra-evil and became infamous? Who, when you're older, you'll say: "If I'd only known".

Easy on the grass there mate.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Do you ever wonder if there's someone who's just growing older now that you could kill before they get ultra-evil and became infamous? Who, when you're older, you'll say: "If I'd only known".

Sometimes.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Do you ever wonder if there's someone who's just growing older now that you could kill before they get ultra-evil and became infamous? Who, when you're older, you'll say: "If I'd only known".

That's why I at least consider killing everyone I know.
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Either Dora the Explorer or SpongeBob.
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Easy on the grass there mate.jointed
It was purely speculative :o On grass, it'd be more like: "Do you ever wonder what it'd be like to eat cheetohs and cheez-its and cheese nips all at the same time? With chocolate milk as the drink?"
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Either Dora the Explorer or SpongeBob. _LiquidFlame_
But they are not real :o
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I would stop Carl Marx from being born because that way there would be no communism. Meaning Stalin would have never killed millions of his own people, and Mao Zedong woud have never come into power also.
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I would stop Carl Marx from being born because that way there would be no communism. Meaning Stalin would have never killed millions of his own people, and Mao Zedong woud have never come into power also.bird-man
you've obviously never heard of Friedrich Engels...
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George Washington...jointed
Why?
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#26 Boba_Fett_3710
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Can I go time and prevent Jesus from being immaculately born?
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Can I go time and prevent Jesus from being immaculately born?Boba_Fett_3710
I did think about that. You'd just have to lay with his mother, and that would stop the immaculate-ness.
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[QUOTE="jointed"]George Washington...blasto65_basic
Why?

He was a traitor to the empire. Without him, the so-called USA would still rightfully belong to the throne of England. Rather.
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[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]Can I go time and prevent Jesus from being immaculately born?Jandurin
I did think about that. You'd just have to lay with his mother, and that would stop the immaculate-ness.

How fortunate, laying with women is what I do best :D
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How fortunate, laying with women is what I do best :DBoba_Fett_3710
Would that make you Jesus' daddy? :o
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[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]How fortunate, laying with women is what I do best :DJandurin
Would that make you Jesus' daddy? :o

Yes, but I doubt it would make me God..
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Yes, but I doubt it would make me God..Boba_Fett_3710
Only one way to find out. *builds time machine*
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[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"]I wouldn't. I think time travel is a sin.Jandurin
A sin? :o I just think it's not possible. Time doesn't work that way.

I agree, but even if hypothetically it was possible, I think that altering history is a sin. In fact, I think it is the greatest sin one could make.
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[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]Yes, but I doubt it would make me God..Jandurin
Only one way to find out. *builds time machine*

*Uses Jandurin's time machine to go back in time to prevent Jandurin from building a time machine* Oh the paradox!!
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"] Only one way to find out. *builds time machine*gobo212
*Uses Jandurin's time machine to go back in time to prevent Jandurin from building a time machine* Oh the paradox!!

OMG. I think you just destroyed a theoretical universe. How does that make you feel? :x
I agree, but even if hypothetically it was possible, I think that altering history is a sin. In fact, I think it is the greatest sin one could make.Genetic_Code
Reasons?
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myself, so i could see a time paradoz being formed and one of the two would happen: A) i'm simply not born B) A paradox is formed beause there are two equal masses in the space continuum, ripping the frabric of time and destroying the world as we know it should be fun to find out which one happens ^^
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[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"]I agree, but even if hypothetically it was possible, I think that altering history is a sin. In fact, I think it is the greatest sin one could make.Jandurin
Reasons?

It's unnatural. It's not the way nature intended to be and it can open history to a plethora of paradoxes. It may also blur the differences between our universe and alternate universes, hypothetically, although that's a long shot.
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[QUOTE="gobo212"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] Only one way to find out. *builds time machine*Jandurin
*Uses Jandurin's time machine to go back in time to prevent Jandurin from building a time machine* Oh the paradox!!

OMG. I think you just destroyed a theoretical universe. How does that make you feel? :x

Like a god!!
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Oh, and additionally, life begins at conception, so if I had to, and I mean absolutely had to stop someone from being born, it would be someone that was aborted anyway, so I would just keep the gametes of the parents separate, but that's about it.
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Oh, and additionally, life begins at conception, so if I had to, and I mean absolutely had to stop someone from being born, it would be someone that was aborted anyway, so I would just keep the gametes of the parents separate, but that's about it.Genetic_Code
"Keep the gametes of the parents separate" That sounds sexy.
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[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"]Oh, and additionally, life begins at conception, so if I had to, and I mean absolutely had to stop someone from being born, it would be someone that was aborted anyway, so I would just keep the gametes of the parents separate, but that's about it.gobo212
"Keep the gametes of the parents separate" That sounds sexy.

Hey, what can I say... abstinence is sexier than the act itself.
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No i wouldn't prevent anyone being born, because its the way things go, its the way things are suppose to be. If someone does something bad we learn from them, and then we don't make that mistake ever again. Anyways if this power was real our world would be screwed up! :twisted:

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Tony Blair, Gordon Brown hell the hole of Parliament.
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Einstein. But I'd keep a copy of all his theories and then take credit for all his work.
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Not very original, I know, but Hitler
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Not very original, I know, but HitlerFunky_Llama
Hmm, how come?
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George Bush. (And I'm a republican!)
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George Bush. (And I'm a republican!)hokies1313
Which one?