Say Satan was an absolutely Real entity , and you had the opportunity to have a chat with him. Would you want to? What kind of things would you ask Him/Her ?:twisted:
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YES! Most definately.
I'd sell my soul. I want the absolute most out of this life, fulll of sin, sin, sin.
I'm not religious btw.
[QUOTE="mindstorm"]"You do realize things are not going to work out that great in the end for you, correct?"smc91352(s)he can't be forgiven? I don't know. However, I have the feeling that he doesn't want to be forgiven. One could "possibly" make the argument that he'll have the chance to repent depending upon your escatological views, but I have the feeling he will not do such a thing.
talking to Satan would affirm to God your true righteousness if you're not tempted, by completely avoiding temptation and choice you'd be defying God's will of choicelamprey263"This, then, is how you should pray: . . . And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one" (Matt. 6:9a, 13.). :P However, this is in no way saying that testing is a bad thing.
[QUOTE="lamprey263"]talking to Satan would affirm to God your true righteousness if you're not tempted, by completely avoiding temptation and choice you'd be defying God's will of choicemindstorm"This, then, is how you should pray: . . . And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one" (Matt. 6:9a, 13.). :P However, this is in no way saying that testing is a bad thing.But you're not supposed to go looking for chances to prove yourself either..
I don't know. However, I have the feeling that he doesn't want to be forgiven. One could "possibly" make the argument that he'll have the chance to repent depending upon your escatological views, but I have the feeling he will not do such a thing.mindstormdo you have to repent to be forgiven? and is Satan God's child?
[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="lamprey263"]talking to Satan would affirm to God your true righteousness if you're not tempted, by completely avoiding temptation and choice you'd be defying God's will of choiceXx_Hopeless_xX"This, then, is how you should pray: . . . And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one" (Matt. 6:9a, 13.). :P However, this is in no way saying that testing is a bad thing.But you're not supposed to go looking for chances to prove yourself either.. That depends upon to what end. If I seek to "prove myself" for the purpose of exalting myself, you are indeed right. However, I regularly pray for trails and difficulties so that I become more obedient to Christ for his name's sake. I'm not one to pray for an "easy life." Heck, one of my greatest turnarounds spiritually was several years back when I prayed that God use me in any way that would glorify his name even if that mean I live a life worse than Job. The next week wasn't the greatest but my relationship with Christ improved 10-fold.
[QUOTE="mindstorm"]I don't know. However, I have the feeling that he doesn't want to be forgiven. One could "possibly" make the argument that he'll have the chance to repent depending upon your escatological views, but I have the feeling he will not do such a thing.smc91352do you have to repent to be forgiven? and is Satan God's child? Satan was a Fallen angel. He thought he was smarter than God/He could rule Heaven. And you do have to Repent for your sins to be Forgiven.
[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="mindstorm"] "This, then, is how you should pray: . . . And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one" (Matt. 6:9a, 13.). :P However, this is in no way saying that testing is a bad thing.mindstormBut you're not supposed to go looking for chances to prove yourself either.. That depends upon to what end. If I seek to "prove myself" for the purpose of exalting myself, you are indeed right. However, I regularly pray for trails and difficulties so that I become more obedient to Christ for his name's sake. I'm not one to pray for an "easy life." Heck, one of my greatest turnarounds spiritually was several years back when I prayed that God use me in any way that would glorify his name even if that mean I live a life worse than Job. The next week wasn't the greatest but my relationship with Christ improved 10-fold. Ah i see..i was more referring to just looking for ways to prove yourself for the hell of it..so you could be like.."Look how strong willed i am 8)"..and such..
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]And you do have to Repent for your sins to be Forgiven.smc91352why? If you don't feel sorry for what you've done why should you be forgiven..you'll just repeat your offense..
[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]The fallen angels name was Lucifer though...Isn't that usually a male name?satan was already confirm as a she. so i would ask her out on a date/
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I dont know Im not religious. someone another thread about satan said "stole the apple from the tree and blame it on adam"
[QUOTE="mindstorm"]I don't know. However, I have the feeling that he doesn't want to be forgiven. One could "possibly" make the argument that he'll have the chance to repent depending upon your escatological views, but I have the feeling he will not do such a thing.smc91352do you have to repent to be forgiven? and is Satan God's child? Yes, one must repent. That is, one must turn from a life of sin and turn toward God, placing his faith in Christ alone. And no, Satan is not God's child. Jesus is the only begotten Son of God. However, we who are in Christ can become adopted into the family as sons of God.
The fallen angels name was Lucifer though...Isn't that usually a male name?[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]
satan was already confirm as a she. so i would ask her out on a date/
TheShadowLord07
I dont know Im not religious. someone another thread about satan said "stole the apple from the tree and blame it on adam"
Satan tempted Eve who took the apple. Eve then gave the apple to Adam.Thats an interesting question. I would find it really interesting to talk to him, but I would find the risks (corruption, pocession, that kind of stuff) to far outweigh the benefits. If it were endorsed by God and I had some sort of divine protection, or something like that, then sure, but otherwise, I'd not risk it.
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Because by sinning you basically give God the finger. :Psmc91352something he can't forgive? No, He can Forgive you for all Sins. There are varying degrees though, Venial and Mortal Sins. Mortal Sins are what get you into Hell if you aren't forgiven. Mortal Sins are like killing someone etc..To qualify for a sin to be mortal you need to know what you're doing is wrong, contemplate it, go through with it, and feel no remorse for your actions. Venial sins are like lying..stuff like that.
[QUOTE="mindstorm"]Yes, one must repent.smc91352Why? And what happens to unforgiven people/angels? Exodus 18:32 states, "For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!" The alternative to living, is dying (if that isn't obvious). Verse 25 of this chapter also states, "Yet you say, 'The way of the Lord is not just.' Hear, O house of Israel: Is my way unjust? Is it not your ways that are unjust?"
No, He can Forgive you for all Sins. There are varying degrees though, Venial and Mortal Sins. Mortal Sins are what get you into Hell if you aren't forgiven. Mortal Sins are like killing someone etc..To qualify for a sin to be mortal you need to know what you're doing is wrong, contemplate it, go through with it, and feel no remorse for your actions. Venial sins are like lying..stuff like that. Snipes_2something he won't forgive, then?
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]No, He can Forgive you for all Sins. There are varying degrees though, Venial and Mortal Sins. Mortal Sins are what get you into Hell if you aren't forgiven. Mortal Sins are like killing someone etc..To qualify for a sin to be mortal you need to know what you're doing is wrong, contemplate it, go through with it, and feel no remorse for your actions. Venial sins are like lying..stuff like that. smc91352something he won't forgive, then? No, God can forgive all sins. You need to go to confession/show him your sorry for your sins though.
[QUOTE="mindstorm"]Exodus 18:32 states, "For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!"smc91352because (s)he doesn't take pleasure out of it, (s)he won't forgive it? :P Because God is good, he will not allow evil to remain forever. However, in his grace if something turns from evil, only then will it not be destroyed in the everlasting fire. God takes pleasure in that which is good. In coming to repentance, the Almighty God himself rejoices.
(s)he can't be forgiven?smc91352
No, there is no forgiveness for fallen angels. Christ took upon Himself a human body, which endured physical death for sin. Angels do not have human bodies, they are spiritual beings. They can manifest themselves, but they don't have Christ's promise of forgiveness.
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]No, God can forgive all sins.smc91352yes, you said that; are all sins forgiven? and if not, and like you said (s)he can forgive them, is it that (s)he won't? All sins are forgiven if you repent for them. If they aren't forgiven it's because you aren't sorry for what you have done, why should God forgive you if you aren't sorry for Hurting Him? Are we talking about Satan or just normal people. If it's Satan I think I misunderstood the question :lol: Disregard everything I said so far if that's so.
[QUOTE="smc91352"] (s)he can't be forgiven?topsemag55
No, there is no forgiveness for fallen angels. Christ took upon Himself a human body, which endured physical death for sin. Angels do not have human bodies, they are spiritual beings. They can manifest themselves, but they don't have Christ's promise of forgiveness.
Oh Oh...I think I misunderstood the question. I thought we were talking about the Average Joe.All sins are forgiven if you repent for them. If they aren't forgiven it's because you aren't sorry for what you have done, why should God forgive you if you aren't sorry for Hurting Him?Snipes_2why does it matter if the sinner is sorry? is it not possible to forgive without them being sorry?
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]All sins are forgiven if you repent for them. If they aren't forgiven it's because you aren't sorry for what you have done, why should God forgive you if you aren't sorry for Hurting Him?smc91352why does it matter if the sinner is sorry? is it not possible to forgive without them being sorry? No, It's not. By sinning you are showing God means nothing to you.
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