If you could talk to Satan - Would you?

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#1 Xsan3
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Say Satan was an absolutely Real entity , and you had the opportunity to have a chat with him. Would you want to? What kind of things would you ask Him/Her ?:twisted:

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#2 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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I wouldn't..

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#3 th3warr1or
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Assuming I could stop talking to him at will, he couldn't possess me, or start corrupting my subconscious decisions, yes I would.
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#4 ShadowJax04
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YES! Most definately.

I'd sell my soul. I want the absolute most out of this life, fulll of sin, sin, sin.

I'm not religious btw.

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#5 mindstorm
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"You do realize things are not going to work out that great in the end for you, correct?" However, I try not communicate with demonic spirits as a general rule to live by.
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#6 Litchie
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Assuming I could stop talking to him at will, he couldn't possess me, or start corrupting my subconscious decisions, yes I would. th3warr1or
Yeah, this. It would be really interesting to speak to Satan, but I wouldn't want to suffer because of it.

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#7 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"]"You do realize things are not going to work out that great in the end for you, correct?" However, I try not communicate with demonic spirits as a general rule to live by.

Same here :lol: I wouldn't talk to him.
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#8 momo372
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I would ask him if he was a good or bad entity? I mean doesnt he punish those who do bad things for his self pleasure, or because thats his job?

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#9 l4dak47
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I would. It'd be interesting to hear his side of of what happened between him and god.
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#10 lamprey263
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only if he has intervenious drugs and loose hookers T.O.S. DISCLAIMER, hypothetical thread with hypothetical conditions, with hypothetical drug and hooker illegality a non-issues outside the human realm of law and consequence, and by loose hookers I only mean morally loose, not that other kind of loose I'm not allowed to talk about
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"You do realize things are not going to work out that great in the end for you, correct?"mindstorm
(s)he can't be forgiven?
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#12 TheShadowLord07
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satan was already confirm as a she. so i would ask her out on a date/

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#13 mo0ksi
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Well I talk to him everyday, so...
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#14 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"]"You do realize things are not going to work out that great in the end for you, correct?"smc91352
(s)he can't be forgiven?

I don't know. However, I have the feeling that he doesn't want to be forgiven. One could "possibly" make the argument that he'll have the chance to repent depending upon your escatological views, but I have the feeling he will not do such a thing.
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#15 Snipes_2
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satan was already confirm as a she. so i would ask her out on a date/

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The fallen angels name was Lucifer though...Isn't that usually a male name?
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#16 lamprey263
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talking to Satan would affirm to God your true righteousness if you're not tempted, by completely avoiding temptation and choice you'd be defying God's will of choice
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#17 mindstorm
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talking to Satan would affirm to God your true righteousness if you're not tempted, by completely avoiding temptation and choice you'd be defying God's will of choicelamprey263
"This, then, is how you should pray: . . . And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one" (Matt. 6:9a, 13.). :P However, this is in no way saying that testing is a bad thing.
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#18 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="lamprey263"]talking to Satan would affirm to God your true righteousness if you're not tempted, by completely avoiding temptation and choice you'd be defying God's will of choicemindstorm
"This, then, is how you should pray: . . . And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one" (Matt. 6:9a, 13.). :P However, this is in no way saying that testing is a bad thing.

But you're not supposed to go looking for chances to prove yourself either..
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I don't know. However, I have the feeling that he doesn't want to be forgiven. One could "possibly" make the argument that he'll have the chance to repent depending upon your escatological views, but I have the feeling he will not do such a thing.mindstorm
do you have to repent to be forgiven? and is Satan God's child?
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#20 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="lamprey263"]talking to Satan would affirm to God your true righteousness if you're not tempted, by completely avoiding temptation and choice you'd be defying God's will of choiceXx_Hopeless_xX
"This, then, is how you should pray: . . . And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one" (Matt. 6:9a, 13.). :P However, this is in no way saying that testing is a bad thing.

But you're not supposed to go looking for chances to prove yourself either..

That depends upon to what end. If I seek to "prove myself" for the purpose of exalting myself, you are indeed right. However, I regularly pray for trails and difficulties so that I become more obedient to Christ for his name's sake. I'm not one to pray for an "easy life." Heck, one of my greatest turnarounds spiritually was several years back when I prayed that God use me in any way that would glorify his name even if that mean I live a life worse than Job. The next week wasn't the greatest but my relationship with Christ improved 10-fold.
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"]I don't know. However, I have the feeling that he doesn't want to be forgiven. One could "possibly" make the argument that he'll have the chance to repent depending upon your escatological views, but I have the feeling he will not do such a thing.smc91352
do you have to repent to be forgiven? and is Satan God's child?

Satan was a Fallen angel. He thought he was smarter than God/He could rule Heaven. And you do have to Repent for your sins to be Forgiven.

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#22 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="mindstorm"] "This, then, is how you should pray: . . . And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one" (Matt. 6:9a, 13.). :P However, this is in no way saying that testing is a bad thing.mindstorm
But you're not supposed to go looking for chances to prove yourself either..

That depends upon to what end. If I seek to "prove myself" for the purpose of exalting myself, you are indeed right. However, I regularly pray for trails and difficulties so that I become more obedient to Christ for his name's sake. I'm not one to pray for an "easy life." Heck, one of my greatest turnarounds spiritually was several years back when I prayed that God use me in any way that would glorify his name even if that mean I live a life worse than Job. The next week wasn't the greatest but my relationship with Christ improved 10-fold.

Ah i see..i was more referring to just looking for ways to prove yourself for the hell of it..so you could be like.."Look how strong willed i am 8)"..and such..
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Satan was a Fallen angel. He thought he was smarter than God/He could rule Heaven. Snipes_2
is that a yes?
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Satan was a Fallen angel. He thought he was smarter than God/He could rule Heaven. smc91352
is that a yes?

No, He wasn't Gods Son and Yes you do have to repent for your sins.
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And you do have to Repent for your sins to be Forgiven.Snipes_2
why?
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#26 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]And you do have to Repent for your sins to be Forgiven.smc91352
why?

If you don't feel sorry for what you've done why should you be forgiven..you'll just repeat your offense..
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#27 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]And you do have to Repent for your sins to be Forgiven.smc91352
why?

To show that you're sorry for what you've done.
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#28 TheShadowLord07
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[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

satan was already confirm as a she. so i would ask her out on a date/

Snipes_2

The fallen angels name was Lucifer though...Isn't that usually a male name?

I dont know Im not religious. someone another thread about satan said "stole the apple from the tree and blame it on adam"

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No, never...I would just cause him to leave.:x

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#30 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"]I don't know. However, I have the feeling that he doesn't want to be forgiven. One could "possibly" make the argument that he'll have the chance to repent depending upon your escatological views, but I have the feeling he will not do such a thing.smc91352
do you have to repent to be forgiven? and is Satan God's child?

Yes, one must repent. That is, one must turn from a life of sin and turn toward God, placing his faith in Christ alone. And no, Satan is not God's child. Jesus is the only begotten Son of God. However, we who are in Christ can become adopted into the family as sons of God.
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#31 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

satan was already confirm as a she. so i would ask her out on a date/

TheShadowLord07

The fallen angels name was Lucifer though...Isn't that usually a male name?

I dont know Im not religious. someone another thread about satan said "stole the apple from the tree and blame it on adam"

Satan tempted Eve who took the apple. Eve then gave the apple to Adam.

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#32 smc91352
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To show that you're sorry for what you've done. Snipes_2
why do you need to do that?
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#33 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]To show that you're sorry for what you've done. smc91352
why do you need to do that?

Because by sinning you basically give God the finger. :P

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#34 Grodus5
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Thats an interesting question. I would find it really interesting to talk to him, but I would find the risks (corruption, pocession, that kind of stuff) to far outweigh the benefits. If it were endorsed by God and I had some sort of divine protection, or something like that, then sure, but otherwise, I'd not risk it.

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#35 smc91352
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Yes, one must repent.mindstorm
Why? And what happens to unforgiven people/angels?
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Because by sinning you basically give God the finger. :PSnipes_2
something (s)he can't forgive?
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Because by sinning you basically give God the finger. :Psmc91352
something he can't forgive?

No, He can Forgive you for all Sins. There are varying degrees though, Venial and Mortal Sins. Mortal Sins are what get you into Hell if you aren't forgiven. Mortal Sins are like killing someone etc..To qualify for a sin to be mortal you need to know what you're doing is wrong, contemplate it, go through with it, and feel no remorse for your actions. Venial sins are like lying..stuff like that.
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Lucifer used to be one of the three archangels of God, and was considered very beautiful and intelligent. However, he let that get into his head and started to desire to be equal to God. One third of the angels followed Satan and it started a war between God and Lucifer. Lucifer got casted down into the earth and his fallen angels became demons. He took on the name of Satan and began to plot to overthrow God. Satan does not want to be saved, he wants to be equal to God, and if it means his doom, then he will drag down humanity with him and make God's victory is Pyrrhic one.
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#39 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"]Yes, one must repent.smc91352
Why? And what happens to unforgiven people/angels?

Exodus 18:32 states, "For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!" The alternative to living, is dying (if that isn't obvious). Verse 25 of this chapter also states, "Yet you say, 'The way of the Lord is not just.' Hear, O house of Israel: Is my way unjust? Is it not your ways that are unjust?"
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No, He can Forgive you for all Sins. There are varying degrees though, Venial and Mortal Sins. Mortal Sins are what get you into Hell if you aren't forgiven. Mortal Sins are like killing someone etc..To qualify for a sin to be mortal you need to know what you're doing is wrong, contemplate it, go through with it, and feel no remorse for your actions. Venial sins are like lying..stuff like that. Snipes_2
something he won't forgive, then?
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Exodus 18:32 states, "For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!"mindstorm
because (s)he doesn't take pleasure out of it, (s)he won't forgive it? :P
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]No, He can Forgive you for all Sins. There are varying degrees though, Venial and Mortal Sins. Mortal Sins are what get you into Hell if you aren't forgiven. Mortal Sins are like killing someone etc..To qualify for a sin to be mortal you need to know what you're doing is wrong, contemplate it, go through with it, and feel no remorse for your actions. Venial sins are like lying..stuff like that. smc91352
something he won't forgive, then?

No, God can forgive all sins. You need to go to confession/show him your sorry for your sins though.
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#43 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"]Exodus 18:32 states, "For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!"smc91352
because (s)he doesn't take pleasure out of it, (s)he won't forgive it? :P

Because God is good, he will not allow evil to remain forever. However, in his grace if something turns from evil, only then will it not be destroyed in the everlasting fire. God takes pleasure in that which is good. In coming to repentance, the Almighty God himself rejoices.
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#44 smc91352
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No, God can forgive all sins.Snipes_2
yes, you said that; are all sins forgiven? if not, and like you said (s)he can forgive them, is it that (s)he won't?
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Because God is good, he will not allow evil to remain forever.mindstorm
he can't end evil and forgive at the same time?
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(s)he can't be forgiven?smc91352

No, there is no forgiveness for fallen angels. Christ took upon Himself a human body, which endured physical death for sin. Angels do not have human bodies, they are spiritual beings. They can manifest themselves, but they don't have Christ's promise of forgiveness.

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]No, God can forgive all sins.smc91352
yes, you said that; are all sins forgiven? and if not, and like you said (s)he can forgive them, is it that (s)he won't?

All sins are forgiven if you repent for them. If they aren't forgiven it's because you aren't sorry for what you have done, why should God forgive you if you aren't sorry for Hurting Him? Are we talking about Satan or just normal people. If it's Satan I think I misunderstood the question :lol: Disregard everything I said so far if that's so.

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[QUOTE="smc91352"] (s)he can't be forgiven?topsemag55

No, there is no forgiveness for fallen angels. Christ took upon Himself a human body, which endured physical death for sin. Angels do not have human bodies, they are spiritual beings. They can manifest themselves, but they don't have Christ's promise of forgiveness.

Oh Oh...I think I misunderstood the question. I thought we were talking about the Average Joe.
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All sins are forgiven if you repent for them. If they aren't forgiven it's because you aren't sorry for what you have done, why should God forgive you if you aren't sorry for Hurting Him?Snipes_2
why does it matter if the sinner is sorry? is it not possible to forgive without them being sorry?
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#50 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]All sins are forgiven if you repent for them. If they aren't forgiven it's because you aren't sorry for what you have done, why should God forgive you if you aren't sorry for Hurting Him?smc91352
why does it matter if the sinner is sorry? is it not possible to forgive without them being sorry?

No, It's not. By sinning you are showing God means nothing to you.