I'd probably start yammering about how I want to boom headshot the enemy and make random references to games like COD or other war games, making it sound like I was going to do that. I'd go all over the top with it, and then say how fun i think it is when games let you shoot your own team. Basically I'd say as much as I could to make myself sound like an idiot and a threat to the other troops if I were facing being drafted.
Yup i'd definitely go only cowards dodge drafts.Sp4rtan_3
If the draft was brought on by a war or action that I did not personally believe in, I would do anything to not be drafted. Why would I possibly kill for something I don't believe in?
Yup i'd definitely go only cowards dodge drafts.Sp4rtan_3
And only a sheep would go to war just because the government said it was the right thing to do. I hate the way people can use patriotism as an excuse to defend anything the government does.
[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Yup i'd definitely go only cowards dodge drafts.jalexbrown
And only a sheep would go to war just because the government said it was the right thing to do. I hate the way people can use patriotism as an excuse to defend anything the government does. I would equally dislike the people who would use all manner of "philosophical" excuses to get out of serving their country when it needs them.
[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Yup i'd definitely go only cowards dodge drafts.fidosim
And only a sheep would go to war just because the government said it was the right thing to do. I hate the way people can use patriotism as an excuse to defend anything the government does. I would equally dislike the people who would use all manner of "philosophical" excuses to get out of serving their country when it needs them. And who is supposed to determine when my country needs me?
[QUOTE="jalexbrown"]And who is supposed to determine when my country needs me?fidosim
Military leaders, policymakers, etc. That's still pretty blindly following the government and assuming that the information they're giving you is accurate.
I know in my case if all my friends went off to fight after the draft and I fled to Canada or something I'd regret it for the rest of my life. I'd feel too guilty about everyone else going off while I ran and hid. You gotta do what you gotta do.
[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="jalexbrown"]And who is supposed to determine when my country needs me?jalexbrown
Military leaders, policymakers, etc. That's still pretty blindly following the government and assuming that the information they're giving you is accurate. All the information they need to give is that they need you to serve. If you're concerned about what you're fighting for, you have a number of independent media sources and freedom of information to assist you.
[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="fidosim"] Military leaders, policymakers, etc.fidosim
That's still pretty blindly following the government and assuming that the information they're giving you is accurate. All the information they need to give is that they need you to serve. If you're concerned about what you're fighting for, you have a number of independent media sources and freedom of information to assist you. Coming from a guy with George Bush in his sig, I'm not overly surprised.
[QUOTE="Ace6301"]Probably be a conscientious objector. I would go and all but I wouldn't be shooting anyone.Dystopian-X
Go and shoot your own comrades instead. That ought to teach them. ^_^
Thats what some soldiers did in the Vietnam war to their higher officers sometimes. It's called "fragging", where they'd basically throw a frag into a shower when a officer is showering to try to kill/injure/scare the hell outta him.
[QUOTE="Ace6301"]Probably be a conscientious objector. I would go and all but I wouldn't be shooting anyone.taj7575
Go and shoot your own comrades instead. That ought to teach them. ^_^
Thats what some soldiers did in the Vietnam war to their higher officers sometimes. It's called "fragging", where they'd basically throw a frag into a shower when a officer is showering to try to kill/injure/scare the hell outta him.
That sounds like one hell of a way to get your ass court marshaled.
Thats what some soldiers did in the Vietnam war to their higher officers sometimes. It's called "fragging", where they'd basically throw a frag into a shower when a officer is showering to try to kill/injure/scare the hell outta him.
taj7575
Just wiki'd it.
Fragging most often involved the murder of a commanding officer (C.O.) or a senior non commissioned officer perceived as unpopular, harsh, inept or overzealous.
If the USA was being attacked non-stop on our land with millions of civilians dying, i might do it. In other words: if i feel that putting my life at risk could save the country, then possibly. However, if there was a Vietnam style fight that had nothing to do with the USA, then i wouldn't probably run.
It makes perfect sense. Crazy murderer holding gun to victims head. Snipe and kill murderer. Victim saved. It may or may not be that simple in an actual war but the concept is not inherently flawed.
If you look past what's right and what's wrong it doesn't make sense. If the objective is to save a life by taking a life then it is a no win situation. Because either way sombody dies.
I know in my case if all my friends went off to fight after the draft and I fled to Canada or something I'd regret it for the rest of my life. I'd feel too guilty about everyone else going off while I ran and hid. You gotta do what you gotta do.snowman6251
Damn that would probably kill me inside too. I might end up forcing myself to go under those circumstances.
[QUOTE="Dystopian-X"] Go and shoot your own comrades instead. That ought to teach them. ^_^
snowman6251
Thats what some soldiers did in the Vietnam war to their higher officers sometimes. It's called "fragging", where they'd basically throw a frag into a shower when a officer is showering to try to kill/injure/scare the hell outta him.
That sounds like one hell of a way to get your ass court marshaled.
Also sounds like a hell of a way to save your life from a bad higher command lol.
Thats what some soldiers did in the Vietnam war to their higher officers sometimes. It's called "fragging", where they'd basically throw a frag into a shower when a officer is showering to try to kill/injure/scare the hell outta him.
Dystopian-X
Just wiki'd it.
Fragging most often involved the murder of a commanding officer (C.O.) or a senior non commissioned officer perceived as unpopular, harsh, inept or overzealous.
Lol definitely interesting.
Yeah it definitely is. Happened a good amount in the Vietnam war, and I could see why. I had a chance to talk to multiple Vets and, although they listened to their orders, they didn't always like how the higher command handled things. Fragging was something to another level though; that happened pretty rarely.
Yup i'd definitely go only cowards dodge drafts.Sp4rtan_3
Or, you know, people who don't want to kill or die for things they dont believe in. Or have their life uprooted for things they don't believe in. I'm against war in general, so I'm not about to have my life turned upside down to do something I fundamentally disagree with.
[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Yup i'd definitely go only cowards dodge drafts.Pixel-Pirate
Or, you know, people who don't want to kill or die for things they dont believe in. Or have their life uprooted for things they don't believe in. I'm against war in general, so I'm not about to have my life turned upside down to do something I fundamentally disagree with.
Specially if it's for something as trivial and random as the country you have the misfortune of being born.
I got a back injury when I was younger. Doesn't really affect me now but it would probably stop me from being in the armed forces in any active combat roles (suppose if I became a communications officer or intelligence specialist I wouldn't mind being there at all).
[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Yup i'd definitely go only cowards dodge drafts.Pixel-Pirate
Or, you know, people who don't want to kill or die for things they dont believe in. Or have their life uprooted for things they don't believe in. I'm against war in general, so I'm not about to have my life turned upside down to do something I fundamentally disagree with.
That's your perogative, but you should understand that the world we live in, with all of its conveniences, was built by people who didn't think the way you do.
I think we should have everyone who is capable serve two years. And if there was an imminent draft I would volunteer instead.Welkabonz
I think a military made up of unwilling prisoners who would do anything to get out is anything but an effective military. Do you want to be in the same group as the guy who doesn't want to be there, doesn't care if you die, and will do absolutely anything to get out?
[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Yup i'd definitely go only cowards dodge drafts.fidosim
Or, you know, people who don't want to kill or die for things they dont believe in. Or have their life uprooted for things they don't believe in. I'm against war in general, so I'm not about to have my life turned upside down to do something I fundamentally disagree with.
That's your perogative, but you should understand that the world we live in, with all of its conveniences, was built by people who didn't think the way you do.
Good for them. That was their choice and they fought for me to have a choice, did they not? If I am forced to do something, where is my choice?
However I've never been worried about a draft as I am neither mentally nor physically fit.
[QUOTE="fidosim"] That's your perogative, but you should understand that the world we live in, with all of its conveniences, was built by people who didn't think the way you do. I'm guessing the country you live in was built by people who did.
Good for them. That was their choice and they fought for me to have a choice, did they not? If I am forced to do something, where is my choice?
However I've never been worried about a draft as I am neither mentally nor physically fit.
They fought, above all for the security of the state. The primary purpose of the state is to protect its citizens from external threats, thus giving them the ability to serve in non-military roles. If people weren't willing to fight to protect their communities, civilization as we know it could never have developed.
Good for them. That was their choice and they fought for me to have a choice, did they not? If I am forced to do something, where is my choice?
However I've never been worried about a draft as I am neither mentally nor physically fit.
fidosim
They fought, above all for the security of the state. The primary purpose of the state is to protect its citizens from external threats, thus giving them the ability to serve in non-military roles. If people weren't willing to fight to protect their communities, civilization as we know it could never have developed.
That is their perogative. I do not believe in violence or war.
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