Arabic (so I could possibly live in the UAE or Qatar where they are little to no taxes), and Mandarin Chinese (so I can be able to play my own part in the most resurgent economy in the world).
chinese (i know mandarin to an extent but being abe to read and write way better than i do now would be great) and english (being better is still great :P) and if not english, russian or german.
You Japanophiles really annoy me! Why do so many people want to learn Japanese even though its only spoken in Japan, which is not a big place, as you know. How about learning a practical language instead of wanting to be able to understand lame cartoons. Weaboo'spushrhymes
Err... I plan to actually go to Tokyo some day, and it would be nice to... I dunno... COMMUNICATE with the locals?
[QUOTE="pushrhymes"]You Japanophiles really annoy me! Why do so many people want to learn Japanese even though its only spoken in Japan, which is not a big place, as you know. How about learning a practical language instead of wanting to be able to understand lame cartoons. Weaboo'sJustPlainLucas
Err... I plan to actually go to Tokyo some day, and it would be nice to... I dunno... COMMUNICATE with the locals? Learning a country's language and then VISITING that country? You sir are insane!
Japanese and Welshtofu-lion91
Why Welsh? :P Despite being Welsh myself I've never seen the appeal in it.
Spannish and Italian. I already know basic German and the main language in this world (English), Spain would help me a lot as cus my parents have a house there and Italian is just a sexy language :Dclembo1990
Both of them are fun to learn and they're similar, but some differences can get tricky. ;p
You Japanophiles really annoy me! Why do so many people want to learn Japanese even though its only spoken in Japan, which is not a big place, as you know. How about learning a practical language instead of wanting to be able to understand lame cartoons. Weaboo'spushrhymes
Braindead_hero wants to live in Japan for a few years and I think it'd be interesting so I'd at least like to learn the language :)
[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"]Japanese and Welshsuper_mario_128
Why Welsh? :P Despite being Welsh myself I've never seen the appeal in it. Half my family are Welsh and I think it's an interesting language :D Shame they lost the rugby today...I've worn my Welsh t-shirt and rugby shirt all day :(
[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"]Shame they lost the rugby today...I've worn my Welsh t-shirt and rugby shirt all day :(super_mario_128
England lost actually (HA!). :P Fair enough. I was glad to finish Welsh at GCSE to be honest. Really? Yay :D I've been...um...busy with Braindead_hero all day so I didn't have time to sit down and watch it :oops:
[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"][QUOTE="clembo1990"]btw a lot of Japanophiles in this thread :? it's a difficult language to learn yourself, though.Video_Game_King
Not really - the language is the most logical language on the planet, along with Korean. Almost no irregulars.
I'll just ask this: how? How can a language be logical? I'm not asking that rhetorically, I really do expect some sort of answer.
Languages can be logical, like if you start looking at all the western languages as derivations of sanskrit. Even then, Japanese is far from the 'most logical language on the planet'. I mean all the freaking honorifics and modifiers in that language are HIGHLY illogical.
[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"][QUOTE="clembo1990"] Not really - the language is the most logical language on the planet, along with Korean. Almost no irregulars.Video_Game_King
I'll just ask this: how? How can a language be logical? I'm not asking that rhetorically, I really do expect some sort of answer.
Languages can be logical, like if you start looking at all the western languages as derivations of sanskrit. Even then, Japanese is far from the 'most logical language on the planet'. I mean all the freaking honorifics and modifiers in that language are HIGHLY illogical. The modifiers and honorifics are a highly logical system showing social status and feelings. There is nothing illogical about them - it's just something extra you'll have to learn.
[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"] The modifiers and honorifics are a highly logical system showing social status and feelings. There is nothing illogical about them - it's just something extra you'll have to learn. Hey,working under post-sino-tibetan language logic, it makes absolutely no sense why my sentences should get longer the older people are.
[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"][QUOTE="clembo1990"]btw a lot of Japanophiles in this thread :? it's a difficult language to learn yourself, though.Video_Game_King
Not really - the language is the most logical language on the planet, along with Korean. Almost no irregulars.
I'll just ask this: how? How can a language be logical? I'm not asking that rhetorically, I really do expect some sort of answer.
All words that relate to electricity begin with den-. All words that have to do with something being new begin with shin-. All words that relate to food have tabe or shoku in them somewhere. All words having something to do with cars (aside from the word car itself) have -sha- in it. Way to do things end in -kata, if you want to make a noun a verb, you add -suru, words to do with women have jo or onna in them. And these are only a few examples, there's thousands of these thanks to the Kanji system. Words that don't follow these patters are called ateji - irregular readings. Japanese only has around 2-5 irregular verbs. Compare this to other languages which usually have 20 at the least, and European languages which can have several hundreds if not 1000s.
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"] The modifiers and honorifics are a highly logical system showing social status and feelings. There is nothing illogical about them - it's just something extra you'll have to learn. Hey,working under post-sino-tibetan language logic, it makes absolutely no sense why my sentences should get longer the older people are. That isn't the language, that's the culture. And it shows high levels of respect, something that other languages seem to have difficulty expressing.
[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"] Not really - the language is the most logical language on the planet, along with Korean. Almost no irregulars.Vandalvideo
I'll just ask this: how? How can a language be logical? I'm not asking that rhetorically, I really do expect some sort of answer.
Languages can be logical, like if you start looking at all the western languages as derivations of sanskrit. Even then, Japanese is far from the 'most logical language on the planet'. I mean all the freaking honorifics and modifiers in that language are HIGHLY illogical.I believe that a language shows a cultures worldview. For example in ancient Greek the verb "I see" is believed to be closely related to the verb "I know for sure", which shows that ancient greeks held vision as a form of proof. Pretty much like saying "I won't believe something untill I see it with my own eyes". Now that was just an example.
The same may apply to other language functions including basic structures, word order, even phonoaesthetic values.
[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"] That isn't the language, that's the culture. And it shows high levels of respect, something that other languages seem to have difficulty expressing. Its embedded in the language as well. Just like, excuse my romaji; Eita shai masen; which I've had to say on plenty of occasion to my customers....which is weirdd cause I live in the durty south. Anyway, the language is modified by these honorifics. Working under the sino-tibetan language model (IE; Asia |China, korea, Tibet, Vietnam, etc|) it just seems like extravagancy.
[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"] That isn't the language, that's the culture. And it shows high levels of respect, something that other languages seem to have difficulty expressing.Vandalvideo
Its embedded in the language as well. Just like, excuse my romaji; Eita shai masen; which I've had to say on plenty of occasion to my customers....which is weirdd cause I live in the durty south. Anyway, the language is modified by these honorifics. Working under the sino-tibetan language model (IE; Asia |China, korea, Tibet, Vietnam, etc|) it just seems like extravagancy. That would be great - except Japanese doesn't drive from Sino-Tibetan. It's a language that is either a language isolate or it derives from Ancient Korean, or it's an Altaic language. (I bought into it being a Korean language).
Japanese has almost nothing to with Chiense or Tibetan aside from the many borrowed words.
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"] That isn't the language, that's the culture. And it shows high levels of respect, something that other languages seem to have difficulty expressing.Vanadium2k8
Its embedded in the language as well. Just like, excuse my romaji; Eita shai masen; which I've had to say on plenty of occasion to my customers....which is weirdd cause I live in the durty south. Anyway, the language is modified by these honorifics. Working under the sino-tibetan language model (IE; Asia |China, korea, Tibet, Vietnam, etc|) it just seems like extravagancy. That would be great - except Japanese doesn't drive from Sino-Tibetan. It's a language that is either a language isolate or it derives from Ancient Korean, or it's an Altaic language. (I bought into it being a Korean language).
Japanese has almost nothing to with Chiense or Tibetan aside from the many borrowed words.
Uh...Japan basically took the written language of China full stock and barrel then modified it based on that. So it is....in a way, based on Sino-Tibetan language.
[QUOTE="clembo1990"]btw a lot of Japanophiles in this thread :? it's a difficult language to learn yourself, though.Vanadium2k8
Not really - the language is the most logical language on the planet, along with Korean. Almost no irregulars. Well as a European using european letters it'd probz be harder for me to understand a non alphabet-based language. It is more neat, granted, but reading japanese would be hard.
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Its embedded in the language as well. Just like, excuse my romaji; Eita shai masen; which I've had to say on plenty of occasion to my customers....which is weirdd cause I live in the durty south. Anyway, the language is modified by these honorifics. Working under the sino-tibetan language model (IE; Asia |China, korea, Tibet, Vietnam, etc|) it just seems like extravagancy.Vandalvideo
That would be great - except Japanese doesn't drive from Sino-Tibetan. It's a language that is either a language isolate or it derives from Ancient Korean, or it's an Altaic language. (I bought into it being a Korean language).
Japanese has almost nothing to with Chiense or Tibetan aside from the many borrowed words.
Uh...Japan basically took the written language of China full stock and barrel then modified it based on that. So it is....in a way, based on Sino-Tibetan language. The Japanese used Chinese for writing and reading - there was no writing system for Japanese but the language itself did exist. Then it borrowed the writing system, and along with it, many words. The grammar and structure never changed however - it's like how English borrowed many words from French but you wouldn't say it's a Romance language.
[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"] The Japanese used Chinese for writing and reading - there was no writing system for Japanese but the language itself did exist. Then it borrowed the writing system, and along with it, many words. The grammar and structure never changed however - it's like how English borrowed many words from French but you wouldn't say it's a Romance language. Actually, as someone who is big on language, I often refer to all the languages in Europe as "romance languages", just as I refer to all the modern sino-tibetan languages (Sub-China) as Chinese. I mean, its only fair. If I were to apply the western model to China, China would have like 215 languages. 0_0
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