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#1 Lebbin
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What are you thoughts about illegal immigrants in your country?

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The founders of America were immigrants, so they should be able to come in; and I live in a heavily Hispanic area. I don't mind, if our country is about freedoms and rights, then we should give those freedoms and rights to as many people as we can.
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The founders of America were immigrants, so they should be able to come in; and I live in a heavily Hispanic area. I don't mind, if our country is about freedoms and rights, then we should give those freedoms and rights to as many people as we can.Lord__Darkstorn

bingo, this man speaks the truth

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They're breaking the law and over populating everything. Not to be mean or anything but most like have 10 babies each. It's also hard for me to find a job close to where I live because I don't speak good spanish..
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...they should be booted and made to come in the country legally....end of story.....I'm second generation myself..but my grandparents had enough respect for this country to come here and earn citizenship......

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#6 Omni-Slash
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[QUOTE="Lord__Darkstorn"]The founders of America were immigrants, so they should be able to come in; and I live in a heavily Hispanic area. I don't mind, if our country is about freedoms and rights, then we should give those freedoms and rights to as many people as we can.smallcaplegend

bingo, this man speaks the truth

that's anunreasonable/idealistic thought....has never been a country with open boarders...the infrastructure would collapse...
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They're breaking the law and over populating everything. Not to be mean or anything but most like have 10 babies each. It's also hard for me to find a job close to where I live because I don't speak good spanish..SlashDementia3

1.there good for the economy

2.no we dont have 10 babies each/sterotype

3.its hard for you to find a job, did you go to highschool cuz there are spainish speaking classes

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...they should be booted and made to come in the country legally....end of story.....I'm second generation myself..but my grandparents had enough respect for this country to come here and earn citizenship......

Omni-Slash

What country they come from? Anyway I don't really care so long as they provide for the economy rather than leeching off the system.

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...they should be booted and made to come in the country legally....end of story.....I'm second generation myself..but my grandparents had enough respect for this country to come here and earn citizenship......

Omni-Slash


Bingo, this man speaks the truth.
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I think the problem is blown way out of proportion. Sure they can come in legally, once they come up with all the money for the fees, but oh wait that would mean they wouldn't be able to eat for a year and they'd be dead. Also when they go buy a 6-pack they are paying taxes and a lot of them do, but everyone is too busy trying to make them look like criminals. I'm sure if you got rid of them the same violence and everything would go on in the ghetto because people are poor and trying to make a quick buck selling drugs and killing each other.
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#11 shaza91
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Our doors for legal immigration aren't closed, so I think they should get out and comeback in the normal way.
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They should be deported and enter america legally. They are hurting our economy and crime rate risen around the country from this on going problem. I can not understand why the US government just enforce the law and we wouldn't be having this on going problem.
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What country they come from? Anyway I don't really care so long as they provide for the economy rather than leeching off the system.james28893
Slovenia.....
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#14 Cerussite
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My close friend's family had to wait 15 years to gain admittance into the U.S. And they were relatively wealthy, too.

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The founders of America were immigrants, so they should be able to come in; and I live in a heavily Hispanic area. I don't mind, if our country is about freedoms and rights, then we should give those freedoms and rights to as many people as we can.Lord__Darkstorn

QFT. We should at least make legal immigration much less of a hassle.

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[QUOTE="smallcaplegend"]

[QUOTE="Lord__Darkstorn"]The founders of America were immigrants, so they should be able to come in; and I live in a heavily Hispanic area. I don't mind, if our country is about freedoms and rights, then we should give those freedoms and rights to as many people as we can.Omni-Slash

bingo, this man speaks the truth

that's anunreasonable/idealistic thought....has never been a country with open boarders...the infrastructure would collapse...

European countries have open borders to other countries within the Union. Sure we Brits have to pay massive subsidies to Belgian farmers but that's besides the point, the EU isn't collapsing.

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[QUOTE="SlashDementia3"]They're breaking the law and over populating everything. Not to be mean or anything but most like have 10 babies each. It's also hard for me to find a job close to where I live because I don't speak good spanish..smallcaplegend

1.there good for the economy

2.no we dont have 10 babies each/sterotype

3.its hard for you to find a job, did you go to highschool cuz there are spainish speaking classes



How are they good?
Area I live in they aren't I know most are here illegally and leave thier beer bottles on the streets I know it's not all and everywhere they have people like that but eh.
I know and well here they actually have alot of children, again in my area. I can't speak for everywhere else.
I should be able to find a job in America without speaking spanish.
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#18 X360PS3AMD05
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I wonder where America would be if you took away all the tax money earned from Illegal Immigrants :lol:
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They should be deported and enter america legally. They are hurting our economy and crime rate risen around the country from this on going problem. I can not understand why the US government just enforce the law and we wouldn't be having this on going problem.ScaredWarrior

Actually, the crime rates for illegal immigrant communities are very low. It's because the immigrants are afraid of breaking the law; if they get caught they might be sent back to their home country. Source=census.gov

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in america:

Citizens: pay taxes, have to buy insurance,

Illegals: Treated specially, get free medical stuff, dont pay taxes.

enuf said

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#21 Omni-Slash
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European countries have open borders to other countries within the Union. Sure we Brits have to pay massive subsidies to Belgian farmers but that's besides the point, the EU isn't collapsing.james28893
...congrats..you've compaired apples with 747s.........
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[QUOTE="ScaredWarrior"]They should be deported and enter america legally. They are hurting our economy and crime rate risen around the country from this on going problem. I can not understand why the US government just enforce the law and we wouldn't be having this on going problem.Lord__Darkstorn

Actually, the crime rates for illegal immigrant communities are very low. It's because the immigrants are afraid of breaking the law; if they get caught they might be sent back to their home country. Source=census.gov

Source=common sense.
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#23 strategyking92
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in america:

Citizens: pay taxes, have to buy insurance,

Illegals: Treated specially, get free medical stuff, dont pay taxes.

enuf said

not that illegals are bad, they just can't suck the life out of our economy by wasting our money and making the rich richer.

..............................................i've already settled this

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[QUOTE="smallcaplegend"]

[QUOTE="SlashDementia3"]They're breaking the law and over populating everything. Not to be mean or anything but most like have 10 babies each. It's also hard for me to find a job close to where I live because I don't speak good spanish..SlashDementia3

1.there good for the economy

2.no we dont have 10 babies each/sterotype

3.its hard for you to find a job, did you go to highschool cuz there are spainish speaking classes



How are they good?
Area I live in they aren't I know most are here illegally and leave thier beer bottles on the streets I know it's not all and everywhere they have people like that but eh.
I know and well here they actually have alot of children, again in my area. I can't speak for everywhere else.
I should be able to find a job in America without speaking spanish.

Well as I said so long as they're working then they are providing for the economy, they paid for that beer, adding to the overall economy, you should be able to find a job with out having to learn spanish.

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#25 Lord__Darkstorn
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in america:

Citizens: pay taxes, have to buy insurance,

Illegals: Treated specially, get free medical stuff, dont pay taxes.

enuf said

strategyking92

actually, they don't get any benefits. You must be a child because if you have ever filed a tax return or payed a medical bill, you'd know that you need to pay taxes top get any gov't benefits.

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[QUOTE="SlashDementia3"]They're breaking the law and over populating everything. Not to be mean or anything but most like have 10 babies each. It's also hard for me to find a job close to where I live because I don't speak good spanish..smallcaplegend

1.there good for the economy

2.no we dont have 10 babies each/sterotype

3.its hard for you to find a job, did you go to highschool cuz there are spainish speaking classes

1. No they are hurting the economy. When someone looses their job to someone who is willing to work for below minimum wage, the only one who wins are the ones who already have the money.

2. That is a stupid stereotype

3. I don't have a problem with having to learn to speak spanish to help me get a job, survival of the smartest. But I do have a problem when the person taking my order doesn't even speak English.

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actually, they don't get any benefits. You must be a child because if you have ever filed a tax return or payed a medical bill, you'd know that you need to pay taxes top get any gov't benefits. Lord__Darkstorn
yeah no.......:|
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#29 strategyking92
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[QUOTE="strategyking92"]

in america:

Citizens: pay taxes, have to buy insurance,

Illegals: Treated specially, get free medical stuff, dont pay taxes.

enuf said

Lord__Darkstorn

actually, they don't get any benefits. You must be a child because if you have ever filed a tax return or payed a medical bill, you'd know that you need to pay taxes top get any gov't benefits.

well, in my state.

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#30 KillaHalo2o9
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The USA is not controlling the illegal immigrant issue on purpose, so these immigrants in the future will fill up the jobs of the retiring baby boomers.
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[QUOTE="james28893"]European countries have open borders to other countries within the Union. Sure we Brits have to pay massive subsidies to Belgian farmers but that's besides the point, the EU isn't collapsing.Omni-Slash
...congrats..you've compaired apples with 747s.........

Just means legal immigration is a lot easier. I do think open borders could work, if there were fewer people in the world...

EDIT: Sorry? Apples with 747s? Well, I live in Wimbledon and there seem to be plenty of French apples that have just bobbed over the Channel. They contribute to the economy.

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[QUOTE="smallcaplegend"]

[QUOTE="SlashDementia3"]They're breaking the law and over populating everything. Not to be mean or anything but most like have 10 babies each. It's also hard for me to find a job close to where I live because I don't speak good spanish..SlashDementia3

1.there good for the economy

2.no we dont have 10 babies each/sterotype

3.its hard for you to find a job, did you go to highschool cuz there are spainish speaking classes



How are they good?
Area I live in they aren't I know most are here illegally and leave thier beer bottles on the streets I know it's not all and everywhere they have people like that but eh.
I know and well here they actually have alot of children, again in my area. I can't speak for everywhere else.
I should be able to find a job in America without speaking spanish.

I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that your government is giving all the jobs away and hurting our economy. Also if it would increase your chances of getting a job you just might want to learn Spanish. All the jobs are taken because Illegals work them for $1/hour :lol:
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#33 club-sandwich
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in america:

Citizens: pay taxes, have to buy insurance,

Illegals: Treated specially, get free medical stuff, dont pay taxes.

enuf said

strategyking92
yeah but they do alot of stuff you americans would never do...
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The USA is not controlling the illegal immigrant issue on purpose, so these immigrants in the future will fill up the jobs of the retiring baby boomers.KillaHalo2o9

So it's all about conspiracy now???? Or maybe, the illegals actually have the power to heal wounds, and are america's answer for the low number of doctors and nurses.!

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The real problem is overpopulation. The reason that illegal immigrants have so many kids isn't because they're mostly Mexicans, it's because they're Catholic...

no offense, of course, but...

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The USA is not controlling the illegal immigrant issue on purpose, so these immigrants in the future will fill up the jobs of the retiring baby boomers.KillaHalo2o9
when was the last time you saw an illegal immigrant taking a $80,000 a year job.....they are replacing no one...they are artificially keeping wages low while not contributing to the tax pool while using govt resources....ie they are a burden on the economy.....
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[QUOTE="smallcaplegend"]

[QUOTE="SlashDementia3"]They're breaking the law and over populating everything. Not to be mean or anything but most like have 10 babies each. It's also hard for me to find a job close to where I live because I don't speak good spanish..shaza91

1.there good for the economy

2.no we dont have 10 babies each/sterotype

3.its hard for you to find a job, did you go to highschool cuz there are spainish speaking classes

1. No they are hurting the economy. When someone looses their job to someone who is willing to work for below minimum wage, the only one who wins are the ones who already have the money.

2. That is a stupid stereotype

3. I don't have a problem with having to learn to speak spanish to help me get a job, survival of the smartest. But I do have a problem when the person taking my order doesn't even speak English.

1.But when a meat packing co has to be shut down due to having 90% of there employees illegal. now think of that widespread. sadly i am still looking for th article that backs my statement

2.i agree

3. i also agree, even though i speak spainish i hate it when i have to order in spainish

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[QUOTE="SlashDementia3"][QUOTE="smallcaplegend"]

[QUOTE="SlashDementia3"]They're breaking the law and over populating everything. Not to be mean or anything but most like have 10 babies each. It's also hard for me to find a job close to where I live because I don't speak good spanish..james28893

1.there good for the economy

2.no we dont have 10 babies each/sterotype

3.its hard for you to find a job, did you go to highschool cuz there are spainish speaking classes



How are they good?
Area I live in they aren't I know most are here illegally and leave thier beer bottles on the streets I know it's not all and everywhere they have people like that but eh.
I know and well here they actually have alot of children, again in my area. I can't speak for everywhere else.
I should be able to find a job in America without speaking spanish.

Well as I said so long as they're working then they are providing for the economy, they paid for that beer, adding to the overall economy, you should be able to find a job with out having to learn spanish.



Well they're throwing it away on the streets. Not like me whining is going to do anything. But they really should come here legally.
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#39 strategyking92
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[QUOTE="strategyking92"]

in america:

Citizens: pay taxes, have to buy insurance,

Illegals: Treated specially, get free medical stuff, dont pay taxes.

enuf said

club-sandwich

yeah but they do alot of stuff you americans would never do...

Yeah, and THAT'S THE PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The USA is not controlling the illegal immigrant issue on purpose, so these immigrants in the future will fill up the jobs of the retiring baby boomers.Omni-Slash
when was the last time you saw an illegal immigrant taking a $80,000 a year job.....they are replacing no one...they are artificially keeping wages low while not contributing to the tax pool while using govt resources....ie they are a burden on the economy.....

I meant their childern.

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#41 Lord__Darkstorn
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[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="strategyking92"]

in america:

Citizens: pay taxes, have to buy insurance,

Illegals: Treated specially, get free medical stuff, dont pay taxes.

enuf said

strategyking92

yeah but they do alot of stuff you americans would never do...

Yeah, and THAT'S THE PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

That's not a problem at all. They're not taking anything away. They don't get gov't benefits because they don't pay taxes.

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[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The USA is not controlling the illegal immigrant issue on purpose, so these immigrants in the future will fill up the jobs of the retiring baby boomers.KillaHalo2o9

when was the last time you saw an illegal immigrant taking a $80,000 a year job.....they are replacing no one...they are artificially keeping wages low while not contributing to the tax pool while using govt resources....ie they are a burden on the economy.....

I meant their childern.

Child labor was eliminated a while ago...

Yeah I was joking! I'm not THAT stupid.

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#43 Omni-Slash
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I meant their childern.

KillaHalo2o9
...really?....really?....you honestly thing that a population of illegal immigrants children...(of which the majority of still don't speak passible english) will take over the high-end market jobs......no......if anything they are being used by corporations and farms to keep their costs down...pure and simple...
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The real problem is overpopulation. The reason that illegal immigrants have so many kids isn't because they're mostly Mexicans, it's because they're Catholic...

no offense, of course, but...

Lord__Darkstorn
I think it's because they weren't taught about contraceptives in their lifetime.
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#45 smallcaplegend
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i agree there breaking the laws, but shouldn't we fix the problem=the border. its utterly useless why poor billions on some thing that doesnt work. It takes years to come here legally, why not speed up the process, everyones happy.
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#46 Frost_Mage
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That's not a problem at all. They're not taking anything away. They don't get gov't benefits because they don't pay taxes.

Lord__Darkstorn

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33783-2004Aug25.html

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#47 Lord__Darkstorn
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[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]

I meant their childern.

Omni-Slash

...really?....really?....you honestly thing that a population of illegal immigrants children...(of which the majority of still don't speak passible english) will take over the high-end market jobs......no......if anything they are being used by corporations and farms to keep their costs down...pure and simple...

No, 70% of illegal immigrant children speak fluent English. It's their working age PARENTS who only have a 20% fluency rate.

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[QUOTE="strategyking92"][QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="strategyking92"]

in america:

Citizens: pay taxes, have to buy insurance,

Illegals: Treated specially, get free medical stuff, dont pay taxes.

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yeah but they do alot of stuff you americans would never do...

Yeah, and THAT'S THE PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

That's not a problem at all. They're not taking anything away. They don't get gov't benefits because they don't pay taxes.

1. They do

2. They don't match the standards the Great american schooling system has set the young'ins on tommorow for! lol

(americans don't even match the standard even now)

So how does this help the economy? It even hurts the lower jobs

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No, 70% of illegal immigrant children speak fluent English. It's their working age PARENTS who only have a 20% fluency rate.Lord__Darkstorn
yeah no.....not even close.....
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#50 K-E316
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i dont care. its not bothering me. and no im not an illegal. REALLY IM NOT