'I'm gonna hit my kids so they respect me.'

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#51 DivergeUnify
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I think spankings should be mandatory for all children. They don't even have to be misbehaving; it's just good to remind them who's boss.Oleg_Huzwog
That's what arbitrary rules such as "don't put your socks in your shoes!" are for: you teach them discipline and they learn who's boss when they break the rules ;)
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#52 DOS4dinner
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It needs to be used like atomic weaponry: Used once to show control and gain respect but then only used as a threat afterwords that usually does not get used.
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#53 yagr_zero
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Fear doesn't mean respect in my books. Respect has to be earned, not instilled.
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#54 -TheSecondSign-
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My parents effectively disciplined me with spankings and stuff.

And my brother, who never got spanked and where they tried all the methods and he's spoiled as ****.

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#55 _______1_______
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It's discipline. There is a very thin line between fear and respect.Boba_Fett_3710
Hello there. :) I hope you are joking because this is actually a major problem. Fear and respect are actually polar opposites. There is no respect in fear, and no fear in respect.
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#56 UnrighteousFury
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I'd certainly never hit my kids just for the hell of it, but I do think that discipline sometimes requires getting physical, but never anywhere near enough to cause the child serious injury.

I was a bad kid, and my mom had no qualms with spanking me when I deserved it. I like to think I turned out pretty well, and my mom and I have a great relationship.

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#57 _______1_______
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I plan on physically disciplining my kids as I believe it is the right thing to do. Don't try to change my mind about this one. Anybody can say it's wrong but if it is, please feel free to offer a LOGICAL alternative to dealing with an undeveloped child mind with no reasoning skills.Boba_Fett_3710
Hi again. :) You already planning on physically disciplining your children before they are even born is extremely disturbing. It's as if you don't even want to think about alternatives. I wonder how much of a temper problem you have. How about your wife? Will you smack her around if she doesn't have dinner ready on time? I sense some control issues within your words.
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#58 munu9
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[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

Hitting your kids isn't right no matter what the circumstances.

End. Of. Discussion.

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What if a child isn't at the age to acknowledge what is morally, legally, economically right or wrong. You cant have a sophisticated talk with a child who doesn't understand the true meaning of the word "wrong" as opposed to its usage.

I agree, it's no use to hit a kid under 8 or 10 years old. But even at age 6 they understand what "stop" means, what do you do if they don't listen to your "stop"?
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#59 ice144
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If you think hitting your kids is okay, then you have already failed as a parent. sinistergoggles
So what other method is there to disclipining a nonresponsive child who is too young to have a talk to? *Points to The Boondocks*
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#60 zobo93
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i think that kids could use a smack every once in a while
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#61 R0cky_Racc00n
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[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]I plan on physically disciplining my kids as I believe it is the right thing to do. Don't try to change my mind about this one. Anybody can say it's wrong but if it is, please feel free to offer a LOGICAL alternative to dealing with an undeveloped child mind with no reasoning skills._______1_______
Hi again. :) You already planning on physically disciplining your children before they are even born is extremely disturbing. It's as if you don't even want to think about alternatives. I wonder how much of a temper problem you have. How about your wife? Will you smack her around if she doesn't have dinner ready on time? I sense some control issues within your words.

You have the best username EVAR!!!
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#62 Oleg_Huzwog
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Fear and respect are actually polar opposites._______1_______

Not according to the thesaurus. They even share a few synonyms.

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#63 D3nnyCrane
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Well Chris Benoit strangled his family, and fans still love him, so maybe your friend has a point...
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#64 CJL182
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I have absolutely no problem with parents spanking their children as long as their bad behavior warrants the spanking. Spanking should be the most physically extreme punishment for a child, so it should rarely be used imo.
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#65 monsterslash
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i'm all for spanking kids. if my sister never hit her kids for SOME of the bad things they did then all of our stuff would be in the toilet. now i just got to stop them from stealing game controllers
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#66 munu9
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[QUOTE="_______1_______"]Fear and respect are actually polar opposites.Oleg_Huzwog

Not according to the thesaurus. They even share a few synonyms.

respect is gained, fear is made. You gain respect, or you make someone fear you. Making someone respect you is fear
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[QUOTE="_______1_______"]Fear and respect are actually polar opposites.Oleg_Huzwog

Not according to the thesaurus. They even share a few synonyms.

Hello there. :)

A thesaurus does not reflect the different paths that branch out from scenarios displaying either word in action. Just think about it. Do you fear the people you respect? No. Do you respect the people you fear? No. That's because they never go together. A thesaurus doesn't take into account emotional stimuli.

Bear in mind that a thesaurus is a man made invention, and as such, the societal norms as accepted upon during the time of publishing, will have a direct influence on what words will be described as meaning what. Definitons change over time however, as human beings evolve and realize things they never knew before about the phenomena they previously thought they had all figured out. This is actually a perfect example. Thanks for bringing it up. :)

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[QUOTE="sinistergoggles"]If you think hitting your kids is okay, then you have already failed as a parent. ice144
So what other method is there to disclipining a nonresponsive child who is too young to have a talk to? *Points to The Boondocks*

Talking some sense into them is better than knocking some into them... I don't know too much about "The Boondocks". It's best of you raise your children so they doesn't end up like those dudes; that way the though of hitting never crosses your mind.

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#69 _______1_______
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i'm all for spanking kids. if my sister never hit her kids for SOME of the bad things they did then all of our stuff would be in the toilet. now i just got to stop them from stealing game controllersmonsterslash
Hello there. :) Protecting material items should never be the motivation behind disciplining children, when they are simply exploring their natural curiousities about this life that is new and confusing to them. It sounds as if your sister may have not thought very far about ways to teach children the value of possessions.
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#70 stevenk4k5
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I am a thorough believer in a belt across the ass for misbehaving.
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#71 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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I would never hit my children (if I ever get some) that doessnt mean I wont punish them...

I was never hit when I was a kid, and I turned out pretty morally good, even going as far as respecting my old folks, and help whenever needed at my age.

Violence brings defience, as does yelling, worst things to do is not to explain why something happens to them.

That said Ive seen some horrible examples of spoiled brats, that really needed a whooping.

Just hope my children are like me :s calm and rationel.

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#72 monsterslash
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[QUOTE="monsterslash"]i'm all for spanking kids. if my sister never hit her kids for SOME of the bad things they did then all of our stuff would be in the toilet. now i just got to stop them from stealing game controllers_______1_______
Hello there. :) Protecting material items should never be the motivation behind disciplining children, when they are simply exploring their natural curiousities about this life that is new and confusing to them. It sounds as if your sister may have not thought very far about ways to teach children the value of possessions.

more of a tap on the hand and warning. if we let them throw all our car keys down the toilet we wouldn't be in a very good position now would we? especially when we don't have too many spares to waste and the price to have a new set made with central locking? that would be $150 a set. you have to draw the line somewhere, there are things we need

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#73 helium_flash
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If the kid deserve to be beat, they should be beaten.  As long as it is justified.

That said, I think beating should be for only the most extreme punishments.

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[QUOTE="_______1_______"][QUOTE="monsterslash"]i'm all for spanking kids. if my sister never hit her kids for SOME of the bad things they did then all of our stuff would be in the toilet. now i just got to stop them from stealing game controllersmonsterslash

Hello there. :) Protecting material items should never be the motivation behind disciplining children, when they are simply exploring their natural curiousities about this life that is new and confusing to them. It sounds as if your sister may have not thought very far about ways to teach children the value of possessions.

more of a tap on the hand and warning. if we let them throw all our car keys down the toilet we wouldn't be in a very good position now would we? especially when we don't have too many spares to waste and the price to have a new set made with central locking? that would be $150 a set. you have to draw the line somewhere, there are things we need

Hi again. :) Well a tap on the hand and a warning is a lot different than the "if my sister never hit her kids" line that you delivered. The word hit conjures up images that are a lot more forceful than a slight tap on the hand. I doubt your keys would flush down the toilet though, unless they are realy small keys, but last time I checked, car keys are usually pretty thick. Maybe you might lose you mailbox key down the toilet. :)
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#75 espoac
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I really don't understand how a parent could hit their child when their are much better forms of discipline. Spanking, no matter how harmless people think it is, makes a child develop feeling of resentment towards the parent.
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#76 stevenk4k5
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I really don't understand how a parent could hit their child when their are much better forms of discipline. Spanking, no matter how harmless people think it is, makes a child develop feeling of resentment towards the parent. espoac
I don't resent my mother, aunts, uncles, and grandparents for beating me. :|
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#77 monsterslash
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[QUOTE="monsterslash"]

[QUOTE="_______1_______"] Hello there. :) Protecting material items should never be the motivation behind disciplining children, when they are simply exploring their natural curiousities about this life that is new and confusing to them. It sounds as if your sister may have not thought very far about ways to teach children the value of possessions. _______1_______

more of a tap on the hand and warning. if we let them throw all our car keys down the toilet we wouldn't be in a very good position now would we? especially when we don't have too many spares to waste and the price to have a new set made with central locking? that would be $150 a set. you have to draw the line somewhere, there are things we need

Hi again. :) Well a tap on the hand and a warning is a lot different than the "if my sister never hit her kids" line that you delivered. The word hit conjures up images that are a lot more forceful than a slight tap on the hand. I doubt your keys would flush down the toilet though, unless they are realy small keys, but last time I checked, car keys are usually pretty thick. Maybe you might lose you mailbox key down the toilet. :)

they still will get hit, but when they are doing something really wrong. yeah and you can still ruin the remotes on them and they can still slide under the S bend. and it's not just the toilet, they will stuff everything anywhere. and you can't tell a 2year old not to do that because they wont understand you

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#78 EmpCom
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Well after seeing a young child getting slapped across the face by her father , which i must say she handled well.This reaction quickly turned to horror when my fist landed on the fathers head.Tell you this the last time i help a kid out.
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#79 Tim_Q
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I really don't understand how a parent could hit their child when their are much better forms of discipline. Spanking, no matter how harmless people think it is, makes a child develop feeling of resentment towards the parent. espoac

My father belted me all the time when I was a little kid. In fact, it made me a better person. I was a messed up child, and because of his discipline with me, I changed my behavior so I wouldn't get belted again. And by the way, I respect my father more than anyone else on this planet. The guy is my hero.

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they still will get hit, but when they are doing something really wrong. yeah and you can still ruin the remotes on them and they can still slide under the S bend. and it's not just the toilet, they will stuff everything anywhere. and you can't tell a 2year old not to do that because they wont understand youmonsterslash
Hi again. :) You can also not hit a 2 year old, as they will not understand why they are being struck. It is up to the parents to develop a little gem of a virtue that we call patience, so they can understand why a 2 year old would do the things they do, and I guarantee you it has nothing to do with misbehaving. How anyone can hit a toddler is way beyond my understanding, and I'm glad I can't understand it, because I'm certain it's quite disgusting.
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#81 xXSecksXx
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[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

Hitting your kids isn't right no matter what the circumstances.

End. Of. Discussion.

legend26

have fun with this ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVEwCqfi9MU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn18H3FKDV4&feature=related

smacking your kids when they act stupid and disrespect you = proper parenting imo

 

I raged hard.  

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#82 DDRMom
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I used to say I wouldn't spank my children. Then I had three.

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#83 monsterslash
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[QUOTE="monsterslash"]they still will get hit, but when they are doing something really wrong. yeah and you can still ruin the remotes on them and they can still slide under the S bend. and it's not just the toilet, they will stuff everything anywhere. and you can't tell a 2year old not to do that because they wont understand you_______1_______
Hi again. :) You can also not hit a 2 year old, as they will not understand why they are being struck. It is up to the parents to develop a little gem of a virtue that we call patience, so they can understand why a 2 year old would do the things they do, and I guarantee you it has nothing to do with misbehaving. How anyone can hit a toddler is way beyond my understanding, and I'm glad I can't understand it, because I'm certain it's quite disgusting.

so how many kids do you have? and how do you deal with them?

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[QUOTE="_______1_______"][QUOTE="monsterslash"]they still will get hit, but when they are doing something really wrong. yeah and you can still ruin the remotes on them and they can still slide under the S bend. and it's not just the toilet, they will stuff everything anywhere. and you can't tell a 2year old not to do that because they wont understand youmonsterslash

Hi again. :) You can also not hit a 2 year old, as they will not understand why they are being struck. It is up to the parents to develop a little gem of a virtue that we call patience, so they can understand why a 2 year old would do the things they do, and I guarantee you it has nothing to do with misbehaving. How anyone can hit a toddler is way beyond my understanding, and I'm glad I can't understand it, because I'm certain it's quite disgusting.

so how many kids do you have? and how do you deal with them?

Hi again. :)

I myself have none, but I have nephews and nieces, and my brother and sister have never hit their children, because they feel the same way I do. They deal with them by calmly explaining things in detail, and with explicit honesty. Always works. Some parents are too afraid to be honest with their children, which of course, causes even more problems down the road. What a tangled web we weave, huh? Some people have children before they are ready to. You need the utmost in emotional stability before taking on a responsibility of immeasurable magnitude.

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#85 monsterslash
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[QUOTE="monsterslash"]

[QUOTE="_______1_______"] Hi again. :) You can also not hit a 2 year old, as they will not understand why they are being struck. It is up to the parents to develop a little gem of a virtue that we call patience, so they can understand why a 2 year old would do the things they do, and I guarantee you it has nothing to do with misbehaving. How anyone can hit a toddler is way beyond my understanding, and I'm glad I can't understand it, because I'm certain it's quite disgusting._______1_______

so how many kids do you have? and how do you deal with them?

Hi again. :)

I myself have none, but I have nephews and nieces, and my brother and sister have never hit their children, because they feel the same way I do. They deal with them by calmly explaining things in detail, and with explicit honesty. Always works. Some parents are too afraid to be honest with their children, which of course, causes even more problems down the road. What a tangled web we weave, huh? Some people have children before they are ready to. You need the utmost in emotional stability before taking on a responsibility of immeasurable magnitude.

wait, do you live with them? because i live with 3 small children. maybe you will think differently if you do. and i don't see how explaining something in detail would work, they would just do it again

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[QUOTE="_______1_______"][QUOTE="monsterslash"]

so how many kids do you have? and how do you deal with them?

monsterslash

Hi again. :)

I myself have none, but I have nephews and nieces, and my brother and sister have never hit their children, because they feel the same way I do. They deal with them by calmly explaining things in detail, and with explicit honesty. Always works. Some parents are too afraid to be honest with their children, which of course, causes even more problems down the road. What a tangled web we weave, huh? Some people have children before they are ready to. You need the utmost in emotional stability before taking on a responsibility of immeasurable magnitude.

wait, do you live with them? because i live with 3 small children. maybe you will think differently if you do. and i don't see how explaining something in detail would work, they would just do it again

Hi again. :)

I do not live with them, though I do spend time with them often. They never tear up my house. Explaining in detail works when you put enough effort into it. Alas, there lies another problem with most parents: Laziness. Always looking for the quick fix.

I am heading to the market now, as I realized I've forgotten a couple items I need for supper tonight, so I will chat with you later young man. Take it easy. :)

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#87 monsterslash
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sure why not, i should get back to work too. but my mind is unchanged
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#88 sparkypants
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First of all there is a fine line between disipline and abuse when it comes to hitting your kid, and while I cant stand abuse I do agree that the disipline is necessary. Just yelling at your kids doesnt work, Iv seen so many kids grow up the wrong way and Iv seen parents treated with such disrespect because they were never taught to never go against their parents wishes. You yell at your kid to not stay out past midnight, chances are hes going to do it just to spite you...but if the kid knows that he will be hurtin if he crosses that line and disobeys you, you know this kid is going to be carefull about his actions and will get home no later than 11:59! Now than lets get this straight, Im not suggesting beating the respect out of your kids  because that doesnt work and your friend is stupid. hitting your child should be the

ABSOLUTE LAST RESORT

when it comes to disiplining your child. They are not your punching bags they are your children but god forbid they cross that line,a love tap isnt going to kill them. thats all I have to say on the subject

 

 

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#89 Darth_Sibbs
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Hitting your kids isn't right no matter what the circumstances.

End. Of. Discussion.

THE_DRUGGIE
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#90 blazinpuertoroc
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i think brutally beating kids half to death so they respect me has a better ring to it...
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#91 OfficialBed
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i think it's a foolish thing to say
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#92 pygmahia5
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I think spankings should be mandatory for all children. They don't even have to be misbehaving; it's just good to remind them who's boss.Oleg_Huzwog
yes, totally agree.
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#93 funnymario
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It worked on me and my less hit younger brother is quite rude so I'm hitting my kids. There are a lot better reasons to not like my parents other than them hitting me.
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#94 MrGeezer
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It's stupid. Hitting kids inspires fear, not respect. The difference between these is something that a lot of people do not understand. Definitions: Fear, noun: a distressing emotion aroused by impending danger, evil, pain, etc., whether the threat is real or imagined; the feeling or condition of being afraid. Respect, noun: esteem for or a sense of the worth or excellence of a person, a personal quality or ability, or something considered as a manifestation of a personal quality or abilitychessmaster1989

 

Punishments in general inspire fear of some sort. Fear that you're gonna get hit, fear that you're gonna lose your X-Box, Fear that your parents won't buy you a car for your 16th birthday if you keep acting up. I can't say that I've ever respected my parents for punishing me WHILE they were punishing me, but I've certainly respected them more later for having the balls to be "the bad guy" when I needed to be put in my place.

 

Earning respect doesn't require that you're a total flake. Some of the most respected people alive have been harsh when they needed to be harsh. Letting your kids run wild doesn't make them respect you either. 

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#95 iam2green
Member since 2007 • 13991 Posts
i actually kind of smirked at that quote. i just think ti would lead him to jial time for abuse.
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#96 hokies1313
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I respect my father, and he never hit me. I don't think I would if he had hit me.
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#97 Shiggums
Member since 2007 • 21436 Posts
Makes sense. It will make them respect you, though it'll also make them hate you...
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#98 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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when there young, maybe once in a while when there getting out of line. but once there teens i hope to god that i'm not as stupid as my father and figure respect dosen't go both ways.
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#99 jmg128thinfrgt
Member since 2006 • 793 Posts
lol ummm maybe keeping a stern presence would be better than abuse, but who am I to say that not being a parent and all?
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#100 cfamgcn
Member since 2004 • 5587 Posts
I really don't understand how a parent could hit their child when their are much better forms of discipline. Spanking, no matter how harmless people think it is, makes a child develop feeling of resentment towards the parent. espoac
You are so wrong there. My mom disciplined my sister and me that way, and we totally love her. I know plenty of people who feel the same way, too. ~de arimasu :P If I ever have kids, I'll make sure to properly discipline them. Of course, abusing of it is another matter which shouldn't ever happen, and they will know the reason of my actions. ~de arimasu