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[QUOTE="SIapshot"]"The mean pattern of educational and economic achievement within multi-racial countries such as Canada and the United States has increasingly been found to prove valid internationally. For example, it is not often recognized, perhaps because it contradicts the politically correct theories that intelligence is purely a matter of socio-economic conditions, that Asian-Americans and Asians in Asia often outscore white Americans and white Europeans on IQ tests and on tests of educational achievement (even though the tests were largely developed by Europeans and white Americans for use in a Euro-American culture). Blacks in the Caribbean, Britain, Canada and sub-Saharan Africa as well as in the United States have low IQ scores relative to whites. For violent crime, analyses of INTERPOL data from the 1980s and 1990s show the same international distribution that occurs within the United States (that is, Asians least, Europeans in the middle, and Africans most). A similar racial gradient is found both within the U.S. and globally for measures of sexual activity and frequencies of sexually transmitted diseases such as AIDS (based on World Health Organization data). " Proffesor J Phillipe Rushton, University of Western Ontario http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/late/jpr01.html-R3Vo

I might be going to Western's med. school once I'm done in Waterloo :):). But yea good quotation.

Glad to hear that, best of luck to you, I hear it's an excellent school.
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"The mean pattern of educational and economic achievement within multi-racial countries such as Canada and the United States has increasingly been found to prove valid internationally. For example, it is not often recognized, perhaps because it contradicts the politically correct theories that intelligence is purely a matter of socio-economic conditions, that Asian-Americans and Asians in Asia often outscore white Americans and white Europeans on IQ tests and on tests of educational achievement (even though the tests were largely developed by Europeans and white Americans for use in a Euro-American culture). Blacks in the Caribbean, Britain, Canada and sub-Saharan Africa as well as in the United States have low IQ scores relative to whites. For violent crime, analyses of INTERPOL data from the 1980s and 1990s show the same international distribution that occurs within the United States (that is, Asians least, Europeans in the middle, and Africans most). A similar racial gradient is found both within the U.S. and globally for measures of sexual activity and frequencies of sexually transmitted diseases such as AIDS (based on World Health Organization data). " Proffesor J Phillipe Rushton, University of Western Ontario SIapshot
Nature or nurture?
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="SIapshot"]"The mean pattern of educational and economic achievement within multi-racial countries such as Canada and the United States has increasingly been found to prove valid internationally. For example, it is not often recognized, perhaps because it contradicts the politically correct theories that intelligence is purely a matter of socio-economic conditions, that Asian-Americans and Asians in Asia often outscore white Americans and white Europeans on IQ tests and on tests of educational achievement (even though the tests were largely developed by Europeans and white Americans for use in a Euro-American culture). Blacks in the Caribbean, Britain, Canada and sub-Saharan Africa as well as in the United States have low IQ scores relative to whites. For violent crime, analyses of INTERPOL data from the 1980s and 1990s show the same international distribution that occurs within the United States (that is, Asians least, Europeans in the middle, and Africans most). A similar racial gradient is found both within the U.S. and globally for measures of sexual activity and frequencies of sexually transmitted diseases such as AIDS (based on World Health Organization data). " Proffesor J Phillipe Rushton, University of Western Ontario http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/late/jpr01.html SIapshot

Of course, the white racists' logic would lead them to come to the conclusion here that Asians are the superior race. But they ignore this because they want to be the superior race.

Of course, the progressive liberal's logic is to put words into peoples mouths and distort the truth.

No, no, wait! I wasn't accusing you of being one of those racists. I'm just saying that, you know, by their logic, you'd have to come to that conclusion.

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[QUOTE="SIapshot"]"The mean pattern of educational and economic achievement within multi-racial countries such as Canada and the United States has increasingly been found to prove valid internationally. For example, it is not often recognized, perhaps because it contradicts the politically correct theories that intelligence is purely a matter of socio-economic conditions, that Asian-Americans and Asians in Asia often outscore white Americans and white Europeans on IQ tests and on tests of educational achievement (even though the tests were largely developed by Europeans and white Americans for use in a Euro-American culture). Blacks in the Caribbean, Britain, Canada and sub-Saharan Africa as well as in the United States have low IQ scores relative to whites. For violent crime, analyses of INTERPOL data from the 1980s and 1990s show the same international distribution that occurs within the United States (that is, Asians least, Europeans in the middle, and Africans most). A similar racial gradient is found both within the U.S. and globally for measures of sexual activity and frequencies of sexually transmitted diseases such as AIDS (based on World Health Organization data). " Proffesor J Phillipe Rushton, University of Western Ontario Mr_sprinkles
Nature or nurture?

Nature certainly has an influence on nurture.
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="SIapshot"]"The mean pattern of educational and economic achievement within multi-racial countries such as Canada and the United States has increasingly been found to prove valid internationally. For example, it is not often recognized, perhaps because it contradicts the politically correct theories that intelligence is purely a matter of socio-economic conditions, that Asian-Americans and Asians in Asia often outscore white Americans and white Europeans on IQ tests and on tests of educational achievement (even though the tests were largely developed by Europeans and white Americans for use in a Euro-American culture). Blacks in the Caribbean, Britain, Canada and sub-Saharan Africa as well as in the United States have low IQ scores relative to whites. For violent crime, analyses of INTERPOL data from the 1980s and 1990s show the same international distribution that occurs within the United States (that is, Asians least, Europeans in the middle, and Africans most). A similar racial gradient is found both within the U.S. and globally for measures of sexual activity and frequencies of sexually transmitted diseases such as AIDS (based on World Health Organization data). " Proffesor J Phillipe Rushton, University of Western Ontario http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/late/jpr01.html -R3Vo

Of course, the white racists' logic would lead them to come to the conclusion here that Asians are the superior race. But they ignore this because they want to be the superior race.

Do you know how many Asians there are in the world? Really blows statistics out of perportion. How does this make Mr. Rushton a white racist? If you also want to keep your race based logic the smartest people in the world have been white... Einstein, Tesla, etc... Those tests all come down to spam, it's like the zerg rush.

No it doesn't. The tests are done by averages. What do think they do,find the total IQ for the entire race? Christ.

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[QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="SIapshot"]"The mean pattern of educational and economic achievement within multi-racial countries such as Canada and the United States has increasingly been found to prove valid internationally. For example, it is not often recognized, perhaps because it contradicts the politically correct theories that intelligence is purely a matter of socio-economic conditions, that Asian-Americans and Asians in Asia often outscore white Americans and white Europeans on IQ tests and on tests of educational achievement (even though the tests were largely developed by Europeans and white Americans for use in a Euro-American culture). Blacks in the Caribbean, Britain, Canada and sub-Saharan Africa as well as in the United States have low IQ scores relative to whites. For violent crime, analyses of INTERPOL data from the 1980s and 1990s show the same international distribution that occurs within the United States (that is, Asians least, Europeans in the middle, and Africans most). A similar racial gradient is found both within the U.S. and globally for measures of sexual activity and frequencies of sexually transmitted diseases such as AIDS (based on World Health Organization data). " Proffesor J Phillipe Rushton, University of Western Ontario http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/late/jpr01.html Funky_Llama

Of course, the white racists' logic would lead them to come to the conclusion here that Asians are the superior race. But they ignore this because they want to be the superior race.

Of course, the progressive liberal's logic is to put words into peoples mouths and distort the truth.

No, no, wait! I wasn't accusing you of being one of those racists. I'm just saying that, you know, by their logic, you'd have to come to that conclusion.

Thank you for clarifying that.
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[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="SIapshot"]"The mean pattern of educational and economic achievement within multi-racial countries such as Canada and the United States has increasingly been found to prove valid internationally. For example, it is not often recognized, perhaps because it contradicts the politically correct theories that intelligence is purely a matter of socio-economic conditions, that Asian-Americans and Asians in Asia often outscore white Americans and white Europeans on IQ tests and on tests of educational achievement (even though the tests were largely developed by Europeans and white Americans for use in a Euro-American culture). Blacks in the Caribbean, Britain, Canada and sub-Saharan Africa as well as in the United States have low IQ scores relative to whites. For violent crime, analyses of INTERPOL data from the 1980s and 1990s show the same international distribution that occurs within the United States (that is, Asians least, Europeans in the middle, and Africans most). A similar racial gradient is found both within the U.S. and globally for measures of sexual activity and frequencies of sexually transmitted diseases such as AIDS (based on World Health Organization data). " Proffesor J Phillipe Rushton, University of Western Ontario SIapshot
Nature or nurture?

Nature certainly has an influence on nurture.

How so?

It could easily be argued that the asians come highest because of the strong work ethic ingrained in most of the far eastern countries. Likewise, prettymuch all over the world the black population has been severely economically disadvantaged up until 50 years ago, which probably doesn't help matters.

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[QUOTE="-R3Vo"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="SIapshot"]"The mean pattern of educational and economic achievement within multi-racial countries such as Canada and the United States has increasingly been found to prove valid internationally. For example, it is not often recognized, perhaps because it contradicts the politically correct theories that intelligence is purely a matter of socio-economic conditions, that Asian-Americans and Asians in Asia often outscore white Americans and white Europeans on IQ tests and on tests of educational achievement (even though the tests were largely developed by Europeans and white Americans for use in a Euro-American culture). Blacks in the Caribbean, Britain, Canada and sub-Saharan Africa as well as in the United States have low IQ scores relative to whites. For violent crime, analyses of INTERPOL data from the 1980s and 1990s show the same international distribution that occurs within the United States (that is, Asians least, Europeans in the middle, and Africans most). A similar racial gradient is found both within the U.S. and globally for measures of sexual activity and frequencies of sexually transmitted diseases such as AIDS (based on World Health Organization data). " Proffesor J Phillipe Rushton, University of Western Ontario http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/late/jpr01.html Funky_Llama

Of course, the white racists' logic would lead them to come to the conclusion here that Asians are the superior race. But they ignore this because they want to be the superior race.

Do you know how many Asians there are in the world? Really blows statistics out of perportion. How does this make Mr. Rushton a white racist? If you also want to keep your race based logic the smartest people in the world have been white... Einstein, Tesla, etc... Those tests all come down to spam, it's like the zerg rush.

No it doesn't. The tests are done by averages. What do think they do,find the total IQ for the entire race? Christ.

You didn't understand what I was saying, and I'm not Christ.

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[QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="SIapshot"]"The mean pattern of educational and economic achievement within multi-racial countries such as Canada and the United States has increasingly been found to prove valid internationally. For example, it is not often recognized, perhaps because it contradicts the politically correct theories that intelligence is purely a matter of socio-economic conditions, that Asian-Americans and Asians in Asia often outscore white Americans and white Europeans on IQ tests and on tests of educational achievement (even though the tests were largely developed by Europeans and white Americans for use in a Euro-American culture). Blacks in the Caribbean, Britain, Canada and sub-Saharan Africa as well as in the United States have low IQ scores relative to whites. For violent crime, analyses of INTERPOL data from the 1980s and 1990s show the same international distribution that occurs within the United States (that is, Asians least, Europeans in the middle, and Africans most). A similar racial gradient is found both within the U.S. and globally for measures of sexual activity and frequencies of sexually transmitted diseases such as AIDS (based on World Health Organization data). " Proffesor J Phillipe Rushton, University of Western Ontario Mr_sprinkles

Nature or nurture?

Nature certainly has an influence on nurture.

How so?

It could easily be argued that the asians come highest because of the strong work ethic ingrained in most of the far eastern countries. Likewise, prettymuch all over the world the black population has been severely economically disadvantaged up until 50 years ago, which probably doesn't help matters.

Which enforces my point. If you click (or copy/paste) the link I gave you, Professor Rushton explains the biological differences between the races. Do you really think that the entire world's black population has been severely disadvantaged because of the actions of other races?
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White power! Wait does that make me a racist? But black people do it... Wtf I'm so confused.-R3Vo
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White people in the USA have to deal with too much. We've gone from our own sports leagues, to being told a white team is nearly unacceptable. We've gone from white businesses being the norm to being told a white business is nearly unacceptable. We've been forced to accept people from every nation in the world and we've been told to respect their rights and cultures even at the expense of our own. All due respect to "black plight", but we have many problems too.
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[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]

[QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="SIapshot"]"The mean pattern of educational and economic achievement within multi-racial countries such as Canada and the United States has increasingly been found to prove valid internationally. For example, it is not often recognized, perhaps because it contradicts the politically correct theories that intelligence is purely a matter of socio-economic conditions, that Asian-Americans and Asians in Asia often outscore white Americans and white Europeans on IQ tests and on tests of educational achievement (even though the tests were largely developed by Europeans and white Americans for use in a Euro-American culture). Blacks in the Caribbean, Britain, Canada and sub-Saharan Africa as well as in the United States have low IQ scores relative to whites. For violent crime, analyses of INTERPOL data from the 1980s and 1990s show the same international distribution that occurs within the United States (that is, Asians least, Europeans in the middle, and Africans most). A similar racial gradient is found both within the U.S. and globally for measures of sexual activity and frequencies of sexually transmitted diseases such as AIDS (based on World Health Organization data). " Proffesor J Phillipe Rushton, University of Western Ontario SIapshot

Nature or nurture?

Nature certainly has an influence on nurture.

How so?

It could easily be argued that the asians come highest because of the strong work ethic ingrained in most of the far eastern countries. Likewise, prettymuch all over the world the black population has been severely economically disadvantaged up until 50 years ago, which probably doesn't help matters.

Which enforces my point. If you click (or copy/paste) the link I gave you, Professor Rushton explains the biological differences between the races. Do you really think that the entire world's black population has been severely disadvantaged because of the actions of other races?

Not entirely, there are many factors. Obviously theres the whole slavery business, and segregation, and economic exploitation. But even before that they couldn't develop as a culture in Africa at quite the rate that the rest of the world did because Africa is not exactly the most fertile continent for agriculture.
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[QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]

[QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="SIapshot"]"The mean pattern of educational and economic achievement within multi-racial countries such as Canada and the United States has increasingly been found to prove valid internationally. For example, it is not often recognized, perhaps because it contradicts the politically correct theories that intelligence is purely a matter of socio-economic conditions, that Asian-Americans and Asians in Asia often outscore white Americans and white Europeans on IQ tests and on tests of educational achievement (even though the tests were largely developed by Europeans and white Americans for use in a Euro-American culture). Blacks in the Caribbean, Britain, Canada and sub-Saharan Africa as well as in the United States have low IQ scores relative to whites. For violent crime, analyses of INTERPOL data from the 1980s and 1990s show the same international distribution that occurs within the United States (that is, Asians least, Europeans in the middle, and Africans most). A similar racial gradient is found both within the U.S. and globally for measures of sexual activity and frequencies of sexually transmitted diseases such as AIDS (based on World Health Organization data). " Proffesor J Phillipe Rushton, University of Western Ontario Mr_sprinkles

Nature or nurture?

Nature certainly has an influence on nurture.

How so?

It could easily be argued that the asians come highest because of the strong work ethic ingrained in most of the far eastern countries. Likewise, prettymuch all over the world the black population has been severely economically disadvantaged up until 50 years ago, which probably doesn't help matters.

Which enforces my point. If you click (or copy/paste) the link I gave you, Professor Rushton explains the biological differences between the races. Do you really think that the entire world's black population has been severely disadvantaged because of the actions of other races?

Not entirely, there are many factors. Obviously theres the whole slavery business, and segregation, and economic exploitation. But even before that they couldn't develop as a culture in Africa at quite the rate that the rest of the world did because Africa is not exactly the most fertile continent for agriculture.

Neither is Japan. But Africa is very rich in natural resources, which the natives could never figure out how to exploit to their advantage (except by selling captured tribal enemies into slavery), and there are many fertile areas of africa that never made it out of the stone age. Perhaps if they had learned how to navigate the oceans and taken advantage of strategic resources they would've developed alongside other races.
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I'm proud to be human!
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Which enforces my point. If you click (or copy/paste) the link I gave you, Professor Rushton explains the biological differences between the races. Do you really think that the entire world's black population has been severely disadvantaged because of the actions of other races?SIapshot

Uh yes. Colonialism...

imo these bioglogical differences are negligible in determining the potentail of an entire race. There are far too many more influential factors that affect the course of a persons life and shape their character. Besides there are no pure races. Everyone has a different gentic make up comprised of many different ethnicites or races or what have you.

It seems to me that people who choose to endevaour to prove that there is a superior race, physically, mentally etc., have shady motives. We are all genetic shades of grey and so biologically race is a myth. It only takes on importance socially and culturally.

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I'm proud to be human!Assassinslay
That's like, the 50th time somebody posted that in this thread.
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Neither is Japan. But Africa is very rich in natural resources, which the natives could never figure out how to exploit to their advantage (except by selling captured tribal enemies into slavery), and there are many fertile areas of africa that never made it out of the stone age. Perhaps if they had learned how to navigate the oceans and taken advantage of strategic resources they would've developed alongside other races.SIapshot

Ah right so African cultures have to be measured on the scale of European civilisation...

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Neither is Japan. But Africa is very rich in natural resources, which the natives could never figure out how to exploit to their advantage (except by selling captured tribal enemies into slavery), and there are many fertile areas of africa that never made it out of the stone age. Perhaps if they had learned how to navigate the oceans and taken advantage of strategic resources they would've developed alongside other races.SIapshot

Which fertile areas are those?

and natural resources? no civilization on earth was mining before it could farm.

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The only reason its racist is because of the KKK. What if there were a black equivelant to that? Would black power be racist?

dracula_16

Absolutely. The KKK has nothing to do with saying "power" after your race. There plenty of racists who are not in the KKK or Black Panthers.

Wait, there is a black KKK? Then I declare hypocrisy, especially if they haven't been deemed a terrorist organization (KKK was in 1871).

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[QUOTE="SIapshot"]Which enforces my point. If you click (or copy/paste) the link I gave you, Professor Rushton explains the biological differences between the races. Do you really think that the entire world's black population has been severely disadvantaged because of the actions of other races?bradleybhoy

Uh yes. Colonialism...

imo these bioglogical differences are negligible in determining the potentail of an entire race. There are far too many more influential factors that affect the course of a persons life and shape their character. Besides there are no pure races. Everyone has a different gentic make up comprised of many different ethnicites or races or what have you.

It seems to me that people who choose to endevaour to prove that there is a superior race, physically, mentally etc., have shady motives. We are all genetic shades of grey and so biologically race is a myth. It only takes on importance socially and culturally.

How very intelligent and complete of you to make such broad statements with absolutely no scientific data to support your claim. Prove that biologically, race is a myth. "Deconstructing the concept of race not only conflicts with people's tendency to classify and build family histories according to common descent but also ignores the work of biologists studying non-human species. Ever since 1758, when the Swedish naturalist Carolus Linnaeus created the classification system still used in biology today, most zoologists have recognized at least the four human subdivisions Linnaeus delineated: Asians, American Indians, Europeans, and Africans. (Technically, some would group the first two Linnaean subdivisions together, thus yielding three major races, often termed, mongoloids, caucasoids, and negroids.)" -J Phillipe Rushton http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/late/jpr01.html
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And for the record, although japan is now a heavily industrialised nation, they had been farming for many centuries. It was plenty fertile compared to most of africa.
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Neither is Japan. But Africa is very rich in natural resources, which the natives could never figure out how to exploit to their advantage (except by selling captured tribal enemies into slavery), and there are many fertile areas of africa that never made it out of the stone age. Perhaps if they had learned how to navigate the oceans and taken advantage of strategic resources they would've developed alongside other races.Mr_sprinkles

Which fertile areas are those?

and natural resources? no civilization on earth was mining before it could farm.

There are fertile areas in sub-saharan africa, and you're absolutely right in your timeline of the advancement of a civilization, they had to learn how to farm before they could mine, but I don't see how that applies to my statement.
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And for the record, although japan is now a heavily industrialised nation, they had been farming for many centuries. It was plenty fertile compared to most of africa.Mr_sprinkles

Most of Africa?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Africa_satellite_orthographic.jpg

Not really...sub-Saharan afriqa was and still is very fertile.

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[QUOTE="SIapshot"]Which enforces my point. If you click (or copy/paste) the link I gave you, Professor Rushton explains the biological differences between the races. Do you really think that the entire world's black population has been severely disadvantaged because of the actions of other races?SIapshot

Uh yes. Colonialism...

imo these bioglogical differences are negligible in determining the potentail of an entire race. There are far too many more influential factors that affect the course of a persons life and shape their character. Besides there are no pure races. Everyone has a different gentic make up comprised of many different ethnicites or races or what have you.

It seems to me that people who choose to endevaour to prove that there is a superior race, physically, mentally etc., have shady motives. We are all genetic shades of grey and so biologically race is a myth. It only takes on importance socially and culturally.

How very intelligent and complete of you to make such broad statements with absolutely no scientific data to support your claim. Prove that biologically, race is a myth. "Deconstructing the concept of race not only conflicts with people's tendency to classify and build family histories according to common descent but also ignores the work of biologists studying non-human species. Ever since 1758, when the Swedish naturalist Carolus Linnaeus created the classification system still used in biology today, most zoologists have recognized at least the four human subdivisions Linnaeus delineated: Asians, American Indians, Europeans, and Africans. (Technically, some would group the first two Linnaean subdivisions together, thus yielding three major races, often termed, mongoloids, caucasoids, and negroids.)" -J Phillipe Rushton http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/late/jpr01.html

Wow, I love your source. Why don't you one that isn't from the same reasearcher trying to prove that there are inherent biological inequalities between "the races".

Oh I have one proving that biologically race is a myth, it's from The American Anthropological Association.

http://www.aaanet.org/stmts/racepp.htm

"indeed, physical variations in the human species have no meaning except the social ones that humans put on them."

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[QUOTE="Assassinslay"]I'm proud to be human!SIapshot
That's like, the 50th time somebody posted that in this thread.

ah i was aiming for 51
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And for the record, although japan is now a heavily industrialised nation, they had been farming for many centuries. It was plenty fertile compared to most of africa.Mr_sprinkles
Negative. The Japanese used steppe farming and irrigation in order to turn otherwise infertile mountainside into fertile farmland. Exactly the kinds of ingenuity that were missing from african natives.
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#327 DeeJayInphinity
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I don't have pride in something as meaningless as skin color or nationality.
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#328 Mr_sprinkles
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[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="SIapshot"]

Neither is Japan. But Africa is very rich in natural resources, which the natives could never figure out how to exploit to their advantage (except by selling captured tribal enemies into slavery), and there are many fertile areas of africa that never made it out of the stone age. Perhaps if they had learned how to navigate the oceans and taken advantage of strategic resources they would've developed alongside other races.SIapshot

Which fertile areas are those?

and natural resources? no civilization on earth was mining before it could farm.

There are fertile areas in sub-saharan africa, and you're absolutely right in your timeline of the advancement of a civilization, they had to learn how to farm before they could mine, but I don't see how that applies to my statement.

It applies to your statement because those "natural resources" consist largely of rare woods, precious stones, metals, ores, and oil. Without farming, those natural resources you speak of couldn't do them much good. And yes, there are fertile areas in sub saharan africa, but they are few and far between. It's mostly either dense jungle or dry savanah, neither of which are particularly good for growing stuff.

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#329 swizz-the-gamer
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[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]

[QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="SIapshot"]"The mean pattern of educational and economic achievement within multi-racial countries such as Canada and the United States has increasingly been found to prove valid internationally. For example, it is not often recognized, perhaps because it contradicts the politically correct theories that intelligence is purely a matter of socio-economic conditions, that Asian-Americans and Asians in Asia often outscore white Americans and white Europeans on IQ tests and on tests of educational achievement (even though the tests were largely developed by Europeans and white Americans for use in a Euro-American culture). Blacks in the Caribbean, Britain, Canada and sub-Saharan Africa as well as in the United States have low IQ scores relative to whites. For violent crime, analyses of INTERPOL data from the 1980s and 1990s show the same international distribution that occurs within the United States (that is, Asians least, Europeans in the middle, and Africans most). A similar racial gradient is found both within the U.S. and globally for measures of sexual activity and frequencies of sexually transmitted diseases such as AIDS (based on World Health Organization data). " Proffesor J Phillipe Rushton, University of Western Ontario SIapshot

Nature or nurture?

Nature certainly has an influence on nurture.

How so?

It could easily be argued that the asians come highest because of the strong work ethic ingrained in most of the far eastern countries. Likewise, prettymuch all over the world the black population has been severely economically disadvantaged up until 50 years ago, which probably doesn't help matters.

Which enforces my point. If you click (or copy/paste) the link I gave you, Professor Rushton explains the biological differences between the races. Do you really think that the entire world's black population has been severely disadvantaged because of the actions of other races?

Wow... Do you really think Blacks havent been severly disadvantaged by other races?
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#330 Conjuration
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This reminds me of a story I was told by one of my friends who attends university.
The school has social groups for Phillipinos, Asians, Africans, Latinos you name it. But the one social group the university would not allow was a caucasian club.
I just couldn't believe it. The university basically called the organisers a bunch of racists and sent them on their merry way.
Just disgusting.

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Wow, I think this article from The American Anthropological Society has pretty much blown your argument out of the water slapshot.

"Race" thus evolved as a worldview, a body of prejudgments that distorts our ideas about human differences and group behavior. Racial beliefs constitute myths about the diversity in the human species and about the abilities and behavior of people homogenized into "racial" categories. The myths fused behavior and physical features together in the public mind, impeding our comprehension of both biological variations and cultural behavior, implying that both are genetically determined. Racial myths bear no relationship to the reality of human capabilities or behavior. Scientists today find that reliance on such folk beliefs about human differences in research has led to countless errors."

http://www.aaanet.org/stmts/racepp.htm

Read the whole thing and then get back to me.

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#332 swizz-the-gamer
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This reminds me of a story I was told by one of my friends who attends university.
The school has social groups for Phillipinos, Asians, Africans, Latinos you name it. But the one social group the university would not allow was a caucasian club.
I just couldn't believe it. The university basically called the organisers a bunch of racists and sent them on their merry way.
Just disgusting.

Conjuration
Perhaps they wanted to be around people who spoke the same language?
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#333 SIapshot
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[QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="bradleybhoy"]

[QUOTE="SIapshot"]Which enforces my point. If you click (or copy/paste) the link I gave you, Professor Rushton explains the biological differences between the races. Do you really think that the entire world's black population has been severely disadvantaged because of the actions of other races?bradleybhoy

Uh yes. Colonialism...

imo these bioglogical differences are negligible in determining the potentail of an entire race. There are far too many more influential factors that affect the course of a persons life and shape their character. Besides there are no pure races. Everyone has a different gentic make up comprised of many different ethnicites or races or what have you.

It seems to me that people who choose to endevaour to prove that there is a superior race, physically, mentally etc., have shady motives. We are all genetic shades of grey and so biologically race is a myth. It only takes on importance socially and culturally.

How very intelligent and complete of you to make such broad statements with absolutely no scientific data to support your claim. Prove that biologically, race is a myth. "Deconstructing the concept of race not only conflicts with people's tendency to classify and build family histories according to common descent but also ignores the work of biologists studying non-human species. Ever since 1758, when the Swedish naturalist Carolus Linnaeus created the classification system still used in biology today, most zoologists have recognized at least the four human subdivisions Linnaeus delineated: Asians, American Indians, Europeans, and Africans. (Technically, some would group the first two Linnaean subdivisions together, thus yielding three major races, often termed, mongoloids, caucasoids, and negroids.)" -J Phillipe Rushton http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/late/jpr01.html

Wow, I love your source. Why don't you one that isn't from the same reasearcher trying to prove that there are inherent biological inequalities between "the races".

Oh I have one proving that biologically race is a myth, it's from The American Anthropological Association.

http://www.aaanet.org/stmts/racepp.htm

"indeed, physical variations in the human species have no meaning except the social ones that humans put on them."

That source is 10 years old, talking about "only 6% of genetic makeup". Here's a more updated source for you.

link "The discovery has astonished scientists studying the human genome - the genetic recipe of man. Until now it was believed the variation between people was due largely to differences in the sequences of the individual "letters" of the genome.

It now appears much of the variation is explained instead by people having multiple copies of some key genes that make up the human genome."

there were enough racial differences to assign every person bar one to their correct ethnic origin.

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#334 sentencedogu
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why would some be proud of being white? I can understand someone being proud of being Irih, French Arab or else but why WHITE?

Sounds funny and pointless to me......thats not even nationalism. Why would you be proud of being a member of a skin color with 238765283746578325 members...nothing unique in skin color simply.

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#335 kurama2002
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The black and white education gap is closing http://www.reason.com/news/show/116991.html

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#337 kurama2002
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[QUOTE="kurama2002"]

The black and white education gap is closing http://www.reason.com/news/show/116991.html

SIapshot

...in direct relation to interracial breeding.

lol you are ridiculous

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That source is 10 years old, talking about "only 6% of genetic makeup". Here's a more updated source for you.

link "The discovery has astonished scientists studying the human genome - the genetic recipe of man. Until now it was believed the variation between people was due largely to differences in the sequences of the individual "letters" of the genome.

It now appears much of the variation is explained instead by people having multiple copies of some key genes that make up the human genome."

there were enough racial differences to assign every person bar one to their correct ethnic origin.

SIapshot

Ah touche. I'll have to get more up-to date with my sources.

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#339 WSGRandomPerson
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Um,Ok? I don't have pride towards any race..
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#341 Gavin2232
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Why are you proud of the colour of your skin?

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#342 yoyo462001
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im proud to be black, doesnt make me racist also being proud to be white is totally alrite and not racist in my view.
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#343 swizz-the-gamer
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im proud to be black, doesnt make me racist also being proud to be white is totally alrite and not racist in my view.yoyo462001
Being black isn't an accomplishment or a skill. It's nothing. Race is nothing. Be proud of your achievements not of your race.
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#344 Food_Nipple
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I'm proud to not be proud of being white
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I'm not proud to be white...because I don't take pride in things that aren't my own accomplishemtns (and even then, its quite rare). It was none of my doing that I'm white.

But I do like being white, and if I could choose what race to be, I'd still remain white.

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[QUOTE="bobaban"]

[QUOTE="-Keel-_basic"]I don't believe my heritage or skin tone is any sort of accomplishment, nor should it be a source of pride. My ancestor's have had little to no effect on my core being, or any of my personal motivations. That said, ancestry can be interesting to learn about.SIapshot

Yes can all those who have this "pride" explain why you are proud of your race?

The accomplishments of White people are too extensive to list, but it can certainly be said that White people civilized the western world. That in itself is reason enough to have pride in our race, and before any of you give a sarcastic response about how many natives we killed, save your energy because we already know. And we still brought about massive technological revolutions matched only by eastern Asians.

Oh yea, here's a list of invention myths for anybody who's interested in learning the truth.
http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions/

Accomplishments have no colour.

please don't take pride in accomplishments YOU had nothing to do with ...

this is again simular to nationalism, another pathetic attempt to contain a crowd so that you can belong to it

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#347 DeeJayInphinity
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Accomplishments have no color.

please don't take pride in accomplishments YOU had nothing to do with ...

this is again simular to nationalism, another pathetic attempt to contain a crowd so that you can belong to it

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What?? No way man! As a person with Spanish ancestry, I helped colonize the Americas, and I destroyed an entire civilization doing so. I also took part in the Spanish inquisition. And as a person with African ancestry, I invented the wheel, and discovered how fire was created. I've done a lot of things in my short life.
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#348 michael098
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*points* You racist!Cube_of_MooN

How is that a raciest comment?

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#349 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="yoyo462001"]im proud to be black, doesnt make me racist also being proud to be white is totally alrite and not racist in my view.swizz-the-gamer
Being black isn't an accomplishment or a skill. It's nothing. Race is nothing. Be proud of your achievements not of your race.

Well said.

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#350 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="Cube_of_MooN"]*points* You racist!michael098

How is that a raciest comment?

Miss irony much?