Im sorry but Obama will just utterly DESTROY McCain in the debate...

Regan was mediocre as a leader, so was Carter. The reason the graph rises is the Regan equation

Lower taxes + More spending = less debt????

alexmurray

[QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]Bill Clinton FTW :Dfamicommander

lol..

Ronald Regan FTW!

Bill clinton>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Regan

Did you see the graph, sure Regan's strengh was forgien policy but his economic plan failed

Obama had an strong speech. He definitely destroyed McCaine in that category.JeM760soCAL

You don't make speeches at debates? you answer questions and you can't use a teleprompter.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]Bill Clinton FTW :Dalexmurray

lol..

Ronald Regan FTW!

Bill clinton>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Regan

Correction: Slick Willy FTL. He reaped the benefits of Reaganomics.

Yea he reaped 3 extra trillion dollars in debt

You can thank good ol Jimmy Carter for that, who reminds me of one of the canidates...

sorry but thats not going to work :P

Any guy who thinks the debt is Reagan's fault is foolish. He HAD to get money to fix everything because of how badly Ob... erm Carter did ecomomically, his foreign policy, hell anything he did. Reagan fixed it. With a price, yes. But he fixed it.

Regan was mediocre as a leader, so was Carter. The reason the graph rises is the Regan equation

Lower taxes + More spending = less debt????

1. Spell his name right.

2. You obviously know NOTHING about politics if you think Reagan was merely a mediocre leader. That's just straight blasphemy.

3. More Taxes = More Gov't spending = More in debt. ;)

[QUOTE="butteman12"]and Biden will destroy palin in their debate. that is all.H8sMikeMoore

i feel bad if you plan on voting for either one of them

I respect McCain for what hes done. I dont think he should be president

Obama is just a socialist underneath it all. That alone makes him unworthy of a vote

I still don't understand this :roll: he supports one socialist program, National Health care, something that the rest of the west already has.. And some how that makes him a complete socialist? Is there some other socialists points we are missing?

[QUOTE="alexmurray"]

Regan was mediocre as a leader, so was Carter. The reason the graph rises is the Regan equation

Lower taxes + More spending = less debt????

famicommander

Yea he should have spend money against that, but he should have raised taxes

[QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]Bill Clinton FTW :Dbattlefront23

lol..

Ronald Regan FTW!

Bill clinton>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Regan

Correction: Slick Willy FTL. He reaped the benefits of Reaganomics.

Yea he reaped 3 extra trillion dollars in debt

You can thank good ol Jimmy Carter for that, who reminds me of one of the canidates...

sorry but thats not going to work :P

Any guy who thinks the debt is Reagan's fault is foolish. He HAD to get money to fix everything because of how badly Ob... erm Carter did ecomomically, his foreign policy, hell anything he did. Reagan fixed it. With a price, yes. But he fixed it.

Regan was mediocre as a leader, so was Carter. The reason the graph rises is the Regan equation

Lower taxes + More spending = less debt????

1. Spell his name right.

2. You obviously know NOTHING about politics if you think Reagan was merely a mediocre leader. That's just straight blasphemy.

3. More Taxes = More Gov't spending = More in debt. ;)

Cough Iraq war costs 10 billion a month Cough

[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]Bill Clinton FTW :Dalexmurray

lol..

Ronald Regan FTW!

Bill clinton>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Regan

Did you see the graph, sure Regan's strengh was forgien policy but his economic plan failed

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="butteman12"]and Biden will destroy palin in their debate. that is all.sSubZerOo

i feel bad if you plan on voting for either one of them

I respect McCain for what hes done. I dont think he should be president

Obama is just a socialist underneath it all. That alone makes him unworthy of a vote

I still don't understand this :roll: he supports one socialist program, National Health care, something that the rest of the west already has.. And some how that makes him a complete socialist? Is there some other socialists points we are missing?

i didnt say everything he outright speaks about is socialist. however i dont want to be like the rest of the western world.

1. Spell his name right.

2. You obviously know NOTHING about politics if you think Reagan was merely a mediocre leader. That's just straight blasphemy.

Thats completely debatable.. Stop making it sound like there is no logical chance why he can not be seen as a mediocre leader.. There are many vices with him, he didn't do anything spectacular.. And did some down right awful things.. Such as arming both Iraq and Iran basically.. Many economists blame alot of economy problems due to Reagans policy making.. He also did things like remove the equal air time, where each canidate had equal air time for commercials, turning into a money war.. This isn't to say he was a poor leader, but quit acting like its blasphemy to some how disagree with his leadership.

3. More Taxes = More Gov't spending = More in debt. ;)

This idea is as flawed as the idea your trying to argue with.

battlefront23

Obama can't alk without a tele-prompter...(which is why he brought it back on the campaign trail after trying to go without one......Debates are a funny creature.....it's not about speaking the best....it's about expressing the better ideas in a way that the viewer can grasp it..........Omni-Slash

Obama almost never uses a tele-prompter. Which is a far cry from McCain, who finds himself lost and confused without his speechwriters holding his hand through every major event.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

1. Spell his name right.

2. You obviously know NOTHING about politics if you think Reagan was merely a mediocre leader. That's just straight blasphemy.

Thats completely debatable.. Stop making it sound like there is no logical chance why he can not be seen as a mediocre leader.. There are many vices with him, he didn't do anything spectacular.. And did some down right awful things.. Such as arming both Iraq and Iran basically.. Many economists blame alot of economy problems due to Reagans policy making.. He also did things like remove the equal air time, where each canidate had equal air time for commercials, turning into a money war.. This isn't to say he was a poor leader, but quit acting like its blasphemy to some how disagree with his leadership.

We didn't go to war with Russia thanks to him. That alone makes him more than just a mediocre president.

3. More Taxes = More Gov't spending = More in debt. ;)

This idea is as flawed as the idea your trying to argue with.

When has the gov't ever been good about using and conserving money?

sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

Regan was mediocre as a leader, so was Carter. The reason the graph rises is the Regan equation

Lower taxes + More spending = less debt????

alexmurray

Yea he should have spend money against that, but he should have raised taxes

looking at the chart that was posted, It shows every president since roosevelt increased the National Debt, So obviously it isn't a proof of economic success.. And if he raised taxes we probably still would have been in debt. We will still be in debt in Nov. and we will still be in debt. 10 years from now, I'm sure of that.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="butteman12"]and Biden will destroy palin in their debate. that is all.H8sMikeMoore

i feel bad if you plan on voting for either one of them

I respect McCain for what hes done. I dont think he should be president

Obama is just a socialist underneath it all. That alone makes him unworthy of a vote

I still don't understand this :roll: he supports one socialist program, National Health care, something that the rest of the west already has.. And some how that makes him a complete socialist? Is there some other socialists points we are missing?

i didnt say everything he outright speaks about is socialist. however i dont want to be like the rest of the western world.

You just said it your self that "Obama is just a socialist underneath it all". Where is the proof? You have shown nothing but the fact he happens to support a socialist program that you disagree with.. Big whoop, the United States has tons of socialist polices and programs enacted already.. This isn't to say Obama is the best thing sense slice bread, but stop calling him a socialist it gets old, and it clearly shows how partisan you are..

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="butteman12"]and Biden will destroy palin in their debate. that is all.sSubZerOo

i feel bad if you plan on voting for either one of them

I respect McCain for what hes done. I dont think he should be president

Obama is just a socialist underneath it all. That alone makes him unworthy of a vote

I still don't understand this :roll: he supports one socialist program, National Health care, something that the rest of the west already has.. And some how that makes him a complete socialist? Is there some other socialists points we are missing?

i didnt say everything he outright speaks about is socialist. however i dont want to be like the rest of the western world.

You just said it your self that "Obama is just a socialist underneath it all". Where is the proof? You have shown nothing but the fact he happens to support a socialist program that you disagree with.. Big whoop, the United States has tons of socialist polices and programs enacted already.. This isn't to say Obama is the best thing sense slice bread, but stop calling him a socialist it gets old, and it clearly shows how partisan you are..

Well for one, he is trying to introduce tons of Gov't programs, which is the start of socialism, he's increasing the size of Gov't something that for one is a bad thing, if anything it should be smaller.

[QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

Regan was mediocre as a leader, so was Carter. The reason the graph rises is the Regan equation

Lower taxes + More spending = less debt????

ferrari2001

Yea he should have spend money against that, but he should have raised taxes

looking at the chart that was posted, It shows every president since roosevelt increased the National Debt, So obviously it isn't a proof of economic success.. And if he raised taxes we probably still would have been in debt. We will still be in debt in Nov. and we will still be in debt. 10 years from now, I'm sure of that.

Yes they have but Regan in one term spent more than all of them combined, the debt goes up anyway but it went up drastically

[QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

Regan was mediocre as a leader, so was Carter. The reason the graph rises is the Regan equation

Lower taxes + More spending = less debt????

ferrari2001

Yea he should have spend money against that, but he should have raised taxes

looking at the chart that was posted, It shows every president since roosevelt increased the National Debt, So obviously it isn't a proof of economic success.. And if he raised taxes we probably still would have been in debt. We will still be in debt in Nov. and we will still be in debt. 10 years from now, I'm sure of that.

Most democratic presidents went aways to balance the budget before the next republican president messed it up again. Clinton started going into a downward shift before Bush came in.

[QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

Regan was mediocre as a leader, so was Carter. The reason the graph rises is the Regan equation

Lower taxes + More spending = less debt????

Guiltfeeder566

Yea he should have spend money against that, but he should have raised taxes

looking at the chart that was posted, It shows every president since roosevelt increased the National Debt, So obviously it isn't a proof of economic success.. And if he raised taxes we probably still would have been in debt. We will still be in debt in Nov. and we will still be in debt. 10 years from now, I'm sure of that.

Most democratic presidents went aways to balance the budget before the next republican president messed it up again. Clinton started going into a downward shift before Bush came in.

He's the only 1 but he only started lowering it very slightly, but also ended many programs, especially military programs which is what gave him so much money.

[QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Correction: McCain will wipe the floor with Uh-bama. And I wouldn't count out Palin so quickly.

battlefront23

Palin will fail badly, and obama saying Uh wont lose him the debate :roll:

Actually saying uh, during a debate greatly decreases your performance, if you've ever seen your high school (or sorry middle School) Debate teams.. The person who says uhh, usually ends up losing the debate..

ha ha ha your funny, Im in college,

Those people that are being kicked out of their houses dont care about Uhms they care about who can help them the most,

that man is Barack Obama

People who vote for OBama are one of the following; lazy, ignorant, immoral, and/or naive. You can't really believe anything the guy says.

Yet your going to believe some douche bag who says that the fundamentals of our economy are strong?

[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

Regan was mediocre as a leader, so was Carter. The reason the graph rises is the Regan equation

Lower taxes + More spending = less debt????

alexmurray

Yea he should have spend money against that, but he should have raised taxes

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="butteman12"]and Biden will destroy palin in their debate. that is all.sSubZerOo

i feel bad if you plan on voting for either one of them

I respect McCain for what hes done. I dont think he should be president

Obama is just a socialist underneath it all. That alone makes him unworthy of a vote

I still don't understand this :roll: he supports one socialist program, National Health care, something that the rest of the west already has.. And some how that makes him a complete socialist? Is there some other socialists points we are missing?

i didnt say everything he outright speaks about is socialist. however i dont want to be like the rest of the western world.

You just said it your self that "Obama is just a socialist underneath it all". Where is the proof? You have shown nothing but the fact he happens to support a socialist program that you disagree with.. Big whoop, the United States has tons of socialist polices and programs enacted already.. This isn't to say Obama is the best thing sense slice bread, but stop calling him a socialist it gets old, and it clearly shows how partisan you are..

the fact that he does support even the slightest socialism is enough for me. i disagree with all.

what party am i a part of? i expect an answer.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

1. Spell his name right.

2. You obviously know NOTHING about politics if you think Reagan was merely a mediocre leader. That's just straight blasphemy.

Thats completely debatable.. Stop making it sound like there is no logical chance why he can not be seen as a mediocre leader.. There are many vices with him, he didn't do anything spectacular.. And did some down right awful things.. Such as arming both Iraq and Iran basically.. Many economists blame alot of economy problems due to Reagans policy making.. He also did things like remove the equal air time, where each canidate had equal air time for commercials, turning into a money war.. This isn't to say he was a poor leader, but quit acting like its blasphemy to some how disagree with his leadership.

We didn't go to war with Russia thanks to him. That alone makes him more than just a mediocre president.

3. More Taxes = More Gov't spending = More in debt. ;)

This idea is as flawed as the idea your trying to argue with.

When has the gov't ever been good at about saving money?

battlefront23

Your clearly misinformed, are you trying to tell me that one president that was at the backspin of it all, was responsible for ending the cold war? And the numerous presidents before that didn';t have nothing to do with it? Yeah ok :roll:, Reagan didn't have much to do with it either, Russia just collapsed on its own due to economic turmoil..

..... What your saying doesn't solve the problem with the increasing debt what so ever.. And the government increases taxes direclty due to need of it.. Not the other way around.. Our taxes are increasing because of the AIG being bailed out, not the other way around..

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="butteman12"]and Biden will destroy palin in their debate. that is all.Toriko42

i feel bad if you plan on voting for either one of them

I respect McCain for what hes done. I dont think he should be president

Obama is just a socialist underneath it all. That alone makes him unworthy of a vote

Where is there? Socialism is a failed practice that even Europeans are starting to reject, hence more right-wing leaders there.

Also McCain will MAUL Obama, why you ask? Because thats what he did in their first debate, McCain answered quick and clear while Obama stuttered and stalled. I am sure you can find their first debate, McCain won easy and will again. Obama can't win on the economy so expect him to smear McCain like he always does, compare him to Bush unfairly and avoid making any clear points.

Also Palin will send Biden packing, she is sweet and well spoken and likeable. She sticks to the issues while Biden is a loudmouth attack dog who will attack more than anything, Palin will own him easy. Obama/Biden need economic disaster and to throw bombs from safe places to win, once the debates start and they can't throw bombs and run all that lead will vanish. No more lies like Obama told Hispanic voters.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Correction: McCain will wipe the floor with Uh-bama. And I wouldn't count out Palin so quickly.

Palax

Palin will fail badly, and obama saying Uh wont lose him the debate :roll:

Actually saying uh, during a debate greatly decreases your performance, if you've ever seen your high school (or sorry middle School) Debate teams.. The person who says uhh, usually ends up losing the debate..

ha ha ha your funny, Im in college,

Those people that are being kicked out of their houses dont care about Uhms they care about who can help them the most,

that man is Barack Obama

People who vote for OBama are one of the following; lazy, ignorant, immoral, and/or naive. You can't really believe anything the guy says.

Yet your going to believe some douche bag who says that the fundamentals of our economy are strong?

The fundamentals of our economy are strong, in fact we have the most powerful economy in the world.. But at the moment our economy is lower than usual and is bad for the American people.

Most democratic presidents went aways to balance the budget before the next republican president messed it up again. Clinton started going into a downward shift before Bush came in.

Guiltfeeder566

[QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

Regan was mediocre as a leader, so was Carter. The reason the graph rises is the Regan equation

Lower taxes + More spending = less debt????

famicommander

Yea he should have spend money against that, but he should have raised taxes

history disagrees

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Correction: McCain will wipe the floor with Uh-bama. And I wouldn't count out Palin so quickly.

Palax

Palin will fail badly, and obama saying Uh wont lose him the debate :roll:

Actually saying uh, during a debate greatly decreases your performance, if you've ever seen your high school (or sorry middle School) Debate teams.. The person who says uhh, usually ends up losing the debate..

ha ha ha your funny, Im in college,

Those people that are being kicked out of their houses dont care about Uhms they care about who can help them the most,

that man is Barack Obama

People who vote for OBama are one of the following; lazy, ignorant, immoral, and/or naive. You can't really believe anything the guy says.

Yet your going to believe some douche bag who says that the fundamentals of our economy are strong?

My definition of fundamentals and yours may differ. I'm not saying McCain is even a good candidate but he sure is better than Obama.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="butteman12"]and Biden will destroy palin in their debate. that is all.H8sMikeMoore

i feel bad if you plan on voting for either one of them

I respect McCain for what hes done. I dont think he should be president

Obama is just a socialist underneath it all. That alone makes him unworthy of a vote

I still don't understand this :roll: he supports one socialist program, National Health care, something that the rest of the west already has.. And some how that makes him a complete socialist? Is there some other socialists points we are missing?

i didnt say everything he outright speaks about is socialist. however i dont want to be like the rest of the western world.

You just said it your self that "Obama is just a socialist underneath it all". Where is the proof? You have shown nothing but the fact he happens to support a socialist program that you disagree with.. Big whoop, the United States has tons of socialist polices and programs enacted already.. This isn't to say Obama is the best thing sense slice bread, but stop calling him a socialist it gets old, and it clearly shows how partisan you are..

the fact that he does support even the slightest socialism is enough for me. i disagree with all.

what party am i a part of? i expect an answer.

... Maybe you should read up of the working of our government.. Because you clearly don't realize we have numerous Socialist programs already in it.. I suppose you must be against the American government as a whole.. Afterall we have numeorus business laws and policies, socialistic education system, a tax system, wellfare, etc etc.. What your saying makes no sense inless you despise the entire american government and what it has been for years and years.

[QUOTE="Guiltfeeder566"]

Most democratic presidents went aways to balance the budget before the next republican president messed it up again. Clinton started going into a downward shift before Bush came in.

famicommander

He's talking about National Debt, it has nothing at all to do with being in a recession. The Gov't is much more important than the people.

[QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Correction: McCain will wipe the floor with Uh-bama. And I wouldn't count out Palin so quickly.

ferrari2001

Palin will fail badly, and obama saying Uh wont lose him the debate :roll:

Actually saying uh, during a debate greatly decreases your performance, if you've ever seen your high school (or sorry middle School) Debate teams.. The person who says uhh, usually ends up losing the debate..

ha ha ha your funny, Im in college,

Those people that are being kicked out of their houses dont care about Uhms they care about who can help them the most,

that man is Barack Obama

Sure but others will like what McCain is saying. The whole world isn't poor people.. Especially considering a majority of Obama's supporters are in college and poor. Most won't watch the Debate so who exactly is he talking to? And Youth are terrible at the polls so what's going to happen on voting day when they don't show up?

That would be a valid argument.... 4 years ago

People like Obama, alot more than Kerry

It's still a valid argument, 90% of teens obama supports support him blindly, don't argue against it cause it's true.. and throughout history youth have been terrible at the polls I don't see any difference here.

Did you stop to think that maybe people support Obama simply because they don't support McCain, and btw I can argue against this because you straight pulled that 90% statistic from your arse.

[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

Regan was mediocre as a leader, so was Carter. The reason the graph rises is the Regan equation

Lower taxes + More spending = less debt????

alexmurray

Yea he should have spend money against that, but he should have raised taxes

history disagrees

No it agrees.

[QUOTE="butteman12"]and Biden will destroy palin in their debate. that is all.H8sMikeMoore

i feel bad if you plan on voting for either one of them

I respect McCain for what hes done. I dont think he should be president

Obama is just a socialist underneath it all. That alone makes him unworthy of a vote

You do realize they are the only available people, right? I suppose you're just going to write in your favorite person?

[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

Regan was mediocre as a leader, so was Carter. The reason the graph rises is the Regan equation

Lower taxes + More spending = less debt????

alexmurray

Yea he should have spend money against that, but he should have raised taxes

history disagrees

Regan was mediocre as a leader, so was Carter. The reason the graph rises is the Regan equation

Lower taxes + More spending = less debt????

alexmurray

You do know that Obama is going to tale 2.5 to 3.3 trillion bucks away in revenue while driving spending higher than it is now right? His health care plan is $1 trillion in new spending alone. It's not a valid argument when both canidates cut taxes, but only McCain has clearly stood by less spending. It's like attacking either on immigration when both are the same on it.

[QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

Regan was mediocre as a leader, so was Carter. The reason the graph rises is the Regan equation

Lower taxes + More spending = less debt????

battlefront23

Yea he should have spend money against that, but he should have raised taxes

history disagrees

No it agrees.

Okay :roll:

its better, lower taxes for poorer people so they can spend more, Higher taxes on richer people, but not so high that they become poor and lose significant amounts of money

[QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Correction: McCain will wipe the floor with Uh-bama. And I wouldn't count out Palin so quickly.

Palax

Palin will fail badly, and obama saying Uh wont lose him the debate :roll:

Actually saying uh, during a debate greatly decreases your performance, if you've ever seen your high school (or sorry middle School) Debate teams.. The person who says uhh, usually ends up losing the debate..

ha ha ha your funny, Im in college,

Those people that are being kicked out of their houses dont care about Uhms they care about who can help them the most,

that man is Barack Obama

Sure but others will like what McCain is saying. The whole world isn't poor people.. Especially considering a majority of Obama's supporters are in college and poor. Most won't watch the Debate so who exactly is he talking to? And Youth are terrible at the polls so what's going to happen on voting day when they don't show up?

That would be a valid argument.... 4 years ago

People like Obama, alot more than Kerry

It's still a valid argument, 90% of teens obama supports support him blindly, don't argue against it cause it's true.. and throughout history youth have been terrible at the polls I don't see any difference here.

Did you stop to think that maybe people support Obama simply because they don't support McCain, and btw I can argue against this because you straight pulled that 90% statistic from your arse.

All the Youth I've talked to about why they support Obama couldn't give me clear answers at all. And a good speaker always came up.... And they may only support Obama because of the fact that they don't like McCain, but still doesn't change the fact, that youth prove very unreliable at the polls.

And yes I did make up that statistic, I'll admit that, it was overexaturated but you get my point. The fact that many unreliable voters support obama for really no reason.

[QUOTE="Palax"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Correction: McCain will wipe the floor with Uh-bama. And I wouldn't count out Palin so quickly.

ferrari2001

Palin will fail badly, and obama saying Uh wont lose him the debate :roll:

Actually saying uh, during a debate greatly decreases your performance, if you've ever seen your high school (or sorry middle School) Debate teams.. The person who says uhh, usually ends up losing the debate..

ha ha ha your funny, Im in college,

Those people that are being kicked out of their houses dont care about Uhms they care about who can help them the most,

that man is Barack Obama

Sure but others will like what McCain is saying. The whole world isn't poor people.. Especially considering a majority of Obama's supporters are in college and poor. Most won't watch the Debate so who exactly is he talking to? And Youth are terrible at the polls so what's going to happen on voting day when they don't show up?

That would be a valid argument.... 4 years ago

People like Obama, alot more than Kerry

It's still a valid argument, 90% of teens obama supports support him blindly, don't argue against it cause it's true.. and throughout history youth have been terrible at the polls I don't see any difference here.

Did you stop to think that maybe people support Obama simply because they don't support McCain, and btw I can argue against this because you straight pulled that 90% statistic from your arse.

All the Youth I've talked to about why they support Obama couldn't give me clear answers at all. And a good speaker always came up.... And they may only support Obama because of the fact that they don't like McCain, but still doesn't change the fact, that youth prove very unreliable at the polls.

And yes I did make up that statistic, I'll admit that, it was overexaturated but you get my point. The fact that many unreliable voters support obama for really no reason.

You clearly don't understand what a scientific poll is.. Or you would realize that your limited personal experience means jack when your talking about the country.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="butteman12"]and Biden will destroy palin in their debate. that is all.sSubZerOo

i feel bad if you plan on voting for either one of them

I respect McCain for what hes done. I dont think he should be president

Obama is just a socialist underneath it all. That alone makes him unworthy of a vote

I still don't understand this :roll: he supports one socialist program, National Health care, something that the rest of the west already has.. And some how that makes him a complete socialist? Is there some other socialists points we are missing?

i didnt say everything he outright speaks about is socialist. however i dont want to be like the rest of the western world.

You just said it your self that "Obama is just a socialist underneath it all". Where is the proof? You have shown nothing but the fact he happens to support a socialist program that you disagree with.. Big whoop, the United States has tons of socialist polices and programs enacted already.. This isn't to say Obama is the best thing sense slice bread, but stop calling him a socialist it gets old, and it clearly shows how partisan you are..

the fact that he does support even the slightest socialism is enough for me. i disagree with all.

what party am i a part of? i expect an answer.

... Maybe you should read up of the working of our government.. Because you clearly don't realize we have numerous Socialist programs already in it.. I suppose you must be against the American government as a whole.. Afterall we have numeorus business laws and policies, socialistic education system, a tax system, wellfare, etc etc.. What your saying makes no sense inless you despise the entire american government and what it has been for years and years.

our government is a complete and utter failure on almost every level. Yes im already aware we have them in it. Apparently youve never read any threads ive been apart of. if I were arguing on your side I would make a huge effort to not even mention the schooling system.

Of course I despise it.

What party am I apart of?

[QUOTE="Palax"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Correction: McCain will wipe the floor with Uh-bama. And I wouldn't count out Palin so quickly.

ferrari2001

Palin will fail badly, and obama saying Uh wont lose him the debate :roll:

Actually saying uh, during a debate greatly decreases your performance, if you've ever seen your high school (or sorry middle School) Debate teams.. The person who says uhh, usually ends up losing the debate..

ha ha ha your funny, Im in college,

Those people that are being kicked out of their houses dont care about Uhms they care about who can help them the most,

that man is Barack Obama

Sure but others will like what McCain is saying. The whole world isn't poor people.. Especially considering a majority of Obama's supporters are in college and poor. Most won't watch the Debate so who exactly is he talking to? And Youth are terrible at the polls so what's going to happen on voting day when they don't show up?

That would be a valid argument.... 4 years ago

People like Obama, alot more than Kerry

It's still a valid argument, 90% of teens obama supports support him blindly, don't argue against it cause it's true.. and throughout history youth have been terrible at the polls I don't see any difference here.

Did you stop to think that maybe people support Obama simply because they don't support McCain, and btw I can argue against this because you straight pulled that 90% statistic from your arse.

All the Youth I've talked to about why they support Obama couldn't give me clear answers at all. And a good speaker always came up.... And they may only support Obama because of the fact that they don't like McCain, but still doesn't change the fact, that youth prove very unreliable at the polls.

And yes I did make up that statistic, I'll admit that, it was overexaturated but you get my point. The fact that many unreliable voters support obama for really no reason.

You clearly don't understand what a scientific poll is.. Or you would realize that your limited personal experience means jack when your talking about the country.

[QUOTE="Palax"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Correction: McCain will wipe the floor with Uh-bama. And I wouldn't count out Palin so quickly.

battlefront23

Palin will fail badly, and obama saying Uh wont lose him the debate :roll:

Actually saying uh, during a debate greatly decreases your performance, if you've ever seen your high school (or sorry middle School) Debate teams.. The person who says uhh, usually ends up losing the debate..

ha ha ha your funny, Im in college,

Those people that are being kicked out of their houses dont care about Uhms they care about who can help them the most,

that man is Barack Obama

People who vote for OBama are one of the following; lazy, ignorant, immoral, and/or naive. You can't really believe anything the guy says.

Yet your going to believe some douche bag who says that the fundamentals of our economy are strong?

My definition of fundamentals and yours may differ. I'm not saying McCain is even a good canidate but he sure is better than Obama.

I'm not saying Obama is a good candidate...but he sure is a HELL of a lot better than McCain.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

Regan was mediocre as a leader, so was Carter. The reason the graph rises is the Regan equation

Lower taxes + More spending = less debt????

alexmurray

Yea he should have spend money against that, but he should have raised taxes

history disagrees

No it agrees.

Okay :roll:

its better, lower taxes for poorer people so they can spend more, Higher taxes on richer people, but not so high that they become poor and lose significant amounts of money

our change the system so it dosent need much taxation period so everyone can spend more

[QUOTE="Palax"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Correction: McCain will wipe the floor with Uh-bama. And I wouldn't count out Palin so quickly.

ferrari2001

Palin will fail badly, and obama saying Uh wont lose him the debate :roll:

Actually saying uh, during a debate greatly decreases your performance, if you've ever seen your high school (or sorry middle School) Debate teams.. The person who says uhh, usually ends up losing the debate..

ha ha ha your funny, Im in college,

Those people that are being kicked out of their houses dont care about Uhms they care about who can help them the most,

that man is Barack Obama

Sure but others will like what McCain is saying. The whole world isn't poor people.. Especially considering a majority of Obama's supporters are in college and poor. Most won't watch the Debate so who exactly is he talking to? And Youth are terrible at the polls so what's going to happen on voting day when they don't show up?

That would be a valid argument.... 4 years ago

People like Obama, alot more than Kerry

It's still a valid argument, 90% of teens obama supports support him blindly, don't argue against it cause it's true.. and throughout history youth have been terrible at the polls I don't see any difference here.

Did you stop to think that maybe people support Obama simply because they don't support McCain, and btw I can argue against this because you straight pulled that 90% statistic from your arse.

All the Youth I've talked to about why they support Obama couldn't give me clear answers at all. And a good speaker always came up.... And they may only support Obama because of the fact that they don't like McCain, but still doesn't change the fact, that youth prove very unreliable at the polls.

And yes I did make up that statistic, I'll admit that, it was overexaturated but you get my point. The fact that many unreliable voters support obama for really no reason.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="butteman12"]and Biden will destroy palin in their debate. that is all.H8sMikeMoore

i feel bad if you plan on voting for either one of them

I respect McCain for what hes done. I dont think he should be president

Obama is just a socialist underneath it all. That alone makes him unworthy of a vote

I still don't understand this :roll: he supports one socialist program, National Health care, something that the rest of the west already has.. And some how that makes him a complete socialist? Is there some other socialists points we are missing?

i didnt say everything he outright speaks about is socialist. however i dont want to be like the rest of the western world.

You just said it your self that "Obama is just a socialist underneath it all". Where is the proof? You have shown nothing but the fact he happens to support a socialist program that you disagree with.. Big whoop, the United States has tons of socialist polices and programs enacted already.. This isn't to say Obama is the best thing sense slice bread, but stop calling him a socialist it gets old, and it clearly shows how partisan you are..

the fact that he does support even the slightest socialism is enough for me. i disagree with all.

what party am i a part of? i expect an answer.

... Maybe you should read up of the working of our government.. Because you clearly don't realize we have numerous Socialist programs already in it.. I suppose you must be against the American government as a whole.. Afterall we have numeorus business laws and policies, socialistic education system, a tax system, wellfare, etc etc.. What your saying makes no sense inless you despise the entire american government and what it has been for years and years.

our government is a complete and utter failure on almost every level. Yes im already aware we have them in it. Apparently youve never read any threads ive been apart of. if I were arguing on your side I would make a huge effort to not even mention the schooling system.

Of course I despise it.

What party am I apart of?

I see.. So you against the minimum wage laws, the fair practice laws? The anti monoploy and cartel policies? Our country dpeends off numerous socialistic ideals.. And clealry it seems like your right wing, when you completely pigeon whole a canidate that supports a single socialistic policy (god forbid), as a socialist..

You must be goign crazy over the fact that the government is bailing out AIG..

And I find it entertaining when you say a utter failure.. Just which country is overall superior in its infastructure that you can compare off of?

If Carter was such a good president then why did he get destroyed by Reagan in the election? And if Reagan was so horrible then why did he win 49 out of 50 states when he ran for re-election? And really how can we trust your graphs, why don't you give us sources so we know they're not from some liberal website.halfirishhomer

again the liberal media card

Carter wasnt a good president and a shame to the democratic party

But he shares the same approval ratings with Regan

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="butteman12"]and Biden will destroy palin in their debate. that is all.lostprodigy3141

i feel bad if you plan on voting for either one of them

I respect McCain for what hes done. I dont think he should be president

Obama is just a socialist underneath it all. That alone makes him unworthy of a vote

You do realize they are the only available people, right? I suppose you're just going to write in your favorite person?

third party