Immoral "Religious" people are the biggest hypocrites in existence

[QUOTE="Assassin_87"][QUOTE="maheo30"]

That is not a teaching of Christianity at all. In Matthew 7 Christ is actually teaching you how to judge. He teaches how to avoid hypocritcal judgment. Christianity also teaches that the biggest hypocrite is the one we look at in the mirror every day.

maheo30

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I hope you aren't going to say you're Christian because you sure are judging people......

LJS9502_basic

Pretty sure the guy worships UFOs

Well, so are mine, I just don't expect mine to be answered.

the sooner you stop caring about what other people believe in and how they live their life, the sooner you will be happier in your own

[QUOTE="maheo30"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Considering no one exists that is perfect...there is no one that should be judging others per Matthew 7. LJS9502_basic

you can still be Christian and have lived an immoral life. That's the point, to repent yo. Jesus died for our sins ya know?

you can still be Christian and have lived an immoral life. That's the point, to repent yo. Jesus died for our sins ya know?

funtimez12345

Sure, you can plan to repent on your death bed but that's not going to help you if you get shot in the back of the head without warning...

Also, before the hate replies come in I am not trying to convert anybody but I am just explaining a flaw some people believe about Christianity and sin.

[QUOTE="funtimez12345"]

you can still be Christian and have lived an immoral life. That's the point, to repent yo. Jesus died for our sins ya know?

ad1x2

Sure, you can plan to repent on your death bed but that's not going to help you if you get shot in the back of the head without warning...

Also, before the hate replies come in I am not trying to convert anybody but I am just explaining a flaw some people believe about Christianity and sin.

How about Jews, if they follow their rules, they can have slaves, and beat them! Religions are hardly all that 'moral', they're almost all bronze age myths(as in, not all from the 'bronze age', they're are all myths(moronism, err, mormonism)), and they reflect some of that culture's morals, not what should be necessarily valued today. And they can kill people for being gay Isn't that just lovely.

I'd rather they be hypocrites than fundamentalits, those types can be terrible on civil rights.

Exodus 21:20-21: "And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money [property].

Exodus 21:1-4:"If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself: if he were married, then his wife shall go out with him. If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself."

[QUOTE="miriPlays"]

At least as far as Christianity is concerned, I'm pretty sure following a strict moral code to the letter hasn't been a requirement for a few thousand years.

hartsickdiscipl

Really? Because I just checked my Bible, and it didn't change.

How about Jews, if they follow their rules, they can have slaves, and beat them! Religions are hardly all that 'moral', they're almost all bronze age myths(as in, not all from the 'bronze age', they're are all myths(as in moronism, err, mormonism)), and they reflect some of that culture's morals, not what should be necessarily valued today. And they can kill people for being gay Isn't that just lovely.

I'd rather they be hypocrites than fundamentalits, those types can be terrible on civil rights.

Exodus 21:20-21 "And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money [property].

Exodus 21:1-4: "If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself: if he were married, then his wife shall go out with him. If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself."

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="miriPlays"]

At least as far as Christianity is concerned, I'm pretty sure following a strict moral code to the letter hasn't been a requirement for a few thousand years.

Inconsistancy

Really? Because I just checked my Bible, and it didn't change.

I might take this thread seriously if you didn't believe Jesus was half alien.

I don't think he was talking about translations...funtimez12345

Not what I was talking about, you dolt.

Not that at matters, since it's just the Anthology of Abrahamic Fairy Tales, Vol2(aka, The New Testament)

Modifications to the bible||||Quick summary, not all spelling errors/minor wording changes, some stories are flatly made up well after the original text had been finished.

Even if the bible hasn't been changed to be accurate with its original text (so as to be ~unchanging since his last look), that just means it's wrong.

[QUOTE="funtimez12345"]I don't think he was talking about translations...Inconsistancy

Not what I was talking about, you dolt.

Not that at matters, since it's just the Anthology of Abrahamic Fairy Tales, Vol2(aka, The New Testament)

Modifications to the bible||||Quick summary, not all spelling errors/minor wording changes, some stories are flatly made up well after the original text had been finished.

Even if the bible hasn't been changed to be accurate with its original text (so as to be ~unchanging since his last look), that just means it's wrong.

Okay first of all if you think I'm reading that fuking novel you posted you're wrong. Secondly I did read some of it and it seems to be about contradictions and inconsistencies in the bible not changes. And he cites the book Misquoting Jesus, which itself brings no proof to these alleged changes.

funtimez12345

"after Jesus died, Mary Magdalene and two other women came back to the tomb to anoint the body of Jesus, according to Mark 16:1-2). They were met by a man in a white robe who told them that Jesus had been raised and was no longer there. The women fled and said nothing more to anyone out of fear (16:4-8). Everyone knows the rest of Marks Gospel, of course.The problem with the remainder of the story is that none of it was originally in the Gospel of Mark. It was added by a later scribe. "

That means, made up, changed independant of translation.

Another religion bashing thread. How original. I agree, but i mean, isn't all of this pretty obvious already? Christians may be beating their slaves but you're beating a dead horse (anyone? anyone?) :P

[QUOTE="funtimez12345"]Okay first of all if you think I'm reading that fuking novel you posted you're wrong. Secondly I did read some of it and it seems to be about contradictions and inconsistencies in the bible not changes. And he cites the book Misquoting Jesus, which itself brings no proof to these alleged changes.

Inconsistancy

"after Jesus died, Mary Magdalene and two other women came back to the tomb to anoint the body of Jesus, according to Mark 16:1-2). They were met by a man in a white robe who told them that Jesus had been raised and was no longer there. The women fled and said nothing more to anyone out of fear (16:4-8). Everyone knows the rest of Marks Gospel, of course.The problem with the remainder of the story is that none of it was originally in the Gospel of Mark. It was added by a later scribe. "

That means, made up, changed independant of translation.

Some douchebag with a blog could say anything and you would beileve it.

How does he know that it was later added? He brings no proof.

Some douchebag with a blog could say anything and you would beileve it.

funtimez12345

Honestly, I don't give a crap, I'm not the one who believes this garbage. If you really want it confirmed, go learn Greek and get the original copies from where ever they're stored, and start comparing them to later copies.

And the author of that page was getting his information from a book (linked on the page) "Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why" by Bart D. Ehrman

And I'm not going to fact-check the goddamn book for your lazy ass.

Everyone is a hypocrite, if not, you probably haven't learned from mistakes. Ever make mistakes in your life?

[QUOTE="funtimez12345"]How does he know that it was later added? He brings no proof.

Some douchebag with a blog could say anything and you would beileve it.

Inconsistancy

Honestly, I don't give a crap, I'm not the one who believes this garbage. If you really want it confirmed, go learn Greek and get the original copies from where ever they're stored, and start comparing them to later copies.

And the author of that page was getting his information from a book (linked on the page) "Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why" by Bart D. Ehrman

And I'm not going to fact-check the goddamn book for your lazy ass.

Atheists-0 Christians-1

Confession doesn't work like that. Having confessed before I can tell you people don't do it willy nilly.

Confession doesn't work like that. Having confessed before I can tell you people don't do it willy nilly.

Philokalia

[QUOTE="Philokalia"]

Confession doesn't work like that. Having confessed before I can tell you people don't do it willy nilly.

funtimez12345

Orthodox Catholic.

"Don't pray for a bike, I can't give you that. Go steal one and pray for forgiveness...that I can give you." - God

"Don't pray for a bike, I can't give you that. Go steal one and pray for forgiveness...that I can give you." - Me*

wis3boi

Confession does work like that. Having confessed before I can tell you people do it willy nilly.

Philokalia

"Don't pray for a bike, I can't give you that. Go steal one and pray for forgiveness...that I can give you." - God

wis3boi

lol funny.

[QUOTE="Philokalia"]

Confession does work like that. Having confessed before I can tell you people don't do it willy nilly.

RationalAtheist

I don't think religion and morality necessarily go hand in hand.

A lot worse examples of hypocrisy.

[QUOTE="RationalAtheist"]

[QUOTE="Philokalia"]

Confession does work like that. Having confessed before I can tell you people don't do it willy nilly.

Philokalia

I think you forgot to re-add a "not" in there! - or did you.......?

I guess you do have feelings about people editing your words, after all!

Yeah because you totally know the true intentions of millions of people just by judging a few loons that made the news.:roll:

BATTOSAI76

Who said anything about that? :?

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

How many people do you know that go to church and/or claim to be Christian, Muslim, ect.. but don't follow their own rules? Yes, we are all fallible, imperfect creatures.. but you can usually tell when someone is at least trying to do things the way that they purport to believe is the right way. I know that Christians were instructed to avoid judging others, and to basically mind their own business, aside from preaching the good news about God. However, it's difficult to ignore the number of people who seem to think that they can go do whatever the **** they want to do and go confess/pray it all away. Sexual immorality, illegal activities, dishonesty, you name it. It really disgusts me when I look around and see so many people who say one thing and then do another. At least a person who doesn't claim to be a devout believer in a strict moral code isn't breaking their own rules and looking like a total phony.

So, what do you think? Can you think of a worse example of hypocrisy? How many religious people do you know that seem like they really are trying to live their lives in accordance with the morals and rules that they claim to believe in?

LJS9502_basic

Yes, I am a Christian. Not your traditional Christian by any means. However, it's patently impossible to keep your mind from judging people some of the time. However, it's completely possible to keep yourself from committing murder, adultery, theft, etc.. Thoughts, feelings, and impressions are not 100% under a person's control. Actions are. I'm sure Jesus was aware of that, and that's why his council regarding judging others was made more as a suggestion than an order, unlike many of his other proclamations.

I might take this thread seriously if you didn't believe Jesus was half alien.

TopTierHustler

I'm going to laugh so hard when you find out that it's true. So was Noah (read the book of Enoch).

Hypocrisy is pretty much a function of religion, next to shame. When one's religious beliefs contradict one's inherent nature, it is hard to avoid being hypocritical. Best just to embrace one's nature.Zeviander

I disagree. Whether or not someone is hypocritical is entirely based on how they lead others to perceive them, so it's all about how honest you are in presenting yourself. For instance, if a Christian claims to adhere perfectly to Christ's teachings then he is almost certainly a liar and a textbook example of a hypocrite. On the other hand, I find the stance taken by mindstorm for example (that we are all sinful and unworthy in the eyes of God, and inherently evil) to be anything but hypocritical, as he makes no claim of being able to stick perfectly to a Christ-like lifestyle.

Hypocrisy is pretty much a function of religion, next to shame. When one's religious beliefs contradict one's inherent nature, it is hard to avoid being hypocritical. Best just to embrace one's nature.Zeviander

Not a good idea for a lot of people. That would involve a lot more violence and crime than already happens.

Atheists are pretty bad too, I would say not as bad.

"I'am against religion! and to express that, I'am going to join this religion"

Atheists are pretty bad too, I would say not as bad.

"I'am against religion! and to express that, I'am going to join this religion"

CondorCalabasas

Atheists are pretty bad too, I would say not as bad.

"I'am against religion! and to express that, I'am going to join this religion"

CondorCalabasas

I disagree. Whether or not someone is hypocritical is entirely based on how they lead others to perceive them, so it's all about how honest you are in presenting yourself. For instance, if a Christian claims to adhere perfectly to Christ's teachings then he is almost certainly a liar and a textbook example of a hypocrite. On the other hand, I find the stance taken by mindstorm for example (that we are all sinful and unworthy in the eyes of God, and inherently evil) to be anything but hypocritical, as he makes no claim of being able to stick perfectly to a Christ-like lifestyle.Assassin_87

Not a good idea for a lot of people. That would involve a lot more violence and crime than already happens. hartsickdiscipl

[QUOTE="CondorCalabasas"]

Atheists are pretty bad too, I would say not as bad.

"I'am against religion! and to express that, I'am going to join this religion"

Inconsistancy

[QUOTE="Assassin_87"]I disagree. Whether or not someone is hypocritical is entirely based on how they lead others to perceive them, so it's all about how honest you are in presenting yourself. For instance, if a Christian claims to adhere perfectly to Christ's teachings then he is almost certainly a liar and a textbook example of a hypocrite. On the other hand, I find the stance taken by mindstorm for example (that we are all sinful and unworthy in the eyes of God, and inherently evil) to be anything but hypocritical, as he makes no claim of being able to stick perfectly to a Christ-like lifestyle.Zeviander

Well, that sounds very profound. The problem is that to be hypocritical to oneself would still require that you are operating under the delusion that you will somehow eventually meet the standards set forth by your belief system. Not all Christians think this way. Those who don't, it would then stand to reason, are being hypocritical to no one.

As a Christian, I can't think of any.

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

I might take this thread seriously if you didn't believe Jesus was half alien.

hartsickdiscipl

I'm going to laugh so hard when you find out that it's true. So was Noah (read the book of Enoch).

Noah didn't exist, neither did the ark or adam and eve

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

I might take this thread seriously if you didn't believe Jesus was half alien.

wis3boi

I'm going to laugh so hard when you find out that it's true. So was Noah (read the book of Enoch).

Noah didn't exist, neither did the ark or adam and eve

You keep telling yourself that.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I'm going to laugh so hard when you find out that it's true. So was Noah (read the book of Enoch).

hartsickdiscipl

Noah didn't exist, neither did the ark or adam and eve

You keep telling yourself that.

Enjoy candyland, the rest of us can live in reality.