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I am glad to see that there is plans to impeach the "President" Barack Hussein Obama, our country would be a better place without him. VigilantEagleWhy'd you put president in quotes?
[QUOTE="VigilantEagle"]I am glad to see that there is plans to impeach the "President" Barack Hussein Obama, our country would be a better place without him. SilverbondWhy'd you president in quotes?Cause he does not really care about the country so he does not deserve the honor of being called our President.
Impeachement. Happens with every President it seems like nowadays. Started with Clinton, then Bush, then Obama. The party in the opposite side of power will always "impeach" because they don't like the president.
Eh....while Bush diserved to be impeached, because he has freaken blood on his hands.....Clinton beceause of lying about sex? Obama because he's trying to pass health care to improve people's lives? Just mentioning this as a neutral observer. Before people say I'm a liberal parot (And I know its coming)....let me say I am not. I don't really care. I'm a neutral observer.
I just think this health care thing is not understood at all....its not meant to control peoples lives as they say. They are just in a corner, and they are spewing their hate. That's all there is to it when it comes to health care. You don't have to sign up for the new health care. I might not sign up for it either. Just my two cents.
Impeachment would only look worse for the Republican party.
The republicans are going through a very crappy phase right now. There is no good conservative party in the US now which is actually doing more harm than good to the country. The Republicans are to right. They don't try to work with any social policy what-so-ever. It doesn't work in their favor when it comes to getting votes.
They also talk for smaller government, but when in power they do nothing but increase spending while decreasing taxes. You can't have both.
Impeaching Obama... I go back and forth on this one. I feel he's socialist and harming the country and throwing it into a pit of despair, but then again am I just paranoid?
dunl12496
Paranoid. Obama is not even close to being a socialist.
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Impeaching Obama... I go back and forth on this one. I feel he's socialist and harming the country and throwing it into a pit of despair, but then again am I just paranoid?
Ingenemployee
Paranoid. Obama is not even close to being a socialist.
I know seriously. You have to live in a socialist country to know what it is. Obama is not a socialist by any standards.[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="VigilantEagle"]I am glad to see that there is plans to impeach the "President" Barack Hussein Obama, our country would be a better place without him. VigilantEagleWhy'd you president in quotes?Cause he does not really care about the country so he does not deserve the honor of being called our President. do you have evidence of him saying he doesn't care about our country? or do you say that because you're trying to find a reason to hate him?
Why'd you put president in quotes?[QUOTE="Silverbond"]
[QUOTE="VigilantEagle"]I am glad to see that there is plans to impeach the "President" Barack Hussein Obama, our country would be a better place without him. Joshywaa
I think he is attempting to troll....
How sad.
Actually I am not trying to troll, I do not agree with Obama so its in my 1st amendment right to refer to him in anyway I want to.[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="VigilantEagle"]I am glad to see that there is plans to impeach the "President" Barack Hussein Obama, our country would be a better place without him. VigilantEagleWhy'd you president in quotes?Cause he does not really care about the country so he does not deserve the honor of being called our President. Of course Obama is a socialist, marxist, racist, terrorist Kenyan whose sole mission was to run for President of the Untied States and destroy the country!!!!!! AM I RITE? :roll: I don't think Obama is doing a great job, but what you said is facepalm worthy.
[QUOTE="Joshywaa"][QUOTE="Silverbond"] Why'd you put president in quotes?
VigilantEagle
I think he is attempting to troll....
How sad.
Actually I am not trying to troll, I do not agree with Obama so its in my 1st amendment right to refer to him in anyway I want to.Okay, then. :roll:
[QUOTE="Joshywaa"]do you have evidence of him saying he doesn't care about our country? or do you say that because you're trying to find a reason to hate him?I do not like him because he is trying to turn the US into a socialist nation and he is damaging our economy so that he can make this happen. Dude get a clue already......you need a course about socialism to know what it is. Are you listening to fox news again? :P[QUOTE="Silverbond"]Cause he does not really care about the country so he does not deserve the honor of being called our President. VigilantEagle
Actually I am not trying to troll, I do not agree with Obama so its in my 1st amendment right to refer to him in anyway I want to.[QUOTE="VigilantEagle"][QUOTE="Joshywaa"]
I think he is attempting to troll....
How sad.
Joshywaa
Okay, then. :roll:
I can see you doubt me, why ? If I do not like him why should I act like I do ? Its my right to voice my opinion.Impeach him for what? A bill that passed through Congress and was later signed into law? Y'know, per process? Reminds of the sillyheads who thought Bush should be impeached for the Patriot Act.
I do not like him because he is trying to turn the US into a socialist nation and he is damaging our economy so that he can make this happen. Dude get a clue already......you need a course about socialism to know what it is. Are you listening to fox news again? :PHe is trying to make us more and more dependent on the government and he is putting us into a lot of debt. And yes I do watch Fox News because thats the only place where I do not have to listen to the liberal bias media coverage.[QUOTE="VigilantEagle"][QUOTE="Joshywaa"] do you have evidence of him saying he doesn't care about our country? or do you say that because you're trying to find a reason to hate him?outworld222
There is nothing impeachment worthy. God this has been going on almost all my lifetime. Impeachment has lost its value.
[QUOTE="outworld222"]Dude get a clue already......you need a course about socialism to know what it is. Are you listening to fox news again? :PHe is trying to make us more and more dependent on the government and he is putting us into a lot of debt. And yes I do watch Fox News because thats the only place where I do not have to listen to the liberal bias media coverage. I have to say as a neutral observer....that your right.....but my greater beef with the (R) party is that they are too pro war......I hate war. I do not like that stuff.[QUOTE="VigilantEagle"]I do not like him because he is trying to turn the US into a socialist nation and he is damaging our economy so that he can make this happen.VigilantEagle
[QUOTE="outworld222"]Dude get a clue already......you need a course about socialism to know what it is. Are you listening to fox news again? :PHe is trying to make us more and more dependent on the government and he is putting us into a lot of debt. And yes I do watch Fox News because thats the only place where I do not have to listen to the liberal bias media coverage. So you are only getting one side of the story (conservative) which also makes you biased. See what I did there? Republican Party will only shoot itself in the foot if it starts the impeachment process because most Americans, to my knowledge, are concerned with fixing USA's economy and not with either party pursuing their own political agenda.[QUOTE="VigilantEagle"]I do not like him because he is trying to turn the US into a socialist nation and he is damaging our economy so that he can make this happen.VigilantEagle
I can't fathom the Republicans actually attempting to impeach Obama, let alone the notion that there would be success with such a measure were it to get to the floor.
[QUOTE="outworld222"]Dude get a clue already......you need a course about socialism to know what it is. Are you listening to fox news again? :PHe is trying to make us more and more dependent on the government and he is putting us into a lot of debt. And yes I do watch Fox News because thats the only place where I do not have to listen to the liberal bias media coverage.[QUOTE="VigilantEagle"]I do not like him because he is trying to turn the US into a socialist nation and he is damaging our economy so that he can make this happen.VigilantEagle
Define socialism.
There is nothing impeachment worthy. God this has been going on almost all my lifetime. Impeachment has lost its value.
outworld222
Breaking the law is impeachment worthy. Says so right in the Constitution. Hence Clinton getting impeached, not for lying about sex, but for lying in sworn testimony to a federal grand jury (which is a felony).
[QUOTE="VigilantEagle"][QUOTE="outworld222"] Dude get a clue already......you need a course about socialism to know what it is. Are you listening to fox news again? :P
He is trying to make us more and more dependent on the government and he is putting us into a lot of debt. And yes I do watch Fox News because thats the only place where I do not have to listen to the liberal bias media coverage.Define socialism.
Exactly. People who cry "Socialism!!!" Don't even know what it is. Just an excuse to hate the terrorist Kenyan.:roll:[QUOTE="outworld222"]
There is nothing impeachment worthy. God this has been going on almost all my lifetime. Impeachment has lost its value.
Oleg_Huzwog
Breaking the law is impeachment worthy. Says so right in the Constitution. Hence Clinton getting impeached, not for lying about sex, but for lying in sworn testimony to a federal grand jury (which is a felony).
I'm not a grand jury expert, but I respect ALL of the laws.I still can't believe nearly 20 years after the cold war some people are still falling for red scares. Jesus.
Anyway, the "pro-constitutional" label is pretty ironic in this instance. "I like the Constitution, let's impeach a president who followed the legislative process set out in it!".
[QUOTE="Former_Slacker"][QUOTE="VigilantEagle"]He is trying to make us more and more dependent on the government and he is putting us into a lot of debt. And yes I do watch Fox News because thats the only place where I do not have to listen to the liberal bias media coverage.On3ShotOneKill
Define socialism.
Exactly. People who cry "Socialism!!!" Don't even know what it is. Just an excuse to hate the terrorist Kenyan.:roll: Any direction towards a mixed market is socialism to these people. Their idea of left and right are highly skewed.[QUOTE="Former_Slacker"][QUOTE="VigilantEagle"]He is trying to make us more and more dependent on the government and he is putting us into a lot of debt. And yes I do watch Fox News because thats the only place where I do not have to listen to the liberal bias media coverage.On3ShotOneKill
Define socialism.
Exactly. People who cry "Socialism!!!" Don't even know what it is. Just an excuse to hate the terrorist, nazi, communist, baby eating, tree hugging Kenyan.:roll:Fixed. :P
He is trying to make us more and more dependent on the government and he is putting us into a lot of debt. And yes I do watch Fox News because thats the only place where I do not have to listen to the liberal bias media coverage.VigilantEagle
So you listen to conservative bias media coverage?
I can see you doubt me, why ? If I do not like him why should I act like I do ? Its my right to voice my opinion.
VigilantEagle
Voicing your opinion.... right. The way you worded your post was pretty...i don't know...blatant.
[QUOTE="Former_Slacker"][QUOTE="VigilantEagle"]He is trying to make us more and more dependent on the government and he is putting us into a lot of debt. And yes I do watch Fox News because thats the only place where I do not have to listen to the liberal bias media coverage.On3ShotOneKill
Define socialism.
Exactly. People who cry "Socialism!!!" Don't even know what it is. Just an excuse to hate the terrorist Kenyan.:roll:: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods that is happening in America, look at the bailout and what it has done.[QUOTE="Wasdie"][QUOTE="CRS98"]Just more idiots trying to deny progress.CRS98
More government programs and taxes are progress?
Everyone else is doing it, and the only reason we have not ventured to that is because of Reagan and his idea of 'limited government'.Just because everybody else is doing it doesn't mean it's a good thing. Higher taxes and deficit spending cannot be a good thing for any country.
Government in this country shouldn't be large. Again, there is NO reason we have to copy the systems of other nations. The government needs to protect the people's rights, not take responsibilities away from them.
Regan's idea of limited government would be great if he wouldn't have also jacked up spending on the military like he had. The idea of small government and a large private sector isn't a bad thing. It's only really bad when you start deficit spending like mad. Now it's coming back to haunt us. Instead of reducing and maybe increasing taxes here and there to make a surplus, we are given a couple trillion dollars more in spending.
How is that progressive? Feel-good policies like health care and social security don't make for good laws. They take the responsibility of the citizens and puts it on the state, which in turn puts the responsibility on everybody, not just those who it's effecting.
The US is not built on the idea that everybody is fair. The only thing we are all supposed to be completely equal on is our rights as laid out in the Constitution. We have the right to peruse happiness, we have to catch it ourselves. The idea that you can take away personal responsibility and give it to others isn't progressive, it's actually a step back as it slows all sectors down. Then we have some serious problems.
: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods that is happening in America, look at the bailout and what it has done.VigilantEagleI'm not seeing it, enlighten me with some cases?
[QUOTE="On3ShotOneKill"][QUOTE="Former_Slacker"]Exactly. People who cry "Socialism!!!" Don't even know what it is. Just an excuse to hate the terrorist Kenyan.:roll:: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods that is happening in America, look at the bailout and what it has done.Define socialism.
VigilantEagle
Ok where does he advocate government owenership of the means of production? The bailouts were coordinated by Bush and are a non-point.
[QUOTE="On3ShotOneKill"][QUOTE="Former_Slacker"]Exactly. People who cry "Socialism!!!" Don't even know what it is. Just an excuse to hate the terrorist Kenyan.:roll: Any direction towards a mixed market is socialism to these people. They're idea of left and right are highly skewed.Define socialism.
CRS98
But, but, Rush Limbaugh said he was socialist!!!
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