In 3-5 years I'm going to be in the biggest band on the planet

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#101 Montaya
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someones been playing to much rock band... lol jk.
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[QUOTE="whodeysay85"]did you even tell us what your band is called so i can know if you ever make it?darksword1123

Never thought of a band name yet, but you'll know who we are though.

A carbon copy of every other mediocre band that's been around for the past 5 years?

No

If you want all of these fantasies of yours to come true then thats what your going to have to become....another ****** mainstream band.

There are plenty of popular bands out there who are really talented. I just got done listening to a band called "Muse". Really good band. WHite STripes are really great too. John Mayer is also really talented. But THose guys are just merely "really popular" bands. I'm aiming to be the biggest band on the planet. But know we won't be another ****** mainstream band like Fall Out Boy, etc. It's hard to explain but I've been listening to rock musis since I was two years old, I know what's good and what's crap. I'm prodigiously confident this album will be amazing if I actually move to LA and get a good band together and we go all the way. I'm telling you, the quality of the music will be astrnomically prestine

If thats your goal then you don't really enjoy music.....you just want to be a star....music isn't about popularity its about the joy of creating it....its something you should enkoy doing and not worry about how popular you become....there is a lot you still need to discover before you even come close to being in a band....based off what your saying you need to give all of this up and just focus on being an engineer.

No dude the music will always come first. I'd rather shoot myself dead than sacrafice the quality in the muisc to sell albums. I just want to be the biggest band on the planet as well. You know Led Zeppelin right? They're were regarded as the biggest band of the 70s AND one of the greatest bands of all time. I'm not saying we'll be one of the greatest, but the muisc will be amazing as it is popular

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#103 Zaeryn
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Okay, let's see how you do.
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#104 icarus212001
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Youre future. Now in cartoon!Penguin_dragon

epic win!

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[QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="Hallenbeck77"][QUOTE="zabrak999"]

[QUOTE="whodeysay85"]did you even tell us what your band is called so i can know if you ever make it?zabrak999

Never thought of a band name yet, but you'll know who we are though.

A carbon copy of every other mediocre band that's been around for the past 5 years?

No

If you want all of these fantasies of yours to come true then thats what your going to have to become....another ****** mainstream band.

There are plenty of popular bands out there who are really talented. I just got done listening to a band called "Muse". Really good band. WHite STripes are really great too. John Mayer is also really talented. But THose guys are just merely "really popular" bands. I'm aiming to be the biggest band on the planet. But know we won't be another ****** mainstream band like Fall Out Boy, etc. It's hard to explain but I've been listening to rock musis since I was two years old, I know what's good and what's crap. I'm prodigiously confident this album will be amazing if I actually move to LA and get a good band together and we go all the way. I'm telling you, the quality of the music will be astrnomically prestine

If thats your goal then you don't really enjoy music.....you just want to be a star....music isn't about popularity its about the joy of creating it....its something you should enkoy doing and not worry about how popular you become....there is a lot you still need to discover before you even come close to being in a band....based off what your saying you need to give all of this up and just focus on being an engineer.

No dude the music will always come first. I'd rather shoot myself dead than sacrafice the quality in the muisc to sell albums. I just want to be the biggest band on the planet as well. You know Led Zeppelin right? They're were regarded as the biggest band of the 70s AND one of the greatest bands of all time. I'm not saying we'll be one of the greatest, but the muisc will be amazing as it is popular

You're gonna be like Led Zeppelin? They only had one good song. :|
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#106 zabrak999
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I hope you are an excellent songwriter and have hundreds of millions of dollars if you want to do all of that.atst007

The record label will fund the album, if things get too out of reach I'll just say sacrafice my payment to fund the album. It'll be hard for them to decline this though. It won't be hundreds of millions of dollars though to create the album, i think the most expensive is like 67 million or something. Ours won't be really all that expensive....The only people that would be expensive would probably be like mariah carey or nas

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[QUOTE="atst007"]I hope you are an excellent songwriter and have hundreds of millions of dollars if you want to do all of that.zabrak999

The record label will fund the album, if things get too out of reach I'll just say sacrafice my payment to fund the album. It'll be hard for them to decline this though. It won't be hundreds of millions of dollars though to create the album, i think the most expensive is like 67 million or something. Ours won't be really all that expensive....The only people that would be expensive would probably be like mariah carey or nas

If it's good. But, we have no idea because you haven't let us hear it. :x
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This topic failed the second it was created. However it deserves the 2008 Hilarity Award. Kudos to you TC, you are now infamous for creating junk.
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[QUOTE="atst007"]I hope you are an excellent songwriter and have hundreds of millions of dollars if you want to do all of that.zabrak999

The record label will fund the album, if things get too out of reach I'll just say sacrafice my payment to fund the album. It'll be hard for them to decline this though. It won't be hundreds of millions of dollars though to create the album, i think the most expensive is like 67 million or something. Ours won't be really all that expensive....The only people that would be expensive would probably be like mariah carey or nas

It would probably be $10,000,000 per track for each of them, not to mention other costs that aren't included. Also, why would Nas or any known artist feature on some unknown band's album that he/they have no connection to?

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[QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="Hallenbeck77"][QUOTE="zabrak999"]

[QUOTE="whodeysay85"]did you even tell us what your band is called so i can know if you ever make it?jaydough

Never thought of a band name yet, but you'll know who we are though.

A carbon copy of every other mediocre band that's been around for the past 5 years?

No

If you want all of these fantasies of yours to come true then thats what your going to have to become....another ****** mainstream band.

There are plenty of popular bands out there who are really talented. I just got done listening to a band called "Muse". Really good band. WHite STripes are really great too. John Mayer is also really talented. But THose guys are just merely "really popular" bands. I'm aiming to be the biggest band on the planet. But know we won't be another ****** mainstream band like Fall Out Boy, etc. It's hard to explain but I've been listening to rock musis since I was two years old, I know what's good and what's crap. I'm prodigiously confident this album will be amazing if I actually move to LA and get a good band together and we go all the way. I'm telling you, the quality of the music will be astrnomically prestine

If thats your goal then you don't really enjoy music.....you just want to be a star....music isn't about popularity its about the joy of creating it....its something you should enkoy doing and not worry about how popular you become....there is a lot you still need to discover before you even come close to being in a band....based off what your saying you need to give all of this up and just focus on being an engineer.

No dude the music will always come first. I'd rather shoot myself dead than sacrafice the quality in the muisc to sell albums. I just want to be the biggest band on the planet as well. You know Led Zeppelin right? They're were regarded as the biggest band of the 70s AND one of the greatest bands of all time. I'm not saying we'll be one of the greatest, but the muisc will be amazing as it is popular

You're gonna be like Led Zeppelin? They only had one good song. :|

LMFAO epic failure. Do you want to kill yourself now or later?

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[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="Hallenbeck77"][QUOTE="zabrak999"]

[QUOTE="whodeysay85"]did you even tell us what your band is called so i can know if you ever make it?zabrak999

Never thought of a band name yet, but you'll know who we are though.

A carbon copy of every other mediocre band that's been around for the past 5 years?

No

If you want all of these fantasies of yours to come true then thats what your going to have to become....another ****** mainstream band.

There are plenty of popular bands out there who are really talented. I just got done listening to a band called "Muse". Really good band. WHite STripes are really great too. John Mayer is also really talented. But THose guys are just merely "really popular" bands. I'm aiming to be the biggest band on the planet. But know we won't be another ****** mainstream band like Fall Out Boy, etc. It's hard to explain but I've been listening to rock musis since I was two years old, I know what's good and what's crap. I'm prodigiously confident this album will be amazing if I actually move to LA and get a good band together and we go all the way. I'm telling you, the quality of the music will be astrnomically prestine

If thats your goal then you don't really enjoy music.....you just want to be a star....music isn't about popularity its about the joy of creating it....its something you should enkoy doing and not worry about how popular you become....there is a lot you still need to discover before you even come close to being in a band....based off what your saying you need to give all of this up and just focus on being an engineer.

No dude the music will always come first. I'd rather shoot myself dead than sacrafice the quality in the muisc to sell albums. I just want to be the biggest band on the planet as well. You know Led Zeppelin right? They're were regarded as the biggest band of the 70s AND one of the greatest bands of all time. I'm not saying we'll be one of the greatest, but the muisc will be amazing as it is popular

You're gonna be like Led Zeppelin? They only had one good song. :|

LMFAO epic failure. Do you want to kill yourself now or later?

Question is, do you?
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[QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="Hallenbeck77"][QUOTE="zabrak999"]

[QUOTE="whodeysay85"]did you even tell us what your band is called so i can know if you ever make it?zabrak999

Never thought of a band name yet, but you'll know who we are though.

A carbon copy of every other mediocre band that's been around for the past 5 years?

No

If you want all of these fantasies of yours to come true then thats what your going to have to become....another ****** mainstream band.

There are plenty of popular bands out there who are really talented. I just got done listening to a band called "Muse". Really good band. WHite STripes are really great too. John Mayer is also really talented. But THose guys are just merely "really popular" bands. I'm aiming to be the biggest band on the planet. But know we won't be another ****** mainstream band like Fall Out Boy, etc. It's hard to explain but I've been listening to rock musis since I was two years old, I know what's good and what's crap. I'm prodigiously confident this album will be amazing if I actually move to LA and get a good band together and we go all the way. I'm telling you, the quality of the music will be astrnomically prestine

If thats your goal then you don't really enjoy music.....you just want to be a star....music isn't about popularity its about the joy of creating it....its something you should enkoy doing and not worry about how popular you become....there is a lot you still need to discover before you even come close to being in a band....based off what your saying you need to give all of this up and just focus on being an engineer.

No dude the music will always come first. I'd rather shoot myself dead than sacrafice the quality in the muisc to sell albums. I just want to be the biggest band on the planet as well. You know Led Zeppelin right? They're were regarded as the biggest band of the 70s AND one of the greatest bands of all time. I'm not saying we'll be one of the greatest, but the muisc will be amazing as it is popular

darksworld1123's right though. Led Zeppelin became the biggest band BIG ACCIDENT. they never set out to do it. it just happened. thats why they are so great. because since that mindset was eliminated, they were able to fully focus on their music, thus being able to become huge. Your goal is different in that you WANT to become famous, and thats where you'll fail. you'll focus so hard on being famous that you're music will suffer. you won't realize it now but it will happen. on top of that, even if the music is great, people won't know what to think of you. you advertise like a mainstream band, eliminating your core audience in that they will think your band is a sell out, and the mainstream won't like you because your not like everyone else. you gotta focus on yourself, and your music. if people like it, cool. if not, no sweat, you made music. THATS how you become big.

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#113 zabrak999
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[QUOTE="zabrak999"]

[QUOTE="atst007"]I hope you are an excellent songwriter and have hundreds of millions of dollars if you want to do all of that.B05T0N

The record label will fund the album, if things get too out of reach I'll just say sacrafice my payment to fund the album. It'll be hard for them to decline this though. It won't be hundreds of millions of dollars though to create the album, i think the most expensive is like 67 million or something. Ours won't be really all that expensive....The only people that would be expensive would probably be like mariah carey or nas

It would probably be $10,000,000 per track for each of them, not to mention other costs that aren't included. Also, why would Nas or any known artist feature on some unknown band's album that he/they have no connection to?

I don't know how much it'd be to have mariah carey on it, but 10 million? I don't think so dude. Anyway the record label would convience them with the music and what not. We'd fully explain all of this (the other celebs that'll be on it, etc.) and there would be no way he could turn it down. IF he is still not sure about it, we'd double his pay - if he's still not sure about it then **** him.

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#114 22Toothpicks
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Ambitious and humble...:roll:

Let me guess, you just wrote a new snazzy riff that all your friends think is "rad" and some how use that as a spring board to launch into some fantasy that you are to be in one of, neigh, the best band ever?

Talk about imagination. It's great that you have such dreams but try to be realistic. Do you have any idea how truly hard it is to write a complete song? For that matter, a good one? I've recorded some of my music in the past and you have no idea how tedious and frustrating it can be until you actually do it.

You are in for a world of disappointment with those lofty expectations..
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[QUOTE="B05T0N"][QUOTE="zabrak999"]

[QUOTE="atst007"]I hope you are an excellent songwriter and have hundreds of millions of dollars if you want to do all of that.zabrak999

The record label will fund the album, if things get too out of reach I'll just say sacrafice my payment to fund the album. It'll be hard for them to decline this though. It won't be hundreds of millions of dollars though to create the album, i think the most expensive is like 67 million or something. Ours won't be really all that expensive....The only people that would be expensive would probably be like mariah carey or nas

It would probably be $10,000,000 per track for each of them, not to mention other costs that aren't included. Also, why would Nas or any known artist feature on some unknown band's album that he/they have no connection to?

I don't know how much it'd be to have mariah carey on it, but 10 million? I don't think so dude. Anyway the record label would convience them with the music and what not. We'd fully explain all of this (the other celebs that'll be on it, etc.) and there would be no way he could turn it down. IF he is still not sure about it, we'd double his pay - if he's still not sure about it then **** him.

You've explained this to US and we don't even think the album will be good. >__>
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Stop thinking way ahead....first you need to make some music and let us hear it....if you fail at the first step there is no moving on....thinking about doing all of this stuff is not going to do you any good.
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Stop thinking way ahead....first you need to make some music and let us hear it....if you fail at the first step there is no moving on....thinking about doing all of this stuff is not going to do you any good.darksword1123
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I'm not going to not read all that and I'll just assume you're full of it. Prove me wrong if you can...doubt it
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[QUOTE="zabrak999"]

[QUOTE="atst007"]I hope you are an excellent songwriter and have hundreds of millions of dollars if you want to do all of that.B05T0N

The record label will fund the album, if things get too out of reach I'll just say sacrafice my payment to fund the album. It'll be hard for them to decline this though. It won't be hundreds of millions of dollars though to create the album, i think the most expensive is like 67 million or something. Ours won't be really all that expensive....The only people that would be expensive would probably be like mariah carey or nas

It would probably be $10,000,000 per track for each of them, not to mention other costs that aren't included. Also, why would Nas or any known artist feature on some unknown band's album that he/they have no connection to?



Yep, it's pricey. The studio one of my friends uses is about $900/min. And it's not the greatest studio either...
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[QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="Hallenbeck77"][QUOTE="zabrak999"]

[QUOTE="whodeysay85"]did you even tell us what your band is called so i can know if you ever make it?icarus212001

Never thought of a band name yet, but you'll know who we are though.

A carbon copy of every other mediocre band that's been around for the past 5 years?

No

If you want all of these fantasies of yours to come true then thats what your going to have to become....another ****** mainstream band.

There are plenty of popular bands out there who are really talented. I just got done listening to a band called "Muse". Really good band. WHite STripes are really great too. John Mayer is also really talented. But THose guys are just merely "really popular" bands. I'm aiming to be the biggest band on the planet. But know we won't be another ****** mainstream band like Fall Out Boy, etc. It's hard to explain but I've been listening to rock musis since I was two years old, I know what's good and what's crap. I'm prodigiously confident this album will be amazing if I actually move to LA and get a good band together and we go all the way. I'm telling you, the quality of the music will be astrnomically prestine

If thats your goal then you don't really enjoy music.....you just want to be a star....music isn't about popularity its about the joy of creating it....its something you should enkoy doing and not worry about how popular you become....there is a lot you still need to discover before you even come close to being in a band....based off what your saying you need to give all of this up and just focus on being an engineer.

No dude the music will always come first. I'd rather shoot myself dead than sacrafice the quality in the muisc to sell albums. I just want to be the biggest band on the planet as well. You know Led Zeppelin right? They're were regarded as the biggest band of the 70s AND one of the greatest bands of all time. I'm not saying we'll be one of the greatest, but the muisc will be amazing as it is popular

darksworld1123's right though. Led Zeppelin became the biggest band BIG ACCIDENT. they never set out to do it. it just happened. thats why they are so great. because since that mindset was eliminated, they were able to fully focus on their music, thus being able to become huge. Your goal is different in that you WANT to become famous, and thats where you'll fail. you'll focus so hard on being famous that you're music will suffer. you won't realize it now but it will happen. on top of that, even if the music is great, people won't know what to think of you. you advertise like a mainstream band, eliminating your core audience in that they will think your band is a sell out, and the mainstream won't like you because your not like everyone else. you gotta focus on yourself, and your music. if people like it, cool. if not, no sweat, you made music. THATS how you become big.

One exception I can think of is Guns N Roses. I can't speak for the rest of the band members but I do recall Axl Rose saying that he wanted to be huge. And they ended producing amazing music....Although we do all what happened to them...

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Surprisingly, it's only $50,000 to have Nas at a private party. Still though, I cant imagine what he would charge to feature on an album...
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[QUOTE="B05T0N"][QUOTE="zabrak999"]

[QUOTE="atst007"]I hope you are an excellent songwriter and have hundreds of millions of dollars if you want to do all of that.22Toothpicks

The record label will fund the album, if things get too out of reach I'll just say sacrafice my payment to fund the album. It'll be hard for them to decline this though. It won't be hundreds of millions of dollars though to create the album, i think the most expensive is like 67 million or something. Ours won't be really all that expensive....The only people that would be expensive would probably be like mariah carey or nas

It would probably be $10,000,000 per track for each of them, not to mention other costs that aren't included. Also, why would Nas or any known artist feature on some unknown band's album that he/they have no connection to?



Yep, it's pricey. The studio one of my friends uses is about $900/min. And it's not the greatest studio either...

$900 to use the studio for 1 minute? wtf how? explain?

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[QUOTE="icarus212001"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="Hallenbeck77"][QUOTE="zabrak999"]

[QUOTE="whodeysay85"]did you even tell us what your band is called so i can know if you ever make it?zabrak999

Never thought of a band name yet, but you'll know who we are though.

A carbon copy of every other mediocre band that's been around for the past 5 years?

No

If you want all of these fantasies of yours to come true then thats what your going to have to become....another ****** mainstream band.

There are plenty of popular bands out there who are really talented. I just got done listening to a band called "Muse". Really good band. WHite STripes are really great too. John Mayer is also really talented. But THose guys are just merely "really popular" bands. I'm aiming to be the biggest band on the planet. But know we won't be another ****** mainstream band like Fall Out Boy, etc. It's hard to explain but I've been listening to rock musis since I was two years old, I know what's good and what's crap. I'm prodigiously confident this album will be amazing if I actually move to LA and get a good band together and we go all the way. I'm telling you, the quality of the music will be astrnomically prestine

If thats your goal then you don't really enjoy music.....you just want to be a star....music isn't about popularity its about the joy of creating it....its something you should enkoy doing and not worry about how popular you become....there is a lot you still need to discover before you even come close to being in a band....based off what your saying you need to give all of this up and just focus on being an engineer.

No dude the music will always come first. I'd rather shoot myself dead than sacrafice the quality in the muisc to sell albums. I just want to be the biggest band on the planet as well. You know Led Zeppelin right? They're were regarded as the biggest band of the 70s AND one of the greatest bands of all time. I'm not saying we'll be one of the greatest, but the muisc will be amazing as it is popular

darksworld1123's right though. Led Zeppelin became the biggest band BIG ACCIDENT. they never set out to do it. it just happened. thats why they are so great. because since that mindset was eliminated, they were able to fully focus on their music, thus being able to become huge. Your goal is different in that you WANT to become famous, and thats where you'll fail. you'll focus so hard on being famous that you're music will suffer. you won't realize it now but it will happen. on top of that, even if the music is great, people won't know what to think of you. you advertise like a mainstream band, eliminating your core audience in that they will think your band is a sell out, and the mainstream won't like you because your not like everyone else. you gotta focus on yourself, and your music. if people like it, cool. if not, no sweat, you made music. THATS how you become big.

One exception I can think of is Guns N Roses. I can't speak for the rest of the band members but I do recall Axl Rose saying that he wanted to be huge. And they ended producing amazing music....Although we do all what happened to them...

sure they were ok, but they were pretty far from being the best.

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[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"][QUOTE="B05T0N"][QUOTE="zabrak999"]

[QUOTE="atst007"]I hope you are an excellent songwriter and have hundreds of millions of dollars if you want to do all of that.Xeros606

The record label will fund the album, if things get too out of reach I'll just say sacrafice my payment to fund the album. It'll be hard for them to decline this though. It won't be hundreds of millions of dollars though to create the album, i think the most expensive is like 67 million or something. Ours won't be really all that expensive....The only people that would be expensive would probably be like mariah carey or nas

It would probably be $10,000,000 per track for each of them, not to mention other costs that aren't included. Also, why would Nas or any known artist feature on some unknown band's album that he/they have no connection to?



Yep, it's pricey. The studio one of my friends uses is about $900/min. And it's not the greatest studio either...

$900 to use the studio for 1 minute? wtf how? explain?

Editing, Recording, Materializing, Mixing, Labor Costs. All thing's considered, pretty cheap.

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One exception I can think of is Guns N Roses. I can't speak for the rest of the band members but I do recall Axl Rose saying that he wanted to be huge. And they ended producing amazing music....Although we do all what happened to them...

Axl IS huge. last I checked, wasn't he about 250 lbs?

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[QUOTE="icarus212001"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="Hallenbeck77"][QUOTE="zabrak999"]

[QUOTE="whodeysay85"]did you even tell us what your band is called so i can know if you ever make it?zabrak999

Never thought of a band name yet, but you'll know who we are though.

A carbon copy of every other mediocre band that's been around for the past 5 years?

No

If you want all of these fantasies of yours to come true then thats what your going to have to become....another ****** mainstream band.

There are plenty of popular bands out there who are really talented. I just got done listening to a band called "Muse". Really good band. WHite STripes are really great too. John Mayer is also really talented. But THose guys are just merely "really popular" bands. I'm aiming to be the biggest band on the planet. But know we won't be another ****** mainstream band like Fall Out Boy, etc. It's hard to explain but I've been listening to rock musis since I was two years old, I know what's good and what's crap. I'm prodigiously confident this album will be amazing if I actually move to LA and get a good band together and we go all the way. I'm telling you, the quality of the music will be astrnomically prestine

If thats your goal then you don't really enjoy music.....you just want to be a star....music isn't about popularity its about the joy of creating it....its something you should enkoy doing and not worry about how popular you become....there is a lot you still need to discover before you even come close to being in a band....based off what your saying you need to give all of this up and just focus on being an engineer.

No dude the music will always come first. I'd rather shoot myself dead than sacrafice the quality in the muisc to sell albums. I just want to be the biggest band on the planet as well. You know Led Zeppelin right? They're were regarded as the biggest band of the 70s AND one of the greatest bands of all time. I'm not saying we'll be one of the greatest, but the muisc will be amazing as it is popular

darksworld1123's right though. Led Zeppelin became the biggest band BIG ACCIDENT. they never set out to do it. it just happened. thats why they are so great. because since that mindset was eliminated, they were able to fully focus on their music, thus being able to become huge. Your goal is different in that you WANT to become famous, and thats where you'll fail. you'll focus so hard on being famous that you're music will suffer. you won't realize it now but it will happen. on top of that, even if the music is great, people won't know what to think of you. you advertise like a mainstream band, eliminating your core audience in that they will think your band is a sell out, and the mainstream won't like you because your not like everyone else. you gotta focus on yourself, and your music. if people like it, cool. if not, no sweat, you made music. THATS how you become big.

One exception I can think of is Guns N Roses. I can't speak for the rest of the band members but I do recall Axl Rose saying that he wanted to be huge. And they ended producing amazing music....Although we do all what happened to them...

Axl Rose was a bad person. :|
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[QUOTE="atst007"]I hope you are an excellent songwriter and have hundreds of millions of dollars if you want to do all of that.icarus212001

The record label will fund the album, if things get too out of reach I'll just say sacrafice my payment to fund the album. It'll be hard for them to decline this though. It won't be hundreds of millions of dollars though to create the album, i think the most expensive is like 67 million or something. Ours won't be really all that expensive....The only people that would be expensive would probably be like mariah carey or nas

It would probably be $10,000,000 per track for each of them, not to mention other costs that aren't included. Also, why would Nas or any known artist feature on some unknown band's album that he/they have no connection to?



Yep, it's pricey. The studio one of my friends uses is about $900/min. And it's not the greatest studio either...

$900 to use the studio for 1 minute? wtf how? explain?

Editing, Recording, Materializing, Mixing, Labor Costs. All thing's considered, pretty cheap.



Yep.

And the even more expensive ones can go up to $3000/min! :O (or so I have heard...)

But hey, his band will be so great I'm sure someone will donate around $14M to let him make a 9-track LP...
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[QUOTE="zabrak999"]Yeah in 3 years I'm going to be in a big huge rock band. The ideas that I'm coming up with, you know, the music I'm writing now, they're revolutionary, as in nobody so far has came up with these radical ideas I've been coming up with. I'll admit, not so much as far as the actual music is concerned, but how it'll be recorded. The recording techniques that I'm coming up with in my mind are amazing; I can't believe people hasn't used them before, or at least to the greater extents that I'm imagining. The music will be amazing though, every song that will be made on the album could be a potential hit single, that's my goal - to create this masterpiece of an album where every song on the album will be amazing. Heck, I'm almost to the point where I could be considered overly-confident that the music will be very popular. I also know that I can't look at the music objectively, but I'm telling you it'll be incredible. Also don't think that music will be a lot like (not all, but a lot) the generic garbage that's out today, I mean it'll be as popular, if not more popular than the most popular band that's out there today, but overall the quality of the music will be better than your favorite band that emerged in the 21st century so far.

In terms of the overall sound of the album I can't really categorize it into one genre - you'll hear influences from Piano Rock, Funk Rock, Hard Rock, Alternative Rock, Punk Rock, Pop Rock, Heavy Metal, Avant-Garde (which is a really weird type of music), even elements of Eastern Indian music, Country, and Rap. I'm not saying each song will have these genres in it, but you'll hear subtle sounds from one or two diff genres in some songs. Or a song that is just one genre - like this Heavy Metal song I'm coming up with (which is influenced by various forms of Metal.)


The album will have several guest musicians and random people that are not in any way associated with the music industry, here's an incomplete list:

Mariah Carey; she'll do guest vocals on a track that is heavily influenced by The Stones' ****c "gimme shelter". I need her voice because she can sing the highest notes without even trying, a voice like that is essential for the song I'm coming up with. It's NOT confirmed that she'll be on the album, I still have to contact her directly or contact her record label. I'm confident it'll happen though, if she is unsure about the whole thing I'll just triple the initial pay, the extra expenses will be taken out of my pay.

Nas; genius lyricist and one of the most respected rappers, he created one of the most influential albums of all time. I'm not saying he's the end-all be-all rapper or whatever, but he's amazing and like Mariah Carey, I'll double or triple the initial pay if he's cautious because It's NOT confirmed that he'll be on the album, I still have to contact him directly or contact his record label.

Steve Downes; (the voice actor for Master Chief in the popular Halo videogame franchise.) I need him because I need a really tough sounding dude to deliver a funny/witty line of spoken vocals on the album. I've contacted him and at this point it's just a matter of time, he said he'd be willing to help and is just waiting for this project to take off.

Eddie Kramer; he'll be the audio engineer, he has worked with Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, David Bowie, Eric Clapton, and much more. I still have to contact him but he still works with groups, a lot of which of lately have not been exclusively big-name groups, which gives me hope that he'll be willing to work with me.

Ridley Scott/ James Cameron; Who have separately made movies like Alien, Blade Runner, Gladiator, Black Hawk Down, American gangster, Titanic, the Terminator series, and much more. My goal is to get them to create one or two videos. They also worked with music videos before; I've yet to contact them.

Storm Thorgerson; he'll be the art designer for our album cover. He has worked with many more bands than Pink Floyd, but he's probably best known as the guy who created all those iconic Pink Floyd album covers. I called his house and at this point it's just a matter of time, he said he'd be willing to help and is waiting for this project to take off.

Steve Wickham; He worked with U2, Bob Dylan, Elvis Costello, and more. He's recognized as one of the great fiddle players alive, and will be compose violin work on the album. I've contacted him and at this point it's just a matter of time, he said he'd be willing to help and is waiting for this project to take off.

Teddy Andreadis; his main contribution is with Guns N Roses, although never an official member he has worked with the band and toured with him, he also worked with Michael Jackson, and Alice Cooper. He'll compose harmonica work on the album. I still have to contact him, but he's not really that hard to obtain like the people I mentioned before, so no offense to him or anything but it really won't be that hard at all.

Anoushka Shankar; Daughter of Eastern Indian music legend Ravi Shankar, Anoushka Shankar will compose Eastern Indian Sitar music on the album, she's an amazing sitarist and would be perfect for the track I'm coming up with. , I contacted her manager and he said that she'd love to, however she'd have to hear the music first. So once this project takes off in fall of '08/early '09 we'll send her the material and easily get her to hop onboard.

Hundreds of random people off the street; basically in the Avant-Garde song it'll depict a young boy and it's like a coming-of-age kind of piece, where you like listen to him being born and he like grows up and dies. It's weird but it'll be really cool. It's hard to explain but if you're interested in what it'll sound like just Wikipedia 'Avant-
Garde' sometime. Or listen to the Beatles' Revolution 9 to get a better understanding. Yeah, I'll need hundreds of people since the dude will of course meet all these people (just like anybody else would) since it really is this guy being born and lives a life under 5 min, it'll be hard but I could pull it off. This would not be on its own song. It would be a hidden song after the last song on the album.

I've also contacted every stadium, convention center, and mall, also every major city in every state in the USA. I'm also currently on an on-going quest on contacting every university in our nation. I'm doing/did this because I want to heavily promote the album, I mean heavily promote the album. I'm telling you this WILL be huge. I can't tell you the major record label that I want, although one of their buildings is located on Los Angeles. That's the only hint that I can give you.
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I was about to say 'Good job' until you started listing off these random 'celebrities' to take part in your albums. You need to be slapped. I hope your dreams fail and all hope in your life shatters into a million ungatherable pieces.

thats f'd up yo

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If you care that much about being established and respected, and not just creating another sythetic chapter in the music industry, why don't you just drop all the big names that you're probably never end up getting as long as you're NOT in the limelight, and get on down to making yourself authentic to whatever your intentions are with your music, and let that carry instead of all of this ambitious (but mostly shroddily thought out) planing?
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[QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="icarus212001"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="Hallenbeck77"][QUOTE="zabrak999"]

[QUOTE="whodeysay85"]did you even tell us what your band is called so i can know if you ever make it?icarus212001

Never thought of a band name yet, but you'll know who we are though.

A carbon copy of every other mediocre band that's been around for the past 5 years?

No

If you want all of these fantasies of yours to come true then thats what your going to have to become....another ****** mainstream band.

There are plenty of popular bands out there who are really talented. I just got done listening to a band called "Muse". Really good band. WHite STripes are really great too. John Mayer is also really talented. But THose guys are just merely "really popular" bands. I'm aiming to be the biggest band on the planet. But know we won't be another ****** mainstream band like Fall Out Boy, etc. It's hard to explain but I've been listening to rock musis since I was two years old, I know what's good and what's crap. I'm prodigiously confident this album will be amazing if I actually move to LA and get a good band together and we go all the way. I'm telling you, the quality of the music will be astrnomically prestine

If thats your goal then you don't really enjoy music.....you just want to be a star....music isn't about popularity its about the joy of creating it....its something you should enkoy doing and not worry about how popular you become....there is a lot you still need to discover before you even come close to being in a band....based off what your saying you need to give all of this up and just focus on being an engineer.

No dude the music will always come first. I'd rather shoot myself dead than sacrafice the quality in the muisc to sell albums. I just want to be the biggest band on the planet as well. You know Led Zeppelin right? They're were regarded as the biggest band of the 70s AND one of the greatest bands of all time. I'm not saying we'll be one of the greatest, but the muisc will be amazing as it is popular

darksworld1123's right though. Led Zeppelin became the biggest band BIG ACCIDENT. they never set out to do it. it just happened. thats why they are so great. because since that mindset was eliminated, they were able to fully focus on their music, thus being able to become huge. Your goal is different in that you WANT to become famous, and thats where you'll fail. you'll focus so hard on being famous that you're music will suffer. you won't realize it now but it will happen. on top of that, even if the music is great, people won't know what to think of you. you advertise like a mainstream band, eliminating your core audience in that they will think your band is a sell out, and the mainstream won't like you because your not like everyone else. you gotta focus on yourself, and your music. if people like it, cool. if not, no sweat, you made music. THATS how you become big.

One exception I can think of is Guns N Roses. I can't speak for the rest of the band members but I do recall Axl Rose saying that he wanted to be huge. And they ended producing amazing music....Although we do all what happened to them...

sure they were ok, but they were pretty far from being the best.

Not THE BEST, but they made music that is widely accepted as some of the greatest ever.

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Good Luck
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Did you really expect people to believe you without any proof at all? For all we know this could just be one big joke.
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[QUOTE="icarus212001"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="icarus212001"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="Hallenbeck77"][QUOTE="zabrak999"]

[QUOTE="whodeysay85"]did you even tell us what your band is called so i can know if you ever make it?zabrak999

Never thought of a band name yet, but you'll know who we are though.

A carbon copy of every other mediocre band that's been around for the past 5 years?

No

If you want all of these fantasies of yours to come true then thats what your going to have to become....another ****** mainstream band.

There are plenty of popular bands out there who are really talented. I just got done listening to a band called "Muse". Really good band. WHite STripes are really great too. John Mayer is also really talented. But THose guys are just merely "really popular" bands. I'm aiming to be the biggest band on the planet. But know we won't be another ****** mainstream band like Fall Out Boy, etc. It's hard to explain but I've been listening to rock musis since I was two years old, I know what's good and what's crap. I'm prodigiously confident this album will be amazing if I actually move to LA and get a good band together and we go all the way. I'm telling you, the quality of the music will be astrnomically prestine

If thats your goal then you don't really enjoy music.....you just want to be a star....music isn't about popularity its about the joy of creating it....its something you should enkoy doing and not worry about how popular you become....there is a lot you still need to discover before you even come close to being in a band....based off what your saying you need to give all of this up and just focus on being an engineer.

No dude the music will always come first. I'd rather shoot myself dead than sacrafice the quality in the muisc to sell albums. I just want to be the biggest band on the planet as well. You know Led Zeppelin right? They're were regarded as the biggest band of the 70s AND one of the greatest bands of all time. I'm not saying we'll be one of the greatest, but the muisc will be amazing as it is popular

darksworld1123's right though. Led Zeppelin became the biggest band BIG ACCIDENT. they never set out to do it. it just happened. thats why they are so great. because since that mindset was eliminated, they were able to fully focus on their music, thus being able to become huge. Your goal is different in that you WANT to become famous, and thats where you'll fail. you'll focus so hard on being famous that you're music will suffer. you won't realize it now but it will happen. on top of that, even if the music is great, people won't know what to think of you. you advertise like a mainstream band, eliminating your core audience in that they will think your band is a sell out, and the mainstream won't like you because your not like everyone else. you gotta focus on yourself, and your music. if people like it, cool. if not, no sweat, you made music. THATS how you become big.

One exception I can think of is Guns N Roses. I can't speak for the rest of the band members but I do recall Axl Rose saying that he wanted to be huge. And they ended producing amazing music....Although we do all what happened to them...

sure they were ok, but they were pretty far from being the best.

Not THE BEST, but they made music that is widely accepted as some of the greatest ever.

Which is exactly what he said.
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Cool, but dude I really don't think this is going to happen but you might become pretty well know in a certain city.
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[QUOTE="icarus212001"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="icarus212001"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="Hallenbeck77"][QUOTE="zabrak999"]

[QUOTE="whodeysay85"]did you even tell us what your band is called so i can know if you ever make it?zabrak999

Never thought of a band name yet, but you'll know who we are though.

A carbon copy of every other mediocre band that's been around for the past 5 years?

No

If you want all of these fantasies of yours to come true then thats what your going to have to become....another ****** mainstream band.

There are plenty of popular bands out there who are really talented. I just got done listening to a band called "Muse". Really good band. WHite STripes are really great too. John Mayer is also really talented. But THose guys are just merely "really popular" bands. I'm aiming to be the biggest band on the planet. But know we won't be another ****** mainstream band like Fall Out Boy, etc. It's hard to explain but I've been listening to rock musis since I was two years old, I know what's good and what's crap. I'm prodigiously confident this album will be amazing if I actually move to LA and get a good band together and we go all the way. I'm telling you, the quality of the music will be astrnomically prestine

If thats your goal then you don't really enjoy music.....you just want to be a star....music isn't about popularity its about the joy of creating it....its something you should enkoy doing and not worry about how popular you become....there is a lot you still need to discover before you even come close to being in a band....based off what your saying you need to give all of this up and just focus on being an engineer.

No dude the music will always come first. I'd rather shoot myself dead than sacrafice the quality in the muisc to sell albums. I just want to be the biggest band on the planet as well. You know Led Zeppelin right? They're were regarded as the biggest band of the 70s AND one of the greatest bands of all time. I'm not saying we'll be one of the greatest, but the muisc will be amazing as it is popular

darksworld1123's right though. Led Zeppelin became the biggest band BIG ACCIDENT. they never set out to do it. it just happened. thats why they are so great. because since that mindset was eliminated, they were able to fully focus on their music, thus being able to become huge. Your goal is different in that you WANT to become famous, and thats where you'll fail. you'll focus so hard on being famous that you're music will suffer. you won't realize it now but it will happen. on top of that, even if the music is great, people won't know what to think of you. you advertise like a mainstream band, eliminating your core audience in that they will think your band is a sell out, and the mainstream won't like you because your not like everyone else. you gotta focus on yourself, and your music. if people like it, cool. if not, no sweat, you made music. THATS how you become big.

One exception I can think of is Guns N Roses. I can't speak for the rest of the band members but I do recall Axl Rose saying that he wanted to be huge. And they ended producing amazing music....Although we do all what happened to them...

sure they were ok, but they were pretty far from being the best.

Not THE BEST, but they made music that is widely accepted as some of the greatest ever.

Yeah, but thats far different than YOUR goal. I think its better if you shift your focus a little bit. Instead of being the greatest band ever, make the best MUSIC ever. you'll be remembered more for it, which is better than being the biggest band ever...because that phrase is tossed around A LOT nowadays (to the point where you can only hold that slot for about...hm....5 minutes until the record company loses interest) plus you have too many "guests" in your album. what your thinking of is becoming the greatest PRODUCEr. that, i can see, but not a band. because if you have too many guests in you music, you'll lose install base, and overall meaning in your music. it'll be more of a "oh wow its mariah carrey! who's that band she's with? oh well." *continues to stare at mariah in all her carrey-ness*

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Did you really expect people to believe you without any proof at all? For all we know this could just be one big joke.atst007

After seeing this thread go on for so long, I'm still laughing.

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If you care that much about being established and respected, and not just creating another sythetic chapter in the music industry, why don't you just drop all the big names that you're probably never end up getting as long as you're NOT in the limelight, and get on down to making yourself authentic to whatever your intentions are with your music, and let that carry instead of all of this ambitious (but mostly shroddily thought out) planing? jetpower3

I'm not going to sell out. I'd rather kill myself before I create "music" that I would not want to create. Sure in today's world to be THE BIGGEST You'd have to create absolute *** (see MCR, FOB) but I'm telling you my band will change it. I can't explain it but all I can say is "You'll see"

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you would certainly be the first famous musician to ever brag about it on a OT Forum:roll:

compete->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqP0WNpojFM

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[QUOTE="jetpower3"]If you care that much about being established and respected, and not just creating another sythetic chapter in the music industry, why don't you just drop all the big names that you're probably never end up getting as long as you're NOT in the limelight, and get on down to making yourself authentic to whatever your intentions are with your music, and let that carry instead of all of this ambitious (but mostly shroddily thought out) planing? zabrak999

I'm not going to sell out. I'd rather kill myself before I create "music" that I would not want to create. Sure in today's world to be THE BIGGEST You'd have to create absolute *** (see MCR, FOB) but I'm telling you my band will change it. I can't explain it but all I can say is "You'll see"

Good luck sir Isureamhumbleandamathousandtimesbetterthanyoualot.
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you would certainly be the first famous musician to ever brag about it on a OT Forum:roll:

compete->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqP0WNpojFM

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Is your name John Zorn?
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[QUOTE="whodeysay85"]did you even tell us what your band is called so i can know if you ever make it?icarus212001

Never thought of a band name yet, but you'll know who we are though.

A carbon copy of every other mediocre band that's been around for the past 5 years?

No

If you want all of these fantasies of yours to come true then thats what your going to have to become....another ****** mainstream band.

There are plenty of popular bands out there who are really talented. I just got done listening to a band called "Muse". Really good band. WHite STripes are really great too. John Mayer is also really talented. But THose guys are just merely "really popular" bands. I'm aiming to be the biggest band on the planet. But know we won't be another ****** mainstream band like Fall Out Boy, etc. It's hard to explain but I've been listening to rock musis since I was two years old, I know what's good and what's crap. I'm prodigiously confident this album will be amazing if I actually move to LA and get a good band together and we go all the way. I'm telling you, the quality of the music will be astrnomically prestine

If thats your goal then you don't really enjoy music.....you just want to be a star....music isn't about popularity its about the joy of creating it....its something you should enkoy doing and not worry about how popular you become....there is a lot you still need to discover before you even come close to being in a band....based off what your saying you need to give all of this up and just focus on being an engineer.

No dude the music will always come first. I'd rather shoot myself dead than sacrafice the quality in the muisc to sell albums. I just want to be the biggest band on the planet as well. You know Led Zeppelin right? They're were regarded as the biggest band of the 70s AND one of the greatest bands of all time. I'm not saying we'll be one of the greatest, but the muisc will be amazing as it is popular

darksworld1123's right though. Led Zeppelin became the biggest band BIG ACCIDENT. they never set out to do it. it just happened. thats why they are so great. because since that mindset was eliminated, they were able to fully focus on their music, thus being able to become huge. Your goal is different in that you WANT to become famous, and thats where you'll fail. you'll focus so hard on being famous that you're music will suffer. you won't realize it now but it will happen. on top of that, even if the music is great, people won't know what to think of you. you advertise like a mainstream band, eliminating your core audience in that they will think your band is a sell out, and the mainstream won't like you because your not like everyone else. you gotta focus on yourself, and your music. if people like it, cool. if not, no sweat, you made music. THATS how you become big.

One exception I can think of is Guns N Roses. I can't speak for the rest of the band members but I do recall Axl Rose saying that he wanted to be huge. And they ended producing amazing music....Although we do all what happened to them...

sure they were ok, but they were pretty far from being the best.

Not THE BEST, but they made music that is widely accepted as some of the greatest ever.

Yeah, but thats far different than YOUR goal. I think its better if you shift your focus a little bit. Instead of being the greatest band ever, make the best MUSIC ever. you'll be remembered more for it, which is better than being the biggest band ever...because that phrase is tossed around A LOT nowadays (to the point where you can only hold that slot for about...hm....5 minutes until the record company loses interest) plus you have too many "guests" in your album. what your thinking of is becoming the greatest PRODUCEr. that, i can see, but not a band. because if you have too many guests in you music, you'll lose install base, and overall meaning in your music. it'll be more of a "oh wow its mariah carrey! who's that band she's with? oh well." *continues to stare at mariah in all her carrey-ness*

Okay the guest musicians. Again listen to this track called "Gimmie SHelter". Once you listen to that track (just youtube it or something) you'll realize that the Soul singer on that track is not the stand out music artist on there. If I we are good too we'll be the main attraction, if we suck then they would and ya you're right, we would crash and burn. And like I said before the music im' creating is amazing, the ideas that i'm coming up with. Again I'd rather commit suicide than to make music for the masses. It'll be amazing and huge, I can't explain it but please trust me.

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[QUOTE="icarus212001"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="icarus212001"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="icarus212001"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="Hallenbeck77"][QUOTE="zabrak999"]

[QUOTE="whodeysay85"]did you even tell us what your band is called so i can know if you ever make it?zabrak999

Never thought of a band name yet, but you'll know who we are though.

A carbon copy of every other mediocre band that's been around for the past 5 years?

No

If you want all of these fantasies of yours to come true then thats what your going to have to become....another ****** mainstream band.

There are plenty of popular bands out there who are really talented. I just got done listening to a band called "Muse". Really good band. WHite STripes are really great too. John Mayer is also really talented. But THose guys are just merely "really popular" bands. I'm aiming to be the biggest band on the planet. But know we won't be another ****** mainstream band like Fall Out Boy, etc. It's hard to explain but I've been listening to rock musis since I was two years old, I know what's good and what's crap. I'm prodigiously confident this album will be amazing if I actually move to LA and get a good band together and we go all the way. I'm telling you, the quality of the music will be astrnomically prestine

If thats your goal then you don't really enjoy music.....you just want to be a star....music isn't about popularity its about the joy of creating it....its something you should enkoy doing and not worry about how popular you become....there is a lot you still need to discover before you even come close to being in a band....based off what your saying you need to give all of this up and just focus on being an engineer.

No dude the music will always come first. I'd rather shoot myself dead than sacrafice the quality in the muisc to sell albums. I just want to be the biggest band on the planet as well. You know Led Zeppelin right? They're were regarded as the biggest band of the 70s AND one of the greatest bands of all time. I'm not saying we'll be one of the greatest, but the muisc will be amazing as it is popular

darksworld1123's right though. Led Zeppelin became the biggest band BIG ACCIDENT. they never set out to do it. it just happened. thats why they are so great. because since that mindset was eliminated, they were able to fully focus on their music, thus being able to become huge. Your goal is different in that you WANT to become famous, and thats where you'll fail. you'll focus so hard on being famous that you're music will suffer. you won't realize it now but it will happen. on top of that, even if the music is great, people won't know what to think of you. you advertise like a mainstream band, eliminating your core audience in that they will think your band is a sell out, and the mainstream won't like you because your not like everyone else. you gotta focus on yourself, and your music. if people like it, cool. if not, no sweat, you made music. THATS how you become big.

One exception I can think of is Guns N Roses. I can't speak for the rest of the band members but I do recall Axl Rose saying that he wanted to be huge. And they ended producing amazing music....Although we do all what happened to them...

sure they were ok, but they were pretty far from being the best.

Not THE BEST, but they made music that is widely accepted as some of the greatest ever.

Yeah, but thats far different than YOUR goal. I think its better if you shift your focus a little bit. Instead of being the greatest band ever, make the best MUSIC ever. you'll be remembered more for it, which is better than being the biggest band ever...because that phrase is tossed around A LOT nowadays (to the point where you can only hold that slot for about...hm....5 minutes until the record company loses interest) plus you have too many "guests" in your album. what your thinking of is becoming the greatest PRODUCEr. that, i can see, but not a band. because if you have too many guests in you music, you'll lose install base, and overall meaning in your music. it'll be more of a "oh wow its mariah carrey! who's that band she's with? oh well." *continues to stare at mariah in all her carrey-ness*

Okay the guest musicians. Again listen to this track called "Gimmie SHelter". Once you listen to that track (just youtube it or something) you'll realize that the Soul singer on that track is not the stand out music artist on there. If I we are good too we'll be the main attraction, if we suck then they would and ya you're right, we would crash and burn. And like I said before the music im' creating is amazing, the ideas that i'm coming up with. Again I'd rather commit suicide than to make music for the masses. It'll be amazing and huge, I can't explain it but please trust me.

Which is what you're doing. :roll:
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[QUOTE="whodeysay85"]did you even tell us what your band is called so i can know if you ever make it?jaydough

Never thought of a band name yet, but you'll know who we are though.

A carbon copy of every other mediocre band that's been around for the past 5 years?

No

If you want all of these fantasies of yours to come true then thats what your going to have to become....another ****** mainstream band.

There are plenty of popular bands out there who are really talented. I just got done listening to a band called "Muse". Really good band. WHite STripes are really great too. John Mayer is also really talented. But THose guys are just merely "really popular" bands. I'm aiming to be the biggest band on the planet. But know we won't be another ****** mainstream band like Fall Out Boy, etc. It's hard to explain but I've been listening to rock musis since I was two years old, I know what's good and what's crap. I'm prodigiously confident this album will be amazing if I actually move to LA and get a good band together and we go all the way. I'm telling you, the quality of the music will be astrnomically prestine

If thats your goal then you don't really enjoy music.....you just want to be a star....music isn't about popularity its about the joy of creating it....its something you should enkoy doing and not worry about how popular you become....there is a lot you still need to discover before you even come close to being in a band....based off what your saying you need to give all of this up and just focus on being an engineer.

No dude the music will always come first. I'd rather shoot myself dead than sacrafice the quality in the muisc to sell albums. I just want to be the biggest band on the planet as well. You know Led Zeppelin right? They're were regarded as the biggest band of the 70s AND one of the greatest bands of all time. I'm not saying we'll be one of the greatest, but the muisc will be amazing as it is popular

darksworld1123's right though. Led Zeppelin became the biggest band BIG ACCIDENT. they never set out to do it. it just happened. thats why they are so great. because since that mindset was eliminated, they were able to fully focus on their music, thus being able to become huge. Your goal is different in that you WANT to become famous, and thats where you'll fail. you'll focus so hard on being famous that you're music will suffer. you won't realize it now but it will happen. on top of that, even if the music is great, people won't know what to think of you. you advertise like a mainstream band, eliminating your core audience in that they will think your band is a sell out, and the mainstream won't like you because your not like everyone else. you gotta focus on yourself, and your music. if people like it, cool. if not, no sweat, you made music. THATS how you become big.

One exception I can think of is Guns N Roses. I can't speak for the rest of the band members but I do recall Axl Rose saying that he wanted to be huge. And they ended producing amazing music....Although we do all what happened to them...

sure they were ok, but they were pretty far from being the best.

Not THE BEST, but they made music that is widely accepted as some of the greatest ever.

Yeah, but thats far different than YOUR goal. I think its better if you shift your focus a little bit. Instead of being the greatest band ever, make the best MUSIC ever. you'll be remembered more for it, which is better than being the biggest band ever...because that phrase is tossed around A LOT nowadays (to the point where you can only hold that slot for about...hm....5 minutes until the record company loses interest) plus you have too many "guests" in your album. what your thinking of is becoming the greatest PRODUCEr. that, i can see, but not a band. because if you have too many guests in you music, you'll lose install base, and overall meaning in your music. it'll be more of a "oh wow its mariah carrey! who's that band she's with? oh well." *continues to stare at mariah in all her carrey-ness*

Okay the guest musicians. Again listen to this track called "Gimmie SHelter". Once you listen to that track (just youtube it or something) you'll realize that the Soul singer on that track is not the stand out music artist on there. If I we are good too we'll be the main attraction, if we suck then they would and ya you're right, we would crash and burn. And like I said before the music im' creating is amazing, the ideas that i'm coming up with. Again I'd rather commit suicide than to make music for the masses. It'll be amazing and huge, I can't explain it but please trust me.

Which is what you're doing. :roll:

I hate to bring it up but,,, how old are you?

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[QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="zabrak999"][QUOTE="Hallenbeck77"][QUOTE="zabrak999"]

[QUOTE="whodeysay85"]did you even tell us what your band is called so i can know if you ever make it?icarus212001

Never thought of a band name yet, but you'll know who we are though.

A carbon copy of every other mediocre band that's been around for the past 5 years?

No

If you want all of these fantasies of yours to come true then thats what your going to have to become....another ****** mainstream band.

There are plenty of popular bands out there who are really talented. I just got done listening to a band called "Muse". Really good band. WHite STripes are really great too. John Mayer is also really talented. But THose guys are just merely "really popular" bands. I'm aiming to be the biggest band on the planet. But know we won't be another ****** mainstream band like Fall Out Boy, etc. It's hard to explain but I've been listening to rock musis since I was two years old, I know what's good and what's crap. I'm prodigiously confident this album will be amazing if I actually move to LA and get a good band together and we go all the way. I'm telling you, the quality of the music will be astrnomically prestine

If thats your goal then you don't really enjoy music.....you just want to be a star....music isn't about popularity its about the joy of creating it....its something you should enkoy doing and not worry about how popular you become....there is a lot you still need to discover before you even come close to being in a band....based off what your saying you need to give all of this up and just focus on being an engineer.

No dude the music will always come first. I'd rather shoot myself dead than sacrafice the quality in the muisc to sell albums. I just want to be the biggest band on the planet as well. You know Led Zeppelin right? They're were regarded as the biggest band of the 70s AND one of the greatest bands of all time. I'm not saying we'll be one of the greatest, but the muisc will be amazing as it is popular

darksworld1123's right though. Led Zeppelin became the biggest band BIG ACCIDENT. they never set out to do it. it just happened. thats why they are so great. because since that mindset was eliminated, they were able to fully focus on their music, thus being able to become huge. Your goal is different in that you WANT to become famous, and thats where you'll fail. you'll focus so hard on being famous that you're music will suffer. you won't realize it now but it will happen. on top of that, even if the music is great, people won't know what to think of you. you advertise like a mainstream band, eliminating your core audience in that they will think your band is a sell out, and the mainstream won't like you because your not like everyone else. you gotta focus on yourself, and your music. if people like it, cool. if not, no sweat, you made music. THATS how you become big.

That's not true at all. You have to want to succeed if you're ever going to make it, or else you'd be best just pursuing music as a hobbie. It's one thing to have that kind of a mind set, and then becoming famous and being totally oblivoius that this as happened to you (which will lead to misery later on in your life, no doubt), or actively pursuing such a dream while still under the name of love for music, with the intent to rock the world, and getting the largest possible audience for both your music and your underlying message you have for the world. Most of the members of Led Zeppelin were already well established by the time the band got started, and while I'm not saying that they went out and played solely for fame and riches, they certainly wanted to have something going for themselves, and they ended up having it in the end.

As for playing music and wanting to be famous/rich, there is nothing wrong with that goal, and many, many, many rock musicians have started out with such a dream. You just have to stay authentic to yourself and just actively pursue how to best get yourself out there, and there's no way you can say that you cannot mix the two. And for your comment on the mainstream/core audience, although they have shown preferences for music that may be quite similar, they are no doubt open to new and exciting new ideas from both bands and genres as a whole (how do you think the whole current music scene as it is today got to where it was today without that?). Core audiences are often formed from members of the mainstream that have taken a greater interest to the band/artist in general, and you can still apply to both without degrading yourself in the least bit. All you have to do is give the people what they want, and more often than not, you can tell them what they want, as they often don't even know.

Of course, you can think what you want, and I won't hold you to it. I just wanted to say that the music industry isn't as black and white as you might think.

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[QUOTE="jetpower3"]If you care that much about being established and respected, and not just creating another sythetic chapter in the music industry, why don't you just drop all the big names that you're probably never end up getting as long as you're NOT in the limelight, and get on down to making yourself authentic to whatever your intentions are with your music, and let that carry instead of all of this ambitious (but mostly shroddily thought out) planing? zabrak999

I'm not going to sell out. I'd rather kill myself before I create "music" that I would not want to create. Sure in today's world to be THE BIGGEST You'd have to create absolute *** (see MCR, FOB) but I'm telling you my band will change it. I can't explain it but all I can say is "You'll see"

I didn't say you were going to sell out. I just said that you should try to not use large established names, which sounds a bit like a marketing ploy, and instead use your "imminent" success to bring new people you might know of that calibur to the forefront, as there are many great musicians out there who haven't been able to strive to make a name for themselves yet, but if you know of any and would like to take them along with you, I think that would be greatly appreciated.

And as for the comment on today's music, there is bad music today just as there was bad music yesterday, and while rock, R &B, and its derivitives might not be as prominent as they once were, they still have a very strong presence. Sure, it might not be the Love and Peace Woodstock era, but if you are so keen on restarting that mind state, then for all means go for it. But you probably will not be able to do it with all of those names on the album right off the bat, and the public, no matter what you may think, may view that as just a synthetic attempt at becoming famous.

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So you think you're going to create revolutionary music by imitating a bunch of other big name musicians, most of whom aren't very good composers? Well, good luck, I guess. But I don't share your confidence...
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So you think you're going to create revolutionary music by imitating a bunch of other big name musicians, most of whom aren't very good composers? Well, good luck, I guess. But I don't share your confidence...pianist

Hell, a large number of them aren't even what you would consider active composers.

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So you think you're going to create revolutionary music by imitating a bunch of other big name musicians, most of whom aren't very good composers? Well, good luck, I guess. But I don't share your confidence...pianist
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I thought you were serious until you started naming celebrities. I can't believe you put so much effort into this lame joke :|