In terms of musical talent, prog rock is the best!

so...who's going to see Rush later this year?JoshXXXXX

I hope I can:)

film-guy just wikipedia'd prog music and now thinks he's an authority on it. it would explain why he mentioned godspeed you! and silver mt.nuclearaddict

The truth is, the genre description is so general that there are confusing choices thrown in all the time.  Heck, I'm willing to accept Godspeed. There are bigger issues in this world.

I can't stand progressive music.redtiger676

why?

so...who's going to see Rush later this year?JoshXXXXX

so...who's going to see Rush later this year?JoshXXXXX

I wish I could.:(

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]

there are many prog rock bands doing great music today, here are some examples of modern prog

spocks beard
the flower kings
the tangent
transatlantic
frost
deluge grander
estradasphere
godpseed you black emperor
a silver mount zion
kayo dot
sleepytime gorilla museum
wolverine

anyone know these bands?

3DayFinisher

now you do:D

[QUOTE="JoshXXXXX"]so...who's going to see Rush later this year?Carlos_Santana

[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="JoshXXXXX"]so...who's going to see Rush later this year?lemonfreshpanda

film-guy just wikipedia'd prog music and now thinks he's an authority on it. it would explain why he mentioned godspeed you! and silver mt.nuclearaddict

actually I have been listening to prog rock for about 8 years, I did not wiki them ( we all know how accurate that site is) if I want to know a bands classification, I usually go to progarchives ( a good site for reliable info) anyway why would you think I get info from wikipedia?

[QUOTE="nuclearaddict"]film-guy just wikipedia'd prog music and now thinks he's an authority on it. it would explain why he mentioned godspeed you! and silver mt.lemonfreshpanda

The truth is, the genre description is so general that there are confusing choices thrown in all the time.  Heck, I'm willing to accept Godspeed. There are bigger issues in this world.

prog is very hard to put into diferent sub genres:P

[QUOTE="lemonfreshpanda"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="JoshXXXXX"]so...who's going to see Rush later this year?Carlos_Santana

[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="lemonfreshpanda"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="JoshXXXXX"]so...who's going to see Rush later this year?lemonfreshpanda

[QUOTE="lemonfreshpanda"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="lemonfreshpanda"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="JoshXXXXX"]so...who's going to see Rush later this year?Carlos_Santana

One thing you cannot possibly argue against is that all three musicians are among the very best at their instruments. 

[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="lemonfreshpanda"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="lemonfreshpanda"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="JoshXXXXX"]so...who's going to see Rush later this year?lemonfreshpanda

One thing you cannot possibly argue against is that all three musicians are among the very best at their instruments. 

[QUOTE="lemonfreshpanda"]

[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="lemonfreshpanda"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="lemonfreshpanda"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="JoshXXXXX"]so...who's going to see Rush later this year?Carlos_Santana

One thing you cannot possibly argue against is that all three musicians are among the very best at their instruments.

I mean, Alex Lifeson literally INVENTED whole new chords.  

[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="lemonfreshpanda"]

[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="lemonfreshpanda"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="lemonfreshpanda"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="JoshXXXXX"]so...who's going to see Rush later this year?lemonfreshpanda

One thing you cannot possibly argue against is that all three musicians are among the very best at their instruments.

I mean, Alex Lifeson literally INVENTED whole new chords.  

The Mahavishnu is Jazz Fusion, not prog rock, not even closeNisstyre_56

Mahavishnu Orchestra is considered both. 

i'd say that either classical and/or avant garde/experimental music is the most talented.... there's stuff 100's ofyears old that people will never be able to touch. and with the technology of toda, artist are constantly pushing experimentation forward.

no-one comes close to the sheer genius of bach, beethoven, thighpaulsandra or the hafler trio imo. hell even Can had their whacky experimental bits along with the rest of their krautrock stuff...

saying that, in modern music no-one even comes close to kraftwerk in terms of melody, which is something modern music is drastically lacking, since the 60's it's all been about the vocal. which 99% of the time is meaningless :| 

imo symphonic metal musicians have the most talentdante_123456

Any examples?

[QUOTE="lemonfreshpanda"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="JoshXXXXX"]so...who's going to see Rush later this year?Carlos_Santana

Yeah, I hate Rush too. 

[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="lemonfreshpanda"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="JoshXXXXX"]so...who's going to see Rush later this year?Undoing_Ruin

Yeah, I hate Rush too.

I haven't heard any Rush... OT, I don't care, but teh LL mod? :o

[QUOTE="Undoing_Ruin"]

[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="lemonfreshpanda"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="JoshXXXXX"]so...who's going to see Rush later this year?Flippini

Yeah, I hate Rush too.

I haven't heard any Rush... OT, I don't care, but teh LL mod? :o

What? 

[QUOTE="dante_123456"]imo symphonic metal musicians have the most talentFlippini

Any examples?

Luca Turilli (Rhapsody of Fire), Andre Olbrich (Blind Guardian), Timo Tolkki (Stratovarius), and Thomas Youngblood (Kamelot)

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]Omar Rodriguez FTW.Carlos_Santana

amen brother

with a new Porcupine Tree, Neal Morse, Dream Theater, Symphony X and Rush out this year, prog is strong indeed 

[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="lemonfreshpanda"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="JoshXXXXX"]so...who's going to see Rush later this year?Undoing_Ruin

Yeah, I hate Rush too. 

[QUOTE="Undoing_Ruin"]

[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="lemonfreshpanda"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="JoshXXXXX"]so...who's going to see Rush later this year?EboyLOL

Yeah, I hate Rush too.

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="Undoing_Ruin"]

[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="lemonfreshpanda"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="JoshXXXXX"]so...who's going to see Rush later this year?lemonfreshpanda

Yeah, I hate Rush too.

[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="lemonfreshpanda"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="Undoing_Ruin"]

[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="lemonfreshpanda"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="JoshXXXXX"]so...who's going to see Rush later this year?Carlos_Santana

Yeah, I hate Rush too.

It keeps on skipping my message. I said Pink Floyd is also a somewhat Love/hate band

I noticed you forgot Rush, the greatest Progressive Rock artists of them all.tycoonmike

[QUOTE="tycoonmike"]I noticed you forgot Rush, the greatest Progressive Rock artists of them all.Carlos_Santana

You can critizise other people who like Rush the day you stop liking America. :P 

[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="tycoonmike"]I noticed you forgot Rush, the greatest Progressive Rock artists of them all.lemonfreshpanda

You can critizise other people who like Rush the day you stop liking America. :P 

I was merely pointing my facial expression...and America has some great songwriting in my opinion. I can see why people dislike it...:P

And "talent" isn't based off genre.  It depends on the artist %100.EboyLOL

Did I not just allude to that?

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[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="tycoonmike"]I noticed you forgot Rush, the greatest Progressive Rock artists of them all.Carlos_Santana

You can critizise other people who like Rush the day you stop liking America. :P

I was merely pointing my facial expression...and America has some great songwriting in my opinion. I can see why people dislike it...:P

It keeps on skipping my message. I said Pink Floyd is also a somewhat Love/hate band

Carlos_Santana

That I am not sure about.  I've never met anybody who actively hated Pink Floyd (though maybe these people exist and I'm just sheltered).

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"]And "talent" isn't based off genre.  It depends on the artist %100.LJS9502_basic

Did I not just allude to that?

Prog rock has been going on since the 60s, many believe it to be a dead genre now that progressive metal is making a come back ( aka tool) but prog rock has always shown talent throughout the years, even now prog rock has great bands just waiting to be discovered. A lot of rock music has roots in the blues ( chuck berry, louie armstrong ect) but much of prog rock is different, it is mostly deeply rooted in jazz rather than blues. Bands like King crimson, Jethro tull and early genesis are an example. Most rock music follows guidlines and bands are judged on how skilled their guitarists are in terms of ability and how rocking they are. But progressive rock constanly shows great guitarists who are yet to be matched in talent, here are 2 examples.

Robert fripp ( king crimson)

John Mclaughlin ( mahavishnu orchestra)

nobody, not hendrix, clapton etc has yet matched these two guys imo. prog rock in the mainstream eye may have died out a bit since the 60s-80s, but there are still tons of great bands to find. this site will help you find some of the best in modern music.

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37354&FID=3

prog rock will someday have another go at the mainstream, but right now the genre is focused on talent rather than success.

Film-Guy

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It keeps on skipping my message. I said Pink Floyd is also a somewhat Love/hate band

EboyLOL

That I am not sure about.  I've never met anybody who actively hated Pink Floyd (though maybe these people exist and I'm just sheltered).

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"]

It keeps on skipping my message. I said Pink Floyd is also a somewhat Love/hate band

Carlos_Santana

That I am not sure about.  I've never met anybody who actively hated Pink Floyd (though maybe these people exist and I'm just sheltered).

SON OF A ****, THIS ****ING SIG EDITOR KEEPS SKIPPING MY MESSAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"]

It keeps on skipping my message. I said Pink Floyd is also a somewhat Love/hate band

Carlos_Santana

That I am not sure about.  I've never met anybody who actively hated Pink Floyd (though maybe these people exist and I'm just sheltered).

Any band can and undoubtedly is a love/hate band.  Law of averages guys.

Tool is influenced by all of those bands you mentioned, and they are every bit as talented if not more so. If you don't listen to them, you really should. It's not "metal" at all, and it is extremely progressive.