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Inland GOP mailing depicts Obama's face on food stamp

03:05 PM PDT on Thursday, October 16, 2008

By MICHELLE DeARMOND
The Press-Enterprise

The latest newsletter by an Inland Republican women's group depicts Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama surrounded by a watermelon, ribs and a bucket of fried chicken, prompting outrage in political circles.

The October newsletter by the Chaffey Community Republican Women, Federated says if Obama is elected his image will appear on food stamps -- instead of dollar bills like other presidents. The statement is followed by an illustration of "Obama Bucks" -- a phony $10 bill featuring Obama's face on a donkey's body, labeled "United States Food Stamps."

The GOP newsletter, which was sent to about 200 members and associates of the group by e-mail and regular mail last week, is drawing harsh criticism from members of the political group, elected leaders, party officials and others as racist.

An Inland Republican women's group sent out a newsletter showing this fake $10 "food stamp" with Barack Obama's face on it.

The group's president, Diane Fedele, said she plans to send an apology letter to her members and to apologize at the club's meeting next week. She said she simply wanted to deride a comment Obama made over the summer about how as an African-American he "doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills."

"It was strictly an attempt to point out the outrageousness of his statement. I really don't want to go into it any further," Fedele said in a telephone interview Tuesday. "I absolutely apologize to anyone who was offended. That clearly wasn't my attempt."

Fedele said she got the illustration in a number of chain e-mails and decided to reprint it for her members in the Trumpeter newsletter because she was offended that Obama would draw attention to his own race. She declined to say who sent her the e-mails with the illustration.

She said she doesn't think in racist terms, pointing out she once supported Republican Alan Keyes, an African-American who previously ran for president.

"I didn't see it the way that it's being taken. I never connected," she said. "It was just food to me. It didn't mean anything else."

She said she also wasn't trying to make a statement linking Obama and food stamps, although her introductory text to the illustration connects the two: "Obama talks about all those presidents that got their names on bills. If elected, what bill would he be on????? Food Stamps, what else!"

Club Member Cries

Sheila Raines, an African-American member of the club, was the first person to complain to Fedele about the newsletter. Raines, of San Bernardino, said she has worked hard to try to convince other minorities to join the Republican Party and now she feels betrayed.

"This is what keeps African-Americans from joining the Republican Party," she said. "I'm really hurt. I cried for 45 minutes."


The Obama campaign declined to comment. It's the campaign's policy to not address such attacks, said Gabriel Sanchez, a California spokesman for the campaign.

The newsletter prompted a rebuke from another African-American member of the organization, which is well recognized in the community for its philanthropy and efforts to register and turn out voters in the Rancho Cucamonga and Upland areas.

Acquanetta Warren, a Fontana councilwoman and member of the women's group, said the item is rude and requires a public apology.

"When I opened that up and saw it, I said, 'Why did they do this? It doesn't even reflect our principles and values,' " said Warren, who served as a Republican delegate to the national convention in September and is a regional vice chairwoman for the California Republican Party. "I know a lot of the ladies in that club and they're fantastic. They're volunteers. They really care -- some of them go to my church."

Warren forwarded an electronic version of the newsletter to the California Republican Party headquarters, where officials also were outraged Wednesday and denounced the illustration.

Hector Barajas, the party's press secretary, said the party chairman likely will have a conversation with Fedele, and Barajas will attend the statewide California Federation of Republican Women conference this weekend in Los Angeles to handle any news media there to cover the controversy.

Obama in Turban

The newsletter is not the first such episode Barajas has had to respond to this week. The Sacramento Bee on Wednesday posted an image it said was captured from the Sacramento County GOP Web site that showed Obama in a turban next to Osama bin Laden.

It said: "The difference between Osama and Obama is just a little B.S." The site also encouraged members to "Waterboard Barack Obama," a reference to a torture technique. The Sacramento County party took down the material Tuesday after being criticized.

Mark Kirk, a spokesman for the San Bernardino County GOP chairman, said he expects Chairman Gary Ovitt to also have a talk with Fedele and to attend the group's local meeting next week to discuss the issue with members, although the county GOP has no formal oversight role over the club. Kirk said these kinds of depictions hurt the party's ongoing efforts to reach out to minorities.

"It's very damaging and we're going to take steps to correct this," Kirk said. "Unfortunately, I don't know what you do to correct ignorance like this, but we will do what we can."

Assemblyman Bill Emmerson, R-Redlands, and state Sen. Bob Dutton, R-Rancho Cucamonga, both criticized the illustration as inappropriate and irresponsible.

Dutton pointed out that his wife, a member of the club, is of Mexican heritage and has battled criticism that the Republican Party is not the party for minorities. The club's newsletter undercuts efforts to rise above racism, he said.

"Bias and racial comments and even suggestions are frankly what weakens us as a people. I think we as Americans need to rise above that," he said.

Emmerson said he was extremely offended and sickened by the newsletter.

Barbara O'Connor, director of the Institute for the Study of Politics and the Media at Cal State Sacramento, said it's imperative that people speak out about these kinds of depictions no matter how small the organization. She praised Raines for doing so.

"It's a statement about what is civil discourse and can you get away with doing something under an organizational banner," she said. "You have to cut it out at the root and the root is often small organizations that are local and they then become larger."
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Props to my boy Mr_Puffy for finding this.

Pretty damn disgusting. It would have been somewhat funny if it was just Obama's head on the donkey...but that chicken and watermelon ****? clearly crossed the line and they know it. And the turbin bit? Clealry the GOP wants to be assured of getting as little of the black vote as possible with these situations. they just don't know when to quit.

seems all they have to do is be themselves...be left to their own devices...and idiocy will come.

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u gotta love stereotypes
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u gotta love stereotypesDante2710
all of them?
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Thats just plain stupid.

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People can be so stupid it still amazes me.
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People can be so stupid it still amazes me.Kikouken
I feel bad for the black member of that club that was trying to get other blacks to join up. talk about a big *** slap across the face.
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#7 clicketyclick
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Well if Obama's campaign promise actually was to give all Americans watermelon then everyone would vote for him. Who doesn't like watermelon? This is nothing to cry about.
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Bush has been compared so many times with macaques that I can't even remember, and nobody complained about that.

It seems that once you make a joke with a black person, you're a racist. I'm not saying that there's no racist people that like to be offensive against black people, but there's also people that make critical jokes and that's it.

Not every joke that includes a black person is because of racism.

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I don't get it :?

I'm not trying to be naive so will some body explain it w/o ****ing all over me?

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How did that woman not see how racist it is?

Is she blind?

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[QUOTE="Dante2710"]u gotta love stereotypesDreams-Visions
all of them?

to some extent lol, i use those stereotypes when i want to annoy my buddy(he is black).....but its all good and fun, and at this point, are you shock at the fact that people use this? im not, im so used to hearing about different stereotypes back and forth, that its sort of the norm for me now..
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I don't get it :?

I'm not trying to be naive so will some body explain it w/o ****ing all over me?

DivergeUnify

People make racist stereotypes that black people love KFC/friend chicken and watermelon. Among other things you see on the picture. It's a stereotype.

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I don't get it :?

I'm not trying to be naive so will some body explain it w/o ****ing all over me?

DivergeUnify
as much as i would love to play the devils advocate, i would most likely get modded lol
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

I don't get it :?

I'm not trying to be naive so will some body explain it w/o ****ing all over me?

Lockedge

People make racist stereotypes that black people love KFC/friend chicken and watermelon. Among other things you see on the picture. It's a stereotype.

I got KFC, but I didn't get the part about the watermelon. I've never heard of that sterotype

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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

I don't get it :?

I'm not trying to be naive so will some body explain it w/o ****ing all over me?

Lockedge

People make racist stereotypes that black people love KFC/friend chicken and watermelon. Among other things you see on the picture. It's a stereotype.

I'd wager that most people who eat KFC and buy watermelon are white.

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Bush has been compared so many times with macaques that I can't even remember, and nobody complained about that.

It seems that once you make a joke with a black person, you're a racist. I'm not saying that there's no racist people that like to be offensive against black people, but there's also people that make critical jokes and that's it.

Not every joke that includes a black person is because of racism.

eloyc

I agree. Its just a joke and nothing else. Only racist people can see this as racist. So is it racist to say asians eat rice too or mexicans eat tacos? Obviously not all of them like to eat those thing but is it really something that hurts you? If it does bother you, then you are a weak person. People making fun of what you eat is not racist. Stereotypes are not racist just a good assumption of what certain nationally culture is like, which is not bad or racist.

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[QUOTE="Lockedge"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

I don't get it :?

I'm not trying to be naive so will some body explain it w/o ****ing all over me?

clicketyclick

People make racist stereotypes that black people love KFC/friend chicken and watermelon. Among other things you see on the picture. It's a stereotype.

I'd wager that most people who eat KFC and buy watermelon are white.

I will agree to disagree. Just from my experiences.

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Yeah, and the 95% of black people voting for Obama aren't racist at all.

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Coming from a registered Republican....WTF....Racist asshats.....

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[QUOTE="eloyc"]

Bush has been compared so many times with macaques that I can't even remember, and nobody complained about that.

It seems that once you make a joke with a black person, you're a racist. I'm not saying that there's no racist people that like to be offensive against black people, but there's also people that make critical jokes and that's it.

Not every joke that includes a black person is because of racism.

balindos

I agree. Its just a joke and nothing else. Only racist people can see this as racist. So is it racist to say asians eat rice too or mexicans eat tacos? Obviously not all of them like to eat those thing but is it really something that hurts you? If it does bother you, then you are a weak person. People making fun of what you eat is not racist. Stereotypes are not racist just a good assumption of what certain nationally culture is like, which is not bad or racist.

always wondered since when it was bad to eat KFC and watermelons? KFC is awesome, and watermelons is the best thing you can eat in the summer.
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[QUOTE="eloyc"]

Bush has been compared so many times with macaques that I can't even remember, and nobody complained about that.

It seems that once you make a joke with a black person, you're a racist. I'm not saying that there's no racist people that like to be offensive against black people, but there's also people that make critical jokes and that's it.

Not every joke that includes a black person is because of racism.

balindos

I agree. Its just a joke and nothing else. Only racist people can see this as racist. So is it racist to say asians eat rice too or mexicans eat tacos? Obviously not all of them like to eat those thing but is it really something that hurts you? If it does bother you, then you are a weak person. People making fun of what you eat is not racist. Stereotypes are not racist just a good assumption of what certain nationally culture is like, which is not bad or racist.

So going up to an asian person and squinting your eyes while holding a stereotypical kung-fu pose isn't racist, because their eyes are slanted and their culture has historically practiced martial arts?

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Yeah, and the 95% of black people voting for Obama aren't racist at all.

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No one said that... :|
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Yeah, and the 95% of black people voting for Obama aren't racist at all.

bungie93

Are you implying that if you're black and voting for Obama you're racist?

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[QUOTE="bungie93"]

Yeah, and the 95% of black people voting for Obama aren't racist at all.

-Sun_Tzu-

Are you implying that if you're black and voting for Obama you're racist?

He probably is, bungie93 is a very hardcore antiobama poster.
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Just curious, but where did the watermelon and KFC stereotypes originate?
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[QUOTE="bungie93"]

Yeah, and the 95% of black people voting for Obama aren't racist at all.

-Sun_Tzu-

Are you implying that if you're black and voting for Obama you're racist?

No he's implying that 95 percent of black Obama supporters were racist to begin with
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[QUOTE="bungie93"]

Yeah, and the 95% of black people voting for Obama aren't racist at all.

-Sun_Tzu-

Are you implying that if you're black and voting for Obama you're racist?

I'd say he's being sarcastic about black people not having any racism in them at all.

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="bungie93"]

Yeah, and the 95% of black people voting for Obama aren't racist at all.

DivergeUnify

Are you implying that if you're black and voting for Obama you're racist?

No he's implying that 95 percent of black Obama supporters were racist to begin with

but why make that assumption?

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Just curious, but where did the watermelon and KFC stereotypes originate?Forerunner-117

Watermelon explanation

As for fried chicken, I think this quote makes some sense: link

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but why make that assumption?

-Sun_Tzu-

Well lets see:

the voters are black and Obama is the first black candidate to make it so far... 95 percent of black voters are for Obama. That's an extremely skewed number when the actual average in today's polls are about 50/30 Obama

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

but why make that assumption?

DivergeUnify

Well lets see:

the voters are black and Obama is the first black candidate to make it so far... 95 percent of black voters are for Obama. That's an extremely skewed number when the actual average in today's polls are about 50/30 Obama

You're trying to argue that the overwhelming majority of the black community is voting for Obama, which is absolutely true. But what you're leaving out is the fact that the overwhelming majority of the black community always votes for democrat. You're saying that the black community is voting for Obama almost soley on race alone, but what I'm saying that they are voting for him because he happens to be the nominee on the democratic ticket.

Now are they right for doing that? I can't say. And is race certainly a factor? Of course it is, race and religion are always factors. But the overwhelming majority of the black community voting for a democrat is no different then the overwhelming majority of voters in the deep south voting for a republican.

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Real smooth... :roll:

I swear.

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should i post a motivational pic to get more heat into this topic >_>
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

but why make that assumption?

-Sun_Tzu-

Well lets see:

the voters are black and Obama is the first black candidate to make it so far... 95 percent of black voters are for Obama. That's an extremely skewed number when the actual average in today's polls are about 50/30 Obama

You're trying to argue that the overwhelming majority of the black community is voting for Obama, which is absolutely true. But what you're leaving out is the fact that the overwhelming majority of the black community always votes for democrat. You're saying that the black community is voting for Obama almost soley on race alone, but what I'm saying that they are voting for him because he happens to be the nominee on the democratic ticket.

Now are they right for doing that? I can't say. And is race certainly a factor, of course it is, race and religion are always a factor. But the overwhelming majority of the black community voting for a democrat is no different then the overwhelming majority of voters in the deep south voting for a republican.

Well then, I guess we agree
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aw they forgot grape juice?

/sarcasm

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

but why make that assumption?

DivergeUnify

Well lets see:

the voters are black and Obama is the first black candidate to make it so far... 95 percent of black voters are for Obama. That's an extremely skewed number when the actual average in today's polls are about 50/30 Obama

You're trying to argue that the overwhelming majority of the black community is voting for Obama, which is absolutely true. But what you're leaving out is the fact that the overwhelming majority of the black community always votes for democrat. You're saying that the black community is voting for Obama almost soley on race alone, but what I'm saying that they are voting for him because he happens to be the nominee on the democratic ticket.

Now are they right for doing that? I can't say. And is race certainly a factor, of course it is, race and religion are always a factor. But the overwhelming majority of the black community voting for a democrat is no different then the overwhelming majority of voters in the deep south voting for a republican.

Well then, I guess we agree

Wow.

If you're going to be so hard headed and narrow-minded, then fine, good luck with that.

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Wow.

If you're going to be so hard headed and narrow-minded, then fine, good luck with that.

-Sun_Tzu-
How am I being narrow minded? I read an considered your post, then came to the conclusion that I agreed with you.
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[QUOTE="Forerunner-117"]Just curious, but where did the watermelon and KFC stereotypes originate?Lockedge

Watermelon explanation

As for fried chicken, I think this quote makes some sense: link

:lol: Thanks man.

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Bush has been compared so many times with macaques that I can't even remember, and nobody complained about that.

It seems that once you make a joke with a black person, you're a racist. I'm not saying that there's no racist people that like to be offensive against black people, but there's also people that make critical jokes and that's it.

Not every joke that includes a black person is because of racism.

eloyc

........ What are you talking about? What critical joke is to be made from this that does NOT include race when you incorporate a bucket of fried chicken and watermellon with him?

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Inland GOP mailing depicts Obama's face on food stamp

[QUOTE=""]03:05 PM PDT on Thursday, October 16, 2008

By MICHELLE DeARMOND
The Press-Enterprise

The latest newsletter by an Inland Republican women's group depicts Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama surrounded by a watermelon, ribs and a bucket of fried chicken, prompting outrage in political circles.

The October newsletter by the Chaffey Community Republican Women, Federated says if Obama is elected his image will appear on food stamps -- instead of dollar bills like other presidents. The statement is followed by an illustration of "Obama Bucks" -- a phony $10 bill featuring Obama's face on a donkey's body, labeled "United States Food Stamps."

The GOP newsletter, which was sent to about 200 members and associates of the group by e-mail and regular mail last week, is drawing harsh criticism from members of the political group, elected leaders, party officials and others as racist.

An Inland Republican women's group sent out a newsletter showing this fake $10 "food stamp" with Barack Obama's face on it.

The group's president, Diane Fedele, said she plans to send an apology letter to her members and to apologize at the club's meeting next week. She said she simply wanted to deride a comment Obama made over the summer about how as an African-American he "doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills."

"It was strictly an attempt to point out the outrageousness of his statement. I really don't want to go into it any further," Fedele said in a telephone interview Tuesday. "I absolutely apologize to anyone who was offended. That clearly wasn't my attempt."

Fedele said she got the illustration in a number of chain e-mails and decided to reprint it for her members in the Trumpeter newsletter because she was offended that Obama would draw attention to his own race. She declined to say who sent her the e-mails with the illustration.

She said she doesn't think in racist terms, pointing out she once supported Republican Alan Keyes, an African-American who previously ran for president.

"I didn't see it the way that it's being taken. I never connected," she said. "It was just food to me. It didn't mean anything else."

She said she also wasn't trying to make a statement linking Obama and food stamps, although her introductory text to the illustration connects the two: "Obama talks about all those presidents that got their names on bills. If elected, what bill would he be on????? Food Stamps, what else!"

Club Member Cries

Sheila Raines, an African-American member of the club, was the first person to complain to Fedele about the newsletter. Raines, of San Bernardino, said she has worked hard to try to convince other minorities to join the Republican Party and now she feels betrayed.

"This is what keeps African-Americans from joining the Republican Party," she said. "I'm really hurt. I cried for 45 minutes."


The Obama campaign declined to comment. It's the campaign's policy to not address such attacks, said Gabriel Sanchez, a California spokesman for the campaign.

The newsletter prompted a rebuke from another African-American member of the organization, which is well recognized in the community for its philanthropy and efforts to register and turn out voters in the Rancho Cucamonga and Upland areas.

Acquanetta Warren, a Fontana councilwoman and member of the women's group, said the item is rude and requires a public apology.

"When I opened that up and saw it, I said, 'Why did they do this? It doesn't even reflect our principles and values,' " said Warren, who served as a Republican delegate to the national convention in September and is a regional vice chairwoman for the California Republican Party. "I know a lot of the ladies in that club and they're fantastic. They're volunteers. They really care -- some of them go to my church."

Warren forwarded an electronic version of the newsletter to the California Republican Party headquarters, where officials also were outraged Wednesday and denounced the illustration.

Hector Barajas, the party's press secretary, said the party chairman likely will have a conversation with Fedele, and Barajas will attend the statewide California Federation of Republican Women conference this weekend in Los Angeles to handle any news media there to cover the controversy.

Obama in Turban

The newsletter is not the first such episode Barajas has had to respond to this week. The Sacramento Bee on Wednesday posted an image it said was captured from the Sacramento County GOP Web site that showed Obama in a turban next to Osama bin Laden.

It said: "The difference between Osama and Obama is just a little B.S." The site also encouraged members to "Waterboard Barack Obama," a reference to a torture technique. The Sacramento County party took down the material Tuesday after being criticized.

Mark Kirk, a spokesman for the San Bernardino County GOP chairman, said he expects Chairman Gary Ovitt to also have a talk with Fedele and to attend the group's local meeting next week to discuss the issue with members, although the county GOP has no formal oversight role over the club. Kirk said these kinds of depictions hurt the party's ongoing efforts to reach out to minorities.

"It's very damaging and we're going to take steps to correct this," Kirk said. "Unfortunately, I don't know what you do to correct ignorance like this, but we will do what we can."

Assemblyman Bill Emmerson, R-Redlands, and state Sen. Bob Dutton, R-Rancho Cucamonga, both criticized the illustration as inappropriate and irresponsible.

Dutton pointed out that his wife, a member of the club, is of Mexican heritage and has battled criticism that the Republican Party is not the party for minorities. The club's newsletter undercuts efforts to rise above racism, he said.

"Bias and racial comments and even suggestions are frankly what weakens us as a people. I think we as Americans need to rise above that," he said.

Emmerson said he was extremely offended and sickened by the newsletter.

Barbara O'Connor, director of the Institute for the Study of Politics and the Media at Cal State Sacramento, said it's imperative that people speak out about these kinds of depictions no matter how small the organization. She praised Raines for doing so.

"It's a statement about what is civil discourse and can you get away with doing something under an organizational banner," she said. "You have to cut it out at the root and the root is often small organizations that are local and they then become larger."Dreams-Visions

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Props to my boy Mr_Puffy for finding this.

Pretty damn disgusting. It would have been somewhat funny if it was just Obama's head on the donkey...but that chicken and watermelon ****? clearly crossed the line and they know it. And the turbin bit? Clealry the GOP wants to be assured of getting as little of the black vote as possible with these situations. they just don't know when to quit.

seems all they have to do is be themselves...be left to their own devices...and idiocy will come.

Ha that was funny. You gotta love satire. And for all those offended... we do have freedom of speech.
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Wow.

If you're going to be so hard headed and narrow-minded, then fine, good luck with that.

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How am I being narrow minded? I read an considered your post, then came to the conclusion that I agreed with you.

You took what I said completely out of context. Yes race is a factor. Yes there is a minority of black voters who are going to vote for Obama because he's black. But there is also a minority of white voters that voted for Hillary and that are going to vote for McCain on November 4th because he is black.

Why can't the majority of the black community vote for a democrat because they agree with the principles of the democratic party without being labeled a racist in your eyes?

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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

Wow.

If you're going to be so hard headed and narrow-minded, then fine, good luck with that.

-Sun_Tzu-

How am I being narrow minded? I read an considered your post, then came to the conclusion that I agreed with you.

You took what I said completely out of context. Yes race is a factor. Yes there is a minority of black voters who are going to vote for Obama because he's black. But there is also a minority of white voters that voted for Hillary and that are going to vote for McCain on November 4th because he is black.

Why can't the majority of the black community vote for a democrat because they agree with the principles of the democratic party without being labeled a racist in your eyes?

Especially when the black community is predominantly Democrat in the first place...

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Bush has been compared so many times with macaques that I can't even remember, and nobody complained about that.

It seems that once you make a joke with a black person, you're a racist. I'm not saying that there's no racist people that like to be offensive against black people, but there's also people that make critical jokes and that's it.

Not every joke that includes a black person is because of racism.

sSubZerOo

........ What are you talking about? What critical joke is to be made from this that does NOT include race when you incorporate a bucket of fried chicken and watermellon with him?

I'm talking in general terms, I didn't say that this is a clear critical joke, but I meant that sometimes the word 'racism' is overused.

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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

Wow.

If you're going to be so hard headed and narrow-minded, then fine, good luck with that.

-Sun_Tzu-

How am I being narrow minded? I read an considered your post, then came to the conclusion that I agreed with you.

You took what I said completely out of context. Yes race is a factor. Yes there is a minority of black voters who are going to vote for Obama because he's black. But there is also a minority of white voters that voted for Hillary and that are going to vote for McCain on November 4th because he is black.

Why can't the majority of the black community vote for a democrat because they agree with the principles of the democratic party without being labeled a racist in your eyes?

I didn't take anything you said out of context. This discussion isn't about Hillary voters; obviously the ones going McCain, because Obama is black are racist, as well.
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="eloyc"]

Bush has been compared so many times with macaques that I can't even remember, and nobody complained about that.

It seems that once you make a joke with a black person, you're a racist. I'm not saying that there's no racist people that like to be offensive against black people, but there's also people that make critical jokes and that's it.

Not every joke that includes a black person is because of racism.

eloyc

........ What are you talking about? What critical joke is to be made from this that does NOT include race when you incorporate a bucket of fried chicken and watermellon with him?

I'm talking in general terms, I didn't say that this is a clear critical joke, but I meant that sometimes the word 'racism' is overused.

K just saying hehe, its odvious this is racist.. There have been no metaphores to any of Obamas polices as watermellon or fried chicken, so it pretty much garentees their racist to intent.

But as a supporter of Obama, I found this pretty hilarious on how blantent they were..

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[QUOTE="eloyc"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="eloyc"]

Bush has been compared so many times with macaques that I can't even remember, and nobody complained about that.

It seems that once you make a joke with a black person, you're a racist. I'm not saying that there's no racist people that like to be offensive against black people, but there's also people that make critical jokes and that's it.

Not every joke that includes a black person is because of racism.

sSubZerOo

........ What are you talking about? What critical joke is to be made from this that does NOT include race when you incorporate a bucket of fried chicken and watermellon with him?

I'm talking in general terms, I didn't say that this is a clear critical joke, but I meant that sometimes the word 'racism' is overused.

K just saying hehe, its odvious this is racist.. There have been no metaphores to any of Obamas polices as watermellon or fried chicken, so it pretty much garentees their racist to intent.

But as a supporter of Obama, I found this pretty hilarious on how blantent they were..

Ok. :)

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Wow that's terrible.
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Wow that's terrible.duxup

terribly funny.

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

Wow.

If you're going to be so hard headed and narrow-minded, then fine, good luck with that.

DivergeUnify

How am I being narrow minded? I read an considered your post, then came to the conclusion that I agreed with you.

You took what I said completely out of context. Yes race is a factor. Yes there is a minority of black voters who are going to vote for Obama because he's black. But there is also a minority of white voters that voted for Hillary and that are going to vote for McCain on November 4th because he is black.

Why can't the majority of the black community vote for a democrat because they agree with the principles of the democratic party without being labeled a racist in your eyes?

I didn't take anything you said out of context. This discussion isn't about Hillary voters; obviously the ones going McCain, because Obama is black are racist, as well.

Yeah you're right, this discussion isn't about Hillary supporters, nor McCain supporters, nor Obama supporters. This discussion is about you and people like you who blatantly state that the black community is racist because they support Obama because of the color of his skin rather than the principles he holds as a citizen of the U.S. and as a human being.

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Yeah you're right, this discussion isn't about Hillary supporters, nor McCain supporters, nor Obama supporters. This discussion is about you and people like you who blatantly state that the black community is racist because they support Obama because of the color of his skin rather than the principles he holds as a citizen of the U.S. and as a human being.

-Sun_Tzu-

Actually, I rather blatantly pointed out that the black community is not racist for supporting Obama due to color

edit: actually this thread is about a racist foodstamp, not the nonsense you put in your post