Interesting, I just found out one of Gamespot's reviewers is transgender.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] I can run around saying "I should've been a bird", it doesn't make it a valid argument. A boy saying "i should've been a girl" doesn't make it so.Nibroc420

Rediculious argument. A bird is a bird, just as a human is a human. Gender, however, is a purely social construct.

Forget biology for a moment, what do you think of when you think of "man"? And what do you think of when you think of "woman"?

[QUOTE="Lockedge"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Thats his body being sick. Believing you "should" be a different gender when you're not is silly.

Nibroc420

Well, luckily for me, I've done years of research, and I'm being supervised by people who have decades of research and experience on the topic, whereas you have precious little understanding of the topic.

So don't mind me if I keep on spouting 'invalid arguments'. Even if Im insane, it just so happens I have an understanding of what I'm going on about :P

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] I can run around saying "I should've been a bird", it doesn't make it a valid argument. A boy saying "i should've been a girl" doesn't make it so.Nibroc420

Rediculious argument. A bird is a bird, just as a human is a human. Gender, however, is a purely social construct.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Lockedge"] Well, gender is performance, so you can be any gender you wish. Sex, on the other hand, is a bit harder to change, and I believe that's what you're arguing against. And I shall disagree with you there that it's silly. It also runs on the assumption that who I am doesn't amount the value of what I am. Also, is it so far fetched to think that transfolk have differences in brain development that fall in line with the sex they believe themselves to be? I mean, considering that a vast majority of transperson's brains that have been studied are virtually identical to the average brain of the sex they presented themselves as....Lockedge

Well, luckily for me, I've done years of research, and I'm being supervised by people who have decades of research and experience on the topic, whereas you have precious little understanding of the topic.

So don't mind me if I keep on spouting 'invalid arguments'. Even if Im insane, it just so happens I have an understanding of what I'm going on about :P

[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"][QUOTE="toast_burner"] Kevin VMichael0134567

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"] that was obvious. MFDOOM1983

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Forget biology for a moment, what do you think of when you think of "man"? And what do you think of when you think of "woman"?

magicalclick

A man produces sperms and a woman produces eggs. Pretty simple.

Good Christ, what part of "forget biology" was difficult to understand?

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"] Not really lol.Michael0134567

And i should care why?

who cares...

gj, gamespotscorch-62

Everyone honestly needs to just shut up and keep their opinions to themselves, especially on things like this, because you KNOW it will cause arguments. Sure, one is being more reasonable than the other, but normally people have pretty closed minds unfortunately. Therefore, arguing with them will only enrage them. We don't want enraged misinformed people, do we?

MasterBolt360

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Rediculious argument. A bird is a bird, just as a human is a human. Gender, however, is a purely social construct.

worlock77

Forget biology for a moment, what do you think of when you think of "man"? And what do you think of when you think of "woman"?

It doesn't matter, she obviously wasn't happy with who she was before, but she is happy with who she is now. Well that's a good thing! The only thing we should do is support her and be happy for her. I'd rather see happy people than miserable people. So yay Carolyn! :)
And above all that, she's a pretty good reviewer if I might say.

I've had a couple of friends who are transgender, and it's not an easy life for them for a variety of reasons. It must be very difficult to grow up looking in the mirror and seeing someone who "isn't you" and the level of self-loathing must get well beyond what most of us could have experienced - For most of us, gender identity is not something that ever really becomes an issue.

All I'd hope is that people do some reading and not just label people as strange or weird.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="magicalclick"]

A man produces sperms and a woman produces eggs. Pretty simple.

magicalclick

Good Christ, what part of "forget biology" was difficult to understand?

but, that's the only fact about Man and woman. nothing else matters.

So a person has to produce eggs to be a woman?

[QUOTE="Lockedge"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] I can run around saying "I should've been a bird", it doesn't make it a valid argument. A boy saying "i should've been a girl" doesn't make it so.Nibroc420

Well, luckily for me, I've done years of research, and I'm being supervised by people who have decades of research and experience on the topic, whereas you have precious little understanding of the topic.

So don't mind me if I keep on spouting 'invalid arguments'. Even if Im insane, it just so happens I have an understanding of what I'm going on about :P

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Lockedge"]

Well, luckily for me, I've done years of research, and I'm being supervised by people who have decades of research and experience on the topic, whereas you have precious little understanding of the topic.

So don't mind me if I keep on spouting 'invalid arguments'. Even if Im insane, it just so happens I have an understanding of what I'm going on about :P

Lockedge

[QUOTE="LordRork"]

I've had a couple of friends who are transgender, and it's not an easy life for them for a variety of reasons. It must be very difficult to grow up looking in the mirror and seeing someone who "isn't you" and the level of self-loathing must get well beyond what most of us could have experienced - For most of us, gender identity is not something that ever really becomes an issue.

All I'd hope is that people do some reading and not just label people as strange or weird.

Nibroc420

Sorry, but you are wrong. Just plain goddamned wrong. You're trying to argue that being transgendered is a mental illness when you got the entire mental health profession against you on this. But I'm sure you, the armchair expert, know better than the people who do this s*** for a living.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="Michael0134567"] Which reviewer?Fuhgeddabouditt

It seems obvious, but back then when i didn't know i wouldn't have guessed either.

I love how Kevin V says "very fine" in the video. I mean come on!

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] It was for me.:P

MFDOOM1983

[QUOTE="Lockedge"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] People can twist research however they want. Doesn't mean it's factualNibroc420

You think is only problems accepting themselves? ok, are you a guy? then think about this, tomorrow you wake up finding now you have a woman's body€ oh and a woman's face, imagina that your wardrobe is only dresses and skirts and high heels, and then imagine that somehow you have the oportunity to go back to your male body. Will you do it or you just will have to accept yourself the way you are now?

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Lockedge"]

Well, luckily for me, I've done years of research, and I'm being supervised by people who have decades of research and experience on the topic, whereas you have precious little understanding of the topic.

So don't mind me if I keep on spouting 'invalid arguments'. Even if Im insane, it just so happens I have an understanding of what I'm going on about :P

Lockedge

[QUOTE="InEMplease"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] I'm sure that there's many people who spend time listening to voices that no-one else can hear. Just because someone thinks of something, doesn't mean they're stable minded.JJ_Productions

That has nothing to do with this. Transgendered people are not schizophrenic.

Link to the study?

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="Lockedge"] At my last job, one of the delivery drivers had a daughter who was born with Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, meaning she was born without a cervix, uterus or ovaries, and her vagina was almost nonexistent. She'll never be able to give birth, and maybe when she gets older she could maybe get surgery to create a so-called 'neovagina", basically expanding the cavity artificially. She'll have to take hormones if she manages to live until puberty(she was also born with a heart defect, so she's had to have multiple surgeries on it already, I think she's only 8 years old). There's enough evidence that things go wrong in the development of fetuses. There's been plenty of studies showing that these biological abnormalities are natural, and they have roots in biology. I don't see how anyone can just brush the issue off as "they're insane, they're butchering the research data" when the reality is rather obvious. madsnakehhh

You think is only problems accepting themselves? ok, are you a guy? then think about this, tomorrow you wake up finding now you have a woman's body€ oh and a woman's face, imagina that your wardrobe is only dresses and skirts and high heels, and then imagine that somehow you have the oportunity to go back to your male body. Will you do it or you just will have to accept yourself the way you are now?

Clay Davis's catchphrase sums up my thoughts on this.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="Lockedge"] At my last job, one of the delivery drivers had a daughter who was born with Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, meaning she was born without a cervix, uterus or ovaries, and her vagina was almost nonexistent. She'll never be able to give birth, and maybe when she gets older she could maybe get surgery to create a so-called 'neovagina", basically expanding the cavity artificially. She'll have to take hormones if she manages to live until puberty(she was also born with a heart defect, so she's had to have multiple surgeries on it already, I think she's only 8 years old). There's enough evidence that things go wrong in the development of fetuses. There's been plenty of studies showing that these biological abnormalities are natural, and they have roots in biology. I don't see how anyone can just brush the issue off as "they're insane, they're butchering the research data" when the reality is rather obvious. Lockedge

I definitely disagree with him/her

[QUOTE="Lockedge"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] People can twist research however they want. Doesn't mean it's factualjimmyjammer69

I hate judging people for there life choices, but imo being transgender is just...bad, I have nothing against homosexuality or any of that I feel you can find love anywhere, but you should be happy with the body you are born into, and thankful that you have no major problems physically or mentally, imo trying to change yourself like that is just being ingreatful to the miracle of life you were born with.

That being said, Carolyn's still a great reviewer and this wont change how i look at her reviews, but as she said in her blog this is just my .02 on the fact.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="LordRork"]

I've had a couple of friends who are transgender, and it's not an easy life for them for a variety of reasons. It must be very difficult to grow up looking in the mirror and seeing someone who "isn't you" and the level of self-loathing must get well beyond what most of us could have experienced - For most of us, gender identity is not something that ever really becomes an issue.

All I'd hope is that people do some reading and not just label people as strange or weird.

worlock77

Sorry, but you are wrong. Just plain goddamned wrong. You're trying to argue that being transgendered is a mental illness when you got the entire mental health profession against you on this. But I'm sure you, the armchair expert, know better than the people who do this s*** for a living.

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]

[QUOTE="Lockedge"] At my last job, one of the delivery drivers had a daughter who was born with Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, meaning she was born without a cervix, uterus or ovaries, and her vagina was almost nonexistent. She'll never be able to give birth, and maybe when she gets older she could maybe get surgery to create a so-called 'neovagina", basically expanding the cavity artificially. She'll have to take hormones if she manages to live until puberty(she was also born with a heart defect, so she's had to have multiple surgeries on it already, I think she's only 8 years old). There's enough evidence that things go wrong in the development of fetuses. There's been plenty of studies showing that these biological abnormalities are natural, and they have roots in biology. I don't see how anyone can just brush the issue off as "they're insane, they're butchering the research data" when the reality is rather obvious. Lockedge

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Excuse me, looking in a mirror and believing what you see "isn't you" is a symptom of mental illness. Which makes them wierd.kayoticdreamz

Sorry, but you are wrong. Just plain goddamned wrong. You're trying to argue that being transgendered is a mental illness when you got the entire mental health profession against you on this. But I'm sure you, the armchair expert, know better than the people who do this s*** for a living.

- A counsler is not a psychairtrist.

- Even if they were yours is but one person out of a profession of tens of thousands. The concensus among the mental health profession is that being transgendered is not a mental illness.

- "I think" doesn't count for s*** against the opinions of a concensus of real actual professionals in the field.

I hate all anti-transgendered people.

[QUOTE="MasterBolt360"]

Everyone honestly needs to just shut up and keep their opinions to themselves, especially on things like this, because you KNOW it will cause arguments. Sure, one is being more reasonable than the other, but normally people have pretty closed minds unfortunately. Therefore, arguing with them will only enrage them. We don't want enraged misinformed people, do we?

Nibroc420

GS is teh besttt!

[QUOTE="kayoticdreamz"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Sorry, but you are wrong. Just plain goddamned wrong. You're trying to argue that being transgendered is a mental illness when you got the entire mental health profession against you on this. But I'm sure you, the armchair expert, know better than the people who do this s*** for a living.

worlock77

- A counsler is not a psychairtrist.

- Even if they were yours is but one person out of a profession of tens of thousands. The concensus among the mental health profession is that being transgendered is not a mental illness.

- "I think" doesn't count for s*** against the opinions of a concensus of real actual professionals in the field.