Interesting, I just found out one of Gamespot's reviewers is transgender.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="kayoticdreamz"] dont know my counsler i saw years ago always taught that was a sympton of depression self loathing and hating something it seems most that do a sex change go through at some point. couple this with the other emotional issues they go through i think it could be easy to class it as a mental illness. really most mental illnesses that you goto therapy for invovle some kind of mental stress or in ablity to accept who you are or a general sadness and self loathing. so while transsexuals dealt with it in a different way i think the emotions very much fall under mental illness. and no this isnt a transsexuals are wrong rant or anything of the sort just saying likely what they experience falls under a mental illness category.kayoticdreamz

- A counsler is not a psychairtrist.

- Even if they were yours is but one person out of a profession of tens of thousands. The concensus among the mental health profession is that being transgendered is not a mental illness.

- "I think" doesn't count for s*** against the opinions of a concensus of real actual professionals in the field.

I didn't say a damn thing about depression. Try addressing what I said, not what I didn't say.

I hate all anti-transgendered people.

no_more_fayth

Fighting hate with hate. That works.

I dont really care what the reviewers' genders are. gamespot's reviews still blow.

[QUOTE="no_more_fayth"]

I hate all anti-transgendered people.

Hatiko

Fighting hate with hate. That works.

When people are heartless, hateful, ignorant people, you gotta call 'em on it.

Oh look, the low level TC dropped by to make a thread providing enough "material" for people he knows exist in OT (and in general) to.... um "work with", and then is never heard of again.

GJ, TC.

[QUOTE="no_more_fayth"]

I hate all anti-transgendered people.

Hatiko

Fighting hate with hate. That works.

The reason why we despise transphobic people is not because they simply hate transgender people. we hate them because of the pointless harm and pain that they cause. such as the beatings, murders, unfair treatment under the law, and family disownings of transgender people. We hate them because of what they do to harm others, not simply becuase of who they are. there is a big difference between the validity of our anger and theirs and there is an ENOURMOUS difference between our actions and theirs.

[QUOTE="Hatiko"]

[QUOTE="no_more_fayth"]

I hate all anti-transgendered people.

no_more_fayth

Fighting hate with hate. That works.

When people are heartless, hateful, ignorant people, you gotta call 'em on it.

So now I'm heartless. Great, I have an opinion on something and I now have no heart. Thank you very much. Does my opinion hurt anyone? No. Am I going to hurt/kill anyone because of it? No. I just don't agree with it. But what does that do? It lies in my mind and creates an opinion. And my opinion doesn't affect how I treat anyone. I don't agree with the decision but I treat them like what they are, human beings.

Do I agree with homosexuality? No. But Iam never going to be mean or unkind to any of my homosexual friends.

I'm a republican in MA. all of my friends are liberals. Doesn't mean we don't get along, have fun, and help each other. They are my best friends.

You my friend are the ignorant and hateful one.

[QUOTE="Hatiko"]

[QUOTE="no_more_fayth"]

I hate all anti-transgendered people.

arbitor365

Fighting hate with hate. That works.

The reason why we despise transphobic people is not because they simply hate transgender people. we hate them because of the pointless harm and pain that they cause. such as the beatings, murders, unfair treatment under the law, and family disownings of transgender people. We hate them because of what they do to harm others, not simply becuase of who they are. there is a big difference between the validity of our anger and theirs and there is an ENOURMOUS difference between our actions and theirs.

Hmmmm.... I'm going to speak my mind here and say I don't understand transgender people. I don't see why they have to pretend to be something they are not. They should be happy with the way they were born....TommyWieseau81

I'm not going to claim that I know every detail about psychology nor the biology behind people who are trans and the like, but every time this thread comes up I want to smack everyone who sticks their fingers in their ears and pretends to not hear the science and theory behind why being trans is often a birth defect. Moar liek Intolerantspot amirite?majoras_wrath

most trans people will agree that its a birth defect. they were born with "mind" of a women but the body of a male (or vice versa). They attempt to remedy this through surgery in order to make their outward appearance match their inward being.

but dont make the mistake in thinking that the fact that they want to change their body is the "defect." Or that the fact that their psyche is closer to that of the opposite gender is a negative thing.

Oh! I actually saw her for the first time a couple of minutes ago for a flash of a second somewhere on Gs, was wonderin who she was :P

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]I'm not going to claim that I know every detail about psychology nor the biology behind people who are trans and the like, but every time this thread comes up I want to smack everyone who sticks their fingers in their ears and pretends to not hear the science and theory behind why being trans is often a birth defect. Moar liek Intolerantspot amirite?arbitor365

most trans people will agree that its a birth defect. they were born with "mind" of a women but the body of a male (or vice versa). They attempt to remedy this through surgery in order to make their outward appearance match their inward being.

but dont make the mistake in thinking that the fact that they want to change their body is the "defect." Or that the fact that their psyche is closer to that of the opposite gender is a negative thing.

You should be happy the way you were born. Sometimes.

You should be happy the way you were born. Sometimes.

GOGOGOGURT

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

You should be happy the way you were born. Sometimes.

majoras_wrath

I guess you didn't catch the "sometimes" in my post. Read before you rant.

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

You should be happy the way you were born. Sometimes.

GOGOGOGURT

I guess you didn't catch the "sometimes" in my post. Read before you rant.

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] Yeah I sure am pleased with the fact that I have only one hand. If I were to take actions to fix that, say with surgery, would that be against my nature?majoras_wrath

I guess you didn't catch the "sometimes" in my post. Read before you rant.

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

I guess you didn't catch the "sometimes" in my post. Read before you rant.

Nibroc420

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] Yeah I sure am pleased with the fact that I have only one hand. If I were to take actions to fix that, say with surgery, would that be against my nature?majoras_wrath

I guess you didn't catch the "sometimes" in my post. Read before you rant.

I didn't want to get too specific.

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

I guess you didn't catch the "sometimes" in my post. Read before you rant.

Nibroc420

It very much does effect their daily life.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] So to avoid making a controversy, you made it as ambiguous as possible. Nice! Fine. I assume that "sometimes" applies to people born with trans birth defects.majoras_wrath

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] So to avoid making a controversy, you made it as ambiguous as possible. Nice! Fine. I assume that "sometimes" applies to people born with trans birth defects.InEMplease

I don't understand how you can make this statement after all the information that's been given to you.

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] It's not a physical defect that affects daily life. It's a mental defect because they're not happy with the body nature gave them. There's nothing wrong with their body, they just want one of the other sex.Nibroc420

Her name is Carolyn Petit.

Found out on her twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/carolynmichelle/status/27063876588

Here is a youtube video of her on Gamespot On the Spot (11:27)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eMpv6sOqTc

I just thought that it was interesting and I admire Gamespot for not discriminating against people like her. :) She makes great reviews. What do you all think?

HotFemale

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="InEMplease"]

I don't understand how you can make this statement after all the information that's been given to you.

InEMplease

Did you read Smokescreened's first post?

[QUOTE="InEMplease"]

[QUOTE="TommyWieseau81"]Hmmmm.... I'm going to speak my mind here and say I don't understand transgender people. I don't see why they have to pretend to be something they are not. They should be happy with the way they were born....JJ_Productions

That's just it, they already feel like they're pretending to be something they're not. They feel they're in the wrong body, and should have been born differently.

Or maybe they're just not a nerd:P

[QUOTE="InEMplease"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] What is wrong with the body of the person? Are they missing legs? arms? No. They simply believe that they should be in the body of someone of the opposite gender. This is a mental issue, not a physical issue.Nibroc420

Did you read Smokescreened's first post?

[QUOTE="InEMplease"]

[QUOTE="JJ_Productions"] Anybody who makes decision based on feelings and not logic and sound information, is in no way shape or form a leader JJ_Productions

And just how do you know what goes into their decision making? It's not exactly a small decision, and I'm sure they've thought about it much more than you have.

^RL Dwight K Shrute:P

[QUOTE="InEMplease"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] But you clearly were not intended to be that way if nature did not agree. Having your mind believe it's "not suited for this body" is not normal thinking.Nibroc420

Genetic mutations are a normal thing, and usually disagree with nature.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="InEMplease"]

Genetic mutations are a normal thing, and usually disagree with nature.

NukaNuked

[QUOTE="NukaNuked"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] :roll: People who believe they should be a different sex, are as insane as those who truly believe they're supposed to be a different species.Nibroc420

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="NukaNuked"] Darn.......I wanna be a sloth. NukaNuked

After hearing her voice on The Hotspot, I am not surprised.

Her name is Carolyn Petit.

Found out on her twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/carolynmichelle/status/27063876588

Here is a youtube video of her on Gamespot On the Spot (11:27)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eMpv6sOqTc

I just thought that it was interesting and I admire Gamespot for not discriminating against people like her. :) She makes great reviews. What do you all think?

HotFemale

just saw her(?) review of LA Noire, thought something was off. gamers come in all shapes and colors.

Why does it matter?

This whole 10-page thread is nothing but gossip.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] So to avoid making a controversy, you made it as ambiguous as possible. Nice! Fine. I assume that "sometimes" applies to people born with trans birth defects.majoras_wrath

Psychology is the most subjective science that exists. It's like trying to study an object, where the object is also the subject. The DSM considered homosexuality a mental illness 40 years ago. Anyway, psychology is not as objective as the physical sciences.

If depression can be considered a mental illness, so can being transgendered. As someone else mentioned, the two often come hand-in-hand.

[QUOTE="kayoticdreamz"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

- A counsler is not a psychairtrist.

- Even if they were yours is but one person out of a profession of tens of thousands. The concensus among the mental health profession is that being transgendered is not a mental illness.

- "I think" doesn't count for s*** against the opinions of a concensus of real actual professionals in the field.

worlock77

I didn't say a damn thing about depression. Try addressing what I said, not what I didn't say.

I just thought that it was interesting and I admire Gamespot for not discriminating against people like her. :) She makes great reviews. What do you all think?HotFemale

I can't refer to what's obviously a guy as "her" with a straight face.

Why does it matter?

This whole 10-page thread is nothing but gossip.

Darkwanderer000

Best post in this ridiculous thread, it doesn't matter, and honestly this thread is only asking for trouble if left open.