Iowa Caucuses: Ted Cruz Wins, Clinton and Sanders Virtually Tied.

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#51 Serraph105
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Trump and Cruz are neck and neck right now.
http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/ia/Rep

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#52 Serraph105
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It's looking like Cruz might take this one.

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@Serraph105 said:

Trump and Cruz are neck and neck right now.

http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/ia/Rep

And the party leaders weep.

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@Serraph105 said:

It's looking like Cruz might take this one.

I kinda feel sorry for Bush. It's showing him at around 2% right now which is really low.

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@super600 said:
@Serraph105 said:

It's looking like Cruz might take this one.

I kinda feel sorry for Bush. It's showing him at around 2% right now which is really low.

He's behind Rand Paul and Ben Carson which can't feel good, but hey politics is rough.

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@super600 said:
@Serraph105 said:

It's looking like Cruz might take this one.

I kinda feel sorry for Bush. It's showing him at around 2% right now which is really low.

To be fair, people like Jeb hardly ever win Iowa because it has an unusually evangelical population. And really, winning Iowa isn't particularly indicative or who's going to win the race. If it didn't generate some momentum/money as the first caucus, no one would give it a second thought.

From what I've read, Bush is placing all his hopes and dreams on winning South Carolina.

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#57 Serraph105
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I'm going to say I was wrong earlier, and that Cruz is going to win. He's suddenly up by 500 something votes.

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Sanders is creeping up...!

It's going to be damn close

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@Serraph105: If it makes you feel any better, the delegates are awarded proportionally in this one.

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#60 Jacanuk
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Looks like Iowa goes for the most disgusting unlikable person Cruz on the republican side and a narrow win for Clinton on the democratic.

So it looks like Trumps voters are staying home

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#61 Serraph105
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@Serraph105: If it makes you feel any better, the delegates are awarded proportionally in this one.

Really? So Trump may get around 13 delegates and Cruz 17, or something like that. I'm wondering how Trump will be seen from here on out though if he is no longer seen as a winner. Perhaps Rubio's 3-2-1 placings could happen after all.

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#62 Serraph105
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I've been wondering, the 22% in the top right(ish) means 22% of the votes are in correct?

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#63  Edited By mattbbpl
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@Serraph105 said:
@mattbbpl said:

@Serraph105: If it makes you feel any better, the delegates are awarded proportionally in this one.

Really? So Trump may get around 13 delegates and Cruz 17, or something like that. I'm wondering how Trump will be seen from here on out though if he is no longer seen as a winner. Perhaps Rubio's 3-2-1 placings could happen after all.

Correct. Some of the party rules get a little complicated, so I'm not sure how rounding occurs in Iowa and whether the "really low" candidates get to keep any (Democrats, for instance, determine on the floor if a candidate like Omalley is "viable" and, if not, tell his voters they are free to vote for someone else or have their votes anulled). So each of Cruz and Trump could get as little as 10 each (30% of the 30 total available), or something like 11/13 as they net the lowest scoring candidates' percentages as well. It all depends on the little rules for this state/party combination.

Regardless, Trump and Cruz will end up with roughly the same number of delegates from this race unless the percentages change significantly.

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@Serraph105 said:
@mattbbpl said:

@Serraph105: If it makes you feel any better, the delegates are awarded proportionally in this one.

Really? So Trump may get around 13 delegates and Cruz 17, or something like that. I'm wondering how Trump will be seen from here on out though if he is no longer seen as a winner. Perhaps Rubio's 3-2-1 placings could happen after all.

Becarefull not putting to much into the Iowa caucus , in 2012 where Romney later took the win to be the republican candidate, Iowa picked Rick Santorum in 2012 and Huckabee in 2008. Both got beat pretty bad.

So "winning" Iowa can later prove to be a sign that they do not win the nomination.

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#65  Edited By mattbbpl
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@Serraph105 said:

I've been wondering, the 22% in the top right(ish) means 22% of the votes are in correct?

This number does, yes:

est. % in: 50%

50% are in.

Edit: Doh, that's for the Democrats. I've been switching back and forth. Republicans have 25% in.

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#67 Serraph105
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Just checked the Democrats and damn it's close. Closer than it was a while ago, but Clinton's still winning by a 2% margin. With only 63% in though there may yet be an upset.

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#68 Jacanuk
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@mattbbpl said:
@Serraph105 said:

I've been wondering, the 22% in the top right(ish) means 22% of the votes are in correct?

This number does, yes:

est. % in: 50%

50% are in.

Edit: Doh, that's for the Democrats. I've been switching back and forth. Republicans have 25% in.

Remember that even though it says 64% and now 43% the count in many area´s is not in yet, so even though Cruz seem to take the 2 biggest , they are still counting there.

And it looks like Rubio is coming on strong and may even beat Trump for 2nd.

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@Jacanuk: Right, I totally understand. It's precinct based.

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@mattbbpl said:

@Jacanuk: Right, I totally understand. It's precinct based.

Yep

Oh, and poor Malley , he really gets to feel the burn tonight, i am almost sure that he will withdraw and go support clinton, even tho he is the candidate that no one cares about :D

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@Serraph105: Ah, now they've got the "locked up" delegate count up. Cruz, Trump, and Rubio each have 5. Carson has 1.

14 to go!

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#72 Serraph105
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lol O'malley's got 1% again.

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New York times results are ahead of CNN

Bernie is 1.3 % behind

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Looks like common sense is prevailing. Trump is an entertaining character but Rubio is the best shot a Republican has to win the whole thing and it looks like a lot of Trump voters realized it and switched at the last minute.

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@Aljosa23 said:
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What boggles my mind is that people still support Hillary despite all of her scandals. I'll just have to assume the majority really is distracted and ill-informed to have continuous support for Hillary and that most of Bernie supporters are long-term internet users.

It has to be Bernie or Trump or else we're fucked.

I'm not a Clinton fan but... what scandals? She was never convicted of any wrongdoing in all those "scandals". Congrats on falling for the propaganda from her political enemies.

War crimes and she is being indicted for having top secret info on her server.

lol war crimes and she isn't indicted, only under investigation. Big difference m8.

http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/01/06/new-hillary-emails-reveal-true-motive-for-libya-intervention/

Bush 2.0

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#76  Edited By CWEBB04z
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Cruz won today. Thats great news. I think Cruz is the Republicans best shot to win.

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@CWEBB04z said:

Cruz won today. Thats great news. I think Cruz is the Republicans best shot to win.

Hopefully not.

Cruz is worse than Trump , he is unliked even among his own party. He is so hated that if he did secure the whole nomination , Clinton/Sanders would win by a landslide.

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.2% holy shit!

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@CWEBB04z said:

Cruz won today. Thats great news. I think Cruz is the Republicans best shot to win.

I think Rubio is the best shot. He's by far the most likable candidate from either party who actually has a chance to win.

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@Chozofication: Yeah I know, CNN actually has them tied at the moment. Effing crazy.

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@CWEBB04z said:

Cruz won today. Thats great news. I think Cruz is the Republicans best shot to win.

no, he just looks less crazy next to trump.

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I did say both Clinton vs Sanders would be good but I didn't expect this to be a very close tied.

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So a nutjob wins over another nutjob, does this make me feel better? No. Ted Cruz is a hardline conservative and the GOP doesn't even like him because of his antics in Congress. But even then, the fact that Donald Trump was in second place is still depressing an omen on this country and the GOP.

As for Hildog vs Bernie Burn Sanders vs Martin O' what's-his-name, I'm surprised how close it was for Sanders and Clinton and it's still close even with Clinton in the lead. Will there be an upset? Who knows. Anyways, may the best woman win.

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#86  Edited By NathanDrakeSwag
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@lostrib said:
@CWEBB04z said:

Cruz won today. Thats great news. I think Cruz is the Republicans best shot to win.

no, he just looks less crazy next to trump.

Which is still more sane than Hillary or Bernie.

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@lostrib said:
@CWEBB04z said:

Cruz won today. Thats great news. I think Cruz is the Republicans best shot to win.

no, he just looks less crazy next to trump.

thats an improvement imo

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I was hoping for Rubio/Sanders, but I'd say that even if they don't win (or in this case, Sanders) it definitely is a morale boost for both of them.

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@legolegate said:

O'Malley now at 1% and surging towards the end but not Presidential material because he gave up at the first sign of trouble.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/02/01/politics/martin-omalley-to-suspend-campaign/index.html

You mean he is done.

He has always been running up hill on a Sisyphus task

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What I don't understand is, why is Ted Cruz running for President when he isn't even born in this Country? Can we vote for Ah-nold Schwarzenegger in the next election?

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Holy crap, I know there is still more to go, but Hillary and Bernie are within three votes of each other!

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Man I wish Romney had ran again this time. Cruz is just pitiful.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Man I wish Romney had ran again this time. Cruz is just pitiful.

I'd take Paul Ryan over Romney. Paul Ryan seems to want to get things done in Congress, which remains to be seen, but I like his enthusiasm, more so than I thought of him in 2012.

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O snaps, the Canadian won Iowa.

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@PikminWorld said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Man I wish Romney had ran again this time. Cruz is just pitiful.

I'd take Paul Ryan over Romney. Paul Ryan seems to want to get things done in Congress, which remains to be seen, but I like his enthusiasm, more so than I thought of him in 2012.

I remember the Paul Ryan budget basically being crap, and it really hurt the republicans that voted for it (among republicans that is) for a short time. It was massive cuts to the social safety net which was "paid for" by massive tax cuts for the rich.

Republicans always seem to look out for the people who can pay them the most.

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@mesome713 said:

O snaps, the Canadian won Iowa.

He stands no chance in the general election.

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@mesome713 said:

O snaps, the Canadian won Iowa.

As long as he ain't Kenyan, it's okay.

lol

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Bernie's at 666 votes. He's a bit of a beast. :P