Iran the most powerful (nation) , says Ahmadinejad

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080047125&ch=4/17/2008%202:23:00%20PM

"President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has proclaimed that Iran is the ''most powerful nation'' in the world as the country's air force boasted of its prowess at a time of mounting tension with the West.



''Iran is the most powerful and independent nation in the world,'' Ahmadinejad told a military parade outside Tehran marking the Islamic republic's annual army day."

"''I am proud to announce today that the Iranian nation's power is of an extent that no major power can dare jeopardize the security and interests of the Iranian nation,'' said Ahmadinejad.



''The Iranian nation with its courageous army will defend its interests with all strength,'' he added."

That dude says a lot of things.

I don't put much weight in any leader who makes a "We're awesome!" speech. He's just trying to rally supporters and such.

The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pKillaHalo2o9

[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pawsss

China might have bigger Army then us, but we have the high tech machinery that they don't have.

[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pawsss

How will China's Army get here on man power alone? make a human ladder and cross the ocean

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pKillaHalo2o9

China might have bigger Army then us, but we have the high tech machinery that they don't have.

As Al Murray would say there wouldn't be enough bullets

Keep in mind, this guy also says the holocaust never happened, and there are no gays in Iran. Take what he says with a grain of salt. :P

[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pspark5050

China might have bigger Army then us, but we have the high tech machinery that they don't have.

As Al Murray would say there wouldn't be enough bullets

[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pawsss

The U.S.'s military might isn't the best. Places like China can top them. The U.S. simply has more nukes than everyone else.

[QUOTE="spark5050"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pstereointegrity

China might have bigger Army then us, but we have the high tech machinery that they don't have.

As Al Murray would say there wouldn't be enough bullets

[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pawsss

Actually, the United States gets most of its oil from Saudia Arabia and Canada.

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pTylendal

The U.S.'s military might isn't the best. Places like China can top them. The U.S. simply has more nukes than everyone else.

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pTylendal

The U.S.'s military might isn't the best. Places like China can top them. The U.S. simply has more nukes than everyone else.

Top the U.S in what areas other then number of troops?

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pVyse_The_Daring

Actually, the United States gets most of its oil from Saudia Arabia and Canada.

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pVyse_The_Daring

Actually, the United States gets most of its oil from Saudia Arabia and Canada.

Well if you acually believe that Iraq was not a war for oil than I suggest you read this.

http://www.thedebate.org/thedebate/iraq.asp

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pawsss

Actually, the United States gets most of its oil from Saudia Arabia and Canada.

Indeed, I just mentioned the top two.

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pknowledge-funk

Actually, the United States gets most of its oil from Saudia Arabia and Canada.

Well if you acually believe that Iraq was not a war for oil than I suggest you read this.

http://www.thedebate.org/thedebate/iraq.asp

Actually I think I would be more happy if the U.S. wen't in for the oil, I don't think it makes us evil...We've gone into Latin America/South America TONS of times to protect trading interests why stop now?

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pknowledge-funk

Actually, the United States gets most of its oil from Saudia Arabia and Canada.

Well if you acually believe that Iraq was not a war for oil than I suggest you read this.

http://www.thedebate.org/thedebate/iraq.asp

My point stands: the U.S' oil supply would not be a problem in the event of a war. Saudi Arabia and Canada have the largest and second largest proven reserves in the world, and are the top two suppliers to the United States.

To a degree, they are in fact very independent. They are very self sustaining, which I think is a very big deal in a generation of globalism, and gross-national dependence.rimnet00

Well their economy has been in the crapper ever since the sanctions have been tightened.

I'd argue N.Korea is the most independent nation, if only because they don't mind starving and killing their own people...

My point stands: the U.S' oil supply would not be a problem in the event of a war. Saudi Arabia and Canada have the largest and second largest proven reserves in the world, and are the top two suppliers to the United States.

Vyse_The_Daring

How would it not be a problem, when we already have so many people complaining about the cost of oil today? A war with Iran would boost the price of oil by a very large amount, which is precisely why Iran is considering leveraging their own by switching from using the dollar to the euro.

Just because there are multiple sources for importing oil, doesn't mean that one being cut off wouldn't cause problems. The other countries aren't going to just sit back, and say... "oh, no worries America, we'll increase the amount we pump just for you...".

[QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pVyse_The_Daring

Actually, the United States gets most of its oil from Saudia Arabia and Canada.

Well if you acually believe that Iraq was not a war for oil than I suggest you read this.

http://www.thedebate.org/thedebate/iraq.asp

My point stands: the U.S' oil supply would not be a problem in the event of a war. Saudi Arabia and Canada have the largest and second largest proven reserves in the world, and are the top two suppliers to the United States.

Where they obtain their oil to most does not change the fact that they wish for cheaper, easier gathered oil. Have you seen the prices of gas these days? I don't understand where your argument that "U.S' oil supply would not be a problem in the event of a war" came from.

Oil is a short-term problem. We can always research a way to power cars differently.gman56

Theres already multiple ways. If they were planning on changing this concept it would have happened already.

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]To a degree, they are in fact very independent. They are very self sustaining, which I think is a very big deal in a generation of globalism, and gross-national dependence.duxup

Well their economy has been in the crapper ever since the sanctions have been tightened.

I'd argue N.Korea is the most independent nation, if only because they don't mind starving and killing their own people...

I wasn't suggesting they are the most independent. However, they are definitly up there on the list of countries. So I can see how it would be easy for him to boost it.

With that said, I do agree that their economy was impacted by the sanctions. However, the sanctions imposed on them do not have the same effects as they did on Iraq back in the day. This is all due to how the Iranian government has tried to become self sustaining for years. It's also the very reason they are refusing to stop conducting their own nuclear research, so that they can produce nuclear fuel for themselves, versus being reliant on France, Russia or China - or whoever is offering to be their supplier of nuclear energy.

[QUOTE="gman56"]Oil is a short-term problem. We can always research a way to power cars differently.knowledge-funk

Theres already multiple ways. If they were planning on changing this concept it would have happened already.

[QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pmechwarrior_bob

Actually, the United States gets most of its oil from Saudia Arabia and Canada.

Well if you acually believe that Iraq was not a war for oil than I suggest you read this.

http://www.thedebate.org/thedebate/iraq.asp

Actually I think I would be more happy if the U.S. wen't in for the oil, I don't think it makes us evil...We've gone into Latin America/South America TONS of times to protect trading interests why stop now?

So its okay for our government to lie to us saying that the war in Iraq is to progress democracy and find the evil weapons of mass destructions, when it is really for Oil. No its not okay. They do not have right to lie to us, and our country does not have a right to occupy another another country for its own beneficial purposes.

[QUOTE="knowledge-funk"]

[QUOTE="gman56"]Oil is a short-term problem. We can always research a way to power cars differently.stereointegrity

Theres already multiple ways. If they were planning on changing this concept it would have happened already.

[QUOTE="mechwarrior_bob"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pknowledge-funk

Actually, the United States gets most of its oil from Saudia Arabia and Canada.

Well if you acually believe that Iraq was not a war for oil than I suggest you read this.

http://www.thedebate.org/thedebate/iraq.asp

Actually I think I would be more happy if the U.S. wen't in for the oil, I don't think it makes us evil...We've gone into Latin America/South America TONS of times to protect trading interests why stop now?

So its okay for our government to lie to us saying that the war in Iraq is to progress democracy and find the evil weapons of mass destructions, when it is really for Oil. No its not okay. They do not have right to lie to us, and our country does not have a right to occupy another another country for its own beneficial purposes.

Why not kill 2 (or 3) birds in one stone?

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"]

[QUOTE="gman56"]Oil is a short-term problem. We can always research a way to power cars differently.gman56

Theres already multiple ways. If they were planning on changing this concept it would have happened already.

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

My point stands: the U.S' oil supply would not be a problem in the event of a war. Saudi Arabia and Canada have the largest and second largest proven reserves in the world, and are the top two suppliers to the United States.

rimnet00

How would it not be a problem, when we already have so many people complaining about the cost of oil today? A war with Iran would boost the price of oil by a very large amount, which is precisely why Iran is considering leveraging their own by switching from using the dollar to the euro.

Just because there are multiple sources for importing oil, doesn't mean that one being cut off wouldn't cause problems. The other countries aren't going to just sit back, and say... "oh, no worries America, we'll increase the amount we pump just for you...".

My response was to the mention of war with China, who would also be affected by rising oil prices.

[QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="mechwarrior_bob"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pmechwarrior_bob

Actually, the United States gets most of its oil from Saudia Arabia and Canada.

Well if you acually believe that Iraq was not a war for oil than I suggest you read this.

http://www.thedebate.org/thedebate/iraq.asp

Actually I think I would be more happy if the U.S. wen't in for the oil, I don't think it makes us evil...We've gone into Latin America/South America TONS of times to protect trading interests why stop now?

So its okay for our government to lie to us saying that the war in Iraq is to progress democracy and find the evil weapons of mass destructions, when it is really for Oil. No its not okay. They do not have right to lie to us, and our country does not have a right to occupy another another country for its own beneficial purposes.

Why not kill 2 (or 3) birds in one stone?

First, once again, our country is not better than another. We have our own different policies, government, laws; a distinct way of living from other countries. We should not be enforcing our "democracy" on a another country, it does not make sense. Even so, it does not seem as they are even doing that objective. Second, no weapons were found, they should let the inspections go on longer. Now they are saying that it takes time for this, dosen't make much sense. So right there, we are not killing two birds with one stone, we are going right for oil. And oil, we shouldn't even be doing this. We must act fair and moral (even if we don't agree with anotehr nations ways) and obtain our needed glory of oil through basic far processes.

These topics always always devolve into some sort of /who would win in a war?/ scenario. The weird thing is everyone seems to act this war would occur in some sort of vacuum where you just add up some numbers and you get a winner :P duxup

[QUOTE="duxup"]These topics always always devolve into some sort of /who would win in a war?/ scenario. The weird thing is everyone seems to act this war would occur in some sort of vacuum where you just add up some numbers and you get a winner :P gman56

It's just silly, and sometimes worse.

[QUOTE="mechwarrior_bob"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="mechwarrior_bob"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pknowledge-funk

Actually, the United States gets most of its oil from Saudia Arabia and Canada.

Well if you acually believe that Iraq was not a war for oil than I suggest you read this.

http://www.thedebate.org/thedebate/iraq.asp

Actually I think I would be more happy if the U.S. wen't in for the oil, I don't think it makes us evil...We've gone into Latin America/South America TONS of times to protect trading interests why stop now?

So its okay for our government to lie to us saying that the war in Iraq is to progress democracy and find the evil weapons of mass destructions, when it is really for Oil. No its not okay. They do not have right to lie to us, and our country does not have a right to occupy another another country for its own beneficial purposes.

Why not kill 2 (or 3) birds in one stone?

First, once again, our country is not better than another. We have our own different policies, government, laws; a distinct way of living from other countries. We should not be enforcing our "democracy" on a another country, it does not make sense. Even so, it does not seem as they are even doing that objective. Second, no weapons were found, they should let the inspections go on longer. Now they are saying that it takes time for this, dosen't make much sense. So right there, we are not killing two birds with one stone, we are going right for oil. And oil, we shouldn't even be doing this. We must act fair and moral (even if we don't agree with anotehr nations ways) and obtain our needed glory of oil through basic far processes.

Whether or not you agree with the methods we are establishing Democracy and a potential ally that would be key in the Middle East (we need all we can get). Yes I agree our country is not better than another but I feel as a nation we have to promote the general commonwealth of the world and if that means through armoured columns then....so be it. I also feel that we are doing this (helping more then hurting etc.) in Iraq even if we're doing it for the oil. Until I see a general corruption to invade and plunder and leave then I will agree with our intentions.

iran to the us is nothing...now if mamhoud keeps his Sh** up isreal is going to destroy themstereointegrity

[QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="mechwarrior_bob"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="mechwarrior_bob"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pmechwarrior_bob

Actually, the United States gets most of its oil from Saudia Arabia and Canada.

Well if you acually believe that Iraq was not a war for oil than I suggest you read this.

http://www.thedebate.org/thedebate/iraq.asp

Actually I think I would be more happy if the U.S. wen't in for the oil, I don't think it makes us evil...We've gone into Latin America/South America TONS of times to protect trading interests why stop now?

So its okay for our government to lie to us saying that the war in Iraq is to progress democracy and find the evil weapons of mass destructions, when it is really for Oil. No its not okay. They do not have right to lie to us, and our country does not have a right to occupy another another country for its own beneficial purposes.

Why not kill 2 (or 3) birds in one stone?

First, once again, our country is not better than another. We have our own different policies, government, laws; a distinct way of living from other countries. We should not be enforcing our "democracy" on a another country, it does not make sense. Even so, it does not seem as they are even doing that objective. Second, no weapons were found, they should let the inspections go on longer. Now they are saying that it takes time for this, dosen't make much sense. So right there, we are not killing two birds with one stone, we are going right for oil. And oil, we shouldn't even be doing this. We must act fair and moral (even if we don't agree with anotehr nations ways) and obtain our needed glory of oil through basic far processes.

Whether or not you agree with the methods we are establishing Democracy and a potential ally that would be key in the Middle East (we need all we can get). Yes I agree our country is not better than another but I feel as a nation we have to promote the general commonwealth of the world and if that means through armoured columns then....so be it. I also feel that we are doing this (helping more then hurting etc.) in Iraq even if we're doing it for the oil. Until I see a general corruption to invade and plunder and leave then I will agree with our intentions.

I dont think america is getting any real ally in the middle east for invading iraq , i dont see any promotion to general commonwealth when all america did and still doing is killing thousands and invading iraq for their own benefit .

And its definitly hurting more than helping , if i invade your homeland and kill your people and suck your oil or any natural resources and make a mess of your country while doing so , then leaving when my need is done .... is that helping ?? not its not , thats down right evil .