Iran the most powerful (nation) , says Ahmadinejad

Propaganda.

[QUOTE="mechwarrior_bob"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="mechwarrior_bob"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="mechwarrior_bob"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pbryan2020

Actually, the United States gets most of its oil from Saudia Arabia and Canada.

Well if you acually believe that Iraq was not a war for oil than I suggest you read this.

http://www.thedebate.org/thedebate/iraq.asp

Actually I think I would be more happy if the U.S. wen't in for the oil, I don't think it makes us evil...We've gone into Latin America/South America TONS of times to protect trading interests why stop now?

So its okay for our government to lie to us saying that the war in Iraq is to progress democracy and find the evil weapons of mass destructions, when it is really for Oil. No its not okay. They do not have right to lie to us, and our country does not have a right to occupy another another country for its own beneficial purposes.

Why not kill 2 (or 3) birds in one stone?

First, once again, our country is not better than another. We have our own different policies, government, laws; a distinct way of living from other countries. We should not be enforcing our "democracy" on a another country, it does not make sense. Even so, it does not seem as they are even doing that objective. Second, no weapons were found, they should let the inspections go on longer. Now they are saying that it takes time for this, dosen't make much sense. So right there, we are not killing two birds with one stone, we are going right for oil. And oil, we shouldn't even be doing this. We must act fair and moral (even if we don't agree with anotehr nations ways) and obtain our needed glory of oil through basic far processes.

Whether or not you agree with the methods we are establishing Democracy and a potential ally that would be key in the Middle East (we need all we can get). Yes I agree our country is not better than another but I feel as a nation we have to promote the general commonwealth of the world and if that means through armoured columns then....so be it. I also feel that we are doing this (helping more then hurting etc.) in Iraq even if we're doing it for the oil. Until I see a general corruption to invade and plunder and leave then I will agree with our intentions.

I dont think america is getting any real ally in the middle east for invading iraq , i dont see any promotion to general commonwealth when all america did and still doing is killing thousands and invading iraq for their own benefit .

And its definitly hurting more than helping , if i invade your homeland and kill your people and suck your oil or any natural resources and make a mess of your country while doing so , then leaving when my need is done .... is that helping ?? not its not , thats down right evil .

Very true.

Your perspective would completely change if you were in the other side. It shocks me that you believe what we have done and continue to do in Iraq is totally justifed and accoutable for. It is not justified in any way.

As you can see here in the picture, without being a military commander, i've drawn up a rough military execution for ground troop movements. No doubt we would secure some rights from turkey to move troops through their territory, and Iraq and Afghanistan are a given, wether they like it or not. The Iraq War would become a non-issue and we'd leave it's own security to iraq local security forces. Given that we are engaging the major source for terrorists in iraq in the first place, i doubt they'd have much of an issue.

As you can see the primary strategy for ground troops beyond securing ports and military bases and air fields, will be to take over the government center of Tehran. We'd have troops go through southern iraq into iran to help secure southern ports along the Persian gulf. Many of our own naval assets will already have taken over much of the Persian gulf and essentially sealed off the ports from outside influence, and we could then proceed to ship in more troops via naval travel.

Through Northern Iraq, Turkey, and Afghanistan marines will mobilize taking routes to major air fields and bases, and securing a route to Tehran. Meanwhile we will have a contingent of troops take a parth north of iran to secure ports along the caspian sea, and set up command posts along Iran's northern borders.

Depending upon Pakistan's involement, troops may want to set up an artificial border along the gray dotted line to cut off Pakistani forces from interfering elsewhere in the country. The main goal will be to hold off pakistan until Iran's primary government has been killed or capture.

With the proximity of the Persian Gulf, having an Aircraft carrier present allows many air attacks on the country with little time in between reloads, allowing for quick reaction to troop movements and tank spotting. Primary targets will include but not be limited to Army Bases, Uranium Enrichment facilities, weapons cache's, and Targets-of-opportunity.

Anyway, suffice it to say, it seems to me the layout of Iran gidoesnt give the US any trouble, and the Persian Gulf gives us Naval Assets a close and direct route to Iran.

Tolwan

:| ... :lol:

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Tolwan

This...this makes me feel giddy.

As you can see here in the picture, without being a military commander, i've drawn up a rough military execution for ground troop movements. No doubt we would secure some rights from turkey to move troops through their territory, and Iraq and Afghanistan are a given, wether they like it or not. The Iraq War would become a non-issue and we'd leave it's own security to iraq local security forces. Given that we are engaging the major source for terrorists in iraq in the first place, i doubt they'd have much of an issue.

As you can see the primary strategy for ground troops beyond securing ports and military bases and air fields, will be to take over the government center of Tehran. We'd have troops go through southern iraq into iran to help secure southern ports along the Persian gulf. Many of our own naval assets will already have taken over much of the Persian gulf and essentially sealed off the ports from outside influence, and we could then proceed to ship in more troops via naval travel.

Through Northern Iraq, Turkey, and Afghanistan marines will mobilize taking routes to major air fields and bases, and securing a route to Tehran. Meanwhile we will have a contingent of troops take a parth north of iran to secure ports along the caspian sea, and set up command posts along Iran's northern borders.

Depending upon Pakistan's involement, troops may want to set up an artificial border along the gray dotted line to cut off Pakistani forces from interfering elsewhere in the country. The main goal will be to hold off pakistan until Iran's primary government has been killed or capture.

With the proximity of the Persian Gulf, having an Aircraft carrier present allows many air attacks on the country with little time in between reloads, allowing for quick reaction to troop movements and tank spotting. Primary targets will include but not be limited to Army Bases, Uranium Enrichment facilities, weapons cache's, and Targets-of-opportunity.

Anyway, suffice it to say, it seems to me the layout of Iran gidoesnt give the US any trouble, and the Persian Gulf gives us Naval Assets a close and direct route to Iran.

Tolwan

Where'd you find this, Bush's diary?

anyone can yack all day about whose the best but when it really comes down to it the USA is the greatest and always will be

its not something you can dispute they all know we are the best its why nobody will every attack us we are to important and they need us just as much we need them

we are the land of the free home of the MOTHER FU**ING BRAVE

Really? since when?

What the hell do you expect him to say at a military parade?

"We suck. Our enemies could wipe the floor with you sorry sack of losers." :roll:

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pKillaHalo2o9

China might have bigger Army then us, but we have the high tech machinery that they don't have.

China is rapidly catching up in the hi-tech industry. If you (and I say 'you' in a general sense. not killahalo specifically) think that the US is safe in its position as a superpower, you are sadly mistaken. China will become the next superpower. Our government and industries are practically handing the baton over to them. Wait and see.

[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/piwokojance

China might have bigger Army then us, but we have the high tech machinery that they don't have.

China is rapidly catching up in the hi-tech industry. If you (and I say 'you' in a general sense. not killahalo specifically) think that the US is safe in its position as a superpower, you are sadly mistaken. China will become the next superpower. Our government and industries are practically handing the baton over to them. Wait and see.

lol They have a Air Force? What is it 5 guys in a lego helicopter?mechwarrior_bob

Dude, no. That guy only thinks days and night HOW TO FREAKING CONQUER THE DAM WORLD so he must've some extra cars in his hand (the sixth that is)

Keep in mind, this guy also says the holocaust never happened, and there are no gays in Iran. Take what he says with a grain of salt. :P

Vyse_The_Daring

More like a big block of salt.

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pKillaHalo2o9

China might have bigger Army then us, but we have the high tech machinery that they don't have.

Wow, uninformed much?

America HAS THE LARGEST STANDING ARMY IN THE WORLD. China downsized MANY years ago, they have no need for war as their secret police put down any attempts of civil revolution and in terms of foriegn issues, well, they don't actually have any to speak of. China wins through financial domination, not war.

And if a real war did break out between China and America, guess what, you're gona die! You think China would let America touch her soil without WIPING your major cities off the map? Get real. They may be capitalist but they still have one of the most hardline and dangerous governments in the world. Who shoots who's plane down won't matter when your exchanging titan missiles.

Cmon people. China IS a superpower. You may not like it but they are. THEY OWN 80% of your nation! If you stop buying their products they will simply recal their loans and instantly castrate your economy. If either makes a move its financial MAD.

Iran doesn't even have the strongest military in the middle east

that designation belongs to Israel and Turkey.

Iran doesn't even have the strongest military in the middle east

that designation belongs to Israel and Turkey.

C_BozkurT_C

Turkey is European...

[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"]

Iran doesn't even have the strongest military in the middle east

that designation belongs to Israel and Turkey.

Ilived

Turkey is European...

[QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"]

Iran doesn't even have the strongest military in the middle east

that designation belongs to Israel and Turkey.

C_BozkurT_C

Turkey is European...

Well then gtfo of European competitions.

[QUOTE="mechwarrior_bob"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="mechwarrior_bob"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="mechwarrior_bob"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pbryan2020

Actually, the United States gets most of its oil from Saudia Arabia and Canada.

Well if you acually believe that Iraq was not a war for oil than I suggest you read this.

http://www.thedebate.org/thedebate/iraq.asp

Actually I think I would be more happy if the U.S. wen't in for the oil, I don't think it makes us evil...We've gone into Latin America/South America TONS of times to protect trading interests why stop now?

So its okay for our government to lie to us saying that the war in Iraq is to progress democracy and find the evil weapons of mass destructions, when it is really for Oil. No its not okay. They do not have right to lie to us, and our country does not have a right to occupy another another country for its own beneficial purposes.

Why not kill 2 (or 3) birds in one stone?

First, once again, our country is not better than another. We have our own different policies, government, laws; a distinct way of living from other countries. We should not be enforcing our "democracy" on a another country, it does not make sense. Even so, it does not seem as they are even doing that objective. Second, no weapons were found, they should let the inspections go on longer. Now they are saying that it takes time for this, dosen't make much sense. So right there, we are not killing two birds with one stone, we are going right for oil. And oil, we shouldn't even be doing this. We must act fair and moral (even if we don't agree with anotehr nations ways) and obtain our needed glory of oil through basic far processes.

Whether or not you agree with the methods we are establishing Democracy and a potential ally that would be key in the Middle East (we need all we can get). Yes I agree our country is not better than another but I feel as a nation we have to promote the general commonwealth of the world and if that means through armoured columns then....so be it. I also feel that we are doing this (helping more then hurting etc.) in Iraq even if we're doing it for the oil. Until I see a general corruption to invade and plunder and leave then I will agree with our intentions.

I dont think america is getting any real ally in the middle east for invading iraq , i dont see any promotion to general commonwealth when all america did and still doing is killing thousands and invading iraq for their own benefit .

And its definitly hurting more than helping , if i invade your homeland and kill your people and suck your oil or any natural resources and make a mess of your country while doing so , then leaving when my need is done .... is that helping ?? not its not , thats down right evil .

the anti-american sentiment is strong in this one.

[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"]

Iran doesn't even have the strongest military in the middle east

that designation belongs to Israel and Turkey.

Ilived

Turkey is European...

Well then gtfo of European competitions.

[QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"]

Iran doesn't even have the strongest military in the middle east

that designation belongs to Israel and Turkey.

C_BozkurT_C

Turkey is European...

Well then gtfo of European competitions.

My problem is that Turkey is flying around getting money for being in European competitions when it isn't part of Europe. I don't think Turkey will ever be accepted in the European Union and you know why.

[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"]

Iran doesn't even have the strongest military in the middle east

that designation belongs to Israel and Turkey.

Ilived

Turkey is European...

Well then gtfo of European competitions.

My problem is that Turkey is flying around getting money for being in European competitions when it isn't part of Europe. I don't think Turkey will ever be accepted in the European Union and you know why.

[QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"]

Iran doesn't even have the strongest military in the middle east

that designation belongs to Israel and Turkey.

C_BozkurT_C

Turkey is European...

Well then gtfo of European competitions.

My problem is that Turkey is flying around getting money for being in European competitions when it isn't part of Europe. I don't think Turkey will ever be accepted in the European Union and you know why.

I hope you know I wasn't being serious. No I don't care about the Armenian Genocide because I don't think it was a genocide. I just don't like seeing Turkish teams being allowed to play in European competitions when they are aren't part of the EU. Any nation who isn't part of the EU or Europe shouldn't be allowed...doesn't make sense. Might as well let South American teams in.

[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"]

Iran doesn't even have the strongest military in the middle east

that designation belongs to Israel and Turkey.

Ilived

Turkey is European...

Well then gtfo of European competitions.

My problem is that Turkey is flying around getting money for being in European competitions when it isn't part of Europe. I don't think Turkey will ever be accepted in the European Union and you know why.

I hope you know I wasn't being serious. No I don't care about the Armenian Genocide because I don't think it was a genocide. I just don't like seeing Turkish teams being allowed to play in European competitions when they are aren't part of the EU. Any nation who isn't part of the EU or Europe shouldn't be allowed...doesn't make sense. Might as well let South American teams in.

Awww cmon they are your neighbours man!

Its like my nation with Australia. We let them play Rugby in our competitions, even though they suck so much.

Whats that you say? They've won more world cups in recent history than us?! NANANANANANANA IM NOT LISTENING

lol They have a Air Force? What is it 5 guys in a lego helicopter?mechwarrior_bob

i thought it was a midget on a kite haha

[QUOTE="mechwarrior_bob"]lol They have a Air Force? What is it 5 guys in a lego helicopter?hormagaunt

i thought it was a midget on a kite haha

lol They have a Air Force? What is it 5 guys in a lego helicopter?mechwarrior_bob

lmao Good one! :lol:

[QUOTE="bryan2020"][QUOTE="mechwarrior_bob"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="mechwarrior_bob"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="mechwarrior_bob"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pItalStallion777

Actually, the United States gets most of its oil from Saudia Arabia and Canada.

Well if you acually believe that Iraq was not a war for oil than I suggest you read this.

http://www.thedebate.org/thedebate/iraq.asp

Actually I think I would be more happy if the U.S. wen't in for the oil, I don't think it makes us evil...We've gone into Latin America/South America TONS of times to protect trading interests why stop now?

So its okay for our government to lie to us saying that the war in Iraq is to progress democracy and find the evil weapons of mass destructions, when it is really for Oil. No its not okay. They do not have right to lie to us, and our country does not have a right to occupy another another country for its own beneficial purposes.

Why not kill 2 (or 3) birds in one stone?

First, once again, our country is not better than another. We have our own different policies, government, laws; a distinct way of living from other countries. We should not be enforcing our "democracy" on a another country, it does not make sense. Even so, it does not seem as they are even doing that objective. Second, no weapons were found, they should let the inspections go on longer. Now they are saying that it takes time for this, dosen't make much sense. So right there, we are not killing two birds with one stone, we are going right for oil. And oil, we shouldn't even be doing this. We must act fair and moral (even if we don't agree with anotehr nations ways) and obtain our needed glory of oil through basic far processes.

Whether or not you agree with the methods we are establishing Democracy and a potential ally that would be key in the Middle East (we need all we can get). Yes I agree our country is not better than another but I feel as a nation we have to promote the general commonwealth of the world and if that means through armoured columns then....so be it. I also feel that we are doing this (helping more then hurting etc.) in Iraq even if we're doing it for the oil. Until I see a general corruption to invade and plunder and leave then I will agree with our intentions.

I dont think america is getting any real ally in the middle east for invading iraq , i dont see any promotion to general commonwealth when all america did and still doing is killing thousands and invading iraq for their own benefit .

And its definitly hurting more than helping , if i invade your homeland and kill your people and suck your oil or any natural resources and make a mess of your country while doing so , then leaving when my need is done .... is that helping ?? not its not , thats down right evil .

the anti-american sentiment is strong in this one.

So me not agreeing what our concept of war is being anti-american now? That is exactly what is done within our society. If we choose not to agree with out government and its ways, were are considered anti-ameican and isolated from within. The fact is this war is unjustified, they had planned this war from before, they lied to us to get what they wished for, like before, and it will continue as long as there is ignorant people as yourself. You yourself seem unpatriotic for not wanting what our country was really about and choosing to continue and destroy ato destroy whats left of the US with these neverending wars in which we [as citizens] will never gain from, rather only the government in power will.

iran to the us is nothing...now if mamhoud keeps his Sh** up isreal is going to destroy themstereointegrity

Iran is very valuable to the US. You havent learned that from this whole war on terror have you? I dont think that a country should be ranked by its army and strength anymore, but like rimnet said, its global independence.

So me not agreeing what our concept of war is being anti-american now? That is exactly what is done within our society. If we choose not to agree with out government and its ways, were are considered anti-ameican and isolated from within. The fact is this war is unjustified, they had planned this war from before, they lied to us to get what they wished for, like before, and it will continue as long as there is ignorant people as yourself. You yourself seem unpatriotic for not wanting what our country was really about and choosing to continue and destroy ato destroy whats left of the US with these neverending wars in which we [as citizens] will never gain from, rather only the government in power will.

knowledge-funk

Exactly. When in fact, speaking out against your government is a lot more patriotic in my eyes, as you are constructively criticising it in order for it to improve it's ways. As opposed to blindly following it's every move, as if it were divinely inspired.

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]The U.S is the only superpower in the world and its going to beat the #### out of Iran. :evil: j/pKillaHalo2o9

China might have bigger Army then us, but we have the high tech machinery that they don't have.

what's that you throw puppys at them ?

joking :P

lol They have a Air Force? What is it 5 guys in a lego helicopter?mechwarrior_bob

Iran the most powerful nation in the world- yeah right that's why their economy is so stellar. They're probably the only middle eastern country that has a good amount of fuel reserves but imports all their fuel because they don't have the refineries to refine the oil. Then Iran is trying to build a nuke whereas other countries all ready have multiple nukes. Then let's make a comparison between how the U.S. did in Iraq and how the Iranians did: Iran fought the Iraqi army for 8 years and only achieved a standstill, in 1991 the U.S. fought Iraq for a couple of weeks and managed to kick them completely out of Kuwait, in 2003 the U.S. was able to take Baghdad and destroy the Iraqi army within a month.

You people just don't get it, do you?

Its propaganda designed to raise American sentiment against Iran. "Iran thinks its the best? NO WAY WE ARE" is the reaction they're trying to raise in you. It really does amaze me that people don't realize that most of these articles and news stories being fed to them are just part of the psychological warfare that is propaganda.

Iran has done nothing wrong. There is no reason to invade them. If you do, you are the bad guys. Period.
Nwordjohn

If they tell us to invade Iran, then we have no choice.

[QUOTE="Nwordjohn"]Its propaganda designed to raise American sentiment against Iran. "Iran thinks its the best? NO WAY WE ARE" is the reaction they're trying to raise in you. It really does amaze me that people don't realize that most of these articles and news stories being fed to them are just part of the psychological warfare that is propaganda.

Iran has done nothing wrong. There is no reason to invade them. If you do, you are the bad guys. Period.
SmithWesson642

If they tell us to invade Iran, then we have no choice.

That is exactly why I miss the 70's. When people had enough balls to stand up to their government's warmongering and protest. They're not going to stop unless people en masse show up outside the white house to protest it. Too bad you've already sacrified enough of your constitution that you would be considered terrorists and would be held without trial.

[QUOTE="SmithWesson642"]

[QUOTE="Nwordjohn"]Its propaganda designed to raise American sentiment against Iran. "Iran thinks its the best? NO WAY WE ARE" is the reaction they're trying to raise in you. It really does amaze me that people don't realize that most of these articles and news stories being fed to them are just part of the psychological warfare that is propaganda.

Iran has done nothing wrong. There is no reason to invade them. If you do, you are the bad guys. Period.
Nwordjohn

If they tell us to invade Iran, then we have no choice.

That is exactly why I miss the 70's. When people had enough balls to stand up to their government's warmongering and protest. They're not going to stop unless people en masse show up outside the white house to protest it. Too bad you've already sacrified enough of your constitution that you would be considered terrorists and would be held without trial.

I'll be honest, Iraq isn't anything compared to Vietnam.

I'm sure if as many people were dying in IRaq as Nam, then people would stop joining the military, and civilians would be protesting ALOT more.

[QUOTE="Nwordjohn"][QUOTE="SmithWesson642"]

[QUOTE="Nwordjohn"]Its propaganda designed to raise American sentiment against Iran. "Iran thinks its the best? NO WAY WE ARE" is the reaction they're trying to raise in you. It really does amaze me that people don't realize that most of these articles and news stories being fed to them are just part of the psychological warfare that is propaganda.

Iran has done nothing wrong. There is no reason to invade them. If you do, you are the bad guys. Period.
SmithWesson642

If they tell us to invade Iran, then we have no choice.

That is exactly why I miss the 70's. When people had enough balls to stand up to their government's warmongering and protest. They're not going to stop unless people en masse show up outside the white house to protest it. Too bad you've already sacrified enough of your constitution that you would be considered terrorists and would be held without trial.

I'll be honest, Iraq isn't anything compared to Vietnam.

I'm sure if as many people were dying in IRaq as Nam, then people would stop joining the military, and civilians would be protesting ALOT more.

Are you implying that Iraqis are not people? Because the death toll for the civilians and "combatants" in Iraq is well over the million mark now. They down play it on CNN and Fox news because those are basically the neo-con mouth piece for Americans. The fact that human life isn't valued by people because of the nation they are born in is just disgusting. I'd choose an Iraqi over an American any day of the week and I'm not the only one. At least they are actually fighting the oppression thats being put over them. Enjoy your Patriot Act, Victory Act, Freedom Act, SPP and all of the other laws passed to protect you from "terrorists" while in reality they are stripping you of your Freedoms. Of course, you need to fight the terrorists.

[QUOTE="SmithWesson642"][QUOTE="Nwordjohn"][QUOTE="SmithWesson642"]

[QUOTE="Nwordjohn"]Its propaganda designed to raise American sentiment against Iran. "Iran thinks its the best? NO WAY WE ARE" is the reaction they're trying to raise in you. It really does amaze me that people don't realize that most of these articles and news stories being fed to them are just part of the psychological warfare that is propaganda.

Iran has done nothing wrong. There is no reason to invade them. If you do, you are the bad guys. Period.
Nwordjohn

If they tell us to invade Iran, then we have no choice.

That is exactly why I miss the 70's. When people had enough balls to stand up to their government's warmongering and protest. They're not going to stop unless people en masse show up outside the white house to protest it. Too bad you've already sacrified enough of your constitution that you would be considered terrorists and would be held without trial.

I'll be honest, Iraq isn't anything compared to Vietnam.

I'm sure if as many people were dying in IRaq as Nam, then people would stop joining the military, and civilians would be protesting ALOT more.

Are you implying that Iraqis are not people? Because the death toll for the civilians and "combatants" in Iraq is well over the million mark now. They down play it on CNN and Fox news because those are basically the neo-con mouth piece for Americans. The fact that human life isn't valued by people because of the nation they are born in is just disgusting. I'd choose an Iraqi over an American any day of the week and I'm not the only one. At least they are actually fighting the oppression thats being put over them. Enjoy your Patriot Act, Victory Act, Freedom Act, SPP and all of the other laws passed to protect you from "terrorists" while in reality they are stripping you of your Freedoms. Of course, you need to fight the terrorists.

I didn't really see that many Iraqi's dying myself, I never even shot an insurgent. The only dead Iraqi's I saw was a van that crossed an IED.

I'm sure you've never seen a million dollars in cold hard cash either. Does that mean it doesn't exist?Nwordjohn

Look, I don't know whats going on witht he oil companies, all I did was stand on gaurd duty and do some patrols for 9 months, I've never even seen a terrorist, I got along fine enough witht he locals, and now I'm back home.

So in his mind they're the most powerful because they've supposedly made their Air Force better?