Irrefutable proof that Global Warming is happening on Other PLANETS

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]

but the majority of people know its happening, there is to much proof to blow it off. Wanna talk about wasting billions, lets talk about useless things like iraq.

Omni-Slash

but a vast majority of scientist all ready beleive its proven, most dont consider it a thoery, this has been around longer than a decade. al gore and others were talking about it back in the 70's.

the graphs over lap. scientist can detect co2 levels and temp. and when the graphs are put together when ever co2 went up so did the temp.

SaintLeonidas

but a vast majority of scientist all ready beleive its proven, most dont consider it a thoery, this has been around longer than a decade. al gore and others were talking about it back in the 70's.

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]

the graphs over lap. scientist can detect co2 levels and temp. and when the graphs are put together when ever co2 went up so did the temp.

Omni-Slash

[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]

the graphs over lap. scientist can detect co2 levels and temp. and when the graphs are put together when ever co2 went up so did the temp.

bastards12345

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"

but a vast majority of scientist all ready beleive its proven, most dont consider it a thoery, this has been around longer than a decade. al gore and others were talking about it back in the 70's.

Omni-Slash

most scientist beleive if the sea lvl does rise it could be 50 to 100 years from now. The thing is scientist have proven the co2 and temp lvls thousands of years ago, and predict that it will continue, and most knwo it will. And with the global cooling, when global waming contnues, its gonna cause an ice age in europe, cause global warming doesnt just mean its gonna get real hot, it greenland melts itll mess up the whole climate in the mid atlantic, stopping the warming temp from entering europe and cause freezing.

[QUOTE="bastards12345"][QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]

the graphs over lap. scientist can detect co2 levels and temp. and when the graphs are put together when ever co2 went up so did the temp.

-Karayan-

[QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="bastards12345"][QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]

the graphs over lap. scientist can detect co2 levels and temp. and when the graphs are put together when ever co2 went up so did the temp.

bastards12345

[QUOTE="ShadySpecimen"]This makes me quite upset. it's people like you who are holding us back from making changes that will save our world. In three weeks I will graduate from college with a degree in climate physics engineering and there are always people who try to look for loopholes in the fact that global warming is happening. Of course a natural global warming does occur, and can occur on other planets, but that does not mean that our actions do not intensify it here on earth. The carbon dioxide, CFC's and other chemicals we put into the atmosphere are accelerating what would be natural fluctuations in the climate, and the president effectively gags scientists so that they won't object to his ridiculous policies. I don't even understand what the point of your side of the debate stands to gain- if we don't change, the world will be changed in a way we cannot adapt to.areyoumad

[QUOTE="areyoumad"][QUOTE="ShadySpecimen"]This makes me quite upset. it's people like you who are holding us back from making changes that will save our world. In three weeks I will graduate from college with a degree in climate physics engineering and there are always people who try to look for loopholes in the fact that global warming is happening. Of course a natural global warming does occur, and can occur on other planets, but that does not mean that our actions do not intensify it here on earth. The carbon dioxide, CFC's and other chemicals we put into the atmosphere are accelerating what would be natural fluctuations in the climate, and the president effectively gags scientists so that they won't object to his ridiculous policies. I don't even understand what the point of your side of the debate stands to gain- if we don't change, the world will be changed in a way we cannot adapt to.ShadySpecimen

again i would reiterate my statement.Global warming is a lie.The sun's radiation has increased

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/sun_output_030320.html 

and about where i cant my news i get it from alternative media not the controlled media.Also your ozone theory is wrong as the ozone layer has actually increased even more.

http://www.webelements.com/nexus/node/1039

http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMQBOKKKSE_index_0.html

I feel pity for you as your mind has been brainwashed by the establishment.Check my links with an open mind.

do check this link

http://www.incapabledesetaire.com/edito/secretwash.htm

and my union post.My sig would lead directly to my union.

[QUOTE="bastards12345"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="bastards12345"][QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]

the graphs over lap. scientist can detect co2 levels and temp. and when the graphs are put together when ever co2 went up so did the temp.

-Karayan-

[QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="bastards12345"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="bastards12345"][QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]

the graphs over lap. scientist can detect co2 levels and temp. and when the graphs are put together when ever co2 went up so did the temp.

bastards12345

first of all, i think you misunderstand what i said about the ozone layer. The ozone hold rebuilt itself as a direct result of our decreasing the SST's at that atmospheric level. Since that time, of course fluctutations has occured in the layer itself. As far as the sun getting stronger, this is a phenmenon that should become important millenia into the future, not in our near future. Most of the earth's warming happens because of the natural greenhouse effect of water vapor trapping heat and reradiating it back to earth. The anthropogenic greenhouse effect occurs from increased levels of CO2. CO2 is more effective than water vapor at radiating heat so a smaller amount can warm the earth more effectively than water vapor. Right now, it contributes about 5% to our climatic warming. Because of these controls in our climate system, the 'natural' greenhouse effect and the dynamic atmoshpere we are buffered from cyclic or evolutionary changes in the sun. The may intensify and lessen throughout the solar cycle, but as I said before it accounts for about a 1% change in atmospheric factors, at the most. The sun could intensify but our climate is strong enough where it may be able to absorb the change and adapt. However, the global warming danger that we see today is a big threat because we can now manufacture compounds that 6000% more effective at heat trapping than CO2, and releasing them into the atmosphere could cause a warming on a scale the earth has never seen. Humans are very dangerous in this way. So for everyone that said that humans can't really impact the climate, we've unintentially engineered human systems and technology that are so effective in warming the earth that the global warming problem is accelerated way beyond the natural effects.

I understand people having opinions here, but honestly with every post there are so many factual issues that people should really get a clue what they are talking about before posting. I have read your links, and with just about anything people will try to come up with a conspiracy, but it doesn't mean it's correct. This particular reasoning you use is so hurtful because people that think like this will prevent us from saving the world we live in.

 I am going to work now later.