Is anyone here an adult still living with their parents?

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Fault comes in when you were blaming the geographic area. I'm stating that you can do it almost anywhere if you live with someone else. And you can choose your roommates. Or you can move in with someone you already know and trust.airshocker

So it's not the state's fault for being so expensive? :lol: News to me.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

I agree it is too expensive.

If everyplace was like that, I would see your point, but wanting to be around family, cost of living, no job, etc are all just excuses (since they can be fixed).
...people COULD move out and live on their own.

Like I said, I have no problem with someone staying at home.
They could just say "I choose to live at home b/c ______". But saying you can't live on your own just makes someone look either incompetent or like a little b*tch

airshocker

Like I already said, distance to family is a major factor for some people. I know my wife refuses to move further away from her family, even though I would like to go back to North Dakota and live far more comfortably than we do here. I don't particularly want to move away from my parents and my sister, but such is the state of my area that it's looking more and more attractive.

All I am saying is own up to that choice, admit you could have lived on your own, but that you chose not to b/c you chose something else (being close to family, easier, don't like roommates, w/e)

[QUOTE="airshocker"]especially in a a place like NY.

rawsavon

I have no problem with people that live at home post HS (though I tend to think less of them, but that can't be helped). The only thing I have a problem with are the excuses. If you want to live at home b/c it is easier, then more power to you...just don't make excuses. That is even more pathetic IMO.
-this is not talking about people that are at home to help their parents (versus the parents helping them)

Yea I see where you are coming from. Personally I can't imagine why someone would have the chance to move out and live as an adult and not do so.

:| anyone with a job can live in any state they want. It's the size of the space that is in question. complaining that you might have to share an apartment with a roommate is pretty much the epitome of a first world problem. Get over it and load up Craigslist, or stop complaining and live with your parents forever, for all I care.Engrish_Major

Anyone with a job CAN'T live in New York State. There is a reason for the adage "If you can make it in New York, you can make it anywhere." Someone making minimum wage at GameStop will be incapable of providing for themselves in this state. To think otherwise means you're sheltered and ignorant.

First-world problems. :lol: Get over yourself.

What are you even talking about with this last statement?

Personally I can't imagine why someone would have the chance to move out and live as an adult and not do so.

GazaAli

We are just disagreeing on semantics at this point.

-you can make a choice (not to live far away from family).
-but that does not mean you can't live on your own (if your wife still lived at home).

All I am saying is own up to that choice, admit you could have lived on your own, but that you chose not to b/c you chose something else (being close to family, easier, don't like roommates, w/e)

rawsavon

We're disagreeing over a mentality. I won't hold it against someone for being unable to live on his own in this state. I know first-hand how expensive it is. You may think it's perfectly doable and to you it may very well be, but there are always going to be certain things people are unwilling to do.

Could definitely have lived on my own since the age of 17. Rent w. roommates isn't bad; I don't have people issues. It's just easier to focus on school/avoid debt by not doing so. That's the crux of the matter.

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]:| anyone with a job can live in any state they want. It's the size of the space that is in question. complaining that you might have to share an apartment with a roommate is pretty much the epitome of a first world problem. Get over it and load up Craigslist, or stop complaining and live with your parents forever, for all I care.airshocker

Anyone with a job CAN'T live in New York State. There is a reason for the adage "If you can make it in New York, you can make it anywhere."

First-world problems. :lol: Get over yourself.

What are you even talking about with this last statement?

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

We are just disagreeing on semantics at this point.

-you can make a choice (not to live far away from family).
-but that does not mean you can't live on your own (if your wife still lived at home).

All I am saying is own up to that choice, admit you could have lived on your own, but that you chose not to b/c you chose something else (being close to family, easier, don't like roommates, w/e)

airshocker

We're disagreeing over a mentality. I won't hold it against someone for being unable to live on his own in this state. I know first-hand how expensive it is. You may think it's perfectly doable and to you it may very well be, but there are always going to be certain things people are unwilling to do.

So instead of making an excuse "I can't b/c of _____", Say "I choose to live at home b/c of _____"

Of course they can. Do you think that everyone in the entire state is rich? I moved out of my parent's house to live in the DC area, in a neighborhood that has costs that rival that in many parts of NYC. I couldn't do it alone - I've always lived with someone else. I don't think that I'm the one that has to get over myself if someone makes the excuse (and it is an excuse) that they don't want to live with other people. THAT is a first world problem.Engrish_Major

They really can't. A well-paying job is hard to find in this area. Most other people are stuck with minimum wage retail jobs that simply aren't enough to pay the rent.

People shouldn't have to live with a roommate to afford a place to live. As for the first-world problem nonsense, people have different priorities. Right now my biggest problem is finding the cash to buy the SW:TOR collectors edition. You need to get over yourself if you think you have any say in how big of a priority someones problems are.

...which are just excuses (that is my point)

-you COULD move away to someplace cheaper
-you COULD move to someplace that has employment
-you COULD leave your family
-etc
...but you CHOOSE not to

So instead of making an excuse "I can't b/c of _____", Say "I choose to live at home b/c of _____"

rawsavon

I disagree. I think they're perfectly acceptable reasons. That's coming from soneone who doesn't make excuses for people.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

...which are just excuses (that is my point)

-you COULD move away to someplace cheaper
-you COULD move to someplace that has employment
-you COULD leave your family
-etc
...but you CHOOSE not to

So instead of making an excuse "I can't b/c of _____", Say "I choose to live at home b/c of _____"

airshocker

I disagree. I think they're perfectly acceptable reasons. That's coming from soneone who doesn't make excuses for people.

rawsavon you are thinking way too much into this and it has nothing to do with you. who cares what people say?

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

...which are just excuses (that is my point)

-you COULD move away to someplace cheaper
-you COULD move to someplace that has employment
-you COULD leave your family
-etc
...but you CHOOSE not to

So instead of making an excuse "I can't b/c of _____", Say "I choose to live at home b/c of _____"

airshocker

I disagree. I think they're perfectly acceptable reasons. That's coming from soneone who doesn't make excuses for people.

I have defended your intelligence quite a bit...you are not making my job easy ATM

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Of course they can. Do you think that everyone in the entire state is rich? I moved out of my parent's house to live in the DC area, in a neighborhood that has costs that rival that in many parts of NYC. I couldn't do it alone - I've always lived with someone else. I don't think that I'm the one that has to get over myself if someone makes the excuse (and it is an excuse) that they don't want to live with other people. THAT is a first world problem.airshocker

They really can't. A well-paying job is hard to find in this area. Most other people are stuck with minimum wage retail jobs that simply aren't enough to pay the rent.

People shouldn't have to live with a roommate to afford a place to live. As for the first-world problem nonsense, people have different priorities. Right now my biggest problem is finding the cash to buy the SW:TOR collectors edition. You need to get over yourself if you think you have any say in how big of a priority someones problems are.

rawsavon you are thinking way too much into this and it has nothing to do with you. who cares what people say?

Hishiko

I don't think raw cares what other people say, for the most part.

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

...which are just excuses (that is my point)

-you COULD move away to someplace cheaper
-you COULD move to someplace that has employment
-you COULD leave your family
-etc
...but you CHOOSE not to

So instead of making an excuse "I can't b/c of _____", Say "I choose to live at home b/c of _____"

Hishiko

I disagree. I think they're perfectly acceptable reasons. That's coming from soneone who doesn't make excuses for people.

rawsavon you are thinking way too much into this and it has nothing to do with you. who cares what people say?

It is a discussion b/w me and Air.
It has the same amount do with me as it does with him (he does not live at home either)
...it is also the purpose of a forum (discuss an issue/topic)

[QUOTE="Hishiko"]

rawsavon you are thinking way too much into this and it has nothing to do with you. who cares what people say?

airshocker

I don't think raw cares what other people say, for the most part.

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="Hishiko"]

rawsavon you are thinking way too much into this and it has nothing to do with you. who cares what people say?

Hishiko

I don't think raw cares what other people say, for the most part.

all worked up? your observational skills are severely lackingrawsavon

Being able to have your own place to yourself is not a right. Therefore, if you are still living with your parents because you don't want to find someone else to split the rent with, that is an excuse.Engrish_Major

I'm not calling it a right. I'm basing my judgement off of what I saw in North Dakota. Plenty of people lived on their own because rent was affordable, and housing was plenty.

Housing is plenty in New York, yet rent is unaffordable b/c of the area. I don't believe this is right.

An excuse implies there is no legitimate reason for someone doing what they did. Choosing not to live on their own because rent is too expensive is a legitimate reason. So I guess we'll agree to disagree.

either way he seems all worked up over something so silly.Hishiko

I've only seen Raw worked up once, and this is not it.

you butthurt now? move alone little doggy.

Hishiko

[QUOTE="Hishiko"]either way he seems all worked up over something so silly.airshocker

I've only seen Raw worked up once, and this is not it.

I'm 20, I'll be here till im done school and can support myself without struggling, only with my mom so I help her when I can around the house.

[QUOTE="xXDrPainXx"]Me either I can understand if its a temp solution until you get going but I know a few guys here that still live at home have a decent paying job and just keeps stashing money away in the bank accounts. It's not like their parents are poor either I just don't think they really care and let the guy mooch. One is 22, 26 and almost 30 and still crashing at home and have no plans to move out anytime soon. airshocker

My friend is 24 and now living with his parents. He just got out of the USAF too. But the only difference is, he can't find a job. No one in this area of New York is really hiring, and all the skillsets he has(security, police work) require him to get a permit to a pistol, get upgraded to a security carry, and go through security guard training classes. This place is a nightmare for people looking for honest, good-paying work.

Yeah I'm 26 in NYC and looking for work but I have my mother helping out. I'm all she's got so I do duties around the house whilst looking for work, but like you said - it's a nightmare in NYC.

I was watching the Occupy Wall Street movement and thinking about joining but then I thought - perfect time to go job hunting. Still nothing, but I have hope for 2012.

P.S. - I would never move out. I live in a house as opposed to an apartment like normal new yorkers. The freedom and tail this house brings - wouldnt trade it for anything.

I'm 18 and still live with my parents. I don't plan on spending the rest of my life with them by the farthest stretch of the imagination, but I don't stress about it, I'll take as long as I need.

BATTOSAI76

I moved to Atlanta to start at Georgia Tech when I was 17, no need to kick me out, I was running out the doorxaos

I wasn't aware you were a Jacket. But same story for me, I moved out to go to UGA less than a month after graduating high school. That being said, I see absolutely no reason why anyone should be ashamed of living with their parents. It's certainly not my place to look down on one for staying at home, and I refuse to criticize a value system that places importance on being with family or in a certain area.

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

We are just disagreeing on semantics at this point.

-you can make a choice (not to live far away from family).
-but that does not mean you can't live on your own (if your wife still lived at home).

All I am saying is own up to that choice, admit you could have lived on your own, but that you chose not to b/c you chose something else (being close to family, easier, don't like roommates, w/e)

rawsavon

We're disagreeing over a mentality. I won't hold it against someone for being unable to live on his own in this state. I know first-hand how expensive it is. You may think it's perfectly doable and to you it may very well be, but there are always going to be certain things people are unwilling to do.

So instead of making an excuse "I can't b/c of _____", Say "I choose to live at home b/c of _____"

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]people use 'location' a lot in giving excuses
-cost of living, no job, etc I say move then.

I have no problem with people that live at home post HS (though I tend to think less of them, but that can't be helped). The only thing I have a problem with are the excuses. If you want to live at home b/c it is easier, then more power to you...just don't make excuses. That is even more pathetic IMO.
-this is not talking about people that are at home to help their parents (versus the parents helping them)

MichBelle

I'm 20 and still live with my parents but I'd say that's ok - anything over 30 is bad.tofu-lion91

I've been fighting serious disease since right before my 21st b-day. I'm now 34 and am living with my parents (and just stopped treatment in July), and am now in school to become a chef. Would you say that's bad? I really don't like inviting people over to where I live because in all honesty I'm ashamed and very sensitive about the fact I'm with my parents at such an age. Especially with women. But then again, my entire twenties and early thirties were spent simply trying to survive through miserable physical and mental turmoil. I had no time for school or becoming skilled in trade, I was simply struggling to keep my head above water.

Now things are stable for the time being. But I don't think many people will understand how my past has affected the present. They just see a guy who's approaching middle-age living with his ma and pa and think "that's pathetic". Having been away from home before makes me miss it all the more, even though I do enjoy their company and we live in a beautiful area.

I'm 20, living with parents with a view to move out once the gf and I have finished University. I lived in Uni halls last year, but decided students are a bunch of ****s and moved home. I pay rent so they don't mind.

[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"]I'm 20 and still live with my parents but I'd say that's ok - anything over 30 is bad.MirkoS77

I've been fighting serious disease since right before my 21st b-day. I'm now 34 and am living with my parents (and just stopped treatment in July), and am now in school to become a chef. Would you say that's bad? I really don't like inviting people over to where I live because in all honesty I'm ashamed and very sensitive about the fact I'm with my parents at such an age. Especially with women. But then again, my entire twenties and early thirties were spent simply trying to survive through miserable physical and mental turmoil. I had no time for school or becoming skilled in trade, I was simply struggling to keep my head above water.

Now things are stable for the time being. But I don't think many people will understand how my past has affected the present. They just see a guy who's approaching middle-age living with his ma and pa and think "that's pathetic". Having been away from home before makes me miss it all the more, even though I do enjoy their company and we live in a beautiful area.

Oh hi this topic.

I almost thought I wouldn't see you this week.

Yes I do, I'm 19 and a junior in college. No excuses or denying it's the easy way either, but I don't regret it, nor am I overly worried about the day I move out. I'm just trying to stay focused atm.

I'm 23 and living with my parents, but that's normal where I'm from.

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"]I'm 20 and still live with my parents but I'd say that's ok - anything over 30 is bad.DarthJohnova

I've been fighting serious disease since right before my 21st b-day. I'm now 34 and am living with my parents (and just stopped treatment in July), and am now in school to become a chef. Would you say that's bad? I really don't like inviting people over to where I live because in all honesty I'm ashamed and very sensitive about the fact I'm with my parents at such an age. Especially with women. But then again, my entire twenties and early thirties were spent simply trying to survive through miserable physical and mental turmoil. I had no time for school or becoming skilled in trade, I was simply struggling to keep my head above water.

Now things are stable for the time being. But I don't think many people will understand how my past has affected the present. They just see a guy who's approaching middle-age living with his ma and pa and think "that's pathetic". Having been away from home before makes me miss it all the more, even though I do enjoy their company and we live in a beautiful area.

Thanks. It's weird, I don't know how to feel at this point. I'm very proud to be here and what I've endured, yet I'm ashamed because I don't support myself at this age even though I have a very legitimate reason. I still see judgement from people every once in a while.