Is horror a respected genre?

[QUOTE="TheZ3nMan"]Poltergeist. Not one person dies. No one is even gravely injured. Just creepy stuff that screws with your mind.CrimzonTide

Yup. One of my favorites of all time.:DTheZ3nMan

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]

Dagon is a bit cheesy, the guy who did re animator did it so its not really that scary. From Beyond is one of the best though, so is in the mouth of madness. Check out those 2 and dagon. Lovecraft has not really been done in the best way though, I would love to see a good movie adaptation of the shadow over innsmouth though wouldnt you?

blooddemon666

The adaptation I REALLY want to see was suppossedly going to be done but just never happened: Fatal Frame 2

Yes it is a game, but the game is scarier than any movie I have ever scene. The cutscenes in it are just incredibly scary and the game lends itself pefectly to a great movie adaptation in part of these cutscenes.

Heres my fav cutscene

[QUOTE="TheZ3nMan"]Yup. One of my favorites of all time.:DCrimzonTide

The plot in Saw blows away almost every modern day movie and the ending does in fact blow away all other endings....

The gore was just part of the setting, not the focus. Go rewatch it and you will see this.

[QUOTE="TheZ3nMan"]Yup. One of my favorites of all time.:DCrimzonTide

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]wow you are very ignorant of good horror movies areant you? Do you really think all horror movies are Primitive violence and senseless desturction? Im kind of hoping this is a joke, because nobody can be that uninformed.CrimzonTide

How about the original Halloween? Outside of a dead body laying unseen by Loomis in a bush, there is no blood in what is arguably the greatest horror film ever crafted.

The plot in Saw blows away almost every modern day movie and the ending does in fact blow away all other endings...The gore was just part of the setting, not the focus. Go rewatch it and you will see this.Thechaninator

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]wow you are very ignorant of good horror movies areant you? Do you really think all horror movies are Primitive violence and senseless desturction? Im kind of hoping this is a joke, because nobody can be that uninformed.CrimzonTide

1408 is one that has barely any blood, and when It does it is not from a person.

The others

The changeling

shutter

A tale of two sisters

Kairo

The orphanage

Spoorloos

Jacobs ladder

below

How about the original Halloween? Outside of a dead body laying unseen by Loomis in a bush, there is no blood in what is argubably the greatest horror film ever crafted.Saruman1719

[QUOTE="Thechaninator"]The plot in Saw blows away almost every modern day movie and the ending does in fact blow away all other endings...The gore was just part of the setting, not the focus. Go rewatch it and you will see this.CrimzonTide

The gore in the movie wasn't THAT bad.....

The adaptation I REALLY want to see was suppossedly going to be done but just never happened: Fatal Frame 2

Yes it is a game, but the game is scarier than any movie I have ever scene. The cutscenes in it are just incredibly scary and the game lends itself pefectly to a great movie adaptation in part of these cutscenes.

Heres my fav cutscene

Thechaninator

I say that games should stay games and movies should stay movies, because one based on the other tend to be pretty crappy.

If they do make a fatal frame game, then just hope that grimey little american writers get their hands on it. they'd ruin it and probably just make it a gore fest.

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]

Dagon is a bit cheesy, the guy who did re animator did it so its not really that scary. From Beyond is one of the best though, so is in the mouth of madness. Check out those 2 and dagon. Lovecraft has not really been done in the best way though, I would love to see a good movie adaptation of the shadow over innsmouth though wouldnt you?

blooddemon666

What about dreams in the witch house or the call of cthulhu?

[QUOTE="Thechaninator"]

The adaptation I REALLY want to see was suppossedly going to be done but just never happened: Fatal Frame 2

Yes it is a game, but the game is scarier than any movie I have ever scene. The cutscenes in it are just incredibly scary and the game lends itself pefectly to a great movie adaptation in part of these cutscenes.

Heres my fav cutscene

blooddemon666

I say that games should stay games and movies should stay movies, because one based on the other tend to be pretty crappy.

If they do make a fatal frame game, then just hope that grimey little american writers get their hands on it. they'd ruin it and probably just make it a gore fest.

I kinda liked the silent hill movie though:)

[QUOTE="Saruman1719"]How about the original Halloween? Outside of a dead body laying unseen by Loomis in a bush, there is no blood in what is argubably the greatest horror film ever crafted.CrimzonTide

Well, my friend, that's the problem right there. Much like other people, you're throwing a blanket statement on a hundred years worth of cinema, without seeing any of the films that helped shaped the genre. You're watching Hostel and Saw, and those are hardly indicative of what horror films are. Another good example for you to see is the original The Haunting.

1408 is one that has barely any blood, and when It does it is not from a person. The others The changeling shutter A tale of two sisters Kairo The orphanage Spoorloos Jacobs ladde belowFilm-Guy

What about dreams in the witch house or the call of cthulhu?

Film-Guy

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]1408 is one that has barely any blood, and when It does it is not from a person. The others The changeling shutter A tale of two sisters Kairo The orphanage Spoorloos Jacobs ladde belowCrimzonTide

A tale of two sisters is from 2004 I believe, the orphanage is from this year, Kairo is from 2001 and shutter is from 2004:D

I kinda liked the silent hill movie though:)

Film-Guy

Well, my friend, that's the problem right there. Much like other people, you're throwing a blanket statement on a hundred years worth of cinema, without seeing any of the films that helped shaped the genre. You're watching Hostel and Saw, and those are hardly indicative of what horror films are. Another good example for you to see is the original The Haunting. Saruman1719

Movies like The Shining, Alien, The Howling, Halloween, Carrie, Psycho, The Exorcist, and Poltergeist are the best the genre has ever offered. Yea there's been a few good movies here and there recently in the horror genre, but IMO they're nothing compared to the oldies that set the standard.

Good stuff.

Rekunta

You don't see horror movies winning many awards, but I disagree that they aren't respected by critics. You see plenty of critics giving high marks to movies such as The Mist, The Descent, and even the Dawn of the Dead remake.

Granted, critics probably don't respect them in the same way that they respect serious dramas, but I think that critics are fair. They can recognize a damn fine horror movie, and praise it accordingly.

Edit: And no, Saw wasn't good. At best, it was a crappy movie with the potential to be good, then they went and wasted that potential when they made the sequels.

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]

What about dreams in the witch house or the call of cthulhu?

blooddemon666

hes got a lot of great stories, I have 2 short story collections by him, and An Edgar allen poe collection too:D Poe stories dont really translate well to screen much either do they?

A tale of two sisters is from 2004 I believe, the orphanage is from this year, Kairo is from 2001 and shutter is from 2004:DFilm-Guy

The gore in the movie wasn't THAT bad.....Thechaninator

[QUOTE="blooddemon666"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"]

What about dreams in the witch house or the call of cthulhu?

Film-Guy

hes got a lot of great stories, I have 2 short story collections by him, and An Edgar allen poe collection too:D Poe stories dont really translate well to screen much either do they?

fun fact: I started reading poe in the 2nd grade:P no lie.

[QUOTE="Saruman1719"]How about the original Halloween? Outside of a dead body laying unseen by Loomis in a bush, there is no blood in what is argubably the greatest horror film ever crafted.CrimzonTide

Never seen the original Halloween?? Wow. It's arguably one of the best horror movies ever created. You don't have the right to discuss horror movies until you've seen it! j/k :P

[QUOTE="Saruman1719"]Well, my friend, that's the problem right there. Much like other people, you're throwing a blanket statement on a hundred years worth of cinema, without seeing any of the films that helped shaped the genre. You're watching Hostel and Saw, and those are hardly indicative of what horror films are. Another good example for you to see is the original The Haunting. CrimzonTide

Body snatchers is great, which one are you reffering to though? Theres the 50s, 70s, 90s and 00s versions. I think the 70s version is the best though:D Wait isnt them the giant ant movie? Cause there is another them movie from 2006.

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]A tale of two sisters is from 2004 I believe, the orphanage is from this year, Kairo is from 2001 and shutter is from 2004:DCrimzonTide

That's another thing. While I understand that maybe you're not a big horror film fan, it is much like any other area of interest these days. If you want the true gems, you have to look for what's out there, beside what is playing at your local theater. Film-Guy has listed some superb recent choices that fit your style and I endorse them as well.

movies suck in general.allen9119

Body snatchers is great, which one are you reffering to though? Theres the 50s, 70s, 90s and 00s versions. I think the 70s version is the best though:D Wait isnt them the giant ant movie? Cause there is another them movie from 2006.Film-Guy

[QUOTE="Thechaninator"]

The adaptation I REALLY want to see was suppossedly going to be done but just never happened: Fatal Frame 2

Yes it is a game, but the game is scarier than any movie I have ever scene. The cutscenes in it are just incredibly scary and the game lends itself pefectly to a great movie adaptation in part of these cutscenes.

Heres my fav cutscene

blooddemon666

I say that games should stay games and movies should stay movies, because one based on the other tend to be pretty crappy.

If they do make a fatal frame game, then just hope that grimey little american writers get their hands on it. they'd ruin it and probably just make it a gore fest.

You couldn't make it a gorefest. THere is not one single death scene in that game....

It is all about sisters who get themselves stuck in a ghost village that suppossedly dissapeared. They find a camera that allows them to see spirits and that also helps exorcise them. The camera mechanic has tons of potential for scares. I have had at least one instance where I pulled up my camera just to find a ghost that I previously couldn't see. Scary ass crap right there.....

Oh and the Silent Hill movie was alright. The visuals in the film were freaking amazing!

[QUOTE="allen9119"]movies suck in general.TheZ3nMan

Youfoundmyweakness,thatmovieisepic.

[QUOTE="CrimzonTide"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"]A tale of two sisters is from 2004 I believe, the orphanage is from this year, Kairo is from 2001 and shutter is from 2004:DSaruman1719

That's another thing. While I understand that maybe you're not a big horror film fan, it is much like any other area of interest these days. If you want the true gems, you have to look for what's out there, beside what is playing at your local theater. Film-Guy has listed some superb recent choices that fit your style and I endorse them as well.

thank you:P Its tough to find good recent horror, but when you do its very satisfying. Did you see the movie Them? not the giant ant one, the one that came out last year.

[QUOTE="CrimzonTide"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"]wow you are very ignorant of good horror movies areant you? Do you really think all horror movies are Primitive violence and senseless desturction? Im kind of hoping this is a joke, because nobody can be that uninformed.Film-Guy

1408 is one that has barely any blood, and when It does it is not from a person.

The others

The changeling

shutter

A tale of two sisters

Kairo

The orphanage

Spoorloos

Jacobs ladder

below

The Others was a nice little surprise for me. Mainly because I hadn't heard anything about it and was expecting it to be some lame-ass sissy horror movie for pre-teens, but I was pleasantly surprised. I thought that one was very nicely done. I saw the ending coming from a mile away, but still...

That's another thing. While I understand that maybe you're not a big horror film fan, it is much like any other area of interest these days. If you want the true gems, you have to look for what's out there, beside what is playing at your local theater. Film-Guy has listed some superb recent choices that fit your style and I endorse them as well.Saruman1719

[QUOTE="Rekunta"]

Movies like The Shining, Alien, The Howling, Halloween, Carrie, Psycho, The Exorcist, and Poltergeist are the best the genre has ever offered. Yea there's been a few good movies here and there recently in the horror genre, but IMO they're nothing compared to the oldies that set the standard.

Good stuff.

MrGeezer

You don't see horror movies winning many awards, but I disagree that they aren't respected by critics. You see plenty of critics giving high marks to movies such as The Mist, The Descent, and even the Dawn of the Dead remake.

Granted, critics probably don't respect them in the same way that they respect serious dramas, but I think that critics are fair. They can recognize a damn fine horror movie, and praise it accordingly.

Edit: And no, Saw wasn't good. At best, it was a crappy movie with the potential to be good, then they went and wasted that potential when they made the sequels.

Yea, I thought Saw was an enjoyable popcorn flick, but easily forgotten once the credits rolled. It definitely should have ended after the first one.

[QUOTE="blooddemon666"][QUOTE="Thechaninator"]

The adaptation I REALLY want to see was suppossedly going to be done but just never happened: Fatal Frame 2

Yes it is a game, but the game is scarier than any movie I have ever scene. The cutscenes in it are just incredibly scary and the game lends itself pefectly to a great movie adaptation in part of these cutscenes.

Heres my fav cutscene

Thechaninator

I say that games should stay games and movies should stay movies, because one based on the other tend to be pretty crappy.

If they do make a fatal frame game, then just hope that grimey little american writers get their hands on it. they'd ruin it and probably just make it a gore fest.

You couldn't make it a gorefest. THere is not one single death scene in that game....

It is all about sisters who get themselves stuck in a ghost village that suppossedly dissapeared. They find a camera that allows them to see spirits and that also helps exorcise them. The camera mechanic has tons of potential for scares. I have had at least one instance where I pulled up my camera just to find a ghost that I previously couldn't see. Scary ass crap right there.....

Oh and the Silent Hill movie was alright. The visuals in the film were freaking amazing!

It would be interesting to see a Fatal Frame film, and then compare it to Shutter.

I was rather fond of Silent Hill as well. Like you said, the visuals were outstanding and I thought they captured the suffocating atmosphere from the game spot on.

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]Body snatchers is great, which one are you reffering to though? Theres the 50s, 70s, 90s and 00s versions. I think the 70s version is the best though:D Wait isnt them the giant ant movie? Cause there is another them movie from 2006.CrimzonTide

The 50s and 70s version were both grat, i prefer the 70s versions ending though. dont watch the recent invasion remake or the 90s one, both severly dissapointing.

awesome:D

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]

[QUOTE="CrimzonTide"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"]wow you are very ignorant of good horror movies areant you? Do you really think all horror movies are Primitive violence and senseless desturction? Im kind of hoping this is a joke, because nobody can be that uninformed.MrGeezer

1408 is one that has barely any blood, and when It does it is not from a person.

The others

The changeling

shutter

A tale of two sisters

Kairo

The orphanage

Spoorloos

Jacobs ladder

below

The Others was a nice little surprise for me. Mainly because I hadn't heard anything about it and was expecting it to be some lame-ass sissy horror movie for pre-teens, but I was pleasantly surprised. I thought that one was very nicely done. I saw the ending coming from a mile away, but still...

The Others was definitely superb. I adore Nicole Kidman as it is, but the highlight of the movie is how much it reminded me of c.l.a.s.s.i.c. old school ghost movies.

[QUOTE="Saruman1719"]

[QUOTE="CrimzonTide"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"]A tale of two sisters is from 2004 I believe, the orphanage is from this year, Kairo is from 2001 and shutter is from 2004:DFilm-Guy

That's another thing. While I understand that maybe you're not a big horror film fan, it is much like any other area of interest these days. If you want the true gems, you have to look for what's out there, beside what is playing at your local theater. Film-Guy has listed some superb recent choices that fit your style and I endorse them as well.

thank you:P Its tough to find good recent horror, but when you do its very satisfying. Did you see the movie Them? not the giant ant one, the one that came out last year.

No, I haven't. I was reading a list where Friedkin, director of The Exorcist, named it among his favorites....so it made me wonder a bit.

awesome:DFilm-Guy

[QUOTE="Thechaninator"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"][QUOTE="Thechaninator"]

The adaptation I REALLY want to see was suppossedly going to be done but just never happened: Fatal Frame 2

Yes it is a game, but the game is scarier than any movie I have ever scene. The cutscenes in it are just incredibly scary and the game lends itself pefectly to a great movie adaptation in part of these cutscenes.

Heres my fav cutscene

Saruman1719

I say that games should stay games and movies should stay movies, because one based on the other tend to be pretty crappy.

If they do make a fatal frame game, then just hope that grimey little american writers get their hands on it. they'd ruin it and probably just make it a gore fest.

You couldn't make it a gorefest. THere is not one single death scene in that game....

It is all about sisters who get themselves stuck in a ghost village that suppossedly dissapeared. They find a camera that allows them to see spirits and that also helps exorcise them. The camera mechanic has tons of potential for scares. I have had at least one instance where I pulled up my camera just to find a ghost that I previously couldn't see. Scary ass crap right there.....

Oh and the Silent Hill movie was alright. The visuals in the film were freaking amazing!

It would be interesting to see a Fatal Frame film, and then compare it to Shutter.

I was rather fond of Silent Hill as well. Like you said, the visuals were outstanding and I thought they captured the suffocating atmosphere from the game spot on.

I should probably check out shutter then if it is any way comparable to Fatal Frame....

The addition of the decaying world thing was what stood out to me the most. Hearing that siren just sent chills down my spine. The only use of sound that I like more than that siren movie wise would have to be the use of the song "In the house, a heartbeat" in 28 Weeks Later. That song just blows my mind at how well it captures the feeling of the movie and it was used at such great times in the movie.

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="Saruman1719"]

[QUOTE="CrimzonTide"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"]A tale of two sisters is from 2004 I believe, the orphanage is from this year, Kairo is from 2001 and shutter is from 2004:DSaruman1719

That's another thing. While I understand that maybe you're not a big horror film fan, it is much like any other area of interest these days. If you want the true gems, you have to look for what's out there, beside what is playing at your local theater. Film-Guy has listed some superb recent choices that fit your style and I endorse them as well.

thank you:P Its tough to find good recent horror, but when you do its very satisfying. Did you see the movie Them? not the giant ant one, the one that came out last year.

No, I haven't. I was reading a list where Friedkin, director of The Exorcist, named it among his favorites....so it made me wonder a bit.

its really good, but the twist ending may piss you off, a lot. It may make you want to punch a small child.

[QUOTE="Saruman1719"][QUOTE="Thechaninator"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"][QUOTE="Thechaninator"]

The adaptation I REALLY want to see was suppossedly going to be done but just never happened: Fatal Frame 2

Yes it is a game, but the game is scarier than any movie I have ever scene. The cutscenes in it are just incredibly scary and the game lends itself pefectly to a great movie adaptation in part of these cutscenes.

Heres my fav cutscene

Thechaninator

I say that games should stay games and movies should stay movies, because one based on the other tend to be pretty crappy.

If they do make a fatal frame game, then just hope that grimey little american writers get their hands on it. they'd ruin it and probably just make it a gore fest.

You couldn't make it a gorefest. THere is not one single death scene in that game....

It is all about sisters who get themselves stuck in a ghost village that suppossedly dissapeared. They find a camera that allows them to see spirits and that also helps exorcise them. The camera mechanic has tons of potential for scares. I have had at least one instance where I pulled up my camera just to find a ghost that I previously couldn't see. Scary ass crap right there.....

Oh and the Silent Hill movie was alright. The visuals in the film were freaking amazing!

It would be interesting to see a Fatal Frame film, and then compare it to Shutter.

I was rather fond of Silent Hill as well. Like you said, the visuals were outstanding and I thought they captured the suffocating atmosphere from the game spot on.

I should probably check out shutter then if it is any way comparable to Fatal Frame....

The addition of the decaying world thing was what stood out to me the most. Hearing that siren just sent chills down my spine. The only use of sound that I like more than that siren movie wise would have to be the use of the song "In the house, a heartbeat" in 28 Weeks Later. That song just blows my mind at how well it captures the feeling of the movie and it was used at such great times in the movie.

yeah in the house, a heartbeat was used very well in 28 weeks later. But I thought it worked better in 28 days later.

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]awesome:DCrimzonTide

You know what you should watch if you like cheesy horror? Slither:D

that and Feast.

Chaninator,

I just rented Gingersnap after reading what you said about it in another thread, and it was pretty enjoyable. Is the sequel as good as the first?

[QUOTE="Saruman1719"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="Saruman1719"]

[QUOTE="CrimzonTide"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"]A tale of two sisters is from 2004 I believe, the orphanage is from this year, Kairo is from 2001 and shutter is from 2004:DFilm-Guy

That's another thing. While I understand that maybe you're not a big horror film fan, it is much like any other area of interest these days. If you want the true gems, you have to look for what's out there, beside what is playing at your local theater. Film-Guy has listed some superb recent choices that fit your style and I endorse them as well.

thank you:P Its tough to find good recent horror, but when you do its very satisfying. Did you see the movie Them? not the giant ant one, the one that came out last year.

No, I haven't. I was reading a list where Friedkin, director of The Exorcist, named it among his favorites....so it made me wonder a bit.

its really good, but the twist ending may piss you off, a lot. It may make you want to punch a small child.

*Adds another one to the list* I'll watch just about anything when it comes to horror. If I can stomach trash like A Night to Dismember, Don't Open Till Christmas, Camp Blood, and so on, I'm sure I can find the time to take a chance on Them.

[QUOTE="CrimzonTide"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"]awesome:DFilm-Guy

You know what you should watch if you like cheesy horror? Slither:D

that and Feast.

Honestly, I don't even consider those to be horror movies. Along with Tremors, I personally think of them almost more as action comedies. Doesn't make them any less good, I'm just saying.

[QUOTE="CrimzonTide"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"]awesome:DFilm-Guy

You know what you should watch if you like cheesy horror? Slither:D

that and Feast.

Good picks, and if we're going to recommend movies modeling themselves after 80's horror films, you can't go wrong with these: