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#101 Thechaninator
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Chaninator,

I just rented Gingersnap after reading what you said about it in another thread, and it was pretty enjoyable. Is the sequel as good as the first?

Rekunta

The sequel is just as enjoyable I think. The story and characters is what got me so interested in the original movie and the twist the story takes at the beginning of the 2nd is great.

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#102 CrimzonTide
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The Stuff...:lol: Looks perfect. :P
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#103 Film-Guy
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As long as we are on the subject of cheesy horror movies, who could forget these classics?

http://thisdistractedglobe.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/Night%20of%20the%20Comet%20poster%201.jpeg

http://www.impawards.com/2005/posters/undead.jpg

http://www.best-horror-movies.com/images/Sleepaway-Camp-movie-poster.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000AOX0D.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://www.headinjurytheater.com/images/ticks%20poster%201.jpg

http://www.oldies.com/i/boxart/large/40/089218402806.jpg

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#104 CrimzonTide
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Attack of the Giant Leeches, there we go. Right down my alley. :D I seem to remember "Gargoyles" being very good as well. :P
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#105 Hopkins_J
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Well, it's not respected by me. To me, it's just 1 to 2 hours of blood, gore, violence, and things I don't care to see.Shiggums

Here are some horror movies that don't have blood at all.

Movies like: Halloween, The Blair Witch Project, Psycho, etc...

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#106 Saruman1719
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The Sleepaway Camp series is my God. Pieces might be the best in terms of combining cheesiness, badness, and overall total ineptness:

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#107 club-sandwich
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not by me anymore. I made a similar thread a few days ago about how horror movies now stink, it's all the same thing, horny teenagers, a crazy guy who will kill everybody for no reason at all and then just a bunch of blood and gore, and then a hot babe will kill the crazy guy and everyone will be happy again. that's all I see in horror movies nowadays ):
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#108 Film-Guy
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The Sleepaway Camp series is my God. Pieces might be the best in terms of combining cheesiness, badness, and overall total ineptness:

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Saruman1719

I saw that at a video store today:D What about this incredible film?

http://g-images.amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/ae/31/fdc992c008a001f29c887010.L.jpg

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#109 club-sandwich
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[QUOTE="Shiggums"]Well, it's not respected by me. To me, it's just 1 to 2 hours of blood, gore, violence, and things I don't care to see.Hopkins_J

Here are some horror movies that don't have blood at all.

Movies like: Halloween, The Blair Witch Project, Psycho, etc...

the original Halloween is pretty good, but the remake was pure crap... seriously it was all the same thing, sex, kill, blood and gore, repeat.
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#110 Film-Guy
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I just found the most ridiculous movie ever, look at this:lol:

http://www.charlesband.com/blog/archives/ChongtheBong.jpg

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Hey, does anyone remember a movie called Basket Case? I don't remember much about it, I haven't seen it in probably 20 years. But I recall it was about these two conjoined twins who were surgically separated. Anyway, one of the twins ended up looking normal, and the other twin was a little pint sized man eating mutant. So like, the normal brother carried around his mutant brother in a basket, and got revenge on people who made him mad by unleashing his mutant brother on them.
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#112 Film-Guy
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Hey, does anyone remember a movie called Basket Case? I don't remember much about it, I haven't seen it in probably 20 years. But I recall it was about these two conjoined twins who were surgically separated. Anyway, one of the twins ended up looking normal, and the other twin was a little pint sized man eating mutant. So like, the normal brother carried around his mutant brother in a basket, and got revenge on people who made him mad by unleashing his mutant brother on them.
MrGeezer

I remember that, they did a few sequels I believe.

http://membres.lycos.fr/ariochld/Images/BasketCase.jpg

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#113 Hopkins_J
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[QUOTE="Hopkins_J"]

[QUOTE="Shiggums"]Well, it's not respected by me. To me, it's just 1 to 2 hours of blood, gore, violence, and things I don't care to see.club-sandwich

Here are some horror movies that don't have blood at all.

Movies like: Halloween, The Blair Witch Project, Psycho, etc...

the original Halloween is pretty good, but the remake was pure crap... seriously it was all the same thing, sex, kill, blood and gore, repeat.

I agree with your 100%

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#114 Film-Guy
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[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="Hopkins_J"]

[QUOTE="Shiggums"]Well, it's not respected by me. To me, it's just 1 to 2 hours of blood, gore, violence, and things I don't care to see.Hopkins_J

Here are some horror movies that don't have blood at all.

Movies like: Halloween, The Blair Witch Project, Psycho, etc...

the original Halloween is pretty good, but the remake was pure crap... seriously it was all the same thing, sex, kill, blood and gore, repeat.

I agree with your 100%

Yeah the halloween remake was really bad. They really ruined it, and I was one of the few that actually liked H20!

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#115 xboxdudeman800
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"Horror" - not respected

Suspense - respected

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[QUOTE="Shiggums"]Well, it's not respected by me. To me, it's just 1 to 2 hours of blood, gore, violence, and things I don't care to see.Thechaninator

You need to watch better horror movies....

The Shining is always a great start (It seems as it is the non-horror fans horror film)

The Mist (The only real complaint I have heard about this movie is that it is talkative which is actually a plus for me)

28 Days Later (This isn't focused so much on blood and gore so much as the sheer awe of an abandoned Britain roaming with the "infected")

28dl? really? I think that was pretty bad. But I agree aboot Saw1 that movie was AWESOME and I think it's very uninformed when people compare it to HOSTEL. Only problem is the only recognition it got was from torture porn lovers and the sequals didn't quite manage to keep the standard.

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#117 Film-Guy
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"Horror" - not respected

Suspense - respected

xboxdudeman800

But suspense is what makes the best horror films great. I didnt know suspense had its own genre, I thought it was a technique used to build tension.

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#118 Fire_Ants
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It's easier to scare the **** outta people than it is to tell a good adventure/love/cheese story...
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#119 xboxdudeman800
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[QUOTE="xboxdudeman800"]

"Horror" - not respected

Suspense - respected

Film-Guy

But suspense is what makes the best horror films great. I didnt know suspense had its own genre, I thought it was a technique used to build tension.

Suspense is definatly utilized in horror films, but films in the "suspense" genre include things like mysteries whuch are very different than horror.

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#120 Film-Guy
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It's easier to scare the **** outta people than it is to tell a good adventure/love/cheese story...Fire_Ants

i dont think so, a lot of people are not easily scared. For example monsters and gore dont scare me.

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#121 Saruman1719
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I just found the most ridiculous movie ever, look at this:lol:

http://www.charlesband.com/blog/archives/ChongtheBong.jpg

Film-Guy

Ha ha, I remember seeing an ad for that in Rue Morgue magazine.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]Hey, does anyone remember a movie called Basket Case? I don't remember much about it, I haven't seen it in probably 20 years. But I recall it was about these two conjoined twins who were surgically separated. Anyway, one of the twins ended up looking normal, and the other twin was a little pint sized man eating mutant. So like, the normal brother carried around his mutant brother in a basket, and got revenge on people who made him mad by unleashing his mutant brother on them.
Film-Guy

I remember that, they did a few sequels I believe.

http://membres.lycos.fr/ariochld/Images/BasketCase.jpg

C.l.a.s.s.i.c. I've only seen the original myself. Good pick MrGeezer

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="xboxdudeman800"]

"Horror" - not respected

Suspense - respected

xboxdudeman800

But suspense is what makes the best horror films great. I didnt know suspense had its own genre, I thought it was a technique used to build tension.

Suspense is definatly utilized in horror films, but films in the "suspense" genre include things like mysteries whuch are very different than horror.

I don't know....suspense isn't really a genre. Sub-genre at best. As Film-Guy said, it is a technique. A mystery is its own genre, I would think.

[QUOTE="Fire_Ants"]It's easier to scare the **** outta people than it is to tell a good adventure/love/cheese story...Film-Guy

I dont think so, a lot of people are not easily scared. For example monsters and gore dont scare me.

I agree that horror is much harder to nail. Plus, you have to deal with people not letting themselves get fully engrossed by the film. It is possible that horror is one of the top genres where you have to let yourself get sucked into the film to get something out of it. That's why I always watch them by myself, preferably with the lights out. Too many times do I hear someone mention seeing an acclaimed "scary" film and then they're like "Yea, me and my friends was clowning on it the whole time"....well, obviously, how are you going to feel uneasy at all when you're sitting there with your buddies, being loud, drinking, lights on, not getting sucked into the film at all. There is the whole tough guy persona going on as well, where people won't allow themselves to show any fear.

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#122 Thechaninator
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Watching horror with other people is fun as hell because then you get to make fun of those who flip out!!!
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#123 Saruman1719
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Watching horror with other people is fun as hell because then you get to make fun of those who flip out!!!Thechaninator

Personally, the only time I like watching horror with other people is to have a good time with those movies that are obviously made for such an occasion, such as Army of Darkness, Bad Taste, Braindead, etc. But if we're talking about a good serious horror film like the original Halloween, the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Suspiria, and so on, everyone should just STFU....merely my individual preference.

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#124 Thechaninator
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[QUOTE="Thechaninator"]Watching horror with other people is fun as hell because then you get to make fun of those who flip out!!!Saruman1719

Personally, the only time I like watching horror with other people is to have a good time with those movies that are obviously made for such an occasion, such as Army of Darkness, Bad Taste, Braindead, etc. But if we're talking about a good serious horror film like the original Halloween, the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Suspiria, and so on, everyone should just STFU....merely my individual preference.

I must say that it can be a great indicator of whether or not a horror movie is good through group interaction.

I remember going with a friend and seeing that Darkness. God awful movie it was. The stupidity of the movie caused me to go on and on about it really being Michael Jackson going after the kid.....

On the other hand, good horror movies can make a theater silent. Sure I talked a bit through Saw but I am a loudmouth and tend to talk at least a little during movies. THe thing was I don't go making fun constantly when a movie is good. Just a few jokes here and there.

And to put it in perspective, The Ring had the theater very quiet. People were terrified and I ended up getting a kick when half the theater freaked out at the end when Samara came out of the tv.

That is once again preference though. I think good horror movies will get the audience silent due to their horror. I was actually silent through the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake because I was quite scared. It was pretty much the only time I have really been scared by a film.....

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#125 Saruman1719
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[QUOTE="Saruman1719"]

[QUOTE="Thechaninator"]Watching horror with other people is fun as hell because then you get to make fun of those who flip out!!!Thechaninator

Personally, the only time I like watching horror with other people is to have a good time with those movies that are obviously made for such an occasion, such as Army of Darkness, Bad Taste, Braindead, etc. But if we're talking about a good serious horror film like the original Halloween, the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Suspiria, and so on, everyone should just STFU....merely my individual preference.

I must say that it can be a great indicator of whether or not a horror movie is good through group interaction.

I remember going with a friend and seeing that Darkness. God awful movie it was. The stupidity of the movie caused me to go on and on about it really being Michael Jackson going after the kid.....

On the other hand, good horror movies can make a theater silent. Sure I talked a bit through Saw but I am a loudmouth and tend to talk at least a little during movies. THe thing was I don't go making fun constantly when a movie is good. Just a few jokes here and there.

And to put it in perspective, The Ring had the theater very quiet. People were terrified and I ended up getting a kick when half the theater freaked out at the end when Samara came out of the tv.

That is once again preference though. I think good horror movies will get the audience silent due to their horror. I was actually silent through the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake because I was quite scared. It was pretty much the only time I have really been scared by a film.....

That is a good point, I have to give you that. Your point about the remake of The Ring kind of amuses me, because of a similar experience with The Blair Witch Project. Both kept the audience quiet and I hardly think our respective theaters were the only ones across the nation to do. Yet, these are two good examples of films that people scorn these days and I don't hear anyone admit that either one scared them at all. People were so reeled in by the whole marketing ploy by BWP and from the way everyone acts, you would think that most didn't buy into it, which was certainly not the case. Thus, the tough guy persona rears it head once more.

But as said, all personal preference. A majority of the time, I just can't tolerate the questions, comments, and comedian act that comes along with watching movies with other people.

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#126 Thechaninator
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[QUOTE="Thechaninator"][QUOTE="Saruman1719"]

[QUOTE="Thechaninator"]Watching horror with other people is fun as hell because then you get to make fun of those who flip out!!!Saruman1719

Personally, the only time I like watching horror with other people is to have a good time with those movies that are obviously made for such an occasion, such as Army of Darkness, Bad Taste, Braindead, etc. But if we're talking about a good serious horror film like the original Halloween, the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Suspiria, and so on, everyone should just STFU....merely my individual preference.

I must say that it can be a great indicator of whether or not a horror movie is good through group interaction.

I remember going with a friend and seeing that Darkness. God awful movie it was. The stupidity of the movie caused me to go on and on about it really being Michael Jackson going after the kid.....

On the other hand, good horror movies can make a theater silent. Sure I talked a bit through Saw but I am a loudmouth and tend to talk at least a little during movies. THe thing was I don't go making fun constantly when a movie is good. Just a few jokes here and there.

And to put it in perspective, The Ring had the theater very quiet. People were terrified and I ended up getting a kick when half the theater freaked out at the end when Samara came out of the tv.

That is once again preference though. I think good horror movies will get the audience silent due to their horror. I was actually silent through the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake because I was quite scared. It was pretty much the only time I have really been scared by a film.....

That is a good point, I have to give you that. Your point about the remake of The Ring kind of amuses me, because of a similar experience with The Blair Witch Project. Both kept the audience quiet and I hardly think our respective theaters were the only ones across the nation to do. Yet, these are two good examples of films that people scorn these days and I don't hear anyone admit that either one scared them at all. People were so reeled in by the whole marketing ploy by BWP and from the way everyone acts, you would think that most didn't buy into it, which was certainly not the case. Thus, the tough guy persona rears it head once more.

But as said, all personal preference. A majority of the time, I just can't tolerate the questions, comments, and comedian act that comes along with watching movies with other people.

lol you would HATE seeing a movie with me then. I am easily the comedian and I just can't help myself sometimes.

Thinking about it now I was pretty silent during 28 Weeks Later except after the opening in which I couldn't help but remark that it was the greatest opening I had ever seen. I really like that movie too.

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#127 Saruman1719
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[QUOTE="Saruman1719"][QUOTE="Thechaninator"][QUOTE="Saruman1719"]

[QUOTE="Thechaninator"]Watching horror with other people is fun as hell because then you get to make fun of those who flip out!!!Thechaninator

Personally, the only time I like watching horror with other people is to have a good time with those movies that are obviously made for such an occasion, such as Army of Darkness, Bad Taste, Braindead, etc. But if we're talking about a good serious horror film like the original Halloween, the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Suspiria, and so on, everyone should just STFU....merely my individual preference.

I must say that it can be a great indicator of whether or not a horror movie is good through group interaction.

I remember going with a friend and seeing that Darkness. God awful movie it was. The stupidity of the movie caused me to go on and on about it really being Michael Jackson going after the kid.....

On the other hand, good horror movies can make a theater silent. Sure I talked a bit through Saw but I am a loudmouth and tend to talk at least a little during movies. THe thing was I don't go making fun constantly when a movie is good. Just a few jokes here and there.

And to put it in perspective, The Ring had the theater very quiet. People were terrified and I ended up getting a kick when half the theater freaked out at the end when Samara came out of the tv.

That is once again preference though. I think good horror movies will get the audience silent due to their horror. I was actually silent through the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake because I was quite scared. It was pretty much the only time I have really been scared by a film.....

That is a good point, I have to give you that. Your point about the remake of The Ring kind of amuses me, because of a similar experience with The Blair Witch Project. Both kept the audience quiet and I hardly think our respective theaters were the only ones across the nation to do. Yet, these are two good examples of films that people scorn these days and I don't hear anyone admit that either one scared them at all. People were so reeled in by the whole marketing ploy by BWP and from the way everyone acts, you would think that most didn't buy into it, which was certainly not the case. Thus, the tough guy persona rears it head once more.

But as said, all personal preference. A majority of the time, I just can't tolerate the questions, comments, and comedian act that comes along with watching movies with other people.

lol you would HATE seeing a movie with me then. I am easily the comedian and I just can't help myself sometimes.

Thinking about it now I was pretty silent during 28 Weeks Later except after the opening in which I couldn't help but remark that it was the greatest opening I had ever seen. I really like that movie too.

Hell, when I'm with people like you, I get embarrassed because I think everyone is like me...but then I remember and sit there brooding. :P See, the thing is when I'm watching, it is like I'm there, but then I hear someone from the "outside" world chattering away and I just get sucked right out.

I didn't really enjoy 28 Days Later, so I haven't bothered with the sequel yet. But nothing can top Suspiria's opening scene...nothing.

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#128 firebreathing
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Well, it's not respected by me. To me, it's just 1 to 2 hours of blood, gore, violence, and things I don't care to see.Shiggums

explain why jacobs ladder is so horrible. you could say the same thing about ANY genre, just generalize it with a few phrases and it seems boring.

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#129 Guiltfeeder566
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Most horror movies now a days are just crappy slashers/jumpers and are cheap all around. They all revolve around a shock factor, trying to be more gross then the others or hopping the get the most jumps out of the audinace, mostly through "monster rounding corcer really fast and blast the music at that point"
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#130 Myrkan
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Horror movies these days need to be more like The Shining. That was a good movie. Its creepy, but not gross, and it didnt really "scare" you to the point where you were looking over your shoulder every five seconds. Lots of movies these days focus on blood and gore and completely messed up characters. Instead of excellent story and great acting, they focus on trying to scare youinstead of creeping you out and give off a certain feeling. The Number23 was a good movie, a lot of people may disagree but I loved it. Its a great example for what a horror movie should be.
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#131 jlh47
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a well made horror movie is awesome. the ring. boogeyman was pretty good. i like the movies where it has some gore but stuff like hostel and saw isn't scary it's just sick...
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#132 YeahYes
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Well Stephen King sold an ass load of books to the world, but literary snobs call him a hack
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#133 metallica_fan42
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Not so much anymore. Horror movies have changed. They aren't about scaring you, but more about trying to gross you out. Most "horror" movies that have come out in the last few years have been nothing but gore fests.
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#134 AC_MNF
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Well, it's not respected by me. To me, it's just 1 to 2 hours of blood, gore, violence, and things I don't care to see.Shiggums

not all horror movies are like the ones you describe .have you seen any stephen king movie? (he is a writer) no all the movies made of his books are great but the well directed ones are just brilliant