Is it alright for a 19 year old guy to date a 15 year old girl?

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#51 DragonRebel0908
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[QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

[QUOTE="freek666"]

19/2+7=16.5

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Hugh Hefner dates 25-year olds and he's 83. We'll take that down to 82 to be an even number. 82/2+7=48. 48>25. Formula failed. No, being a rich man in a bath robe living in a mansion does not make him special.

If she is a mature and sweet young lady and you two love each other and have things in common, go for it man. Nothing wrong in age difference alone.

I believe it only applies for those underage, and if not, then he's breaking the rules.

Well I look at it in a different light. To me, it's more relative to the age difference in terms of percentage. Meaning that I see an 80-year old and a 25-year old the same as a 16-year old and a 5-year old.

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#52 DragonRebel0908
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]

[QUOTE="RJay123"]Laws aside, why exactly is it wrong? If they both care about each other, I don't see why not. We've been brainwashed to think it's wrong, but I believe that men are genetically programmed to be attracted to younger girls (I don't mean children, I mean 14-19)

bronxxbombers

Wow...maybe men from where you're from. I've always been attracted to older women. And if 2 people really love each other, then why not just wait till the girl is of reasonable age. You need to understand that this is more than just a legal issue. How would you feel if your 15 year old daughter, who might have just hit puberty, was going out with a 19 year old. I know that I would beat the living **** out of the guy.

And then get his butt thrown in jail/

Who? I believe the guy who beat the crap out of another guy should be more likely to go to jail.

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#53 Akm4everz
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it will be ok when you both are legal... then the age difference wont mean crap
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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] Wow...maybe men from where you're from. I've always been attracted to older women. And if 2 people really love each other, then why not just wait till the girl is of reasonable age. You need to understand that this is more than just a legal issue. How would you feel if your 15 year old daughter, who might have just hit puberty, was going out with a 19 year old. I know that I would beat the living **** out of the guy.

DragonRebel0908

And then get his butt thrown in jail/

Who? I believe the guy who beat the crap out of another guy should be more likely to go to jail.

Not if the guys is in an intimate relationship with a 15 year old. I think the whole town will beat the crap out of that guy.
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#55 muller39
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Nope I dont think that is right at all.

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#56 DigitalExile
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As a 20 year old I think the mind gap between a 15 and 20 year old isn't huge. A lot of 15 year olds can easily look older than they are, especially if they grow in the uhh... "right" areas. I'd say as long as intentions are innocent then there shouldn't be a big problem, but it's when you get people who think everything has to be about sex and then they freak out thinking the 19 year old is some predator when really he's just got the same maturity level/interests as a 15 year old.

In short, it CAN be innocent, but that really depends on intentions.

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#57 DragonRebel0908
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[QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"] And then get his butt thrown in jail/

bronxxbombers

Who? I believe the guy who beat the crap out of another guy should be more likely to go to jail.

Not if the guys is in an intimate relationship with a 15 year old. I think the whole town will beat the crap out of that guy.

Then I believe that everyone in town has serious aggression issues and should be restrained. I would say the town needed better townsfolk.

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As a 20 year old I think the mind gap between a 15 and 20 year old isn't huge. A lot of 15 year olds can easily look older than they are, especially if they grow in the uhh... "right" areas. I'd say as long as intentions are innocent then there shouldn't be a big problem, but it's when you get people who think everything has to be about sex and then they freak out thinking the 19 year old is some predator when really he's just got the same maturity level/interests as a 15 year old.

In short, it CAN be innocent, but that really depends on intentions.

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That's right.

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heck no, it isn't inside the range defined as Ay= Ao/2+7

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#60 muller39
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[QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

As a 20 year old I think the mind gap between a 15 and 20 year old isn't huge. A lot of 15 year olds can easily look older than they are, especially if they grow in the uhh... "right" areas. I'd say as long as intentions are innocent then there shouldn't be a big problem, but it's when you get people who think everything has to be about sex and then they freak out thinking the 19 year old is some predator when really he's just got the same maturity level/interests as a 15 year old.

In short, it CAN be innocent, but that really depends on intentions.

That's right.

They can look older doesnt mean they act older.
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#61 DragonRebel0908
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heck no, it isn't inside the range defined as Ay= Ao/2+7

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#62 black_cat19
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[QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

[QUOTE="freek666"]

19/2+7=16.5

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Hugh Hefner dates 25-year olds and he's 83. We'll take that down to 82 to be an even number. 82/2+7=48. 48>25. Formula failed. No, being a rich man in a bath robe living in a mansion does not make him special.

If she is a mature and sweet young lady and you two love each other and have things in common, go for it man. Nothing wrong in age difference alone.

I believe it only applies for those underage, and if not, then he's breaking the rules.

Yeah, because there's such a clear, pronounced difference between being 17 and being 19... :roll:

That law is completely arbitrary, there's no magical barrier you cross at 18 that suddenly makes you an adult, or at least there wasn't any until someone decided to legally put it there...

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#63 DigitalExile
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They can look older doesnt mean they act older.muller39
And I'm sure there's plenty of over 18's that act less mature than some 15 year olds.

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#64 Bulkycheese
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Down the track there might be problems but other then that its fine
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[QUOTE="freek666"]

[QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

Hugh Hefner dates 25-year olds and he's 83. We'll take that down to 82 to be an even number. 82/2+7=48. 48>25. Formula failed. No, being a rich man in a bath robe living in a mansion does not make him special.

If she is a mature and sweet young lady and you two love each other and have things in common, go for it man. Nothing wrong in age difference alone.

black_cat19

I believe it only applies for those underage, and if not, then he's breaking the rules.

Yeah, because there's such a clear, pronounced difference between being 17 and being 19... :roll:

That law is completely arbitrary, there's no magical barrier you cross at 18 that suddenly makes you an adult, or at least there wasn't any until someone decided to legally put it there...

Yes, but you're not getting off just because you think the law is stupid.
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Lol, its a little odd, but for some reason if you spin it the other way around, the guy is worshiped by all the other kids for how he got a 19 year old girlfriend.

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#67 DragonRebel0908
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[QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

As a 20 year old I think the mind gap between a 15 and 20 year old isn't huge. A lot of 15 year olds can easily look older than they are, especially if they grow in the uhh... "right" areas. I'd say as long as intentions are innocent then there shouldn't be a big problem, but it's when you get people who think everything has to be about sex and then they freak out thinking the 19 year old is some predator when really he's just got the same maturity level/interests as a 15 year old.

In short, it CAN be innocent, but that really depends on intentions.

muller39

That's right.

They can look older doesnt mean they act older.

Age in a number does not determine maturity.

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#68 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"] And then get his butt thrown in jail/

bronxxbombers

Who? I believe the guy who beat the crap out of another guy should be more likely to go to jail.

Not if the guys is in an intimate relationship with a 15 year old. I think the whole town will beat the crap out of that guy.

Seriously, if you went to court, I'm sure the jury and the judge would show you some leniency. No one likes child predators, not even convicted mass murderers/ rapists.
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#69 DragonRebel0908
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[QUOTE="freek666"]

[QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

Hugh Hefner dates 25-year olds and he's 83. We'll take that down to 82 to be an even number. 82/2+7=48. 48>25. Formula failed. No, being a rich man in a bath robe living in a mansion does not make him special.

If she is a mature and sweet young lady and you two love each other and have things in common, go for it man. Nothing wrong in age difference alone.

black_cat19

I believe it only applies for those underage, and if not, then he's breaking the rules.

Yeah, because there's such a clear, pronounced difference between being 17 and being 19... :roll:

That law is completely arbitrary, there's no magical barrier you cross at 18 that suddenly makes you an adult, or at least there wasn't any until someone decided to legally put it there...

Come on now. My thoughts exactly.

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#70 DragonRebel0908
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Lol, its a little odd, but for some reason if you spin it the other way around, the guy is worshiped by all the other kids for how he got a 19 year old girlfriend.

magnax1

Double standard right there. In that case, would the girl not be considered a "child predator"?

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I think a lot of people are exagerating things here... See, it wouldnt make him a pedophile.(look up definition) And im 99% sure it wouldnt be illegal for him to merely date her.(therefore he couldnt go to jail)
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[QUOTE="muller39"] They can look older doesnt mean they act older.DigitalExile

And I'm sure there's plenty of over 18's that act less mature than some 15 year olds.

Im not disputing that at all but it more likely that a 15 year old will be less mature than a 19 year old.
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[QUOTE="xionvalkyrie"] Yes, but you're not getting off just because you think the law is stupid.

Just because you're dating someone, doesn't mean you're going to have sex with him/her.
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#74 black_cat19
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[QUOTE="black_cat19"]

[QUOTE="freek666"]

I believe it only applies for those underage, and if not, then he's breaking the rules.

xionvalkyrie

Yeah, because there's such a clear, pronounced difference between being 17 and being 19... :roll:

That law is completely arbitrary, there's no magical barrier you cross at 18 that suddenly makes you an adult, or at least there wasn't any until someone decided to legally put it there...

Yes, but you're not getting off just because you think the law is stupid.

I didn't say I wanted to date the 15 year old, I'm 21 and dating a 20 year old, so don't even go there... ¬_¬

Anyway, just because the law HAS to be followed doesn't mean it's right, I still don't see anything wrong with the TC's scenario other than the arbitrary law that is in place.

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#75 bronxxbombers
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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

Who? I believe the guy who beat the crap out of another guy should be more likely to go to jail.

DragonRebel0908

Not if the guys is in an intimate relationship with a 15 year old. I think the whole town will beat the crap out of that guy.

Then I believe that everyone in town has serious aggression issues and should be restrained. I would say the town needed better townsfolk.

I say that I think your in a relationship with a girl alot younger then you, judging by your all-out defense if the OP.
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Need I say it?

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[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"]I think a lot of people are exagerating things here... See, it wouldnt make him a pedophile.(look up definition) And im 99% sure it wouldnt be illegal for him to merely date her.(therefore he couldnt go to jail)

Yes, it's legal for them to date, but he's risking an awful lot by doing so. The law has been extremely harsh on these kind of cases. Remember the case where high schoolers were convicted of distribution of child pornography because they sent naked pictures of themselves to their friends on their phones? Basically, a slight misunderstanding could easily land him in jail, simply because she's under 18.
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#78 DragonRebel0908
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[QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"] Not if the guys is in an intimate relationship with a 15 year old. I think the whole town will beat the crap out of that guy.bronxxbombers

Then I believe that everyone in town has serious aggression issues and should be restrained. I would say the town needed better townsfolk.

I say that I think your in a relationship with a girl alot younger then you, judging by your all-out defense if the OP.

I don't have a girlfriend but I do like a lot of girls who are several years younger than myself.

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[QUOTE="magnax1"]

Lol, its a little odd, but for some reason if you spin it the other way around, the guy is worshiped by all the other kids for how he got a 19 year old girlfriend.

DragonRebel0908

Double standard right there. In that case, would the girl not be considered a "child predator"?

The weird age Barrier thing makes no sense, from what I understand a 19 year old having sex with a 17 year old would be against the law the same way a 30 year old with a 12 year old would be. I understand they have to put a barrier somewhere, but it just doesn't work quite right.

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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

Who? I believe the guy who beat the crap out of another guy should be more likely to go to jail.

II_Seraphim_II

Not if the guys is in an intimate relationship with a 15 year old. I think the whole town will beat the crap out of that guy.

Seriously, if you went to court, I'm sure the jury and the judge would show you some leniency. No one likes child predators, not even convicted mass murderers/ rapists.

A 15 year old is not a child, and wouldn't be tried as oneo_O. You're also jumping to the conclusion that the 19 year old is having sex with the underaged girl

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#81 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="magnax1"]

Lol, its a little odd, but for some reason if you spin it the other way around, the guy is worshiped by all the other kids for how he got a 19 year old girlfriend.

DragonRebel0908

Double standard right there. In that case, would the girl not be considered a "child predator"?

I think its about size and strength. Think about it, a 15 year old guy could probably beat up a 19 year old woman or at least defend himself, but it usually doesn't work the other way around. Its like when you see the 300lbs body builder with the petite 95lbs girl and you say "damn, that's just wrong..." Also the double standard you talk about doesnt really exist. Think about it, girls like to have older guys. 15 year old girls will brag about being with 20 year old guys and all their girl friends act like "damn she got game." If people see the 20 y.o. guy with the 15 y.o. girl, the frown upon it. Now think of the flip-side: 15 y.o. guy with a 20 y.o. woman is called a pimp, but at the same time adults frown upon the conduct of the woman. So its pretty equal, the only reason you think there is bias is because its more common for men to go for younger girls than it is for woman to go for younger boys.
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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

Who? I believe the guy who beat the crap out of another guy should be more likely to go to jail.

II_Seraphim_II

Not if the guys is in an intimate relationship with a 15 year old. I think the whole town will beat the crap out of that guy.

Seriously, if you went to court, I'm sure the jury and the judge would show you some leniency. No one likes child predators, not even convicted mass murderers/ rapists.

So a 19 year old dating a 15 year old is automatically a child predator? Always? No alternatives? I couldn't possibly be an honest, normal relationship?

There's not even that big of a difference, they're both still teenagers...

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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

Then I believe that everyone in town has serious aggression issues and should be restrained. I would say the town needed better townsfolk.

DragonRebel0908

I say that I think your in a relationship with a girl alot younger then you, judging by your all-out defense if the OP.

I don't have a girlfriend but I do like a lot of girls who are several years younger than myself.

Thank god I dont live anywhere near you then.
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] I think its about size and strength. Think about it, a 15 year old guy could probably beat up a 19 year old woman or at least defend himself, but it usually doesn't work the other way around.

True, most guys can overpower a girl younger than them; however, don't underestimate a girl/woman's size. Just because someone is younger and smaller, doesn't mean they cannot hold their own.
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#87 magnax1
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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

I don't have a girlfriend but I do like a lot of girls who are several years younger than myself.

Lilyanne46

Thank god I dont live anywhere near you then.

^This.

So let me guess, you think a 30 year old guy dating a 25 year old girl is weird?

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[QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"] I say that I think your in a relationship with a girl alot younger then you, judging by your all-out defense if the OP.bronxxbombers

I don't have a girlfriend but I do like a lot of girls who are several years younger than myself.

Thank god I dont live anywhere near you then.

Well if you're shallow-minded enough to deem me or anyone else a "child predator" or whatever, then I wouldn't wanna hang out with you either. What does living near someone have to do with it? I wouldn't be bothering you.

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#90 bronxxbombers
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[QUOTE="Lilyanne46"]

[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"] Thank god I dont live anywhere near you then.magnax1

^This.

So let me guess, you think a 30 year old guy dating a 25 year old girl is weird?

No, I think a 19 year old dating a naive 15 year old is weird. The 15 year old is probaly clueless. The 19 year old could easily force her to physically or mentally do things she wouldnt want to do.
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Many states are enacting romeo and juliet laws which prevent you from going to jail as long as you are within a certain age of the minor. I think the current rule of thumb is 5 years, but it could easily depend on the area. Also romeo and juliet laws don't make it legal the just lower the punishment to fines, or community service.

Personally I don't see the problem, but I also went to a high school w/ daycare, and it wasn't uncommon to see guys in their mid to late 20s at formal dances. I know several girls that dated college age guys in high school, and they probably turned out a little better than the ones that waited till college to "experiment".

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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] I think its about size and strength. Think about it, a 15 year old guy could probably beat up a 19 year old woman or at least defend himself, but it usually doesn't work the other way around.ayanami_rei
True, most guys can overpower a girl younger than them; however, don't underestimate a girl/woman's size. Just because someone is younger and smaller, doesn't mean they cannot hold their own.

Girls are supposed to be equal in all ways to men, right? That's what they've been fighting for in the last couple centuries. I like younger girls in the way that I can adjust to them as human beings the same way as I adjust to someone older than me. I wouldn't try to overpower a girl. No matter the age, I see them as equal human beings to myself.

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[QUOTE="magnax1"]

[QUOTE="Lilyanne46"]

^This.

bronxxbombers

So let me guess, you think a 30 year old guy dating a 25 year old girl is weird?

No, I think a 19 year old dating a naive 15 year old is weird. The 15 year old is probaly clueless. The 19 year old could easily force her to physically or mentally do things she wouldnt want to do.

A 15 year old guy could most likely do the same thing. They want the same things a 19 year old guy does, and most likely are stronger than the girl to. I kind of doubt the 19 year old is much less naive than a 15 year old either.

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#94 ayanami_rei
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No, I think a 19 year old dating a naive 15 year old is weird. The 15 year old is probaly clueless. The 19 year old could easily force her to physically or mentally do things she wouldnt want to do.bronxxbombers
Just as someone her own age could? Just as that 19 year old could do to someone his own age? Just because you turn an adult, doesn't mean you're not naive anymore.

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#95 DucksBrains
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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

I don't have a girlfriend but I do like a lot of girls who are several years younger than myself.

DragonRebel0908

Thank god I dont live anywhere near you then.

Well if you're shallow-minded enough to deem me or anyone else a "child predator" or whatever, then I wouldn't wanna hang out with you either. What does living near someone have to do with it? I wouldn't be bothering you.

Honestly it sounds to me like he's pretending to be righteous against something that's common practice is nearly every society today.

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#96 black_cat19
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[QUOTE="magnax1"]

[QUOTE="Lilyanne46"]

^This.

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So let me guess, you think a 30 year old guy dating a 25 year old girl is weird?

No, I think a 19 year old dating a naive 15 year old is weird. The 15 year old is probaly clueless. The 19 year old could easily force her to physically or mentally do things she wouldnt want to do.

A 15 year old (regardless of gender) clueless in this day and age? :lol:

If she gets forced to do anything she doesn't want to do then the guy should definitely go to jail (regardless of age), but I seriously doubt there's anything about sex a 19 year old knows that a 15 year old doesn't...

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#97 PerilousWolf
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In aswer to the question. Yes, it is ok for a 19 year old to date a 15 year old girl.

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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="magnax1"]

So let me guess, you think a 30 year old guy dating a 25 year old girl is weird?

magnax1

No, I think a 19 year old dating a naive 15 year old is weird. The 15 year old is probaly clueless. The 19 year old could easily force her to physically or mentally do things she wouldnt want to do.

A 15 year old guy could most likely do the same thing. They want the same things a 19 year old guy does, and most likely are stronger than the girl to. I kind of doubt the 19 year old is much less naive than a 15 year old either.

No. Very likely, the 19 year old has some experience in the bedroom. 15 year old, not so much. at 19, your in college. Nuff said. Also, a girl would feel much freer to open up about being sexually abused by a 15 year old, then a 19 year old, who can twist her mind. Face it, a 19 year old guy, who is still interested in 15 year old girls, is likely to be a little cookoo.
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#99 DragonRebel0908
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[QUOTE="magnax1"]

[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"] No, I think a 19 year old dating a naive 15 year old is weird. The 15 year old is probaly clueless. The 19 year old could easily force her to physically or mentally do things she wouldnt want to do.bronxxbombers

A 15 year old guy could most likely do the same thing. They want the same things a 19 year old guy does, and most likely are stronger than the girl to. I kind of doubt the 19 year old is much less naive than a 15 year old either.

No. Very likely, the 19 year old has some experience in the bedroom. 15 year old, not so much. at 19, your in college. Nuff said. Also, a girl would feel much freer to open up about being sexually abused by a 15 year old, then a 19 year old, who can twist her mind. Face it, a 19 year old guy, who is still interested in 15 year old girls, is likely to be a little cookoo.

What if you haven't attended college? Then you're basically equal to a high schooler anyway.

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#100 ayanami_rei
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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"] No. Very likely, the 19 year old has some experience in the bedroom. 15 year old, not so much. at 19, your in college. Nuff said. Also, a girl would feel much freer to open up about being sexually abused by a 15 year old, then a 19 year old, who can twist her mind. Face it, a 19 year old guy, who is still interested in 15 year old girls, is likely to be a little cookoo.

Just because you're in college doesn't mean you're going to have sex, nor at 19, does it mean you're going to have sex. Apparently, no one waits anymore, but that's not the case, nor the matter at hand right now. A guy that is 15 can do the same thing to someone his own age, just as a 19 year old can to someone his own age. You don't have to have experience in the bed room to manipulate someone. And don't make the girl innocent either. Girls can be just as manipulative as the guy.