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And how she treats the current boyfriend is how she'll treat you.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]
All is fair in love and war.
tenaka2
It depends on both the situation and the people involved, I wouldn't generalise to much.
It's not a generalization. If someone doesn't prioritize commitment....they don't prioritize commitment.[QUOTE="tenaka2"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] And how she treats the current boyfriend is how she'll treat you. LJS9502_basic
It depends on both the situation and the people involved, I wouldn't generalise to much.
It's not a generalization. If someone doesn't prioritize commitment....they don't prioritize commitment. You can't prioritize commitment if you don't want to commit yourself. Maybe TC has the quality that the girl is looking for but her boyfriend doesn't. He won't find out unless he tries. It might go wrong but it may also make them both happier than they are now. I usually pursue the girl that I want. Unless her boyfriend's psychological profile has any disturbing points that might be a serious threat to my health.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]It's not a generalization. If someone doesn't prioritize commitment....they don't prioritize commitment. You can't prioritize commitment if you don't want to commit yourself. Maybe TC has the quality that the girl is looking for but her boyfriend doesn't. He won't find out unless he tries. It might go wrong but it may also make them both happier than they are now. Then she shouldn't be in a relationship should she?It depends on both the situation and the people involved, I wouldn't generalise to much.
Reptylus
You can't prioritize commitment if you don't want to commit yourself. Maybe TC has the quality that the girl is looking for but her boyfriend doesn't. He won't find out unless he tries. It might go wrong but it may also make them both happier than they are now. Then she shouldn't be in a relationship should she? Must be a great world you live in. Where nobody makes any mistakes in life and everyone is only attracted to their eternal partner and is happy ever after...[QUOTE="Reptylus"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] It's not a generalization. If someone doesn't prioritize commitment....they don't prioritize commitment. LJS9502_basic
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Then she shouldn't be in a relationship should she? Must be a great world you live in. Where nobody makes any mistakes in life and everyone is only attracted to their eternal partner and is happy ever after...Better than the world where commitment means nothing....;)[QUOTE="Reptylus"] You can't prioritize commitment if you don't want to commit yourself. Maybe TC has the quality that the girl is looking for but her boyfriend doesn't. He won't find out unless he tries. It might go wrong but it may also make them both happier than they are now.Reptylus
[QUOTE="tenaka2"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] And how she treats the current boyfriend is how she'll treat you. LJS9502_basic
It depends on both the situation and the people involved, I wouldn't generalise to much.
It's not a generalization. If someone doesn't prioritize commitment....they don't prioritize commitment.So is a womens partner is abusive she should still stay commited?
It's not a generalization. If someone doesn't prioritize commitment....they don't prioritize commitment.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]
It depends on both the situation and the people involved, I wouldn't generalise to much.
tenaka2
So is a womens partner is abusive she should still stay commited?
In that case she should have left the partner. Not waited until someone else came along. Though if she hasn't left an abusive partner for that reason....another guy isn't going to change her mind. Nonetheless....that is not the scope of this discussion.Might makes right. So as long as you are bigger than her current boyfriend, you are right to have feelings for her.
[QUOTE="tenaka2"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] And how she treats the current boyfriend is how she'll treat you. LJS9502_basic
It depends on both the situation and the people involved, I wouldn't generalise to much.
It's not a generalization. If someone doesn't prioritize commitment....they don't prioritize commitment. You make being in a relationship sound like somekind of duty. If she likes someone else more than she does her current partner then she should leave him. It would be wrong not to do so.damn and here my mighty self has never hunted tagged game.Might makes right. So as long as you are bigger than her current boyfriend, you are right to have feelings for her.
sonicare
[QUOTE="sonicare"]
Might makes right. So as long as you are bigger than her current boyfriend, you are right to have feelings for her.
damn and here my mighty self has never hunted tagged game. It's just like the discovery channel. The stonger male takes the prize. Some chest beating, head butting, and so forth.It's not a generalization. If someone doesn't prioritize commitment....they don't prioritize commitment. You make being in a relationship sound like somekind of duty. If she likes someone else more than she does her current partner then she should leave him. It would be wrong not to do so. If she isn't into her boyfriend....she shouldn't be in a relationship with him. Not that hard of a concept.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]
It depends on both the situation and the people involved, I wouldn't generalise to much.
toast_burner
I have no respect for anyone who would try to steal another persons girlfriend.
Give it up or wait till she breaks up with him. Really just get over it theres tons of other women in the world find another...
[QUOTE="toast_burner"]You make being in a relationship sound like somekind of duty. If she likes someone else more than she does her current partner then she should leave him. It would be wrong not to do so. If she isn't into her boyfriend....she shouldn't be in a relationship with him. Not that hard of a concept.Its not that black and white. Just because she likes someone more doesn't mean she doesn't like her current boyfriend.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] It's not a generalization. If someone doesn't prioritize commitment....they don't prioritize commitment. LJS9502_basic
If she isn't into her boyfriend....she shouldn't be in a relationship with him. Not that hard of a concept.Its not that black and white. Just because she likes someone more doesn't mean she doesn't like her current boyfriend. She shouldn't be in a relationship if someone is more interesting to her. :|[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]You make being in a relationship sound like somekind of duty. If she likes someone else more than she does her current partner then she should leave him. It would be wrong not to do so.
toast_burner
[QUOTE="toast_burner"]Its not that black and white. Just because she likes someone more doesn't mean she doesn't like her current boyfriend. She shouldn't be in a relationship if someone is more interesting to her. :|[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] If she isn't into her boyfriend....she shouldn't be in a relationship with him. Not that hard of a concept.LJS9502_basic
That would apply to almost every woman considering celebrities and how many women adore them. This whole area is quite complex and is not as black and white as you seem to think.
[QUOTE="toast_burner"]Its not that black and white. Just because she likes someone more doesn't mean she doesn't like her current boyfriend. She shouldn't be in a relationship if someone is more interesting to her. :| How is she supposed to know that she might like someone else more?[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] If she isn't into her boyfriend....she shouldn't be in a relationship with him. Not that hard of a concept.LJS9502_basic
My point is that if you meet someone you like more than your current partner then there is nothing wrong with leaving him/her for the new person.
She shouldn't be in a relationship if someone is more interesting to her. :|[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]Its not that black and white. Just because she likes someone more doesn't mean she doesn't like her current boyfriend.
tenaka2
That would apply to almost every woman considering celebrities and how many women adore them. This whole area is quite complex and is not as black and white as you seem to think.
That's not the same. Having a crush on a celebrity isn't the same thing as liking another human in close approximation than your partner.She shouldn't be in a relationship if someone is more interesting to her. :| How is she supposed to know that she might like someone else more?[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]Its not that black and white. Just because she likes someone more doesn't mean she doesn't like her current boyfriend.
toast_burner
My point is that if you meet someone you like more than your current partner then there is nothing wrong with leaving him/her for the new person.
Which leads back to my initial post.[QUOTE="toast_burner"]How is she supposed to know that she might like someone else more?[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] She shouldn't be in a relationship if someone is more interesting to her. :|LJS9502_basic
My point is that if you meet someone you like more than your current partner then there is nothing wrong with leaving him/her for the new person.
Which leads back to my initial post.Your initial post gave the impression that you think she would be in the wrong for leaving her boyfriendWhich leads back to my initial post.Your initial post gave the impression that you think she would be in the wrong for leaving her boyfriend My initial posts says if she doesn't value commitment....don't expect it will change with you...to paraphrase.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="toast_burner"] How is she supposed to know that she might like someone else more?
My point is that if you meet someone you like more than your current partner then there is nothing wrong with leaving him/her for the new person.
toast_burner
No matter how you feel it is arrogant to expect someone to rearrange a life that they are content with in order to fit you into it the way you'd like.
Unless the girl has various mental issues (which would then raise a question as to whether you persue her in any case too imo) it's pretty safe to say that she is content with the current partner she has chosen. If you approach her while she is still with him the chances are she will NOT suddenly realise she has been foolishly blind all the time but instead will probably be awkward around you from then on and any friendship you have will more than likely cease.
If she is - by some small chance - a fickle sort, then she may well leave him for you, and she may well leave you for someone else in the future too.
This. ^I don't think you could fall in love with her without knowing she has a boyfriend.
Edit: But whatever, I'll answer properly. You can't help who you develop feelings for, but finding out she has a boyfriend is a big sign that you should pursue other avenues.
DigitalExile
I'm torn on this issue. First off, you can't help who you have feelings for... so that is never wrong.
But on one hand, you could respect your friend and just leave them be. Yet on the other hand, what if she develops feelings for you as well? Should she have to stay with her boyfriend just because even though she has stronger feelings for you?
If she did leave her boyfriend for you, then should your boyfriend be mad? I mean, it's not anybody's fault that the stronger attraction is between her and you and not her and your friend.
I think cheating on somebody because of lust is wrong... but breaking up with somebody to be with somebody else that you have stronger feelings for is just being fair to yourself. It sucks for your friend if his girlfriend broke up with him for that reason, but it's for the best because it wouldn't be fair to him if she actually liked somebody more.
So I guess my conclusion is that the only thing that is wrong is cheating on somebody out of lust.
I'm torn on this issue. First off, you can't help who you have feelings for... so that is never wrong.
But on one hand, you could respect your friend and just leave them be. Yet on the other hand, what if she develops feelings for you as well? Should she have to stay with her boyfriend just because even though she has stronger feelings for you?
If she did leave her boyfriend for you, then should your boyfriend be mad? I mean, it's not anybody's fault that the stronger attraction is between her and you and not her and your friend.
I think cheating on somebody because of lust is wrong... but breaking up with somebody to be with somebody else that you have stronger feelings for is just being fair to yourself. It sucks for your friend if his girlfriend broke up with him for that reason, but it's for the best because it wouldn't be fair to him if she actually liked somebody more.
So I guess my conclusion is that the only thing that is wrong is cheating on somebody out of lust.
BMD004
This is a answer i'm looking for :)
This is a answer i'm looking for :)indzman
Indz do you know how long she has been going out with this guy?
I can't believe you'd willing put a girl through so much drama for selfish reasons :cry: Honestly if you make a move on a girl when she's with someone else chances are she'll hate you afterwards regardless. If the relationship isn't work for her she can end it on her very own. I'm sure she's a capable enough girl to be able to think for herself.
Seriously why would anyone think 'Oh I'm the one she must SECRETLY want.'? No, you're not. She doesn't. She's with someone else.
why would you want a girl who is so easily swayed or needs someone to latch on to. if a girl cant be single i dont think she is right for me, and if she hops from man to man i know she aint right for me. i have nothing against clean girls that have many partners but many "relationships" is a whole other issue.
[QUOTE="indzman"]This is a answer i'm looking for :)MissLibrarian
Indz do you know how long she has been going out with this guy?
I can't believe you'd willing put a girl through so much drama for selfish reasons :cry: Honestly if you make a move on a girl when she's with someone else chances are she'll hate you afterwards regardless. If the relationship isn't work for her she can end it on her very own. I'm sure she's a capable enough girl to be able to think for herself.
Seriously why would anyone think 'Oh I'm the one she must SECRETLY want.'? No, you're not. She doesn't. She's with someone else.
Miss L ?
My freind loves a girl and the girl has a soft corner for him . Unfortunately the girl has a boyfreind . My freind has absolutely no lust intention nor intention of cheating , he loves the girl very much . My freind didn't realised she had a b.f unfortunately and now hes in a dilemma :)
[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="sandlot76"]egosandlot76a baby, would you care to see my super ego? maybe if youre lucky i'll let my Id out ;)Oh...you know just what to say to make me go weak in the knees :| tire iron or chloroform :|
cant think of many other things that would make ones knees weak or why you would want someone to have weak knees.......
caveman ways too old school? :P[QUOTE="sandlot76"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] tire iron or chloroform :|Atmanix
Clubs are so B.C.
Before Chardonnay?Miss L ? My freind loves a girl and the girl has a soft corner for him . Unfortunately the girl has a boyfreind . My freind has absolutely no lust intention , he loves the girl very much . My freind didn't realised she had a b.f unfortunately and now hes in a dilemma :)indzman
'A soft corner' I love that! :)
I get what you mean, it's not your friend's fault if he developed feelings for this woman without realising she has a boyfriend already, and if she has a soft spot for you ...r friend I mean then I can see why it's frustrating/confusing. It's also suspect on her part that she didn't let your friend know she had a boyfriend early on in their acquaintance.
But it's not right to 'force' her into making major decisions about her life by your friend trying to woo her. If her relationship is bad and she prefer your friend then she may well leave her boyfriend for him in the near future but it should be her decision and no-one else. 'Til her relationship ends the only thing your friend can/should do is either stay friends with her and wait for her to be single again or find one of the many lovely single girls out there who would like an uncomplicated courtship with a nice young man.
[QUOTE="indzman"]Miss L ? My freind loves a girl and the girl has a soft corner for him . Unfortunately the girl has a boyfreind . My freind has absolutely no lust intention , he loves the girl very much . My freind didn't realised she had a b.f unfortunately and now hes in a dilemma :)MissLibrarian
'A soft corner' I love that! :)
I get what you mean, it's not your friend's fault if he developed feelings for this woman without realising she has a boyfriend already, and if she has a soft spot for you ...r friend I mean then I can see why it's frustrating/confusing. It's also suspect on her part that she didn't let your friend know she had a boyfriend early on in their acquaintance.
But it's not right to 'force' her into making major decisions about her life by your friend trying to woo her. If her relationship is bad and she prefer your friend then she may well leave her boyfriend for him in the near future but it should be her decision and no-one else. 'Til her relationship ends the only thing your friend can/should do is either stay friends with her and wait for her to be single again or find one of the many lovely single girls out there who would like an uncomplicated courtship with a nice young man.
He has to let go eventually . Its already complicated .
He never forced her , he also can't forget her . Hes trying to forget , but i understand its very hard for him atm . I've been heartbroken myself in past and know how my freind feels atm .
And i also know on one can be happy by breaking anothers home . Only time can heal my freind and the situation . How would i feel if my own g.f left me for another man ? Life is complicated , you have to make wise decisions and sacrifices for better .
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