Is smoking marijuana a victimless crime?

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#1 Tony-Harrison
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Most people you watch on TV have done it.
David Cameron, leader of the conservative shadow government of Great Britain has done it.
Cannabis residue was found after a chemical analysis of Einsteins pipes.
Most musicians and artists have done it.
Iron Maiden haven't done it though.

Towlie did it.

Who where the victims in all of these cases?

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the only victim is the person taking it and i have never had any problems other than lack of money.

by the way i found the image very helpful.

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#3 freshgman
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there are no victims. i do it like a couple of times year. its like getting drunk as long as you dont drive your good
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#4 Tony-Harrison
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the only victim is the person taking it and i have never had any problems other than lack of money.geodisicdome

I used to grow on the roadsides of America. Sad that such a wonderful plant has been demonized by the majority.

edit. The letter t is missing from the above sentence.


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OMG I want it

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#6 Siofen
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Everytime a joint is lit there is a victim.. The more marijuana you smoke, the less marijuana there is in the world for me. Tell me, Is there no victim worse??... The world is cruel place.
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#7 geodisicdome
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UOTE="Tony-Harrison"]

the only victim is the person taking it and i have never had any problems other than lack of money.geodisicdome

I used to grow on the roadsides of America. Sad that such a wonderful plant has been demonized by the majority.

edit. The letter t is missing from the above sentence.

on the roadsides? someone i met said he grew it on the banks of rivers but this was in the north of england.. i cant really see it working.

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#8 big_pimpin_99
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Second Hand Smoke? Not to mention if it has detrimental effects on a person's mind which may later lead to crime.
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#9 Tony-Harrison
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on the roadsides? someone i met said he grew it on the banks of rivers but this was in the north of england.. i cant really see it working.

geodisicdome

"It" used to grow along the roadsides.

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#10 Siofen
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Second Hand Smoke? Not to mention if it has detrimental effects on a person's mind which may later lead to crime.big_pimpin_99
Indeed, and that is the crime of not sharing. Everyone is a victim then. :(
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#11 aaaaarrrrggggg
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Plants have feelings too man... They can feel it when you light them up. :(
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#12 Luminouslight
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Second Hand Smoke? Not to mention if it has detrimental effects on a person's mind which may later lead to crime.big_pimpin_99

There are no carcinogens in marujuana smoke, so it isn't dangerous to another person's health.

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#13 DeeJayInphinity
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on the roadsides? someone i met said he grew it on the banks of rivers but this was in the north of england.. i cant really see it working.

geodisicdome
Go to my hometown in mexico. :P There are no cops and a bunch of people grow it in their backyard. They get pissed if you smoke it but it's easy to hide it.
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some people thing it smells bad, thats it.
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#16 MotherSuperior
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Of course it is. The only side effect of smoking marijuana is extreme happiness. Oh, and munchies.
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#17 Myrkan
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Technically, it doesnt hurt anyone...Physically... But sometimes family members prefer going off to smoke it with their friends, or, when they come home from work, try to relax with their 'hobby' (bleh, yeah right, hobby) then it can cause some damage to family members, especially since pot will become a bigger focus in life, rather than family. Marijuana also screws with your head of course, another thing to consider. It also disables people, makes them alright with being bored, not being creative, instead pouring their free time into something that doesnt contribute to the world. Not really a victimless crime. Drugs are drugs, tobacco can cause lung cancer and various other things, leading to the loss of a family member, caffeine isnt good for you in some ways I'm sure, heroine, cocaine, all that stuff, alcohol, which isnt good for families or individuals at all with excessive use. And of course, Marijuana.

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Technically, it doesnt hurt anyone...Physically... But sometimes family members prefer going off to smoke it with their friends, or, when they come home from work, try to relax with their 'hobby' (bleh, yeah right, hobby) then it can cause some damage to family members, especially since pot will become a bigger focus in life, rather than family. Marijuana also screws with your head of course, another thing to consider. It also disables people, makes them alright with being bored, not being creative, instead pouring their free time into something that doesnt contribute to the world. Not really a victimless crime. Drugs are drugs, tobacco can cause lung cancer and various other things, leading to the loss of a family member, caffeine isnt good for you in some ways I'm sure, heroine, cocaine, all that stuff, alcohol, which isnt good for families or individuals at all with excessive use. And of course, Marijuana.

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Anything can lead to psychological addiction. Working out, games, writing, watching porn, eating, etc. :?
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#19 killerfist
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it is no crime where I live:P

and why should there be any victims:?

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The only victim is the person using it, jesus christ I could go for some right now though, a nice kingskin with some fresh Golden Virginia tobbaco and lovely fluffly weed that grinds up so well you can pack the joint like a suitcase, oh yeah that's the stuff.
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#22 Shiggums
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*waits for Dracargen to come in and point out how it isn't a victimless crime*
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Technically, it doesnt hurt anyone...Physically... But sometimes family members prefer going off to smoke it with their friends, or, when they come home from work, try to relax with their 'hobby' (bleh, yeah right, hobby) then it can cause some damage to family members, especially since pot will become a bigger focus in life, rather than family. Marijuana also screws with your head of course, another thing to consider. It also disables people, makes them alright with being bored, not being creative, instead pouring their free time into something that doesnt contribute to the world. Not really a victimless crime. Drugs are drugs, tobacco can cause lung cancer and various other things, leading to the loss of a family member, caffeine isnt good for you in some ways I'm sure, heroine, cocaine, all that stuff, alcohol, which isnt good for families or individuals at all with excessive use. And of course, Marijuana.

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#24 swizz-the-gamer
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*waits for Dracargen to come in and point out how it isn't a victimless crime*Shiggums
He has never ever given a valid reason. He just says it's pointless.
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#25 tsduv21
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The user is the victim.
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#26 swizz-the-gamer
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The user is the victim.tsduv21
So? People die from recreational sailing. Ban it?
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#27 Myrkan
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[QUOTE="Myrkan"]

Technically, it doesnt hurt anyone...Physically... But sometimes family members prefer going off to smoke it with their friends, or, when they come home from work, try to relax with their 'hobby' (bleh, yeah right, hobby) then it can cause some damage to family members, especially since pot will become a bigger focus in life, rather than family. Marijuana also screws with your head of course, another thing to consider. It also disables people, makes them alright with being bored, not being creative, instead pouring their free time into something that doesnt contribute to the world. Not really a victimless crime. Drugs are drugs, tobacco can cause lung cancer and various other things, leading to the loss of a family member, caffeine isnt good for you in some ways I'm sure, heroine, cocaine, all that stuff, alcohol, which isnt good for families or individuals at all with excessive use. And of course, Marijuana.

DeeJayInphinity

Anything can lead to psychological addiction. Working out, games, writing, watching porn, eating, etc. :?

I know. I'm just saying because of that Marijuana can indeed become dangerous.

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dude thats a sick bong... but mine tops it... i'll get a pic soon
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#29 longhorn7
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Technically, it doesnt hurt anyone...Physically... But sometimes family members prefer going off to smoke it with their friends, or, when they come home from work, try to relax with their 'hobby' (bleh, yeah right, hobby) then it can cause some damage to family members, especially since pot will become a bigger focus in life, rather than family. Marijuana also screws with your head of course, another thing to consider. It also disables people, makes them alright with being bored, not being creative, instead pouring their free time into something that doesnt contribute to the world. Not really a victimless crime. Drugs are drugs, tobacco can cause lung cancer and various other things, leading to the loss of a family member, caffeine isnt good for you in some ways I'm sure, heroine, cocaine, all that stuff, alcohol, which isnt good for families or individuals at all with excessive use. And of course, Marijuana.

Myrkan
did you really just claim that potheads aren't creative? REALLY? FREAKING REALLY?
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#31 Tiefster
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Depends where it's coming from. I'm glad most of the stuff sold around here is home grown lets just put it that way.
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#32 Sharvie
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I've never used it but have no problem with people using it around me, i only see it as a problem when people steal, etc to buy it which i have never seen happen.
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#34 DeeJayInphinity
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I've never used it but have no problem with people using it around me, i only see it as a problem when people steal, etc to buy it which i have never seen happen.Sharvie
Hmm.. The violent underground marijuana economy in the U.S. says you're blind.
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No.
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#36 jakecufc8888
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the only victim is the person taking it and i have never had any problems other than lack of money.

by the way i found the image very helpful.

geodisicdome

This. Lots of people think that it supports terrorists or murderous drug cartels though, which is completely untrue. Cannabis is usually grown locally, it's not like it's hard to do.?

Edit: For the over two years I've been here, up until about a month ago, GS users were usually extremely against marijuana. WTF?

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#37 navarrogc_395
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this is an important topic for me, just think about it, marijuana has to be produced somewhere, and yes my country is famous for doing it, so everytime you buy marijuana you are giving money to feed our civil war, you are causing violence in my country and poverty,so yes there are victims, all the poor people whose families are kidnapped or killed, it causes a great impact in our country.
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#38 swizz-the-gamer
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this is an important topic for me, just think about it, marijuana has to be produced somewhere, and yes my country is famous for doing it, so everytime you buy marijuana you are giving money to feed our civil war, you are causing violence in my country and poverty,so yes there are victims, all the poor people whose families are kidnapped or killed, it causes a great impact in our country.navarrogc_395
I only ever used to buy it grown in England.
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this is an important topic for me, just think about it, marijuana has to be produced somewhere, and yes my country is famous for doing it, so everytime you buy marijuana you are giving money to feed our civil war, you are causing violence in my country and poverty,so yes there are victims, all the poor people whose families are kidnapped or killed, it causes a great impact in our country.navarrogc_395

Unless your country is Jamaica or the Netherlands, then you're wrong. Weed is grown locally. And I like to support local business.

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Of course it is. The only side effect of smoking marijuana is extreme happiness. Oh, and munchies.MotherSuperior

Nah, it also destroys your brain cells and makes you more depressed in the long term.

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#41 swizz-the-gamer
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[QUOTE="navarrogc_395"]this is an important topic for me, just think about it, marijuana has to be produced somewhere, and yes my country is famous for doing it, so everytime you buy marijuana you are giving money to feed our civil war, you are causing violence in my country and poverty,so yes there are victims, all the poor people whose families are kidnapped or killed, it causes a great impact in our country.jakecufc8888

Unless your country is Jamaica or the Netherlands, then you're wrong. Weed is grown locally. And I like to support local business.

Morocco?
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i don't mind when people do it, but i don't because all my friends who do it got really fat when they started and are failing school.
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oh sorry I forgot to mention I live in colombia (south america)
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[QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]Of course it is. The only side effect of smoking marijuana is extreme happiness. Oh, and munchies.Gamer4Iife

Nah, it also destroys your brain cells and makes you more depressed in the long term.

I have 2 degrees of which 1 is a masters so dont sit there and tell me it destroys brain cells, make ur own opinions instead of being blindly led by the media.

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[QUOTE="navarrogc_395"]this is an important topic for me, just think about it, marijuana has to be produced somewhere, and yes my country is famous for doing it, so everytime you buy marijuana you are giving money to feed our civil war, you are causing violence in my country and poverty,so yes there are victims, all the poor people whose families are kidnapped or killed, it causes a great impact in our country.jakecufc8888

Unless your country is Jamaica or the Netherlands, then you're wrong. Weed is grown locally. And I like to support local business.

It depends on where you live. In some areas, producing it yourself is much riskier than importing it. Thus, it is imported rather than grown locally. In those cases, you ARE supporting extremist regimes that use violence to stay in power, and that can include supporting a civil war.
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unless you are absolutely sure where the marijuana you are smoking comes from, there is a great possibility you are supporting terrorist in my country( colombia-south america)
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[QUOTE="jakecufc8888"]

[QUOTE="navarrogc_395"]this is an important topic for me, just think about it, marijuana has to be produced somewhere, and yes my country is famous for doing it, so everytime you buy marijuana you are giving money to feed our civil war, you are causing violence in my country and poverty,so yes there are victims, all the poor people whose families are kidnapped or killed, it causes a great impact in our country.swizz-the-gamer

Unless your country is Jamaica or the Netherlands, then you're wrong. Weed is grown locally. And I like to support local business.

Morocco?

Eh, Moroccan hash is famous, I guess. Still, I've never seen it around here. And hash can also be made locally.

Edit: Guy above me, Colombia is famous for it's cocaine, nobody cares about it's weed

To deejayinfinity: It's surprisingly easier to produce it locally than to import it. The central US produces tons of MJ, and around where I live, people just grow in their house, or guerilla grow. This might be harder if you live in an urban area though, but importing from anywhere besides Mexico (which is infamous for sh*tty weed, though there are exceptions) and Canada, isn't very common, though it is done.

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[QUOTE="Gamer4Iife"]

[QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]Of course it is. The only side effect of smoking marijuana is extreme happiness. Oh, and munchies.l34052

Nah, it also destroys your brain cells and makes you more depressed in the long term.

I have 2 degrees of which 1 is a masters so dont sit there and tell me it destroys brain cells, make ur own opinions instead of being blindly led by the media.

It's true. The brain develops new brain cells throughout life so whatever cells are killed by smoking will always be replaced. I do disagree with smoking and then driving exactly like alcohol.

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[QUOTE="jakecufc8888"]

[QUOTE="navarrogc_395"]this is an important topic for me, just think about it, marijuana has to be produced somewhere, and yes my country is famous for doing it, so everytime you buy marijuana you are giving money to feed our civil war, you are causing violence in my country and poverty,so yes there are victims, all the poor people whose families are kidnapped or killed, it causes a great impact in our country.DeeJayInphinity

Unless your country is Jamaica or the Netherlands, then you're wrong. Weed is grown locally. And I like to support local business.

It depends on where you live. In some areas, producing it yourself is much riskier than importing it. Thus, it is imported rather than grown locally. In those cases, you ARE supporting extremist regimes that use violence to stay in power, and that can include supporting a civil war.

And by wearing Nike Shoes your supporting sweatshops in Malaysia, by buying Alpine Electronics your supporting sweatshops in central America when purchasing fruit of the loom underwear your supporting oppressive working conditions in Guatemalian Factories which produce the elastic waste bands, by purchasing sugar your supporting Brazilian landowners who force laborers to work under extreme physical duress with little pay, by purcahseing products made in China your helping to boost Americas dependence on Chinese goods and helping their government and economy and thus the continued exploitation of human rights and control of Tibet, by paying your taxes your supporting your governments war's and proxy wars. Usually Marijuana purchased is Marijuana grown locally, of course this isnt always true but its rare for it to be otherwise. Besides I dont believe Pot is as big a cash crop os Cocaine or Opium.