Is smoking marijuana a victimless crime?

Smoking mary jay is not a crime, ever, even when its illegalR-Dot-Yung

Well it's obvious that it's a crime. Whether it's morally acceptable is another story.

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="jakecufc8888"]

[QUOTE="navarrogc_395"]this is an important topic for me, just think about it, marijuana has to be produced somewhere, and yes my country is famous for doing it, so everytime you buy marijuana you are giving money to feed our civil war, you are causing violence in my country and poverty,so yes there are victims, all the poor people whose families are kidnapped or killed, it causes a great impact in our country.JackMcSexbeard

Unless your country is Jamaica or the Netherlands, then you're wrong. Weed is grown locally. And I like to support local business.

And by wearing Nike Shoes your supporting sweatshops in Malaysia, by buying Alpine Electronics your supporting sweatshops in central America when purchasing fruit of the loom underwear your supporting oppressive working conditions in Guatemalian Factories which produce the elastic waste bands, by purchasing sugar your supporting Brazilian landowners who force laborers to work under extreme physical duress with little pay, by purcahseing products made in China your helping to boost Americas dependence on Chinese goods and helping their government and economy and thus the continued exploitation of human rights and control of Tibet, by paying your taxes your supporting your governments war's and proxy wars. Usually Marijuana purchased is Marijuana grown locally, of course this isnt always true but its rare for it to be otherwise. Besides I dont believe Pot is as big a cash crop os Cocaine or Opium.

everyday is captured a mula in my country, that means a person who is carrying marijuana in his body to take it to usa, europe, etc... how can you tell if you are smoking local marijuana?, most usa people like you dont understand their position in the world, you consume a lot and have a lot of luxuries, and that could mean poverty in other regions of the world, just becouse you buy a luxury there is a loss in world equilibrium in terms of poverty

And by wearing Nike Shoes your supporting sweatshops in Malaysia, by buying Alpine Electronics your supporting sweatshops in central America when purchasing fruit of the loom underwear your supporting oppressive working conditions in Guatemalian Factories which produce the elastic waste bands, by purchasing sugar your supporting Brazilian landowners who force laborers to work under extreme physical duress with little pay, by purcahseing products made in China your helping to boost Americas dependence on Chinese goods and helping their government and economy and thus the continued exploitation of human rights and control of Tibet, by paying your taxes your supporting your governments war's and proxy wars. Usually Marijuana purchased is Marijuana grown locally, of course this isnt always true but its rare for it to be otherwise. Besides I dont believe Pot is as big a cash crop os Cocaine or Opium.

JackMcSexbeard

[QUOTE="JackMcSexbeard"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="jakecufc8888"]

[QUOTE="navarrogc_395"]this is an important topic for me, just think about it, marijuana has to be produced somewhere, and yes my country is famous for doing it, so everytime you buy marijuana you are giving money to feed our civil war, you are causing violence in my country and poverty,so yes there are victims, all the poor people whose families are kidnapped or killed, it causes a great impact in our country.navarrogc_395

Unless your country is Jamaica or the Netherlands, then you're wrong. Weed is grown locally. And I like to support local business.

And by wearing Nike Shoes your supporting sweatshops in Malaysia, by buying Alpine Electronics your supporting sweatshops in central America when purchasing fruit of the loom underwear your supporting oppressive working conditions in Guatemalian Factories which produce the elastic waste bands, by purchasing sugar your supporting Brazilian landowners who force laborers to work under extreme physical duress with little pay, by purcahseing products made in China your helping to boost Americas dependence on Chinese goods and helping their government and economy and thus the continued exploitation of human rights and control of Tibet, by paying your taxes your supporting your governments war's and proxy wars. Usually Marijuana purchased is Marijuana grown locally, of course this isnt always true but its rare for it to be otherwise. Besides I dont believe Pot is as big a cash crop os Cocaine or Opium.

everyday is captured a mula in my country, that means a person who is carrying marijuana in his body to take it to usa, europe, etc... how can you tell if you are smoking local marijuana?, most usa people like you dont understand their position in the world, you consume a lot and have a lot of luxuries, and that could mean poverty in other regions of the world, just becouse you buy a luxury there is a loss in world equilibrium in terms of poverty

Again, I really doubt that anybody would go through that trouble for a couple pounds of weed, worth at most 10,000 dollars. If you live in Colombia, cocaine is the stuff that people want from you. Nobody goes around saying "I got some Colombian weed!!!" We have medical dispensaries for that. If our weed isn't grown for a dispensary, it's grown in our mountains or in central US. Weed isn't worth enough to transport over such huge distances, unless it's by the ton, which I really doubt a "mule" could carry.. And don't generalise the US, you obviously don't know how our Marijuana culture is set up. And don't pull out all this BS saying that all Americans consume alot. Some do, some don't.

[QUOTE="JackMcSexbeard"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="jakecufc8888"]

[QUOTE="navarrogc_395"]this is an important topic for me, just think about it, marijuana has to be produced somewhere, and yes my country is famous for doing it, so everytime you buy marijuana you are giving money to feed our civil war, you are causing violence in my country and poverty,so yes there are victims, all the poor people whose families are kidnapped or killed, it causes a great impact in our country.navarrogc_395

Unless your country is Jamaica or the Netherlands, then you're wrong. Weed is grown locally. And I like to support local business.

And by wearing Nike Shoes your supporting sweatshops in Malaysia, by buying Alpine Electronics your supporting sweatshops in central America when purchasing fruit of the loom underwear your supporting oppressive working conditions in Guatemalian Factories which produce the elastic waste bands, by purchasing sugar your supporting Brazilian landowners who force laborers to work under extreme physical duress with little pay, by purcahseing products made in China your helping to boost Americas dependence on Chinese goods and helping their government and economy and thus the continued exploitation of human rights and control of Tibet, by paying your taxes your supporting your governments war's and proxy wars. Usually Marijuana purchased is Marijuana grown locally, of course this isnt always true but its rare for it to be otherwise. Besides I dont believe Pot is as big a cash crop os Cocaine or Opium.

everyday is captured a mula in my country, that means a person who is carrying marijuana in his body to take it to usa, europe, etc... how can you tell if you are smoking local marijuana?, most usa people like you dont understand their position in the world, you consume a lot and have a lot of luxuries, and that could mean poverty in other regions of the world, just becouse you buy a luxury there is a loss in world equilibrium in terms of poverty

I know my countries position in the world, I know how blessed our lives are and that other countries unfairly pay the price for our life style, so with all do respect I dont think I need a lecture. Yes it is true that some Marijuana does in fact come from places like Columbia but to my knowledge most Marijuana that is smoked in The US is grown at home, or imported from Canada, Mexico or Jamaica.

If you want to stop the explitation of your country by viscious drug lords selling Marijuana than the best bet is to legalize it. Prohibiton breeds criminality and the legalization of Marijuana can lead to it being grown more or less exclusvly in North America, especially the US thus easenng the burdan put on your country. Of course other drugs like cocaine will still be grown but that is soemthing that has always been a cheif problem, not Marijuana. I already explained that our cost of living negativly effects poorer nations in my last post, I was mearly stateing that I belived that specifically the Drug Marijuana is less dentrimental than the continuation sweatshop labor by American corporations and the trade of other drugs.

when im saying americans consume a lot im obviously refering to an average, google it, and yes cocaine is more profitable, that doesnt mean marijuana isnt profitable too and doesnt mean its not exported from here, think about how much damage you could make to other people just for a seconds of relaxation, doesnt that make you feel guilty?navarrogc_395

when im saying americans consume a lot im obviously refering to an average, google it, and yes cocaine is more profitable, that doesnt mean marijuana isnt profitable too and doesnt mean its not exported from here, think about how much damage you could make to other people just for a seconds of relaxation, doesnt that make you feel guilty?navarrogc_395

Lol, no, because my weed doesn't damage other people. Weed is profitable, but not when it's only carried by a few pounds. You should probably start listening to what other people are saying. Nobody gives a sh*t about your Colombian weed. Our good weed is from California, Oregon, Kansas, many other states, Canada, Jamaica, sometimes even the Netherlands (In small amounts usually, not for sale). But weed isn't anywhere close to expensive enough to be exporting it over such large distances.

[QUOTE="navarrogc_395"]when im saying americans consume a lot im obviously refering to an average, google it, and yes cocaine is more profitable, that doesnt mean marijuana isnt profitable too and doesnt mean its not exported from here, think about how much damage you could make to other people just for a seconds of relaxation, doesnt that make you feel guilty?jakecufc8888

Lol, no, because my weed doesn't damage other people. Weed is profitable, but not when it's only carried by a few pounds. You should probably start listening to what other people are saying. Nobody gives a sh*t about your Colombian weed. Our good weed is from California, Oregon, Kansas, many other states, Canada, Jamaica, sometimes even the Netherlands (In small amounts usually, not for sale). But weed isn't anywhere close to expensive enough to be exporting it over such large distances.

[QUOTE="JackMcSexbeard"]

And by wearing Nike Shoes your supporting sweatshops in Malaysia, by buying Alpine Electronics your supporting sweatshops in central America when purchasing fruit of the loom underwear your supporting oppressive working conditions in Guatemalian Factories which produce the elastic waste bands, by purchasing sugar your supporting Brazilian landowners who force laborers to work under extreme physical duress with little pay, by purcahseing products made in China your helping to boost Americas dependence on Chinese goods and helping their government and economy and thus the continued exploitation of human rights and control of Tibet, by paying your taxes your supporting your governments war's and proxy wars. Usually Marijuana purchased is Marijuana grown locally, of course this isnt always true but its rare for it to be otherwise. Besides I dont believe Pot is as big a cash crop os Cocaine or Opium.

DeeJayInphinity

I dont think I said Marijuana doesnt make alot of money, it does. However it does not make the amount of money that Coacaine or Opium does in relation to supporting civil wars/ terrorism. You say that its supproting Criminal empires in Chicago (hey I live here too!) but thats not FARC or the Taliban. ALOT of the weed being sold is grown locally and in North America, recently Marijuana trade comming in from Canada has increased 129%.

If you dont want it too fund these local criminal gangs and orgainizations than make it legal. Again prohibition encourages criminality becasue there is more money to be made. Look at history and you'll see the prohibiton of Alcohol, were both Chicagoans so we know all the stories about Al Capone and various gangsters, they didnt make their money from arcotics, gambling or prostitution. It was the sale of illegal alcohol. The repealling of the prohibiton marked the end of the chaos of the twenties and was better at stamoing out the Mafia in Chicago than any police task force set up to stop it. The same can be done with Pot I believe.

[QUOTE="jakecufc8888"]

[QUOTE="navarrogc_395"]when im saying americans consume a lot im obviously refering to an average, google it, and yes cocaine is more profitable, that doesnt mean marijuana isnt profitable too and doesnt mean its not exported from here, think about how much damage you could make to other people just for a seconds of relaxation, doesnt that make you feel guilty?swizz-the-gamer

Lol, no, because my weed doesn't damage other people. Weed is profitable, but not when it's only carried by a few pounds. You should probably start listening to what other people are saying. Nobody gives a sh*t about your Colombian weed. Our good weed is from California, Oregon, Kansas, many other states, Canada, Jamaica, sometimes even the Netherlands (In small amounts usually, not for sale). But weed isn't anywhere close to expensive enough to be exporting it over such large distances.

Yeah, but I wouldn't say that Colombia is famous for it, nor was I really talking about it. And that's also done locally alot, though not nearly as much as straight weed. I haven't ever smoked hash though, so I'm still not in any danger of hurting anybody.

Second Hand Smoke? Not to mention if it has detrimental effects on a person's mind which may later lead to crime.big_pimpin_99

wow you got your info way wrong, dont buy into propaganda crap about it

Second Hand Smoke? Not to mention if it has detrimental effects on a person's mind which may later lead to crime.big_pimpin_99

second hand smoke?? are u kidding me.. and the only crime i see stoners doing is raiding fridges

[QUOTE="big_pimpin_99"]Second Hand Smoke? Not to mention if it has detrimental effects on a person's mind which may later lead to crime.mVolta

second hand smoke?? are u kidding me.. and the only crime i see stoners doing is raiding fridges

haha seriously man. its not bad, people always overrate marijuana proclaiming its a gateway drug, kills braincells, makes you depressed. Its all in the media.

i don't mind when people do it, but i don't because all my friends who do it got really fat when they started and are failing school.iloverikku11

How odd the opposite happened to my brother and I have never known a fat person doing it.

[QUOTE="iloverikku11"]i don't mind when people do it, but i don't because all my friends who do it got really fat when they started and are failing school.Devil-Itachi

How odd the opposite happened to my brother and I have never known a fat person doing it.

same, im not fat:)

I dont think I said Marijuana doesnt make alot of money, it does. However it does not make the amount of money that Coacaine or Opium does in relation to supporting civil wars/ terrorism. You say that its supproting Criminal empires in Chicago (hey I live here too!) but thats not FARC or the Taliban. ALOT of the weed being sold is grown locally and in North America, recently Marijuana trade comming in from Canada has increased 129%.

If you dont want it too fund these local criminal gangs and orgainizations than make it legal. Again prohibition encourages criminality becasue there is more money to be made. Look at history and you'll see the prohibiton of Alcohol, were both Chicagoans so we know all the stories about Al Capone and various gangsters, they didnt make their money from arcotics, gambling or prostitution. It was the sale of illegal alcohol. The repealling of the prohibiton marked the end of the chaos of the twenties and was better at stamoing out the Mafia in Chicago than any police task force set up to stop it. The same can be done with Pot I believe.

JackMcSexbeard

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="JackMcSexbeard"]

And by wearing Nike Shoes your supporting sweatshops in Malaysia, by buying Alpine Electronics your supporting sweatshops in central America when purchasing fruit of the loom underwear your supporting oppressive working conditions in Guatemalian Factories which produce the elastic waste bands, by purchasing sugar your supporting Brazilian landowners who force laborers to work under extreme physical duress with little pay, by purcahseing products made in China your helping to boost Americas dependence on Chinese goods and helping their government and economy and thus the continued exploitation of human rights and control of Tibet, by paying your taxes your supporting your governments war's and proxy wars. Usually Marijuana purchased is Marijuana grown locally, of course this isnt always true but its rare for it to be otherwise. Besides I dont believe Pot is as big a cash crop os Cocaine or Opium.

JackMcSexbeard

I dont think I said Marijuana doesnt make alot of money, it does. However it does not make the amount of money that Coacaine or Opium does in relation to supporting civil wars/ terrorism. You say that its supproting Criminal empires in Chicago (hey I live here too!) but thats not FARC or the Taliban. ALOT of the weed being sold is grown locally and in North America, recently Marijuana trade comming in from Canada has increased 129%.

If you dont want it too fund these local criminal gangs and orgainizations than make it legal. Again prohibition encourages criminality becasue there is more money to be made. Look at history and you'll see the prohibiton of Alcohol, were both Chicagoans so we know all the stories about Al Capone and various gangsters, they didnt make their money from arcotics, gambling or prostitution. It was the sale of illegal alcohol. The repealling of the prohibiton marked the end of the chaos of the twenties and was better at stamoing out the Mafia in Chicago than any police task force set up to stop it. The same can be done with Pot I believe.

Exactly, i dont see why it shouldn't be legal. for one, prohibition has failed to control the use and domestic production of marijuana. The government has tried to use criminal penalties to prevent marijuana use for over 75 years and yet: marijuana is now used by over 25 million people annually. On top of that, marijuana's legalization would simplify the development of hemp as a valuable and diverse agricultural crop in the United States, including its development as a new bio-fuel to reduce carbon emissions. Its beneficial and actually can be controlled, but why is ciggarettes legal? they kill more than all drugs, suicides, car accidents and homocides combined! ...The government can make money...thats why..

there is nothing wrong with it

that is just it

this is an important topic for me, just think about it, marijuana has to be produced somewhere, and yes my country is famous for doing it, so everytime you buy marijuana you are giving money to feed our civil war, you are causing violence in my country and poverty,so yes there are victims, all the poor people whose families are kidnapped or killed, it causes a great impact in our country.navarrogc_395

the smoke i buy is grown locally to the highest standards of organic trading. haha nar im just joking, i smoke all day and night whatever i can get my hands on.

No, it isn't. And :lol: at "most musicians and artists have done it."Dracargen

yea most of the good ones that is/ jimi hendrix. THE BEATLES, pink floyd, the doors, sorry but drugged out musicians usually leads to good music. except if ur courtney love

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]No, it isn't. And :lol: at "most musicians and artists have done it."mVolta

yea most of the good ones that is/ jimi hendrix. THE BEATLES, pink floyd, the doors, sorry but drugged out musicians usually leads to good music. except if ur courtney love

Okay, you named 4 musicians/bands, whereas there are thousands upon thousands who do not use drugs and are far better. Please.:roll:

[QUOTE="iloverikku11"]i don't mind when people do it, but i don't because all my friends who do it got really fat when they started and are failing school.Devil-Itachi

How odd the opposite happened to my brother and I have never known a fat person doing it.

Well my friend who recently started doing it is getting fat. I've watched him just grab hand fulls of chips and smash them into his mouth not caring if he covers himself in food while he's high.

What a stupid, worthless drug.

[QUOTE="Devil-Itachi"]

[QUOTE="iloverikku11"]i don't mind when people do it, but i don't because all my friends who do it got really fat when they started and are failing school.Juggernaut140

How odd the opposite happened to my brother and I have never known a fat person doing it.

Well my friend who recently started doing it is getting fat. I've watched him just grab hand fulls of chips and smash them into his mouth not caring if he covers himself in food while he's high.

What a stupid, worthless drug.

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="Devil-Itachi"]

[QUOTE="iloverikku11"]i don't mind when people do it, but i don't because all my friends who do it got really fat when they started and are failing school.needled24-7

How odd the opposite happened to my brother and I have never known a fat person doing it.

Well my friend who recently started doing it is getting fat. I've watched him just grab hand fulls of chips and smash them into his mouth not caring if he covers himself in food while he's high.

What a stupid, worthless drug.

And as we all know, there is absolutely no correlation between being hungry and eating.

I'm thinking of writing a miniseries titled "Pot Supporters Say the Darndest Things."

[QUOTE="needled24-7"][QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="Devil-Itachi"]

[QUOTE="iloverikku11"]i don't mind when people do it, but i don't because all my friends who do it got really fat when they started and are failing school.Dracargen

How odd the opposite happened to my brother and I have never known a fat person doing it.

Well my friend who recently started doing it is getting fat. I've watched him just grab hand fulls of chips and smash them into his mouth not caring if he covers himself in food while he's high.

What a stupid, worthless drug.

And as we all know, there is absolutely no correlation between being hungry and eating.

I'm thinking of writing a miniseries titled "Pot Supporters Say the Darndest Things."

Doesn't seem like many people put in any effort to resist.Juggernaut140

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]Doesn't seem like many people put in any effort to resist.needled24-7

And as to the person saying it funds war and such this isn't true. I know exactly where mine comes from ( down to the apartment number ). it's drugs like cocaine that fund wars.

[QUOTE="mVolta"]

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]No, it isn't. And :lol: at "most musicians and artists have done it."Dracargen

yea most of the good ones that is/ jimi hendrix. THE BEATLES, pink floyd, the doors, sorry but drugged out musicians usually leads to good music. except if ur courtney love

Okay, you named 4 musicians/bands, whereas there are thousands upon thousands who do not use drugs and are far better. Please.:roll:

im gonna have to agree with drac here. ive been playing in bands for some time and theres tons who dont use

[QUOTE="needled24-7"][QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]Doesn't seem like many people put in any effort to resist.Big_player

And as to the person saying it funds war and such this isn't true. I know exactly where mine comes from ( down to the apartment number ). it's drugs like cocaine that fund wars.

[QUOTE="mVolta"]

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]No, it isn't. And :lol: at "most musicians and artists have done it."Dracargen

yea most of the good ones that is/ jimi hendrix. THE BEATLES, pink floyd, the doors, sorry but drugged out musicians usually leads to good music. except if ur courtney love

Okay, you named 4 musicians/bands, whereas there are thousands upon thousands who do not use drugs and are far better. Please.:roll:

yea probly the most influencial bands of the last 20-30 years. here watch this llol http://youtube.com/watch?v=xRkA6zugNMQ

and pls what are these BETTER bands u speak of??

[QUOTE="big_pimpin_99"]Second Hand Smoke? Not to mention if it has detrimental effects on a person's mind which may later lead to crime.Luminouslight

There are no carcinogens in marujuana smoke, so it isn't dangerous to another person's health.

i bet ur gonna get all pissy and say "wikipedia isnt written by experts...?" but who cares:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marijuana

search for the keyword carcinogen in there (ctrl + f if u have firefox) and it'll clearly say that it has the same carcinogens as tobacco as well as a 20x increase in lung cancer rates compared to pple who smoked 2+ packs of regular cigs a day.

im fully aware that wikipedia articles can be written by any bloke but who are u kidding if u use that as an excuse? marijuana def has carcinogens in it, i remember that being one of the key points in those stupid drug classes schools take u through.

Iron Maiden haven't done it though.

Tony-Harrison

lol

[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="mVolta"]

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]No, it isn't. And :lol: at "most musicians and artists have done it."mVolta

yea most of the good ones that is/ jimi hendrix. THE BEATLES, pink floyd, the doors, sorry but drugged out musicians usually leads to good music. except if ur courtney love

Okay, you named 4 musicians/bands, whereas there are thousands upon thousands who do not use drugs and are far better. Please.:roll:

yea probly the most influencial bands of the last 20-30 years. here watch this llol http://youtube.com/watch?v=xRkA6zugNMQ

and pls what are these BETTER bands u speak of??

i am against drug use myself, but im not gonna lie, whenever i get interested in a new rock band whenever i reseach them i always find out they've experimented with drugs. and pretty much each of my favorite musicians/bands did em, namely the chili peppers (frusciante was practically ready to die) and hendrix. im not a gigantic beatles fan but everyone knows their success and they sure did em. the who- keith moon is one of the greatest drummers of all time and he did em as well (horse tranquilizers for that matter). im not gonna name others cuz if i did id only be speculating, but im sure tons and tons of them have.

of the bands i really like the only one i know of that i dont THINK have done em is coldplay