Is the problem of evil sufficient to disprove God?

Dude, you cannot be serious, Nietzsche thought that mankind should become the ubermensch follow their own path and not the nihilistic concept of God, and thus we can create our own morality?

Do you even know he Nietzsche is, because from that post you clearly don't.

MetalGear_Ninty

[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"]

Dude, you cannot be serious, Nietzsche thought that mankind should become the ubermensch follow their own path and not the nihilistic concept of God, and thus we can create our own morality?

Do you even know he Nietzsche is, because from that post you clearly don't.

CptJSparrow

Innate: 'originating in or arising from the intellect or the constitution of the mind, rather than learned through experience'

Innate: 'originating in or arising from the intellect or the constitution of the mind, rather than learned through experience'

MetalGear_Ninty

[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"]

Innate: 'originating in or arising from the intellect or the constitution of the mind, rather than learned through experience'

CptJSparrow

I don't know why we're all getting hung up about a word; perhaps I've been using the wrong word. All I'm arguing is that morality can exist without God.

Tell me how that is anti-Nietzschean?

I don't know why we're all getting hung up about a word; perhaps I've been using the wrong word. All I'm arguing is that morality can exist without God.

Tell me how that is anti-Nietzschean?

MetalGear_Ninty

[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"]

I don't know why we're all getting hung up about a word; perhaps I've been using the wrong word. All I'm arguing is that morality can exist without God.

Tell me how that is anti-Nietzschean?

CptJSparrow

Lol, tell me about it.

[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"]

Dude, you cannot be serious, Nietzsche thought that mankind should become the ubermensch follow their own path and not the nihilistic concept of God, and thus we can create our own morality?

Do you even know he Nietzsche is, because from that post you clearly don't.

CptJSparrow

I think the concept of the Ubermensch was one of humanity as a whole elevating itself to a new level.

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"]I am baffled as to how someone sporting a Nietzsche quote in their signature believes morality is innate.Theokhoth

Considering that it's the "God is dead" quote, he probably just liked it and thought it a good testament to atheism, then put it in the signature without any look at the context or meaning of Nietzsche's quote.

It's a cool quote, too, if you know what he means.

I'll explain the quote to you.

Nietzsche believes that concept of God is nihilistic, that people attribute their purpose in life soley to God, the quote is actually used in the context of the ramblings of a mad man; he is hysteric about the death of God because he believes that means his existence is worthless.

Thus the quote is used to criticise those that put all their meaning in God; which Nietzsche believes to be nihilstic.

That's just brief BTW.

Who said He gets mad? Can you provide a link to His mind? LJS9502_basic

I think HE said he gets mad...in the bible...correct? Oh, but, can you provide a link to his mind that proves that "robots are not what he wanted", as you so clearly and absolutely stated?

We either got here through God, or through evolution. They're mutually exclusive. Unless you want to reconcile them? Funky_Llama

"Mutually exclusive"? Is this LJ's atheist alt account? :lol:

So that's what you've been doing LJ! That's why you made all that noise about Llama being my alt account, so that no one would suspect it was you all along! Oh, you crafty devil...

You have some accounts that claim to be atheist, and some accounts that claim to be christian, so that you can log in on multiple computers and argue with yourself, huh?

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"] We either got here through God, or through evolution. They're mutually exclusive. Unless you want to reconcile them? Deity_Slapper

"Mutually exclusive"? Is this LJ's atheist alt account? :lol:

So that's what you've been doing LJ! That's why you made all that noise about Llama being my alt account, so that no one would suspect it was you all along! Oh, you crafty devil...

You have some accounts that claim to be atheist, and some accounts that claim to be christian, so that you can log in on multiple computers and argue with yourself, huh?

Are you joking, or have you just lost it?:?

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"] We either got here through God, or through evolution. They're mutually exclusive. Unless you want to reconcile them? Deity_Slapper

"Mutually exclusive"? Is this LJ's atheist alt account? :lol:

So that's what you've been doing LJ! That's why you made all that noise about Llama being my alt account, so that no one would suspect it was you all along! Oh, you crafty devil...

You have some accounts that claim to be atheist, and some accounts that claim to be christian, so that you can log in on multiple computers and argue with yourself, huh?

LJ, you devil! I should have guessed! Especially given that I'm you! :lol:

[QUOTE="Deity_Slapper"]

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"] We either got here through God, or through evolution. They're mutually exclusive. Unless you want to reconcile them? Funky_Llama

"Mutually exclusive"? Is this LJ's atheist alt account? :lol:

So that's what you've been doing LJ! That's why you made all that noise about Llama being my alt account, so that no one would suspect it was you all along! Oh, you crafty devil...

You have some accounts that claim to be atheist, and some accounts that claim to be christian, so that you can log in on multiple computers and argue with yourself, huh?

LJ, you devil! I should have guessed! Especially given that I'm you! :lol:

You're not really him, are you?!:o

And here I thought I was the only one crazy enough to do that.

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Deity_Slapper"]

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"] We either got here through God, or through evolution. They're mutually exclusive. Unless you want to reconcile them? Theokhoth

"Mutually exclusive"? Is this LJ's atheist alt account? :lol:

So that's what you've been doing LJ! That's why you made all that noise about Llama being my alt account, so that no one would suspect it was you all along! Oh, you crafty devil...

You have some accounts that claim to be atheist, and some accounts that claim to be christian, so that you can log in on multiple computers and argue with yourself, huh?

LJ, you devil! I should have guessed! Especially given that I'm you! :lol:

You're not really him, are you?!:o

And here I thought I was the only one crazy enough to do that.

Heh... now that would be a plot twist! It turns out that I'm LJ and I've just been staging these arguments to convince you that Funky_Llama and LJ aren't alt accounts. :P

Heh... now that would be a plot twist! It turns out that I'm LJ and I've just been staging these arguments to convince you that Funky_Llama and LJ aren't alt accounts. :P

Funky_Llama

Yeah. . . .unless that's just what you want me to think, so that I don't suspect the ghastly truth: you and LJ AREN'T alternate accounts, and the two of you are just conspiring to take over the Internet!:o

Heh... now that would be a plot twist! It turns out that I'm LJ and I've just been staging these arguments to convince you that Funky_Llama and LJ aren't alt accounts. :P

Funky_Llama

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

Heh... now that would be a plot twist! It turns out that I'm LJ and I've just been staging these arguments to convince you that Funky_Llama and LJ aren't alt accounts. :P

Harshvardhan666

EXACTLY!

If he really was LJ, then why would he just willingly give away all this information? Simple: He wants us to believe they are the same person, so that they can continue, uninterrupted, to take over the Internet!

Funky! Come here so I can chain myself to you for a couple of weeks.:x

There is a lot of evil and suffering in the world. Is the problem of evil and suffering sufficient to disprove God?X4D

Not at all. It's called faith

/thread

Funky! Come here so I can chain myself to you for a couple of weeks.:x

Theokhoth

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Funky! Come here so I can chain myself to you for a couple of weeks.:x

Harshvardhan666

It's a Death Note reference.:evil:

And yes.

[QUOTE="Harshvardhan666"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Funky! Come here so I can chain myself to you for a couple of weeks.:x

Theokhoth

It's a Death Note reference.:evil:

And yes.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Harshvardhan666"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Funky! Come here so I can chain myself to you for a couple of weeks.:x

Harshvardhan666

It's a Death Note reference.:evil:

And yes.

Nah, he just wants to chain himself to me. It's just luck that it's a death note reference as well. :P

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Harshvardhan666"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Funky! Come here so I can chain myself to you for a couple of weeks.:x

Harshvardhan666

It's a Death Note reference.:evil:

And yes.

I can't help but laugh every time I see your signature.

You can't prove God, you can't disprove God.

It's whether you want devote your life to something that has a 0.0000000000001% chance of existing.

[QUOTE="Deity_Slapper"]

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"] We either got here through God, or through evolution. They're mutually exclusive. Unless you want to reconcile them? Funky_Llama

"Mutually exclusive"? Is this LJ's atheist alt account? :lol:

So that's what you've been doing LJ! That's why you made all that noise about Llama being my alt account, so that no one would suspect it was you all along! Oh, you crafty devil...

You have some accounts that claim to be atheist, and some accounts that claim to be christian, so that you can log in on multiple computers and argue with yourself, huh?

LJ, you devil! I should have guessed! Especially given that I'm you! :lol:

I'm onto you, LJ. You thought you had me fooled, but no...I'm going to uncover your little scheme eventually. 8)

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Who said He gets mad? Can you provide a link to His mind? Deity_Slapper

I think HE said he gets mad...in the bible...correct? Oh, but, can you provide a link to his mind that proves that "robots are not what he wanted", as you so clearly and absolutely stated?

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"] We either got here through God, or through evolution. They're mutually exclusive. Unless you want to reconcile them? Deity_Slapper

"Mutually exclusive"? Is this LJ's atheist alt account? :lol:

So that's what you've been doing LJ! That's why you made all that noise about Llama being my alt account, so that no one would suspect it was you all along! Oh, you crafty devil...

You have some accounts that claim to be atheist, and some accounts that claim to be christian, so that you can log in on multiple computers and argue with yourself, huh?

[QUOTE="Deity_Slapper"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Who said He gets mad? Can you provide a link to His mind? LJS9502_basic

I think HE said he gets mad...in the bible...correct? Oh, but, can you provide a link to his mind that proves that "robots are not what he wanted", as you so clearly and absolutely stated?

Not that god made us actual robots, but could have decided that he wanted our brains to operate in a certain manner. Prove that god didn't want us to operate in a pre-determined manner...if you can.

EDIT: I noticed you ignored my point about god saying that he gets angry in the bible. Did you ignore that because I proved you wrong?

Sorry...not my alt. Stop seeing me everywhere....I don't change my beliefs to argue...seriously dude get a grip.:|LJS9502_basic

This is what you would say anyway, whether it really is you or not. So....? ;)

Plus, you originally thought that Llama and I were one and the same, so...did you eventually "get a grip"? Or do you still think I am him? :lol:

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Deity_Slapper"]

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"] We either got here through God, or through evolution. They're mutually exclusive. Unless you want to reconcile them? Deity_Slapper

"Mutually exclusive"? Is this LJ's atheist alt account? :lol:

So that's what you've been doing LJ! That's why you made all that noise about Llama being my alt account, so that no one would suspect it was you all along! Oh, you crafty devil...

You have some accounts that claim to be atheist, and some accounts that claim to be christian, so that you can log in on multiple computers and argue with yourself, huh?

LJ, you devil! I should have guessed! Especially given that I'm you! :lol:

I'm onto you, LJ. You thought you had me fooled, but no...I'm going to uncover your little scheme eventually. 8)

[QUOTE="The_Nintendawg"]

You may think God is wrong, you may disagree with Him, but that isn't possible because God is Perfect. We humans are not perfect, we can't do the things God can, and as a result, we cannot understand some of the things that God does. It may very well be that the problem of evil is absolutely necessary to carry on the best plan that God has for all of us.

Hewkii

when the perfect one decides what counts as perfect, I'd say there's at least some chance of bias there.

Officially the smartest person on GS...

[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="The_Nintendawg"]

You may think God is wrong, you may disagree with Him, but that isn't possible because God is Perfect. We humans are not perfect, we can't do the things God can, and as a result, we cannot understand some of the things that God does. It may very well be that the problem of evil is absolutely necessary to carry on the best plan that God has for all of us.

KrisG7

when the perfect one decides what counts as perfect, I'd say there's at least some chance of bias there.

Officially the smartest person on GS...

[QUOTE="KrisG7"][QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="The_Nintendawg"]

You may think God is wrong, you may disagree with Him, but that isn't possible because God is Perfect. We humans are not perfect, we can't do the things God can, and as a result, we cannot understand some of the things that God does. It may very well be that the problem of evil is absolutely necessary to carry on the best plan that God has for all of us.

LJS9502_basic

when the perfect one decides what counts as perfect, I'd say there's at least some chance of bias there.

Officially the smartest person on GS...

Sure he did, by completely contradicting it with logic.

No.

You can not prove god or disporve god therefore there is no way of knowing that he exisits its all faith and believe IMO

Sure he did, by completely contradicting it with logic.

KrisG7

I think the fact that humans aren't robots pretty much sums that up...:roll:LJS9502_basic

Humans ARE like robots. In fact there is no shred of proof that we have free will of any kind. We are physical systems and as such we are also governed by physical laws. Our actions are confined to our brain and the choices we have are extremely limited by the physical environment (gravity for example), economics and by man-made laws and norms. Free will is just an illusion in my opinion.