Is the United States ready to vote in another Republican for 2012?

I'm sure the 14 million +/- chronically unemployed people are thrilled with Obama (not to mention those that are underemployed). As are the millions of college grads that have no career to speak of, yet have mountains of debt.

We'll see I suppose. As they say, "Is your life better now than it was 4 years ago?" Nothing will surprise me.

I hope we do vote another Republican in. They can pick up where Bush left off and finish running the country into the ground. Maybe this time they'll finally be able to privitize Social Security and put it in the stock market where it belongs.:roll:

At this point I'm not sure it matters who gets to be president until we overhaul our governement.

At this point I'm not sure it matters who gets to be president until we overhaul our governement.

junglist101

This country will never change until people realize both parties have the same agenda.

I hope not and doubt it considering what an absolute mess the Republican party is now.

Kinda ridiculous how losing one presidential election made the partylose it's mind and just fall apart.

I hope not and doubt it considering what an absolute mess the Republican party is now.

Kinda ridiculous how losing one presidential election made the partylose it's mind and just fall apart.

LostProphetFLCL

I hope not and doubt it considering what an absolute mess the Republican party is now.

Kinda ridiculous how losing one presidential election made the partylose it's mind and just fall apart.

LostProphetFLCL

This country will never change until people realize both parties have the same agenda.

wellbigd

We've done it in the past before, so a 2012 GOP victory is always possible. The only difference is that back then, the candidates who won tended to be moderate in their positions. The popular candidates are extreme while the moderate to conservative candidates are ignored.

Despite dismal unemployment and a poor economy, I still see Obama winning. I don't want him to win but it's still going to happen.

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This country will never change until people realize both parties have the same agenda.

surrealnumber5

doesn't really matter who gets elected, they're all the same.

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This country will never change until people realize both parties have the same agenda.

wellbigd

unions want to price out un-unionised labor, politicians agree. people lose their jobs and want more unemployment and politicians agree.

I'm sure the 14 million +/- chronically unemployed people are thrilled with Obama (not to mention those that are underemployed). As are the millions of college grads that have no career to speak of, yet have mountains of debt.

We'll see I suppose. As they say, "Is your life better now than it was 4 years ago?" Nothing will surprise me.

Planet_Pluto

I'm unemployed and I'm thrilled with President Obama. I think's it's not just a question of unemployment, but of if the public is going to put the blame solely on President Obama or if they're going to react against a Republican congress that's been content not to pass any legislation at all. I also think people realize that as disenchanted as they are with President Obama, the majority of the Republican presidential candidates would be just as much of a foreign policy disaster as Bush if you go by their claims, that they're all on the far right side of the spectrum, and that when voting for the next President they may not be just voting for a President but for a Supreme Court justice or two as well.

If Ron Paul wins I will be happy.

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I hope not and doubt it considering what an absolute mess the Republican party is now.

Kinda ridiculous how losing one presidential election made the partylose it's mind and just fall apart.

Planet_Pluto

This whole tea party business which seems to me has made it so there is no single focus with the Republican party besides "Blargh Democrats are bad we need to block everything they try and do."

Don't be fooled either, plenty of people are very PO'd at the Republicans in office and I can ver well see them getting the boot when elections come around.

It does not matter to me at this point. As long as either of them will be able to create jobs, bring back up the economy, and preventing no wars, then I will be happy. Thug2Wasteland

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I hope not and doubt it considering what an absolute mess the Republican party is now.

Kinda ridiculous how losing one presidential election made the partylose it's mind and just fall apart.

LostProphetFLCL

This whole tea party business which seems to me has made it so there is no single focus with the Republican party besides "Blargh Democrats are bad we need to block everything they try and do."

Don't be fooled either, plenty of people are very PO'd at the Republicans in office and I can ver well see them getting the boot when elections come around.

I think people are PO'd at politicians in general, regardless of the letter before their name.

[QUOTE="Thug2Wasteland"]It does not matter to me at this point. As long as either of them will be able to create jobs, bring back up the economy, and preventing no wars, then I will be happy. surrealnumber5

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[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]Gaining control of one branch and gaining seats in another is falling apart?

Planet_Pluto

This whole tea party business which seems to me has made it so there is no single focus with the Republican party besides "Blargh Democrats are bad we need to block everything they try and do."

Don't be fooled either, plenty of people are very PO'd at the Republicans in office and I can ver well see them getting the boot when elections come around.

I think people are PO'd at politicians in general, regardless of the letter before their name.

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[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]Gaining control of one branch and gaining seats in another is falling apart?

Planet_Pluto

This whole tea party business which seems to me has made it so there is no single focus with the Republican party besides "Blargh Democrats are bad we need to block everything they try and do."

Don't be fooled either, plenty of people are very PO'd at the Republicans in office and I can ver well see them getting the boot when elections come around.

I think people are PO'd at politicians in general, regardless of the letter before their name.

Well at least with the democrats I feel they were trying to support their president for the most part.

But anyways, yeah people are PO'd at politicians in general, but with the way the Repubs in congress have been embarassing themselves with things like the debt crisis, or beyond congress where like here in Michigan people are ready to hang Rick Snyder who is not even two years into his reign as governor.

Unless the Dem party starts making some major boo-boo's, Amidst all this hate for politicians, I just don't see the Repubs being able to continue holding strong in office especially when you have Obama and all his charisma to woo people to the dem party.

I can't think of a single Republican right now who has any real charisma to swing voters outside of people who would already be voting Republican.

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[QUOTE="Thug2Wasteland"]It does not matter to me at this point. As long as either of them will be able to create jobs, bring back up the economy, and preventing no wars, then I will be happy. Thug2Wasteland

he is the only "intellectual" that i know of in the running, the man knew and spoke with great economic minds like milton and rothbard before they died in the 90's, he is a guy that actually understands the business cycle theory. none of these things can be said about obama

[QUOTE="wellbigd"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] this post needed a RON PAUL 2012 at the end of it

surrealnumber5

unions want to price out un-unionised labor, politicians agree. people lose their jobs and want more unemployment and politicians agree.

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[QUOTE="wellbigd"] Pssh... Ron Paul is too old, but he does have some good ideals. seriously though look a this country it nothing gets done due to intentional indecisiveness while we allow all our companies to ship jobs over seas and then cry about unemployment. All why congress votes on the slogan on the back off the dollar.wellbigd

unions want to price out un-unionised labor, politicians agree. people lose their jobs and want more unemployment and politicians agree.

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[QUOTE="wellbigd"] Pssh... Ron Paul is too old, but he does have some good ideals. seriously though look a this country it nothing gets done due to intentional indecisiveness while we allow all our companies to ship jobs over seas and then cry about unemployment. All why congress votes on the slogan on the back off the dollar.wellbigd

unions want to price out un-unionised labor, politicians agree. people lose their jobs and want more unemployment and politicians agree.

A two party system is always set to fail....

And if you do vote in a Republican there will be a collective Wtf from everyone else in the world.

A two party system is always set to fail....

And if you do vote in a Republican there will be a collective Wtf from everyone else in the world.

MattDistillery

Nothing changes regardless of what political party the president is associated with. Executive and legislation never agree or compromise on anything, resulting in nothing getting accomplished.

Not a chance. Obama has lost the independents.

Too soon to call it. It depends quite a degree upon factors which haven't been yet determined, such as who the GOP candidate is. In the case of Romney taking the nomination, pretty close to even money. The other candidates who could conceivably take the nomination would have to swing so far center that they'd look like the inverse of Romney if they expect to take the general.

Too soon to call it. It depends quite a degree upon factors which haven't been yet determined, such as who the GOP candidate is. In the case of Romney taking the nomination, pretty close to even money. The other candidates who could conceivably take the nomination would have to swing so far center that they'd look like the inverse of Romney if they expect to take the general.

coolbeans90

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Too soon to call it. It depends quite a degree upon factors which haven't been yet determined, such as who the GOP candidate is. In the case of Romney taking the nomination, pretty close to even money. The other candidates who could conceivably take the nomination would have to swing so far center that they'd look like the inverse of Romney if they expect to take the general.

surrealnumber5

It says a bit more about the electorate than the political orientation of said policies.

Going for Obama. Not having republicans bury the country.YoshiYogurt

It's not that people aren't upset with Obama (although he's been remarkably consistent about keeping campaign promises; we got what we voted for in 2008) but rather the Republican candidates are remarkably underwhelming.

[QUOTE="wellbigd"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] we force companies to ship jobs over seas vie governance. both parties are filled with people who want to give everyone who calls for more government what they want.

unions want to price out un-unionised labor, politicians agree. people lose their jobs and want more unemployment and politicians agree.

DevilMightCry

I'm certainly not ready to do so, but that probably comes as no surprise to everyone on this site.

However I do say I'm not ready because I have been watching the republicans as a whole since Obama got elected and because I have been watching the republican debates. Neither of these things that I have been paying attention to suggests that republicans should have control of anything in my opinion.

Obama's approval rating is creeping back up, and the public opion of republican cannidates is dropping. Unless something changes he will probably get reelected.

At this moment in time I feel anyone has got to be better than Obama...too bad the Democratic party just can't oust him out and select another candidate for the 2012 elections (and by ousting him out, I mean let him finish the term but pick a different candidate as if he's already served two terms).

It won't matter. Whoever wins 2012 will be on corporate payroll and do the bidding of big business.

If the Republicans field a competent, moderate candidate (Huntsman, or even Romney), I'd say they'd be the favorites. Huntsman I think would win easily unless the economy turned a 180 in the next 12 months, and Romney I think would be a favorite.

If they pick just about anyone else, I think Obama will have a very strong chance at reelection.