Islam is holy and everything else isn't? WTF is this?

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#51 my_mortal_coil
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[QUOTE="IWKYB"][QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] I defend my religion if its bashed, even in real life i don't get violent and most Muslims don't, not like what you see in the news.

And no one can tell if someone is enraged by viewing text.

krazy-blazer

You cursed back there and took me for a typical american and the people like you comments mean anger. However you do not get my initial post. Directed at our aggressors and "leaders" of ours that are just plain wrong.

I didn't curse you, i was laughing about the things your saying, which were completely wrong i was surprised to see that's what people though of Islam, i knew most people are against Islam but didn't know that they thought this way.

I have to say, for the average American, seeing all the footage of all the hijacked planes since the 70's, then the building bombings through the 80's and 90's, then 9/11/01 - being forced fed by 24-hours "news" agencies about terror alerts and near-misses and Americans defecting to Muslim countries to join Al-Queida, and good ole "Us and Them" mentality .... it's hard NOT to think that way.

Reminds me of 1984 when people would gather to have their hate-sessions where they would show a picture of the "enemy" and people would shout and raise fists and curse and warmonger.

It's like that on both sides you know.

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#52 optiow
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I believe it is fake religion. America always picks someone to target. Imperialists, Fascists, Communists, and now Islam. Just wait until they target the Buddhas:?
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#53 IWKYB
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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"][QUOTE="IWKYB"]krazy I'm Agnostic. I'm like this for every religion but when anything prohibits me of any little type of freedom I will be against it.

That wasn't the reason i argued with you.

True you argued with me out of nowhere. Since you quoted my first post that only targeted extremists!
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#54 krazy-blazer
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[QUOTE="Xbxg32000"]

Funny how my post was deleted. I cannot call Islam a joke? This is my opinion.

IWKYB
I saw the same type of post for another religion and that one wasn't deleted. See what I mean?

US is free, Gamespot isn't.
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#55 IWKYB
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I believe it is fake religion. America always picks someone to target. Imperialists, Fascists, Communists, and now Islam. Just wait until they target the Buddhas:?optiow
Islam is NOT a fake religion. What are you talking about?
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#56 krazy-blazer
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I believe it is fake religion. America always picks someone to target. Imperialists, Fascists, Communists, and now Islam. Just wait until they target the Buddhas:?optiow
I don't agree on the first part but, exactly my point on the rest.
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#57 optiow
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[QUOTE="IWKYB"] Islam is NOT a fake religion. What are you talking about?

What are you talking about? It is fake because it has no real proof. That is what is required in courts these days, and that is what religion can not give. Proof and facts is what is needed. And they don't have either of them.
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#58 krazy-blazer
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[QUOTE="IWKYB"][QUOTE="krazy-blazer"][QUOTE="IWKYB"]krazy I'm Agnostic. I'm like this for every religion but when anything prohibits me of any little type of freedom I will be against it.

That wasn't the reason i argued with you.

True you argued with me out of nowhere. Since you quoted my first post that only targeted extremists!

I wasn't arguing with you, i was arguing with the people on the thread that were bashing Islam.
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#59 optiow
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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] I don't agree on the first part but, exactly my point on the rest.

Thank you:D
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#60 IWKYB
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[QUOTE="IWKYB"][QUOTE="Xbxg32000"]

Funny how my post was deleted. I cannot call Islam a joke? This is my opinion.

krazy-blazer
I saw the same type of post for another religion and that one wasn't deleted. See what I mean?

US is free, Gamespot isn't.

Can I quote you? :D
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#61 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] And 9/11 has been proven a thousand times it was an inside job.krazy-blazer

I'm not sure if that was sarcasim but on the chance it wasn't.

No, that has not been proven.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssuAMNas1us http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezIU6ZxYU3A I can get you a thousand more.

And I can get a counter to every one.

I don't take a side on this conspiracy. But your view isn't proven. I can grab you some UFO videos, but that doesn't prove aliens exist.

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#62 krazy-blazer
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[QUOTE="optiow"][QUOTE="IWKYB"] Islam is NOT a fake religion. What are you talking about?

What are you talking about? It is fake because it has no real proof. That is what is required in courts these days, and that is what religion can not give. Proof and facts is what is needed. And they don't have either of them.

Fake as in you don't believe in it or what.. cause your not making sense.
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#63 krazy-blazer
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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

I'm not sure if that was sarcasim but on the chance it wasn't.

No, that has not been proven.

Pixel-Pirate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssuAMNas1us http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezIU6ZxYU3A I can get you a thousand more.

And I can get a counter to every one.

I don't take a side on this conspiracy. But your view isn't proven. I can grab you some UFO videos, but that doesn't prove aliens exist.

There will always be two sides of an argument.
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#64 optiow
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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] Fake as in you don't believe in it or what.. cause your not making sense.

Fake as in there is no proof to back up all this talk Islam is about. People follow this religion without proof, without thinking, and in my opinion that is brainwashing and it is a crime.
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#65 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] Fake as in you don't believe in it or what.. cause your not making sense.optiow
Fake as in there is no proof to back up all this talk Islam is about. People follow this religion without proof, without thinking, and in my opinion that is brainwashing and it is a crime.

You just described every religion ever.

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#66 optiow
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You just described every religion ever.Pixel-Pirate
I know I did. But we are not talking about every religion now are we?
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#67 IWKYB
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[QUOTE="optiow"][QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] Fake as in you don't believe in it or what.. cause your not making sense.

Fake as in there is no proof to back up all this talk Islam is about. People follow this religion without proof, without thinking, and in my opinion that is brainwashing and it is a crime.

This is not where I wanted things to come to. I am not here questioning people's religion. Try that at another anti-religion thread. This wasn't meant to be taken like this.
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#68 Asim90
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I find it hilarious when people say 'We make fun out of Christians and they don't care so why should muslims?'. Perhaps, Muslims take their faith more seriously than Christians? I agree that people shouldn't use violence, and the vast majority don't but why shouldn't people be able to stick up for their beliefs. The thing that most people don't understand is how high muslims hold their faith. For a muslim, their religion is their identity, far more than their race or gender.

Just to help you put things in perspective, if you started an attack on black people, would you not expect the same sort of response? , if anything you'd get riots in the streets and violence on an immense scale. Well, to a muslim if you attack their religion you are being far more disrespectful than attacking their race. I'm not saying people shouldn't have the right to voice their opinions and I agree people shouldn't use violence. But, the fact of the matter is that attacking someone just because you can and others don't mind if they're attacked is the most ludicrous thing I have ever heard. Please grow up people and try to understand matters before you blow your tops.

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#69 krazy-blazer
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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] Fake as in you don't believe in it or what.. cause your not making sense.optiow
Fake as in there is no proof to back up all this talk Islam is about. People follow this religion without proof, without thinking, and in my opinion that is brainwashing and it is a crime.

To Muslims the Koran is a good enough proof. See people who believe in religion don't need physical proof for everything, sometimes they just know.

Besides there have been many many MANY miracles Quran that actually came true in the modern age.

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[QUOTE="IWKYB"] This is not where I wanted things to come to. I am not here questioning people's religion. Try that at another anti-religion thread. This wasn't meant to be taken like this.

In my opinion, that is exactly what this thread was going to become. You say you are outraged, so am I.
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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] To Muslims the Koran is a good enough proof. See people who believe in religion don't need physical proof for everything, sometimes they just know.

You are seriously using that argument? Well I don't need physical proof to know that religion is fake. I just know.
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[QUOTE="optiow"][QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] To Muslims the Koran is a good enough proof. See people who believe in religion don't need physical proof for everything, sometimes they just know.

You are seriously using that argument? Well I don't need physical proof to know that religion is fake. I just know.

Read it again i edited it.
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#73 optiow
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Read it again i edited it.krazy-blazer
And? They are speculation. I could guess that in 500 years we may nuke ourselves to death. I could guess that in 20 years Gamespot could be dismantled by Giantbomb. And you are saying that if I put that in a book and something in it comes true then I am god?

What has come true in this modern age btw?

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#74 IWKYB
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Please grow up people and try to understand matters before you blow your tops.

Asim90
The man you have in your sig would fight for his rights, why can't you? :D This is the type of cowardice that has taken us nowhere. This is not about the whole group but the extremist hold on the western world after 9/11.
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[QUOTE="optiow"][QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] Read it again i edited it.

And? They are speculation. I could guess that in 500 years we may nuke ourselves to death. I could guess that in 20 years Gamespot could be dismantled by Giantbomb. And you are saying that if I put that in a book and something in it comes true then I am god?

Ok you understand me wrong so I'll give you an example. "The Qur'aan states that the sperm drop develops - into a clot of congealed blood. (An implanted blastocyst or spontaneously aborted conceptus would resemble a blood clot.) Reference is also made to the leech-like appearance of the embryo. The embryo is not unlike a leech, or bloodsucker, in appearance. The embryo is also said to resemble a chewed piece of substance - like gum or wood. "The developing embryo was considered to be human at 40 to 42 days and no longer resemble an animal embryo at this stage. (The human embryo begins to acquire human characteristics at this stage). The Qur'aan also states that the embryo develops with - three veils of darkness. This probably refers to (1) the maternal anterior abdominal wall, (2) the uterine wall, and (3) the amniochorionic membrane. ) Space does not permit discussion of several other interesting references to human prenatal development that appear in the Qur'aan."
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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] Ok you understand me wrong so I'll give you an example. "The Qur'aan states that the sperm drop develops - into a clot of congealed blood. (An implanted blastocyst or spontaneously aborted conceptus would resemble a blood clot.) Reference is also made to the leech-like appearance of the embryo. The embryo is not unlike a leech, or bloodsucker, in appearance. The embryo is also said to resemble a chewed piece of substance - like gum or wood. "The developing embryo was considered to be human at 40 to 42 days and no longer resemble an animal embryo at this stage. (The human embryo begins to acquire human characteristics at this stage). The Qur'aan also states that the embryo develops with - three veils of darkness. This probably refers to (1) the maternal anterior abdominal wall, (2) the uterine wall, and (3) the amniochorionic membrane. ) Space does not permit discussion of several other interesting references to human prenatal development that appear in the Qur'aan."

Yes...and this is what happens to people who read a book like this for too long. They CREATE meaning in the words. Do you not understand that I could pick up the complete works of Charles Dickens and start looking for hidden meanings in it? It means what the person wants it to mean, without giving solid facts.
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#77 Asim90
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[QUOTE="Asim90"]

Please grow up people and try to understand matters before you blow your tops.

IWKYB

The man you have in your sig would fight for his rights, why can't you? :D This is the type of cowardice that has taken us nowhere. This is not about the whole group but the extremist hold on the western world after 9/11.

Fight for my rights? I have no idea what you're talking about, please elaborate...

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[QUOTE="optiow"][QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] Ok you understand me wrong so I'll give you an example. "The Qur'aan states that the sperm drop develops - into a clot of congealed blood. (An implanted blastocyst or spontaneously aborted conceptus would resemble a blood clot.) Reference is also made to the leech-like appearance of the embryo. The embryo is not unlike a leech, or bloodsucker, in appearance. The embryo is also said to resemble a chewed piece of substance - like gum or wood. "The developing embryo was considered to be human at 40 to 42 days and no longer resemble an animal embryo at this stage. (The human embryo begins to acquire human characteristics at this stage). The Qur'aan also states that the embryo develops with - three veils of darkness. This probably refers to (1) the maternal anterior abdominal wall, (2) the uterine wall, and (3) the amniochorionic membrane. ) Space does not permit discussion of several other interesting references to human prenatal development that appear in the Qur'aan."

Yes...and this is what happens to people who read a book like this for too long. They CREATE meaning in the words. Do you not understand that I could pick up the complete works of Charles Dickens and start looking for hidden meanings in it? It means what the person wants it to mean, without giving solid facts.

No it wasn't a hidden meaning. the verse in Arabic was directly stating that. Koran wasn't only a book of religion it was a book of science.
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#79 optiow
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No it wasn't a hidden meaning. the verse in Arabic was directly stating that. Koran wasn't only a book of religion it was a book of science.krazy-blazer
And what if there is a verse in Charles Dickens stating something about the Atom Bomb, or Adolf Hitler rising to power? Would that make it a godly book? ~And what does science prove? Are you saying through scientific experiments they made god?
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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] No it wasn't a hidden meaning. the verse in Arabic was directly stating that. Koran wasn't only a book of religion it was a book of science.optiow
And what if there is a verse in Charles Dickens stating something about the Atom Bomb, or Adolf Hitler rising to power? Would that make it a godly book? ~And what does science prove? Are you saying through scientific experiments they made god?

Your response is illogical, that's no way responding to my post. you stated Islam had no proof and i gave it to you take it or leave it. Just so you know Mohammad was a Bedouin he didn't know how to read or right, there was no way he could have known that.
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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] No it wasn't a hidden meaning. the verse in Arabic was directly stating that. Koran wasn't only a book of religion it was a book of science.optiow
And what if there is a verse in Charles Dickens stating something about the Atom Bomb, or Adolf Hitler rising to power? Would that make it a godly book? ~And what does science prove? Are you saying through scientific experiments they made god?

There isn't that's the point. this isn't a "what if" argument.
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[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] Your response is illogical, that's no way responding to my post. you stated Islam had no proof and i gave it to you take it or leave it. Just so you know Mohammad was a Bedouin he didn't know how to read or right, there was no way he could have known that.

I will leave it. You seem to think that because a book makes a few predictions you THINK is true, it therefore means god is real. Well I do not believe that.
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[QUOTE="IWKYB"][QUOTE="Asim90"]

Please grow up people and try to understand matters before you blow your tops.

Asim90

The man you have in your sig would fight for his rights, why can't you? :D This is the type of cowardice that has taken us nowhere. This is not about the whole group but the extremist hold on the western world after 9/11.

Fight for my rights? I have no idea what you're talking about, please elaborate...

Well for starters the new law that makes you buy medical insurance which is (was?) unconstitutional. (that one was offtopic sorry) The political correctness of hell many topics which infringements with your rights as well. http://www.saveyourrights.com/category/pc-political-correctness/

I'll gladly discuss this tomorrow as it is VERY late here. I hope people don't take this the wrong way either.

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[QUOTE="optiow"][QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] Your response is illogical, that's no way responding to my post. you stated Islam had no proof and i gave it to you take it or leave it. Just so you know Mohammad was a Bedouin he didn't know how to read or right, there was no way he could have known that.

I will leave it. You seem to think that because a book makes a few predictions you THINK is true, it therefore means god is real. Well I do not believe that.

A few? first of all that is one of many. and it turned out true didn't it? Islam covers MANY MANY scientific facts that were just proven.
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[QUOTE="MagnumPI"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Yes. If you want to be completely safe from violent people who will hurt you over anything you say, then we must remove free speech.

I'd rather take the very miniscule chance of being bombed by a radical over losing my rights.

IWKYB

Sometimes you just have to compromise and use your brain. Our constitution is not global, it's our constitution,not their's. Comedy is NOT worth getting people killed. Maybe you're okay with explaining to the families that the deaths were totally worth it but I don't see how it could be.

Freedom of speech was worth something when this country was funded, you have forgotten that. The millions of people dead believing in our rights, it was all for nothing if we have to keep "quiet". Pixel Pirate You have my respect.

I haven't forgotten anything, but I do decide if what I'm going tofight for is worth dying for OR getting other people killed over. Much like I decide if what I am going to say is worth getting hit for.

Being an idiot and doing stupid **** doesn't help anything. The U.S government isn't even taking this conflict seriously. Theyalmosthave more empty body bags than empty brass.

Freedom of speech means your government cannot punish you for anything you say to yourgovernment. It has NOTHING to do with any other country nor governments

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[QUOTE="optiow"][QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] Your response is illogical, that's no way responding to my post. you stated Islam had no proof and i gave it to you take it or leave it. Just so you know Mohammad was a Bedouin he didn't know how to read or right, there was no way he could have known that.

I will leave it. You seem to think that because a book makes a few predictions you THINK is true, it therefore means god is real. Well I do not believe that.

What you believe is your opinion i am merely responding to your argument.
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#87 IWKYB
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MagnumPI Censoring me is just as bad. I'm out for today.
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#88 Asim90
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[QUOTE="Asim90"]

[QUOTE="IWKYB"] The man you have in your sig would fight for his rights, why can't you? :D This is the type of cowardice that has taken us nowhere. This is not about the whole group but the extremist hold on the western world after 9/11.IWKYB

Fight for my rights? I have no idea what you're talking about, please elaborate...

Well for starters the new law that makes you buy medical insurance which is (was?) unconstitutional. (that one was offtopic sorry) The political correctness of hell many topics which infringements with your rights as well. http://www.saveyourrights.com/category/pc-political-correctness/

I'll gladly discuss this tomorrow as it is VERY late here. I hope people don't take this the wrong way either.

Erm, what? I thought this was a topic about Islam, whats medical insurance got to do with anything? I'm from the UK anyway so what you're referring to effects me in no way at all. Still don't understand what you're getting at though. Also, I agreed that people should be able to voice their opinions without fear of being attacked in my post, so I don't really get the latter part of your post either.

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#89 conistant
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Sad to see threads like these.We muslims want to live in peace and people alienate us even more.We want to be your friends and you treat us like your enemies.All of this because some idiots who are not even true muslims,who buy guns from drug money,bomb mosques,churches,temples and kill not only people from other religions but muslims also are used as an example to describe how all muslims are.By reading most of the comments here I know now that people here have absolutely no knowledge of Islam or muslims in general.
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#90 UnknownSniper65
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[QUOTE="IWKYB"]Do you want me to post all the decap videos from many years ago to now? I do not condone what SOME soldiers are doing over there but those radicals have done much worst. krazy-blazer
And 9/11 has been proven a thousand times it was an inside job.

I find it somewhat ironic that you believe that ,but completely ignore any arguments against the existance of a god. A documentary that was shown the discovery channel tested nearly every major conspiracy theory involving 9/11 and they all came to the conclusion that it wasn't plausible. Despite this, the panel of truthers who were viewing the experiments continued to ignore the results. Ultimately, a behavioral psychologist was brought in and came up with the conclusion that the truthers wouldn't believe any evidence presented because they wanted a conspiracy to exist no matter what.

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#91 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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People think that placating them will make them leave us alone...foolish..

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#92 Ninja-Hippo
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The way i see it, rather than complain that one religion will let you make fun of them and others wont, we should just stop making fun of peoples religions. >_>
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#93 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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The way i see it, rather than complain that one religion will let you make fun of them and others wont, we should just stop making fun of peoples religions. >_>Ninja-Hippo
That would be nice :P..
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#94 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="IWKYB"][QUOTE="MagnumPI"]

Sometimes you just have to compromise and use your brain. Our constitution is not global, it's our constitution,not their's. Comedy is NOT worth getting people killed. Maybe you're okay with explaining to the families that the deaths were totally worth it but I don't see how it could be.

MagnumPI

Freedom of speech was worth something when this country was funded, you have forgotten that. The millions of people dead believing in our rights, it was all for nothing if we have to keep "quiet". Pixel Pirate You have my respect.

I haven't forgotten anything, but I do decide if what I'm going tofight for is worth dying for OR getting other people killed over. Much like I decide if what I am going to say is worth getting hit for.

Being an idiot and doing stupid **** doesn't help anything. The U.S government isn't even taking this conflict seriously. Theyalmosthave more empty body bags than empty brass.

Freedom of speech means your government cannot punish you for anything you say to yourgovernment. It has NOTHING to do with any other country nor governments

I have no problem risking others lives for my freedom. Because the risk is somewhere around 0.000000001% of a possibility of happening.

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#95 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="IWKYB"]

Yeah, nobody has noticed that right? Ever since some extremeists have done away with our towers everybody seems to be afraid of Islamic radicals. So much that everybody seems to only hate on the safe religions like Christians who won't bomb us. Comedy Central has how many shows that take a piss on every single religion hell most networks do. But when it comes to Islam nobody steps foward. What is this? Do they own us, does fear own us? Am I the only one outraged by this?

krazy-blazer

You realize Islam is against killing innocent people and suicides right? next time don't go flaming without knowing anything about Islam. see the NEWS only put Muslims getting pissed off whereby MOST Muslims are fine unless it crosses the line. so UNLESS you've seen the opinion of the majority and the minority and quit watching Fox news then start talking.

Lol, I love how everyone equates everything they disagree with to Fox News. Maybe you should stop watching CNN or MSNBC?
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#96 gubrushadow
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if you dont know what the **** is going around except what you see on tv , then im not the one to talk to robots.
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#97 gubrushadow
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[QUOTE="optiow"][QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] Your response is illogical, that's no way responding to my post. you stated Islam had no proof and i gave it to you take it or leave it. Just so you know Mohammad was a Bedouin he didn't know how to read or right, there was no way he could have known that.

I will leave it. You seem to think that because a book makes a few predictions you THINK is true, it therefore means god is real. Well I do not believe that.

well HE's not gonna be hurt or anything , HE's just gonna put you in hell and we will be watching . ( if we went to paradise ).
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#98 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="gubrushadow"][QUOTE="optiow"][QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] Your response is illogical, that's no way responding to my post. you stated Islam had no proof and i gave it to you take it or leave it. Just so you know Mohammad was a Bedouin he didn't know how to read or right, there was no way he could have known that.

I will leave it. You seem to think that because a book makes a few predictions you THINK is true, it therefore means god is real. Well I do not believe that.

well HE's not gonna be hurt or anything , HE's just gonna put you in hell and we will be watching . ( if we went to paradise ).

If he doesn't care; why bother punishing?
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#99 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Yes. If you want to be completely safe from violent people who will hurt you over anything you say, then we must remove free speech.

I'd rather take the very miniscule chance of being bombed by a radical over losing my rights.

MagnumPI

Sometimes you just have to compromise anduse your brain. Our constitution is not global, it's our constitution,not their's. Comedy is NOT worth getting people killed. Maybe you're okay with explaining to the families that the deaths were totally worth it but I don't see how it could be.

NO NO NO. You don't compromise your freedoms. Ever. Or they are lost.

In the words of Ben

He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.

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#100 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="MagnumPI"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Yes. If you want to be completely safe from violent people who will hurt you over anything you say, then we must remove free speech.

I'd rather take the very miniscule chance of being bombed by a radical over losing my rights.

LJS9502_basic

Sometimes you just have to compromise anduse your brain. Our constitution is not global, it's our constitution,not their's. Comedy is NOT worth getting people killed. Maybe you're okay with explaining to the families that the deaths were totally worth it but I don't see how it could be.

NO NO NO. You don't compromise your freedoms. Ever. Or they are lost.

In the words of Ben

He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.

I avoided using that quote since it's abit over used, as true as it is.

Compromise leads to further "compromises" untill you have nothing left to compromise.