What force out there causes people to become close minded and islamophobic? As Islamophobia quickly becomes the new anti-semitism, it is important that we know the answer to this question, should we become close-minded ourselves
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What force out there causes people to become close minded and islamophobic? As Islamophobia quickly becomes the new anti-semitism, it is important that we know the answer to this question, should we become close-minded ourselves
Media.
The bad bad people use islam as their cover to do bad things, and that draws media attention. The media loves it. They continuously associate islam with bad things because they love getting bigger groups of people involved.
If the good islamic people don't want to be associated with these bad people, they could explain why the bad people are not islamic. But, i don't think that could ever beat the media attention. You see, people don't want to be informed. They get their news from sensation.
So maybe they should do something really big and really nice, something the media can't get around. The media is very powerful but also attached to strings. It just has to be one really big and special thing. Just one thing. Something very newsworthy.
I don't know what. I'm not getting into one of those religious struggles again. At least, not if i can help it >.>
Islam is not a victim. I understand that it always wants to be treated as though it's untouchable, but that doesn't mean Islam is a victim when it gets due criticism. It never has and never will deserve the status of being immune to criticism.
We all like to pretend. :)Islam is not a victim. I understand that it always wants to be treated as though it's untouchable, but that doesn't mean Islam is a victim when it gets due criticism. It never has and never will deserve the status of being immune to criticism.
dracula_16
The few that ruin it for the many (i.e. terrorists) in combination with fear mongering media and governments.What force out there causes people to become close minded and islamophobic? As Islamophobia quickly becomes the new anti-semitism, it is important that we know the answer to this question, should we become close-minded ourselves
Wikipedian
[QUOTE="Wikipedian"]The few that ruin it for the many (i.e. terrorists) in combination with fear mongering media and governments.What force out there causes people to become close minded and islamophobic? As Islamophobia quickly becomes the new anti-semitism, it is important that we know the answer to this question, should we become close-minded ourselves
Taegukki
I agree with what you say, but there are way more than a "few" Islamic radicals that hate the west, and the US in particular. There are a lot of Muslims in the world, and even a fraction of Muslims equates to millions.
No religion should be immune from criticism, true. But at the same time, it needs to be examined why the world's second largest religion has rapidly become a near synonym for terrorism.Islam is not a victim. I understand that it always wants to be treated as though it's untouchable, but that doesn't mean Islam is a victim when it gets due criticism. It never has and never will deserve the status of being immune to criticism.
dracula_16
The majority muslims on the internet certainly don't help....In fact I would say they do a pretty good job of reinforcing the sterotypes the media throws around.
The media has found that fearmongering sells. So that's what they provide. And far too many people listen.
The media has found that fearmongering sells. So that's what they provide. And far too many people listen.
gamer_10001
I would say these dudes don't help very much either.
guys im pretty sure that according to our government, this thread is full of so many politically incorrect things... well who cares what they think there are groups of islams that do target america and other western civilizations. i think the reason they take so much heat is because they are the only religious group causing trouble i mean you dont see a bunch of christians blowing themselves up now do you.boba707
Yeah, but there are white protestants who think that basically anybody who isn't a white protestant is inferior. Don't see the Media push them on the media. I know what your saying, and I basically agree, but just sayin.
I guess it's the result of Islamic fundamentalism showing its face in a more wide-spread way nowadays.
[QUOTE="boba707"]guys im pretty sure that according to our government, this thread is full of so many politically incorrect things... well who cares what they think there are groups of islams that do target america and other western civilizations. i think the reason they take so much heat is because they are the only religious group causing trouble i mean you dont see a bunch of christians blowing themselves up now do you.magnax1
Yeah, but there are white protestants who think that basically anybody who isn't a white protestant is inferior. Don't see the Media push them on the media. I know what your saying, and I basically agree, but just sayin.
Still,the KKK still aren't blowing themselves up in marketplaces on a daily basis. In reality most of their rallies bring out more opposition demonstrations than anything else. Where as you have giant crowds of people in Iran shouting "death to America"....lets not forget the large crowds of Palestinians who felt the need to dance in the streets of the West Bank and Gaza after 9/11.i couldnt agree any more.i dont know how things ended up like this,but 99% of muslims think that the whole world is making a gigantic conspiracy against us.no doubt there is a conspiracy and the proof to this conspiracy is how the media and governments treat muslims,but that does not mean the whole world is against us.i think the scenario we are living developed like this: the Zionist lobby in their believes want the whole of Arab world,palestine was just a start.the arab world is islamic and the rest of islamic countires support them,lets ruin the whole thing,lets create the notion of "muslim terrorists",make the media spread these thoughts,and USA with the so called bush invade Afghanstan and Iraq and kill innocent muslim villagers like you are killing ants.we as muslims got furious that the world at some point looked like its all against us,so we developed this complex,and now 99% of muslims think that the world is against them.with this attitude,you will find really wierd things are being said from muslim people.i consider myself open minded while people think me wierd.i dont believe that the whole world is against us and they dont want us...etc i only believe that the Zionist lobby is behind all of this and unfortunately lots of people follow thier propaganda.if anyone reading this find it crazy and idiotic to think that the Zionist Lobbyis behind the islamic terrorists like AL-Qaida,dont you find it wierd that Al-Qaida hijacked a couple of planes from the most powerful state in the world,in the middle of the day,and crashed them into USA's most important centers??? i mean if a couple of retards could do it,then how come the soviet union couldnt???? and the most important thing is that Al-Qaida stroke in USA,frqance,germany,italy,spain as these countries in AL-Qaida believes are the vile countries against islam,but didnt strike in Israel,the most eligible country to be stroke since we actually have a war with?????? but i have to say muslims developed some retarded things like burning flags,protesters saying kill them! and this BS.this is just pure shameThe majority muslims on the internet certainly don't help....In fact I would say they do a pretty good job of reinforcing the sterotypes the media throws around.
UnknownSniper65
its mostly media, seeing as they are one of the things wrong with modern society, in the form that there in atleast, some of it can be your parents, depending on what age the person in question is, older generations tend to be a lot more close minded about issues like race and homosexuality
i think it's the lack of understanding in muslims, plus they seem to be judge by the bad apples, not the good ones. this happens not only to islam, i'm sure it has happened to many other groups, probably like african-americans, mexicans and surely many others. as far as i'm concered, islam teaches it's followers to despise terrorism, and promotes peace, even with people of other religions. suicide bombing is NEVER in their teachings, commiting suicide means a ticket to hell forever.
Bush wouldn't, and didn't, change anything. As Islamic fundamentalism keeps growing, it doesn't matter who's at the helm in the US. They'll keep blowing stuff up and call for death upon the western world. Things like 9/11 would have happened with or without Bush. The bombing in Indonesia also had nothing to do with him, as did the massacre at the House of Habbad in Mombai. Islamic extremists are the worst kind of terrorists there are, and that's why the world hates them. People should really stop blaming George W. Bush on everything and start seeing things as they are. So yeah, the war in Iraq and Afghanistan is something that you can blame on Bush, and all the bad media that it attracted, but hell man, he's not the cause for hatred towards Islam.George Bush. If it weren't for him, then well...
A lot of things would be different.
garathe_den
Islamic terrorists causes Islamophobia, it is as simple as that.MetalGear_Ninty
why the world is allowing that small group to repreasent the 1.4 billion muslim???i am sure you heard abt that muslim lady that was killed by a german man because she is a muslim. there are extremities in both sides muslims and non-muslims, unfortuantly both sides generalize this idea for the rest of the group.
Ignorance.In other words Islamophobe = Ignoramous
The whole idea or correlation is based on a NON-SEQUITUR fallacy.
[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"]Islamic terrorists causes Islamophobia, it is as simple as that.2mrw
why the world is allowing that small group to repreasent the 1.4 billion muslim???i am sure you heard abt that muslim lady that was killed by a german man because she is a muslim. there are extremities in both sides muslims and non-muslims, unfortuantly both sides generalize this idea for the rest of the group.
That doesnt make him wrong, that makes society wrong.I agree with both of you. Its partly due to storys of terroisum by the radical muslims but mainly the stupidity of society to think that those people represent the rest of islam.
It's all cause of the media, they show it as if the whole islamic world is in on a conspiracy againts the rest of the world. This shows that even the news these days are a bunch of tabloids, they'll do anything to get your attention.
I think a lot of it has to do with stereotyping.
There are altogether too many Islamic nations that don't like Israel (no matter how much good they try to do), and the U.S. supports Israel while at the same time wanting the Palestinians to have land.
Only thing is, these other Islamic countries won't denounce and stop funding the terrorists that attack Israel, so therein lies your dilemma.:)
I look at
Terrorists....they mostly claim to be Islamic and working for Islam.
Iran... ruled by Sharia Law, separation of sexes, stoning of women, publicly said they want to wipe Israel of the map, publicly said Islam will take over the world. Iran supports terrorist groups, Iran has nuclear ambitions.
Saudi Arabia... ruled by Sharia Law. Seperatikon of sexes even more extreme than Iran. Women must cover up head to toe and women have no basic rights. The 9/11 terrorists came from Saudi Arabia.
The wacked out reaction of the muslim world to CARTOONS. Death hit decries from Islamic countries on writers and film makers who insult Islam.
The demonstration of millions of Islamic peoiple in the streets chanting death to America and watching them party in the streets after 9/11.
Honor killings...they feel it is ok to slaughter family memebers who break some Islamic customs like, a daughter who holds the hand of a boy.
Should i go on........
I myself would say it is a lack of knowledge and education on the cultrual and theological traditions of Islam. We ourselves fail to understand the majority of moderate Muslims.
Good read: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2001/09/15/koran.htm
I myself remain open minded to any religous belief, looking to find value. In addition, I find that suicide bombers and terrorists have misinterpreted the Koran literally. And as no religious text is meant to be taken literally, with no doubt would they be damaged by such misinterpretation.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles_of_faith/2009/03/scholar_compare.html
In addition, when we hear about a Jewish, Christian or Buddhist man assaulting a person, his religion is always ignored. When we hear about a muslim assaulting a person, his religion is never ignored, which accounts for how Islamophobia is being made mainstream
I look at
Terrorists....they mostly claim to be Islamic and working for Islam.
Iran... ruled by Sharia Law, separation of sexes, stoning of women, publicly said they want to wipe Israel of the map, publicly said Islam will take over the world. Iran supports terrorist groups, Iran has nuclear ambitions.
Saudi Arabia... ruled by Sharia Law. Seperatikon of sexes even more extreme than Iran. Women must cover up head to toe and women have no basic rights. The 9/11 terrorists came from Saudi Arabia.
The wacked out reaction of the muslim world to CARTOONS. Death hit decries from Islamic countries on writers and film makers who insult Islam.
The demonstration of millions of Islamic peoiple in the streets chanting death to America and watching them party in the streets after 9/11.
Honor killings...they feel it is ok to slaughter family memebers who break some Islamic customs like, a daughter who holds the hand of a boy.
Should i go on........
Videodogg
Terrorists.... There isnt much Islamic "terrorist". Blown out of proportion.
Iran... Does not rule by the Sharia, Sharia comes from quran and Sunnah (sayings of the prophet)/ They use part of the quran and they basically reject and Sunnah and have their own books.
Saudi Arabia... Does not rule by Sharia. Deals with interest, Does oppress women to a degree. Oppresses labor workers. The Royal family are crooks.
The prophet is someone we Admire and we are not going to let you dishonor him. Ask questions or critisize to learn. But that was stepping over the line.
I dont know what you are talking about. "Death to something" is a phrase used in the middle east to show frustration.
HOnor Killings are Pre-Islamic. Is has nothing on Islam.
Do go on. i want to see it.
1) Islamic Extremist Terrorists. I think I dont have to say much about this one
2) Media: Particularly fox (FAUX) news,
3) Cultural Differences: The way they look, dress, act, treatwomen, they are totaly different from "western culture standards"
4)Media...again.
5) Ignorance: on both parts. muslims/ non muslims
Terrorists.... There isnt much Islamic "terrorist". Blown out of proportion.
Iran... Does not rule by the Sharia, Sharia comes from quran and Sunnah (sayings of the prophet)/ They use part of the quran and they basically reject and Sunnah and have their own books.
Saudi Arabia... Does not rule by Sharia. Deals with interest, Does oppress women to a degree. Oppresses labor workers. The Royal family are crooks.
The prophet is someone we Admire and we are not going to let you dishonor him. Ask questions or critisize to learn. But that was stepping over the line.
I dont know what you are talking about. "Death to something" is a phrase used in the middle east to show frustration.
HOnor Killings are Pre-Islamic. Is has nothing on Islam.
Do go on. i want to see it.
mixedplanet
Well we have to reply otherwise You might consider this another victory for aggressive stances or so. Cause there You go again with spreading Your ow so scary words. 'we are not going to let You dishonor him'. And i can't say anything about it can i? Or i'll be 'stepping over the line'? That's not the way it works.
You think it's normal to kill people who dishonor a prophet? Or to entice people to kill people who dishonor a prophet? Maybe the prophet would have loved the cartoon, it's not like anyone is asking him. They think it's a good idea to kill in his name. Easy does it, no need to blame Yourself when You love an easily angered prophet. Or isn't it the prophet who is so easily angered and incapable of dealing with jokes? I bet he loved it though. You know i'd love that too, people getting killed after i'm dead because of the things i said.
I look at
Terrorists....they mostly claim to be Islamic and working for Islam.
Iran... ruled by Sharia Law, separation of sexes, stoning of women, publicly said they want to wipe Israel of the map, publicly said Islam will take over the world. Iran supports terrorist groups, Iran has nuclear ambitions.
Saudi Arabia... ruled by Sharia Law. Seperatikon of sexes even more extreme than Iran. Women must cover up head to toe and women have no basic rights. The 9/11 terrorists came from Saudi Arabia.
The wacked out reaction of the muslim world to CARTOONS. Death hit decries from Islamic countries on writers and film makers who insult Islam.
The demonstration of millions of Islamic peoiple in the streets chanting death to America and watching them party in the streets after 9/11.
Honor killings...they feel it is ok to slaughter family memebers who break some Islamic customs like, a daughter who holds the hand of a boy.
Should i go on........
Videodogg
1. Yes, but they claim that, just because they claim doesn't mean they're right.
2. Iran dosen't support terrorism :|
3. Yes, but that's the government's choices on what people do, not the Religion
4. The reason most mMuslims overreacted was that Mohammed's face waas never revealed before in the Religion (no documentation was taken on his looks) and seeing those cartoons was equaled to blasphemy (I admit it was an overreaction)
5. Yeah, no.
6. But that doesn't apply to Islam.
Its a number of things. Firstly, before anything else its the tiny group of retards that blow themselves due to their own delusions and use Islam as an excuse. The media then picks this up and multiplies it by a million, applying it to all muslims to increase 'Islamophobia' which results in some muslims feeling victimised. This then results in anger and angry protests, which makes the media happy and strengthens their biased campaign. This cycle then repeats...
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