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#1 areyoumad
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There is a total blockade of Gaza by Israel. No food, no power no medicines are allowed in. This totally contravenes the Geneva Convention fopr Protection of Civilians during time of war.

The Un spokesman informed CNN reporter about the situation.

He also mentioned that the hospitals are using fuel run generators to try to keep the incubators running, to keep the Palestinian babies alive. But its going to run out soon he said, and unfortunately incubators will be turned off this will be a death sentence to hundreds of Palestinian babies.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20080120/tpl-uk-palestinians-israel-43a8d4f_6.html

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread328127/pg1

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message491778/pg1

why no US or even international condemnation.

if someone says destroy that place then you are an anti semite.double standards.I believe Israel should be relocated.

ps:thanks mods for del my previous post about stock market crashing.

there is no truth or light left in this world.

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#2 Hewkii
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I believe Israel should be relocated.

areyoumad

aside from the Western Sahara and Antarctica, there's nowhere to put them that wouldn't interfere with other people.

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#3 Lonelynight
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I thought blockades has been happening for thousands of years now
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#5 Zagrius
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They're lead by enemies of Israel. Why should a nation support its enemies? And why is it okay for Egypt to not help them in any way?
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#6 jonshr
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well when the palestinians shoot 40 kassam rockets a day on an israeli city, they have to do something about it.

magically, after 1 day of the blockade they didnt shoot any rockets and the israelis stopped it, nothing wrong here.

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#7 Lonelynight
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well when the palestinians shoot 40 kassam rockets a day on an israeli city, they have to do something about it.

magically, after 1 day of the blockade they didnt shoot any rockets and the israelis stopped it, nothing wrong here.

jonshr

Ya, I just read the article and I kind of agree with this guy, though I think it will be better if they allowed some supplies to go in

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#8 Hoobinator
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Sadly the fact is that Israel breaks dozens and dozens of UN resolutions and UN law, but whereas some Middle East nations are villified, Israel gets a free pass.

As usual any condemnation at the UN level will be vetoed away by the US. Hypocrisy at its finest.

And there are people in the US and the west who believe Israel is some "promised holy land", "and Israel shall become a beacon to all nations", right now its a beacon on how to commit the biggest brutalities and atrocities in the world.

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#9 areyoumad
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Sadly the fact is that Israel breaks dozens and dozens of UN resolutions and UN law, but whereas some Middle East nations are villified, Israel gets a free pass.

As usual any condemnation at the UN level will be vetoed away by the US. Hypocrisy at its finest.

And there are people in the US and the west who believe Israel is some "promised holy land", "and Israel shall become a beacon to all nations", right now its a beacon on how to commit the biggest brutalities and atrocities in the world.

Hoobinator

i concur.

the sad part is that isreal will be destroyed ensuing ww3.

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Israel is a joke....
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#11 Zagrius
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Yeah, it's a joke that a country that's always been the victim of aggression is being made into the villain.
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#12 kruesader
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If its a way to stop people firing rockets randomly, then I don't see a problem.

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#13 hamidious
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They're lead by enemies of Israel. Why should a nation support its enemies? And why is it okay for Egypt to not help them in any way?Zagrius
Why should Egypt take responsibility for the crimes of Israel?
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Maybe if the terrorists and islam people stopped trying to steal Jewish land this wouldn't happen. Why can't islams learn that not everything is theirs and not to kill innocnet people. War crimes? No sir, the middle east is trying to kill all the Jewish people. That's a war crime.
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Israel is a joke....jointed
So are most countries.
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#16 hamidious
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well when the palestinians shoot 40 kassam rockets a day on an israeli city, they have to do something about it.

magically, after 1 day of the blockade they didnt shoot any rockets and the israelis stopped it, nothing wrong here.

jonshr
The missiles are fired against Israeli settlements which are illegal according to the U.N because they are built on top of the rubble of former Palestinian houses. Plus, how many people do these rockets kill compared to Israeli rockets?
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[QUOTE="Zagrius"]They're lead by enemies of Israel. Why should a nation support its enemies? And why is it okay for Egypt to not help them in any way?hamidious
Why should Egypt take responsibility for the crimes of Israel?

What crimes? Being attacked by multiple countries? Being attacked by multiple countries again? Giving back territory they gained while defending themselves from the attackers? Being okay with whatever land they got, but having to protect themselves from those who couldn't make do with what they were given?

I won't say that Israel has a spotless record, but I don't see how you could look at what's going on here and say that Israel is evil.

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#18 Zagrius
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[QUOTE="jonshr"]

well when the palestinians shoot 40 kassam rockets a day on an israeli city, they have to do something about it.

magically, after 1 day of the blockade they didnt shoot any rockets and the israelis stopped it, nothing wrong here.

hamidious

The missiles are fired against Israeli settlements which are illegal according to the U.N because they are built on top of the rubble of former Palestinian houses. Plus, how many people do these rockets kill compared to Israeli rockets?

Not just against illegal settlements.

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Maybe if the terrorists and islam people stopped trying to steal Jewish land this wouldn't happen. Why can't islams learn that not everything is there and not to kill innocnet people. War crimes? No sir, the middle east is trying to kill all the Jewish people. That's a war crime.kaos-hero

dont you dare blame this on islam. islam teaches peace and to be kind to others go read the quran. its not islams fault that people dont follow it. it the extremist fault

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[QUOTE="kaos-hero"]Maybe if the terrorists and islam people stopped trying to steal Jewish land this wouldn't happen. Why can't islams learn that not everything is there and not to kill innocnet people. War crimes? No sir, the middle east is trying to kill all the Jewish people. That's a war crime.NSR34GTR

dont you dare blame this on islam. islam teaches peace and to be kind to others go read the quran. its not islams fault that people dont follow it. it the extremist fault

I don't mean to have a go at Islam, but when was the last time you saw Christians, for example, misinterpreting the Bible and then blowing innocent people up?
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[QUOTE="kaos-hero"]Maybe if the terrorists and islam people stopped trying to steal Jewish land this wouldn't happen. Why can't islams learn that not everything is there and not to kill innocnet people. War crimes? No sir, the middle east is trying to kill all the Jewish people. That's a war crime.NSR34GTR

dont you dare blame this on islam. islam teaches peace and to be kind to others go read the quran. its not islams fault that people dont follow it. it the extremist fault



I'm sorry, what religion has been trying to exterminate the Jewish population? Ask any islam and they will say that they hate Jewish people for dumb reasons. Jewish people won Israel and have to fight with nothing aganist countless islams. The islams keep attacking Jewish people for NO reason and they just want to STEAL land. Extremists my arse.
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Ask any islam and they will say that they hate Jewish people for dumb reasons.
kaos-hero

A. it's Muslim.

B. prove it.

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#23 hamidious
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[QUOTE="hamidious"][QUOTE="Zagrius"]They're lead by enemies of Israel. Why should a nation support its enemies? And why is it okay for Egypt to not help them in any way?Zagrius

Why should Egypt take responsibility for the crimes of Israel?

What crimes? Being attacked by multiple countries? Being attacked by multiple countries again? Giving back territory they gained while defending themselves from the attackers? Being okay with whatever land they got, but having to protect themselves from those who couldn't make do with what they were given?

I won't say that Israel has a spotless record, but I don't see how you could look at what's going on here and say that Israel is evil.

Last time I checked, Israel was not being attacked by any country. They were actually doing the attacking, they air strike Syria, invaded Lebanon recently and are trying to convince the US to attack Iran.
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Look, when Palestine fire rockets, they don't hit civilians.

When Isrealis do, they do hit rebels and civilians. So, where's the fairness.

About this blockade thingy, I don't mind them restricting human movement, but supplies and electricity, thats absurd. You got to be kidding? Do they really think the rebels are going to surrender? No way! They don't care. We can't put other's lives on the balance. Innocent people not involved are suffering the most.

Hospitals, schools. Man.. the list can go on.

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#25 kaos-hero
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[QUOTE="kaos-hero"]
Ask any islam and they will say that they hate Jewish people for dumb reasons.
Hewkii

A. it's Muslim.

B. prove it.

http://drinkthis.typepad.com/main/2005/10/muslimshatejews.html

/you fail

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#26 kaos-hero
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Last time I checked, Israel was not being attacked by any country. They were actually doing the attacking, they air strike Syria, invaded Lebanon recently and are trying to convince the US to attack Iran.hamidious


Self protection. When you have Arabs suicide bombing to kill your innocnet childrenm what would you do?
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[QUOTE="Zagrius"]

[QUOTE="hamidious"][QUOTE="Zagrius"]They're lead by enemies of Israel. Why should a nation support its enemies? And why is it okay for Egypt to not help them in any way?hamidious

Why should Egypt take responsibility for the crimes of Israel?

What crimes? Being attacked by multiple countries? Being attacked by multiple countries again? Giving back territory they gained while defending themselves from the attackers? Being okay with whatever land they got, but having to protect themselves from those who couldn't make do with what they were given?

I won't say that Israel has a spotless record, but I don't see how you could look at what's going on here and say that Israel is evil.

Last time I checked, Israel was not being attacked by any country. They were actually doing the attacking, they air strike Syria, invaded Lebanon recently and are trying to convince the US to attack Iran.

In other words, you know nothing about a land you probably haven't even seen with your own eyes before. Was nice talking with you.

When Palestinian insurgents (not Palestine, it's not the country which does it after all, and certainly true Islam has nothing to do with this, no sarcasm) fire Kassams, they aim for civilians. It's just that their aim is bad. The insurgents seem to like congratulating themselves when they do score a hit though.

By the way, I'd also be against the electricity and water blockade if they hadn't elected Hammas as their leaders.

Edit: Oh, and I'm also against the illegal settlements. But guess what, so is the Israeli government! Why else would they be illegal? The reason there are military personel there is that even criminals have the basic right for security. Israeli is a very... Lively place. It's very difficult to predict the outcome, good or bad, of whatever political action you take.

Edit2: Hmm, they're blocking off medicine as well? That is way too harsh. I still don't see why they can't send it through Egypt, but that really is wrong. So they won't let the Red Cross enter either?

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#28 Hewkii
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/you fail

kaos-hero

first off, that's only Muslims in England. second, they aren't hating Jews but merely not wanting them to be treated any different then anyone else.

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#29 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="kaos-hero"]

/you fail

Hewkii

first off, that's only Muslims in England. second, they aren't hating Jews but merely not wanting them to be treated any different then anyone else.

Funny, considering we make so many concessions in England for Muslims.
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#30 Hewkii
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Funny, considering we make so many concessions in England for Muslims.SolidSnake35

I'm just going by the article.

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#31 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]Funny, considering we make so many concessions in England for Muslims.Hewkii

I'm just going by the article.

Fair enough. I just wanted to point that out.
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Yeah, it's a joke that a country that's always been the victim of aggression is being made into the villain.Zagrius

No, it's a joke that the jews in Israel have learned nothing about human values even though they survived the holocaust...

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[QUOTE="Zagrius"]Yeah, it's a joke that a country that's always been the victim of aggression is being made into the villain.jointed

No, it's a joke that the jews in Israel have learned nothing about human values even though they survived the holocaust...



Say that again when people start suicide bombing you and your children.
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as an israeli i can tell you, no jew or israeli has any interest in invading\controlling\conquering other nations, all we want is to live in our home.

the thing with the palestinians kassam rockets is that even though they dont kill alot of people, they r the best example of terror, fear. imagine running to the nearest shelter 40 times a day, its hard and u cant live like that.

i know the people in gaza have 1000x harder life than israelis but its really their fault, if they didnt do ANYTHING to kill as much of us we wouldent do anything to them, its all about self-defense

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[QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="Zagrius"]Yeah, it's a joke that a country that's always been the victim of aggression is being made into the villain.kaos-hero

No, it's a joke that the jews in Israel have learned nothing about human values even though they survived the holocaust...



Say that again when people start suicide bombing you and your children.

They've allready tried :roll:...

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[QUOTE="kaos-hero"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="Zagrius"]Yeah, it's a joke that a country that's always been the victim of aggression is being made into the villain.jointed

No, it's a joke that the jews in Israel have learned nothing about human values even though they survived the holocaust...



Say that again when people start suicide bombing you and your children.

They've allready tried :roll:...

Now imagine that they've succeeded more than just a few times.

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[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="kaos-hero"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="Zagrius"]Yeah, it's a joke that a country that's always been the victim of aggression is being made into the villain.Zagrius

No, it's a joke that the jews in Israel have learned nothing about human values even though they survived the holocaust...



Say that again when people start suicide bombing you and your children.

They've allready tried :roll:...

Now imagine that they've succeeded more than just a few times.

They did succed...

But it really doesn't matter...the country is an artificial joke and shouldn't exist.

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[QUOTE="Zagrius"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="kaos-hero"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="Zagrius"]Yeah, it's a joke that a country that's always been the victim of aggression is being made into the villain.jointed

No, it's a joke that the jews in Israel have learned nothing about human values even though they survived the holocaust...



Say that again when people start suicide bombing you and your children.

They've allready tried :roll:...

Now imagine that they've succeeded more than just a few times.

They did succed...

But it really doesn't matter...the country is an artificial joke and shouldn't exist.

Well, it's pretty obvious what my opinion is.

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You need to becareful what you read/hear in the media. Remember they only tell you what they think you'll be interested in hearing. It's not always true and when it is a true story its usually VERY one sided. Horrible things happen in the world, and listening to the media and it's propaganda doesn't help.

Perfect example is for the war in Iraq. On tv here in Australia they showed footage of people in Iraq burning flags.. what they didn't say was that the footage was actually from the first gulf war. They show it to help incite emotion into viewers, make them angry and agree to war. It's propaganda and it works. The horrible thing is that it works and the story is changed to get the result they want.

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Israel is a joke....jointed

The UN is a joke

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[QUOTE="jointed"]Israel is a joke....GP1mil

The UN is a joke

Yeah, they played a huge role in the creation of Israel...

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Err, according to the BBC, Israel just let up on its restrictions somewhat.
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#43 rimnet00
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The problem is, just like Palestinians and the hard lining Hamas party... Israel has it's own hard lined Zionist party which has the goal of taking even more land. On one hand Israel suggests it wants peace... but on the other hand continues to build new settlements in contested territory. In fact, they do so very strategically by spreading them out across the west bank and the gaza strip -- while at the same time destoying housing, vegitation, and taking lives of Palestinians where they live.

The picture is damn clear. The problem exists on both sides, as these Zionist tactics are just as bad as Hamas's tactics... the only difference is, Israel gets no flack for it.

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#44 Zagrius
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I guess that they understood that blocking out humanitarian aid is stupid.
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The problem is, just like Palestinians and the hard lining Hamas party... Israel has it's own hard lined Zionist party which has the goal of taking back even more of land. This is why, one one hand Israel suggests it wants peace... but on the other hand continues to build new settlements in contested territory. In fact, they do so very strategically by spreading them out across the west bank and the gaza strip -- while at the same time destoying housing, vegitation, and taking lives of Palestinians where they live.

The picture is damn clear. The problem exists on both sides, as these Zionist tactics are just as bad as Hamas's tactics... the only difference is, Israel gets no flack for it.

rimnet00

No flack for it? Almost half the world thinks the Palestinians have horns on their heads, the other almost-half thinks it's the Israelis who wear the horns.

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#46 Rattlesnake_8
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Err, according to the BBC, Israel just let up on its restrictions somewhat.Funkyhamster

Its the same over and over and over.. the same thing has been happening there for decades. Numerous meetings with world leaders to try to sort out a peace.. nothing works. I feel sorry for the innocents there, but surely anyone that lives there chooses it.. or they'd move out of the area in closer to the opposite side of their country.

The sad thing is that there are troops there "guarding" the border. You get a group of people (kids) protesting.. then all of a sudden someone runs out with a molotov cocktail and launches it in the troops direction. The troops open fire and innocent people die. But What are they supposed to do? They fire because they are under attack. Either way the situation is REALLY bad and has been for a LONG time. They should put a wall up similar to the Berlin wall.. maybe that will sort it out.. although they need to make it high enough so no one can throw stuff over :P

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#47 Napster06
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You need to becareful what you read/hear in the media. Remember they only tell you what they think you'll be interested in hearing. It's not always true and when it is a true story its usually VERY one sided. Horrible things happen in the world, and listening to the media and it's propaganda doesn't help.

Perfect example is for the war in Iraq. On tv here in Australia they showed footage of people in Iraq burning flags.. what they didn't say was that the footage was actually from the first gulf war. They show it to help incite emotion into viewers, make them angry and agree to war. It's propaganda and it works. The horrible thing is that it works and the story is changed to get the result they want.

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Its true though. That's why you have to look at both sides. And learn some history. Originally, the Jews were given some piece of land. And it turned ugly after a while. I've read about it, but I don't really remember so I'm going far off.

Media is a way to control people's emotion. Do you think they're going to show what really happens? It is always bias. CNN will always show the coalition army success or exaggerate a small issue.

AL-Jazeera on the other hand, would center around the extremists.

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#48 obsolete2k1
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"Israel" has been committing crimes against Palestine since 1949, so nothing new, nothing changes.
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#49 MattUD1
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Honestly... who hasn't commited a war crime?
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#50 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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Honestly... who hasn't commited a war crime?MattUD1

Tibet? :P