[QUOTE="MattUD1"]Honestly... who hasn't commited a war crime?jointed
Tibet? :P
Touche.Isreal commiting war crimes.gaza blockade
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Honestly... who hasn't commited a war crime?MattUD1I'm innocent on this one.
If rockets were shot into my cities everyday and everyone already thought that we were the bad guys, I really wouldn't care about some worthless piece of crap I mean U.N. regulations either.
I'm also pretty sure that the holocaust that some people in the Middle East want to create would be a War Crime.
[QUOTE="NSR34GTR"][QUOTE="kaos-hero"]Maybe if the terrorists and islam people stopped trying to steal Jewish land this wouldn't happen. Why can't islams learn that not everything is there and not to kill innocnet people. War crimes? No sir, the middle east is trying to kill all the Jewish people. That's a war crime.SolidSnake35
dont you dare blame this on islam. islam teaches peace and to be kind to others go read the quran. its not islams fault that people dont follow it. it the extremist fault
I don't mean to have a go at Islam, but when was the last time you saw Christians, for example, misinterpreting the Bible and then blowing innocent people up?The Crusades and The Spanish Inquistion? Witch burning in America?
Israel is a country which shouldn't have been put together in the first place.
[QUOTE="obsolete2k1"]"Israel" has been committing crimes against Palestine since 1949, so nothing new, nothing changes.ferretzorAnd Vice Versa.
Well, Palestine was a soveirgn nation before then, and the Israelis invaded their land and took it. Who was in the wrong?
there are alot of mis-informed people here... but put it this way. Have the rockets stopped flying into Israel now that they've done this. yes, yes they have.
and if you say Israel are wrong for doing this then you are most likely a hypocrite. I know that if a nation decided that firing missiles into englad was fun and all england needed to do was blockade them they would be blockaded. And most probably bombed for good measure. America would do the same and pretty much every nation capable of it would do it if in the same position.
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And Vice Versa.[QUOTE="ferretzor"][QUOTE="obsolete2k1"]"Israel" has been committing crimes against Palestine since 1949, so nothing new, nothing changes.Engrish_Major
Well, Palestine was a soveirgn nation before then, and the Israelis invaded their land and took it. Who was in the wrong?
Can you give evidence for this sovereign nation of Palestine's existence? From what I recall it belonged to the Turks, Jordan and Egypt, then the UK, then maybe you could say that Palestine existed until Israel took their territory in the war of independence (initiated by Syria, Egypt and Jordan).
And Vice Versa.[QUOTE="ferretzor"][QUOTE="obsolete2k1"]"Israel" has been committing crimes against Palestine since 1949, so nothing new, nothing changes.Engrish_Major
Well, Palestine was a soveirgn nation before then, and the Israelis invaded their land and took it. Who was in the wrong?
Someone is misinformed. I'm pretty sure the League of Nations tried to create Israel seeing a need for a Jewish nation. The Arab League rejected the plan but Israel and it's people that were already there declared their independence anyway.Why do people always have a go at Israel? Can i make the point Jews have been in that part of the world for thousands of years, until they were conquered by Muslims (put simply i know, all the stuff with byzantine aswell).
If every Islamic country had not automatically declared war on Israel (which was tiny when created in comparison) the second it was created we would not be in this situation. A country has a right to defend itself. And there not stopping anything from getting in, there just not allowing anything from Israel in. You don't have to help and trade with a people who shoot 40 odd rockets at you a day. And if each attack was shown on the news like every thing wrong Israel does wrong, lots of people would have a different point of view.
Egypt is free to help the people a Gaza as much as they want so why don't they? Israel is always made out to be the trouble maker, yet it a tiny country of about 7 million clinging to the edge of the Mediterranean, surrounded by Islamic countries who have wanted it destroyed since its existence just because there Jews.
Give it a rest...
I fail to see how the hell one can support/defend Israel...you'd have to be misinformed or just plain stupid.
It's not as if Israel peacefully came into existence and then all of a sudden the arabs began to launch missles and **** at them.
The Israelis have been demolishing large parts of the muslim quarters in Jerusalem, they've over decades conquered new parts of palestine, parts which were not a part of the original plan, they've demolished entire villages and forced their inhabitants to move inside of the west bank barrier...this **** is crazy.
They're doing a lot of messed up things and they're not accountable to anyone but themselves...
well when the palestinians shoot 40 kassam rockets a day on an israeli city, they have to do something about it.
magically, after 1 day of the blockade they didnt shoot any rockets and the israelis stopped it, nothing wrong here.
jonshr
I fail to see how the hell one can support/defend Israel...you'd have to be misinformed or just plain stupid.
It's not as if Israel peacefully came into existence and then all of a sudden the arabs began to launch missle and **** at them.
The Israelis have been demolishing large parts of the muslim quarters in Jerusalem, they've over decades conquered new parts of palestine, parts which were not a part of the original plan, they've demolished entire villages and forced their inhabitants to move inside of the west bank barrier...this **** is crazy.
They're doing a lot of messed up things and they're not accountable to anyone but themselves...
jointed
^Said it best
well if thats the case lets move Israel.... how about we kick out every body in Vermont and put Israeli there.... im sure the Americans would to totally okay with that.....Why do people always have a go at Israel? Can i make the point Jews have been in that part of the world for thousands of years, until they were conquered by Muslims (put simply i know, all the stuff with byzantine aswell).
If every Islamic country had not automatically declared war on Israel (which was tiny when created in comparison) the second it was created we would not be in this situation. A country has a right to defend itself. And there not stopping anything from getting in, there just not allowing anything from Israel in. You don't have to help and trade with a people who shoot 40 odd rockets at you a day. And if each attack was shown on the news like every thing wrong Israel does wrong, lots of people would have a different point of view.
Egypt is free to help the people a Gaza as much as they want so why don't they? Israel is always made out to be the trouble maker, yet it a tiny country of about 7 million clinging to the edge of the Mediterranean, surrounded by Islamic countries who have wanted it destroyed since its existence just because there Jews.
Give it a rest...
Darthric
I fail to see how the hell one can support/defend Israel...you'd have to be misinformed or just plain stupid.
It's not as if Israel peacefully came into existence and then all of a sudden the arabs began to launch missle and **** at them.
The Israelis have been demolishing large parts of the muslim quarters in Jerusalem, they've over decades conquered new parts of palestine, parts which were not a part of the original plan, they've demolished entire villages and forced their inhabitants to move inside of the west bank barrier...this **** is crazy.
They're doing a lot of messed up things and they're not accountable to anyone but themselves...
jointed
It's true, Israel didn't come into existence peacefully. Even before the Palestinians or Israelis had a country of their own the local Jewish and Arab population fought each other. In the end Britian just said '**** it' and made the seperation plan, then got out of there as soon as they could. The Jewish people were happy to have lands of their own, but the Arab population didn't want it to be so. The surrounding Arabic nations attacked the Israelis once they declared independence. Israel had to fight off multiple armies of established countries to come into existence.
Note that while Israel did take over land, it was always in wars initiated by others. And in peace agreements many of those lands were returned. The government was even willing to go back to the 1967 borders, but getting out of the Gaza Strip only resulted in masses of Kassam attacks.
By the way, it's interesting how much room Syria has for Iraqi refugees, considering that they weren't willing to take many Palestinian refugees.
[QUOTE="jointed"]I fail to see how the hell one can support/defend Israel...you'd have to be misinformed or just plain stupid.
It's not as if Israel peacefully came into existence and then all of a sudden the arabs began to launch missle and **** at them.
The Israelis have been demolishing large parts of the muslim quarters in Jerusalem, they've over decades conquered new parts of palestine, parts which were not a part of the original plan, they've demolished entire villages and forced their inhabitants to move inside of the west bank barrier...this **** is crazy.
They're doing a lot of messed up things and they're not accountable to anyone but themselves...
Zagrius
It's true, Israeli didn't come into existence peacefully. Even before the Palestinians or Israelis had a country of their own the local Jewish and Arab population fought each other. In the end Britian just said '**** it' and made the seperation plan, then got out of there as soon as they could. The Jewish people were happy to have lands of their own, but the Arab population didn't want it to be so. The surrounding Arabic nations attacked the Israelis once they declared independence. Israel had to fight off multiple armies of established countries to come into existence.
Note that while Israeli did take over land, it was always in wars initiated by others. And in peace agreements many of those lands were returned. The government was even willing to go back to the 1967 borders, but getting out of the Gaza Strip only resulted in masses of Kasam attacks.
By the way, it's interesting how much room Syria has for Iraqi refugees, considering that they weren't willing to take many Palestinian refugees.
Yes how bizarre.... The Arab countries attacked foreign ppl invading land??? thats crazy.... if Israel had kicked out Americans then im sure they wouldn't have minded... oh and just so you know, it was Israel that struck first......[QUOTE="jointed"]I fail to see how the hell one can support/defend Israel...you'd have to be misinformed or just plain stupid.
It's not as if Israel peacefully came into existence and then all of a sudden the arabs began to launch missle and **** at them.
The Israelis have been demolishing large parts of the muslim quarters in Jerusalem, they've over decades conquered new parts of palestine, parts which were not a part of the original plan, they've demolished entire villages and forced their inhabitants to move inside of the west bank barrier...this **** is crazy.
They're doing a lot of messed up things and they're not accountable to anyone but themselves...
Zagrius
It's true, Israel didn't come into existence peacefully. Even before the Palestinians or Israelis had a country of their own the local Jewish and Arab population fought each other. In the end Britian just said '**** it' and made the seperation plan, then got out of there as soon as they could. The Jewish people were happy to have lands of their own, but the Arab population didn't want it to be so. The surrounding Arabic nations attacked the Israelis once they declared independence. Israel had to fight off multiple armies of established countries to come into existence.
Note that while Israel did take over land, it was always in wars initiated by others. And in peace agreements many of those lands were returned. The government was even willing to go back to the 1967 borders, but getting out of the Gaza Strip only resulted in masses of Kassam attacks.
By the way, it's interesting how much room Syria has for Iraqi refugees, considering that they weren't willing to take many Palestinian refugees.
That is completely irrelevant. If I kill you with purpose, but pay for your funeral...should your relatives look the other way...hmm or perhaps they should thank me for my generosity?
[QUOTE="Zagrius"][QUOTE="jointed"]I fail to see how the hell one can support/defend Israel...you'd have to be misinformed or just plain stupid.
It's not as if Israel peacefully came into existence and then all of a sudden the arabs began to launch missle and **** at them.
The Israelis have been demolishing large parts of the muslim quarters in Jerusalem, they've over decades conquered new parts of palestine, parts which were not a part of the original plan, they've demolished entire villages and forced their inhabitants to move inside of the west bank barrier...this **** is crazy.
They're doing a lot of messed up things and they're not accountable to anyone but themselves...
jointed
It's true, Israel didn't come into existence peacefully. Even before the Palestinians or Israelis had a country of their own the local Jewish and Arab population fought each other. In the end Britian just said '**** it' and made the seperation plan, then got out of there as soon as they could. The Jewish people were happy to have lands of their own, but the Arab population didn't want it to be so. The surrounding Arabic nations attacked the Israelis once they declared independence. Israel had to fight off multiple armies of established countries to come into existence.
Note that while Israel did take over land, it was always in wars initiated by others. And in peace agreements many of those lands were returned. The government was even willing to go back to the 1967 borders, but getting out of the Gaza Strip only resulted in masses of Kassam attacks.
By the way, it's interesting how much room Syria has for Iraqi refugees, considering that they weren't willing to take many Palestinian refugees.
That is completely irrelevant. If I kill you with purpose, but pay for your funeral...should your relatives look the other way...hmm or perhaps they should thank me for my generosity?
If you kill me for the purpose of self defense, then you're probably doing more than I deserve when paying for my funeral.
[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Zagrius"][QUOTE="jointed"]I fail to see how the hell one can support/defend Israel...you'd have to be misinformed or just plain stupid.
It's not as if Israel peacefully came into existence and then all of a sudden the arabs began to launch missle and **** at them.
The Israelis have been demolishing large parts of the muslim quarters in Jerusalem, they've over decades conquered new parts of palestine, parts which were not a part of the original plan, they've demolished entire villages and forced their inhabitants to move inside of the west bank barrier...this **** is crazy.
They're doing a lot of messed up things and they're not accountable to anyone but themselves...
Zagrius
It's true, Israel didn't come into existence peacefully. Even before the Palestinians or Israelis had a country of their own the local Jewish and Arab population fought each other. In the end Britian just said '**** it' and made the seperation plan, then got out of there as soon as they could. The Jewish people were happy to have lands of their own, but the Arab population didn't want it to be so. The surrounding Arabic nations attacked the Israelis once they declared independence. Israel had to fight off multiple armies of established countries to come into existence.
Note that while Israel did take over land, it was always in wars initiated by others. And in peace agreements many of those lands were returned. The government was even willing to go back to the 1967 borders, but getting out of the Gaza Strip only resulted in masses of Kassam attacks.
By the way, it's interesting how much room Syria has for Iraqi refugees, considering that they weren't willing to take many Palestinian refugees.
That is completely irrelevant. If I kill you with purpose, but pay for your funeral...should your relatives look the other way...hmm or perhaps they should thank me for my generosity?
If you kill me for the purpose of self defense, then you're probably doing more than I deserve when paying for my funeral.
Hmm, you failed to see the point.
According to you, the nazis were right in mercilessly crushing any resistance in the occupied countries..since they did it in "self defense". My point is that you have to put it into context.
The resistance groups attacked the germans because they were treated like **** and because the germans OCCUPIED their land.
Same goes for Israel.
If you kill me for the purpose of self defense, then you're probably doing more than I deserve when paying for my funeral.
its not self defense if you break into someones house.....Well that's pretty bad, but people from gaza are bombing us for years now, they bomb a town called sderot and a couple of other cities in Israel... and they've killed our people aswell...innocent people...gaza's people deserve that...The_lol_makerIf the innocent ppl in Gaza deserve to die then so do the Innocent ppl in Israel....
The nazis were trying to destroy any resistance(and the jewish resistance) and completely eliminate every jew on the planet, are you saying that Israel is trying to to the same to the muslim people?:| I'd say not. The_lol_maker
The nazis were trying to destroy the resistance movements because they posed a threat to them...aka..self defense.
You guys are apparently OK with the nazi tactics...I would be too if I took them out of context (well, not really).
You have to ask yourselves WHY the attacks happen, and not just conclude that an attack/threat automatically needs a counter attack.
killtactics
If you kill me for the purpose of self defense, then you're probably doing more than I deserve when paying for my funeral.
its not self defense if you break into someones house.....Yeah, but they're the one who broke in, it's just that after facing a lot of resistance they retreated back into their room.
[QUOTE="The_lol_maker"]Well that's pretty bad, but people from gaza are bombing us for years now, they bomb a town called sderot and a couple of other cities in Israel... and they've killed our people aswell...innocent people...gaza's people deserve that...killtacticsIf the innocent ppl in Gaza deserve to die then so do the Innocent ppl in Israel....
No one needs to die... it is as if if they'll stop bombing us then we'll stop attacking them... but the reallity isn't like so and that's just sad...:(
[QUOTE="The_lol_maker"]The nazis were trying to destroy any resistance(and the jewish resistance) and completely eliminate every jew on the planet, are you saying that Israel is trying to to the same to the muslim people?:| I'd say not. jointed
The nazis were trying to destroy the resistance movements because they posed a threat to them...aka..self defense.
You guys are apparently OK with the nazi tactics...I would be too if I took them out of context (well, not really).
You have to ask yourselves WHY the attacks happen, and not just conclude that an attack/threat automatically needs a counter attack.
I'm talking about when Israel defended itself from attacks from Syria, Egypt and Jordan combined. What does that have to do with Nazis? Heck, why not, I'm a Zionazi! Happy? I'm an evil bastard, trying to throw all the Arabs into the sea, which is why I'm currently living in a dorm-room where half the students are Arabs, and surprisingly none of us care. I guess I forgot up until now. Please wait while I go and commit some mass-murder, as any Zionazi would!
[QUOTE="killtactics"]Zagrius
If you kill me for the purpose of self defense, then you're probably doing more than I deserve when paying for my funeral.
its not self defense if you break into someones house.....Yeah, but they're the one who broke in, it's just that after facing a lot of resistance they retreated back into their room.
I was talking about Palestine..... And what did you think? that the Arabs were going to sit by and do nothing? Any county would attack an invasion.....If the innocent ppl in Gaza deserve to die then so do the Innocent ppl in Israel....[QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="The_lol_maker"]Well that's pretty bad, but people from gaza are bombing us for years now, they bomb a town called sderot and a couple of other cities in Israel... and they've killed our people aswell...innocent people...gaza's people deserve that...The_lol_maker
No one needs to die... it is as if if they'll stop bombing us then we'll stop attacking them... but the reallity isn't like so and that's just sad...:(
no one needs to die? you just said they desrve it......[QUOTE="The_lol_maker"]The nazis were trying to destroy any resistance(and the jewish resistance) and completely eliminate every jew on the planet, are you saying that Israel is trying to to the same to the muslim people?:| I'd say not. jointed
The nazis were trying to destroy the resistance movements because they posed a threat to them...aka..self defense.
You guys are apparently OK with the nazi tactics...I would be too if I took them out of context (well, not really).
You have to ask yourselves WHY the attacks happen, and not just conclude that an attack/threat automatically needs a counter attack.
The nazis were different, they were simply racist, It was there goal to eliminate jews(the resistance....). If someone would try to eliminate your people(like what the nazis did to the jews), would you just sit down and won't do anything?
[QUOTE="Zagrius"][QUOTE="killtactics"]killtactics
If you kill me for the purpose of self defense, then you're probably doing more than I deserve when paying for my funeral.
its not self defense if you break into someones house.....Yeah, but they're the one who broke in, it's just that after facing a lot of resistance they retreated back into their room.
I was talking about Palestine..... And what did you think? that the Arabs were going to sit by and do nothing? Any county would attack an invasion.....But they were the invaders, along with the surrounding nations. Did you bother checking the history of the area, or are you just basing your opinion on whatever media outlet you decided is the only un-biased one?
[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="The_lol_maker"]The nazis were trying to destroy any resistance(and the jewish resistance) and completely eliminate every jew on the planet, are you saying that Israel is trying to to the same to the muslim people?:| I'd say not. The_lol_maker
The nazis were trying to destroy the resistance movements because they posed a threat to them...aka..self defense.
You guys are apparently OK with the nazi tactics...I would be too if I took them out of context (well, not really).
You have to ask yourselves WHY the attacks happen, and not just conclude that an attack/threat automatically needs a counter attack.
The nazis were different, they were simply racist, It was there goal to eliminate jews(the resistance....). If someone would try to eliminate your people(like what the nazis did to the jews), would you just sit down and won't do anything?
I think that most of the extremist anti-Israelis would be fine if all of Palestine was under Arab control. It's okay for the Jews to have their country, as long as it bothers someone else and not the Arabs.
[QUOTE="The_lol_maker"]If the innocent ppl in Gaza deserve to die then so do the Innocent ppl in Israel....[QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="The_lol_maker"]Well that's pretty bad, but people from gaza are bombing us for years now, they bomb a town called sderot and a couple of other cities in Israel... and they've killed our people aswell...innocent people...gaza's people deserve that...killtactics
No one needs to die... it is as if if they'll stop bombing us then we'll stop attacking them... but the reallity isn't like so and that's just sad...:(
no one needs to die? you just said they desrve it......As if there is no need of killing, if people can work together in peace.
But that's why I said that the reallity isn't like that, and that the two sides are in a conflict at the moment...
[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="The_lol_maker"]The nazis were trying to destroy any resistance(and the jewish resistance) and completely eliminate every jew on the planet, are you saying that Israel is trying to to the same to the muslim people?:| I'd say not. Zagrius
The nazis were trying to destroy the resistance movements because they posed a threat to them...aka..self defense.
You guys are apparently OK with the nazi tactics...I would be too if I took them out of context (well, not really).
You have to ask yourselves WHY the attacks happen, and not just conclude that an attack/threat automatically needs a counter attack.
I'm talking about when Israel defended itself from attacks from Syria, Egypt and Jordan combined. What does that have to do with Nazis? Heck, why not, I'm a Zionazi! Happy? I'm an evil bastard, trying to throw all the Arabs into the sea, which is why I'm currently living in a dorm-room where half the students are Arabs, and surprisingly none of us care. I guess I forgot up until now. Please wait while I go and commit some mass-murder, as any Zionazi would!
Well, they're currently building a huge frekkin wall around the whole west bank...very similar to what the nazis did in Warzaw.
But seriously, how the hell can you even think of defending Israel. Yes they were attacked first, but that's because they occupied foreign land.
[QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="Zagrius"][QUOTE="killtactics"]Zagrius
If you kill me for the purpose of self defense, then you're probably doing more than I deserve when paying for my funeral.
its not self defense if you break into someones house.....Yeah, but they're the one who broke in, it's just that after facing a lot of resistance they retreated back into their room.
I was talking about Palestine..... And what did you think? that the Arabs were going to sit by and do nothing? Any county would attack an invasion.....But they were the invaders, along with the surrounding nations. Did you bother checking the history of the area, or are you just basing your opinion on whatever media outlet you decided is the only un-biased one?
Oh i see the land belongs to the jews b/c they held it a thousand years ago..... If we are going to use that logic fine.... but lets use it for the entire world... For example lets get rid of all the Americans in America since America does not belong to them.... hell we can redraw the entire world.....But your right its ludicrous that arab county's would attack a country invading an arab country..... im sure if this happened in France the French ppl would be totally okay with it.... there would be no wars or fighting......
[QUOTE="Zagrius"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="The_lol_maker"]The nazis were trying to destroy any resistance(and the jewish resistance) and completely eliminate every jew on the planet, are you saying that Israel is trying to to the same to the muslim people?:| I'd say not. jointed
The nazis were trying to destroy the resistance movements because they posed a threat to them...aka..self defense.
You guys are apparently OK with the nazi tactics...I would be too if I took them out of context (well, not really).
You have to ask yourselves WHY the attacks happen, and not just conclude that an attack/threat automatically needs a counter attack.
I'm talking about when Israel defended itself from attacks from Syria, Egypt and Jordan combined. What does that have to do with Nazis? Heck, why not, I'm a Zionazi! Happy? I'm an evil bastard, trying to throw all the Arabs into the sea, which is why I'm currently living in a dorm-room where half the students are Arabs, and surprisingly none of us care. I guess I forgot up until now. Please wait while I go and commit some mass-murder, as any Zionazi would!
Well, they're currently building a huge frekkin wall around the whole west bank...very similar to what the nazis did in Warzaw.
But seriously, how the hell can you even think of defending Israel. Yes they were attacked first, but that's because they occupied foreign land.
They didn't occupy it, it was given to them. And the wall is to seperate between Israel and the Palestinian territories. It's more like the Berlin wall than the ghettos. And I live in Israel, hence my pro-Israeli bias.
[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="The_lol_maker"]The nazis were trying to destroy any resistance(and the jewish resistance) and completely eliminate every jew on the planet, are you saying that Israel is trying to to the same to the muslim people?:| I'd say not. The_lol_maker
The nazis were trying to destroy the resistance movements because they posed a threat to them...aka..self defense.
You guys are apparently OK with the nazi tactics...I would be too if I took them out of context (well, not really).
You have to ask yourselves WHY the attacks happen, and not just conclude that an attack/threat automatically needs a counter attack.
The nazis were different, they were simply racist, It was there goal to eliminate jews(the resistance....). If someone would try to eliminate your people(like what the nazis did to the jews), would you just sit down and won't do anything?
First of all, no one knew about the holocaust until the end of the war.
The resistance groups fought against the nazis because they occupied their land...not because they didn't like the nazi ideology...they couldn't care less. Now, according to you, that was wrong.
[QUOTE="The_lol_maker"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="The_lol_maker"]The nazis were trying to destroy any resistance(and the jewish resistance) and completely eliminate every jew on the planet, are you saying that Israel is trying to to the same to the muslim people?:| I'd say not. Zagrius
The nazis were trying to destroy the resistance movements because they posed a threat to them...aka..self defense.
You guys are apparently OK with the nazi tactics...I would be too if I took them out of context (well, not really).
You have to ask yourselves WHY the attacks happen, and not just conclude that an attack/threat automatically needs a counter attack.
The nazis were different, they were simply racist, It was there goal to eliminate jews(the resistance....). If someone would try to eliminate your people(like what the nazis did to the jews), would you just sit down and won't do anything?
I think that most of the extremist anti-Israelis would be fine if all of Palestine was under Arab control. It's okay for the Jews to have their country, as long as it bothers someone else and not the Arabs.
No its not ok for the Jews to have there own country.... and thats the fundamental problem.... Some ppl think that Jews some how have a right to a homeland.... no one has the right to land, you either have it or you dont...If you would ever read the jewish bible, you would know that the land was ours(the jews) alot of time ago before we got exlied by other people.we recalimed what we own... plus we gave the alot of land to the palestines... all of the world had recognized Israel as an official country, and only the palestines don't....The_lol_makerWell i guess we should just kick all the Americans out too then.... give them back to the Native Americans....
[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Zagrius"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="The_lol_maker"]The nazis were trying to destroy any resistance(and the jewish resistance) and completely eliminate every jew on the planet, are you saying that Israel is trying to to the same to the muslim people?:| I'd say not. Zagrius
The nazis were trying to destroy the resistance movements because they posed a threat to them...aka..self defense.
You guys are apparently OK with the nazi tactics...I would be too if I took them out of context (well, not really).
You have to ask yourselves WHY the attacks happen, and not just conclude that an attack/threat automatically needs a counter attack.
I'm talking about when Israel defended itself from attacks from Syria, Egypt and Jordan combined. What does that have to do with Nazis? Heck, why not, I'm a Zionazi! Happy? I'm an evil bastard, trying to throw all the Arabs into the sea, which is why I'm currently living in a dorm-room where half the students are Arabs, and surprisingly none of us care. I guess I forgot up until now. Please wait while I go and commit some mass-murder, as any Zionazi would!
Well, they're currently building a huge frekkin wall around the whole west bank...very similar to what the nazis did in Warzaw.
But seriously, how the hell can you even think of defending Israel. Yes they were attacked first, but that's because they occupied foreign land.
They didn't occupy it, it was given to them. And the wall is to seperate between Israel and the Palestinian territories. It's more like the Berlin wall than the ghettos. And I live in Israel, hence my pro-Israeli bias.
Israel occupied territories later on...
[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Zagrius"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="The_lol_maker"]The nazis were trying to destroy any resistance(and the jewish resistance) and completely eliminate every jew on the planet, are you saying that Israel is trying to to the same to the muslim people?:| I'd say not. Zagrius
The nazis were trying to destroy the resistance movements because they posed a threat to them...aka..self defense.
You guys are apparently OK with the nazi tactics...I would be too if I took them out of context (well, not really).
You have to ask yourselves WHY the attacks happen, and not just conclude that an attack/threat automatically needs a counter attack.
I'm talking about when Israel defended itself from attacks from Syria, Egypt and Jordan combined. What does that have to do with Nazis? Heck, why not, I'm a Zionazi! Happy? I'm an evil bastard, trying to throw all the Arabs into the sea, which is why I'm currently living in a dorm-room where half the students are Arabs, and surprisingly none of us care. I guess I forgot up until now. Please wait while I go and commit some mass-murder, as any Zionazi would!
Well, they're currently building a huge frekkin wall around the whole west bank...very similar to what the nazis did in Warzaw.
But seriously, how the hell can you even think of defending Israel. Yes they were attacked first, but that's because they occupied foreign land.
They didn't occupy it, it was given to them. And the wall is to seperate between Israel and the Palestinian territories. It's more like the Berlin wall than the ghettos. And I live in Israel, hence my pro-Israeli bias.
Exactly, my fellow Israeli :D
[QUOTE="Zagrius"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Zagrius"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="The_lol_maker"]The nazis were trying to destroy any resistance(and the jewish resistance) and completely eliminate every jew on the planet, are you saying that Israel is trying to to the same to the muslim people?:| I'd say not. jointed
The nazis were trying to destroy the resistance movements because they posed a threat to them...aka..self defense.
You guys are apparently OK with the nazi tactics...I would be too if I took them out of context (well, not really).
You have to ask yourselves WHY the attacks happen, and not just conclude that an attack/threat automatically needs a counter attack.
I'm talking about when Israel defended itself from attacks from Syria, Egypt and Jordan combined. What does that have to do with Nazis? Heck, why not, I'm a Zionazi! Happy? I'm an evil bastard, trying to throw all the Arabs into the sea, which is why I'm currently living in a dorm-room where half the students are Arabs, and surprisingly none of us care. I guess I forgot up until now. Please wait while I go and commit some mass-murder, as any Zionazi would!
Well, they're currently building a huge frekkin wall around the whole west bank...very similar to what the nazis did in Warzaw.
But seriously, how the hell can you even think of defending Israel. Yes they were attacked first, but that's because they occupied foreign land.
They didn't occupy it, it was given to them. And the wall is to seperate between Israel and the Palestinian territories. It's more like the Berlin wall than the ghettos. And I live in Israel, hence my pro-Israeli bias.
Israel occupied territories later on...
And gave them back for peace... learn some history...
[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Zagrius"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Zagrius"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="The_lol_maker"]The nazis were trying to destroy any resistance(and the jewish resistance) and completely eliminate every jew on the planet, are you saying that Israel is trying to to the same to the muslim people?:| I'd say not. The_lol_maker
The nazis were trying to destroy the resistance movements because they posed a threat to them...aka..self defense.
You guys are apparently OK with the nazi tactics...I would be too if I took them out of context (well, not really).
You have to ask yourselves WHY the attacks happen, and not just conclude that an attack/threat automatically needs a counter attack.
I'm talking about when Israel defended itself from attacks from Syria, Egypt and Jordan combined. What does that have to do with Nazis? Heck, why not, I'm a Zionazi! Happy? I'm an evil bastard, trying to throw all the Arabs into the sea, which is why I'm currently living in a dorm-room where half the students are Arabs, and surprisingly none of us care. I guess I forgot up until now. Please wait while I go and commit some mass-murder, as any Zionazi would!
Well, they're currently building a huge frekkin wall around the whole west bank...very similar to what the nazis did in Warzaw.
But seriously, how the hell can you even think of defending Israel. Yes they were attacked first, but that's because they occupied foreign land.
They didn't occupy it, it was given to them. And the wall is to seperate between Israel and the Palestinian territories. It's more like the Berlin wall than the ghettos. And I live in Israel, hence my pro-Israeli bias.
Israel occupied territories later on...
And gave them back for peace... learn some history...
Ehm no? They still occupy large territories in southern "Israel"....
[QUOTE="Zagrius"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Zagrius"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="The_lol_maker"]The nazis were trying to destroy any resistance(and the jewish resistance) and completely eliminate every jew on the planet, are you saying that Israel is trying to to the same to the muslim people?:| I'd say not. The_lol_maker
The nazis were trying to destroy the resistance movements because they posed a threat to them...aka..self defense.
You guys are apparently OK with the nazi tactics...I would be too if I took them out of context (well, not really).
You have to ask yourselves WHY the attacks happen, and not just conclude that an attack/threat automatically needs a counter attack.
I'm talking about when Israel defended itself from attacks from Syria, Egypt and Jordan combined. What does that have to do with Nazis? Heck, why not, I'm a Zionazi! Happy? I'm an evil bastard, trying to throw all the Arabs into the sea, which is why I'm currently living in a dorm-room where half the students are Arabs, and surprisingly none of us care. I guess I forgot up until now. Please wait while I go and commit some mass-murder, as any Zionazi would!
Well, they're currently building a huge frekkin wall around the whole west bank...very similar to what the nazis did in Warzaw.
But seriously, how the hell can you even think of defending Israel. Yes they were attacked first, but that's because they occupied foreign land.
They didn't occupy it, it was given to them. And the wall is to seperate between Israel and the Palestinian territories. It's more like the Berlin wall than the ghettos. And I live in Israel, hence my pro-Israeli bias.
Exactly, my fellow Israeli :D
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