It's official: New York City Approves Soda Ban

I don't get why anyone would consume wasteful calories in a drink, about 140 per 12oz soda. If I ever drink soda it's diet or 0 calories. Regular sodas are even too sweet for me now.

But this is expected of NY when I went there a year and a half ago a pack of cigarettes cost $9.50, at CVS. In CA they are like $4.95. A 20 oz coke is 240 calories and a 16 oz coke is 187 calories. Its a 22% reduction in calories which is pretty good. But banning 20 oz just to ban an extra 53 calories isn't that persuasive to me. The real goal is probably to get the fat people to realize that the government can and will try and make you skinny, if they can so they are more aware and start to lose weight.

Like fat people gotta realize it ain't good to be fat. People don't like it and neither does the government. Stop being fat.

[QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

Stop letting the govermnet stick its hands in your lives and make your own decisions. stopping sales of 20+ oz drinks solves nothing

wis3boi

not saying they should go all out protest, but dumping coke in boston harbor would be funny

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="Sajo7"] I think you are going to have a hard time convincing people to protest over four ounces of soda. Not that I wouldn't love to see that protest, Coca-Cola can sponsor them!Sajo7

not saying they should go all out protest, but dumping coke in boston harbor would be funny

Polar bears. We dress up like polar bears, raid the nearest ship, and dump the coke in the harbor.

I also say we tar and feather Bloomberg just for kicks.

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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

not saying they should go all out protest, but dumping coke in boston harbor would be funny

leviathan91

Polar bears. We dress up like polar bears, raid the nearest ship, and dump the coke in the harbor.

I also say we tar and feather Bloomberg just for kicks.

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]

[QUOTE="Sajo7"] The only question is how should this Coke Party dress?

Sajo7

Polar bears. We dress up like polar bears, raid the nearest ship, and dump the coke in the harbor.

I also say we tar and feather Bloomberg just for kicks.

Or ban polar bears. Then we're truly screwed.

This is a good start.

Obesity is one of the biggest problems facing America today.

Fat People use more of everything, which puts a strain on all resources.

In 1911 the worlds Fattest man appeared at the Worlds Fair. He weighed 360lbs.

A hundred years later we have:

"Mr. Bloomberg has said the plan does not limit consumers choices, since customers can still purchase as many 16-ounce drinks as they would like."

It does limit choices... If someone wants a 20oz, then how does buying 2 16oz bottles solve their problem? They want 20oz, not 32...

It's less convenient to buy two bottles instead of one. And if people end up buying 2 bottles instead of 1, then obviously it's not better for their health...

It's less convenient to buy two bottles instead of one. bloodling

[QUOTE="bloodling"]It's less convenient to buy two bottles instead of one. Nuck81

Indeed.

Fat People use more of everything, which puts a strain on all resources.Nuck81

[QUOTE="Nuck81"]Fat People use more of everything, which puts a strain on all resources.champion837

I don't really have an issue with this. *shrugs*

Aljosa23

Great article about the ban.

Aljosa23

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Great article about the ban.

rastotm

I think both sides can have decent arguments. What's best, convenience and freedom, or public health?

[QUOTE="rastotm"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Great article about the ban.

bloodling

I think both sides can have decent arguments. What's best, convenience and freedom, or public health?

[QUOTE="rastotm"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Great article about the ban.

bloodling

I think both sides can have decent arguments. What's best, convenience and freedom, or public health?

Just got back from McDonalds and enjoyed a 40oz coke in memory of new yorks past freedom.

Even though this ban has its flaws, it certainly does seem to have some advantages, although I don't see the point of banning them in stores. I do think that the "regular" soda offering in restaurants and cinemas should be what a regular, non-obese person would want, but why would they ban them from supermarkets? 1L bottles aren't banned from supermarkets...

what about two-liters are they banned, or does this ordinance not apply to grocery stores? 2 liters are bigger than 20 ounces I think, but 2 liters usually aren't drunk all at one time.whipassmt

2l is around 65oz i think, stupid law, same old politics, fixing the world one pointless ineffective law at a time

[QUOTE="DeX2010"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

NY continues to try to be CA's little brother in stupidity.

LJS9502_basic

While I agree that this is a dumb ban, he does bring up an extremely relevant and important point with portion sizes. Most restaurants you go out to eat at serve just enormous portion sizes and people feel compelled to eat what's on the plate simply because it's there.

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Great article about the ban.

rastotm

Horrible...

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="DeX2010"] Unlike some of CA's policies, this is actually a very good idea. Portion sizes have increased exponentially in the last 40 years, and all that sugar that the public consumes adds up to cause obesity. The sugar industry has a very powerful lobby in the US and UK, which is why measures such as this haven't been attempted before. I'm glad they are doing this. TacticalDesire

While I agree that this is a dumb ban, he does bring up an extremely relevant and important point with portion sizes. Most restaurants you go out to eat at serve just enormous portion sizes and people feel compelled to eat what's on the plate simply because it's there.

Just got back from McDonalds and enjoyed a 40oz coke in memory of new yorks past freedom.

Pirate700

Freedom isn't free (from type-2 diabetes). :P

Horrible...

kingkong0124

Horrible...

kingkong0124

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Horrible...

Aljosa23

I don't like having the government interfere with my personal choice.

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Yes let's all leave our decisions up to the government. It's not like another bottle can't be bought increasing portion size by more than 4 oz.:roll: People that want the government to do their thinking for them disgust me.LJS9502_basic

While I agree that this is a dumb ban, he does bring up an extremely relevant and important point with portion sizes. Most restaurants you go out to eat at serve just enormous portion sizes and people feel compelled to eat what's on the plate simply because it's there.

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Horrible...

kingkong0124

I don't like having the government interfere with my personal choice.

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Horrible...

kingkong0124

I don't like having the government interfere with my personal choice.

And the government has been interfering with personal choice for a long, long time.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]How so?

Aljosa23

I don't like having the government interfere with my personal choice.

No, I cannot drink as much as I want. Well I can, but I cannot necessarily purchase as much as I want. I can't buy 20 ounces if I want 20 ounces. I have to buy 32 ounces. I have to more money than I intended, and 12 ounces goes to waste unless I drink the entire 32 ounces (thus defeting the supposed purpose of this law).

And the government has been interfering with personal choice for a long, long time.

Yes they have, and that does not make it acceptable.

Other countries are getting Soda, AMERICA is banning it... (NY, lol)

These crazy lawmakers are going to far with Gov't power, it's insane.

Big Gov't, BIG Gov't, BIG GOV'T!

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BTW : I understand the reasoning behind the ban, but the Gov't is reaching too far into our lives more and more every year, and that's never good.

India and other countries are getting Soda, America is banning it...

These crazy lawmakers are going to far with Gov't power, it's insane.

SolidTy

America is not banning soda. Goddamn. Read the article.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Other countries are getting Soda, AMERICA is banning it... (NY, lol)

These crazy lawmakers are going to far with Gov't power, it's insane.

Big Gov't, BIG Gov't, BIG GOV'T!

worlock77

America is not banning soda. Goddamn. Read the article.

It's called Hyperbole, I read the article before I even posted lol.

Goddamn!!!!!! :lol:

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

I don't like having the government interfere with my personal choice.

worlock77

No, I cannot drink as much as I want. Well I can, but I cannot necessarily purchase as much as I want. I can't buy 20 ounces if I want 20 ounces. I have to buy 32 ounces. I have to more money than I intended, and 12 ounces goes to waste unless I drink the entire 32 ounces (thus defeting the supposed purpose of this law).

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

While I agree that this is a dumb ban, he does bring up an extremely relevant and important point with portion sizes. Most restaurants you go out to eat at serve just enormous portion sizes and people feel compelled to eat what's on the plate simply because it's there.

rastotm

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]This is a poor example of that. You can still drink as much as you want, there's just more barriers now.

rastotm

No, I cannot drink as much as I want. Well I can, but I cannot necessarily purchase as much as I want. I can't buy 20 ounces if I want 20 ounces. I have to buy 32 ounces. I have to more money than I intended, and 12 ounces goes to waste unless I drink the entire 32 ounces (thus defeting the supposed purpose of this law).

No, I cannot drink as much as I want. Well I can, but I cannot necessarily purchase as much as I want. I can't buy 20 ounces if I want 20 ounces. I have to buy 32 ounces. I have to more money than I intended, and 12 ounces goes to waste unless I drink the entire 32 ounces (thus defeting the supposed purpose of this law).

worlock77

You should read the second article I posted, it does a really good job in explaining why the ban is a good thing.

A brave step. I'm impressed.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

No, I cannot drink as much as I want. Well I can, but I cannot necessarily purchase as much as I want. I can't buy 20 ounces if I want 20 ounces. I have to buy 32 ounces. I have to more money than I intended, and 12 ounces goes to waste unless I drink the entire 32 ounces (thus defeting the supposed purpose of this law).

Aljosa23

You should read the second article I posted, it does a really good job in explaining why the ban is a good thing.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]This is a poor example of that. You can still drink as much as you want, there's just more barriers now.

rastotm

No, I cannot drink as much as I want. Well I can, but I cannot necessarily purchase as much as I want. I can't buy 20 ounces if I want 20 ounces. I have to buy 32 ounces. I have to more money than I intended, and 12 ounces goes to waste unless I drink the entire 32 ounces (thus defeting the supposed purpose of this law).

Yes, I realize that the law assumes that people need to be treated like children. The law should stop assuming that.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

No, I cannot drink as much as I want. Well I can, but I cannot necessarily purchase as much as I want. I can't buy 20 ounces if I want 20 ounces. I have to buy 32 ounces. I have to more money than I intended, and 12 ounces goes to waste unless I drink the entire 32 ounces (thus defeting the supposed purpose of this law).

Aljosa23

You should read the second article I posted, it does a really good job in explaining why the ban is a good thing.

Yes it can be. What of it? Is it the government's job to dictate how much we can eat or drink?

Government getting involved in personal choice is not a good thing. Isn't that what keeps gay marriage illegal? LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="rastotm"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Restaurants generally serve pop by the glass. You can of course get refills. As for fast food places which I assume you mean.....eat in and get free refills there as well. LJS9502_basic