No, I cannot drink as much as I want. Well I can, but I cannot necessarily purchase as much as I want. I can't buy 20 ounces if I want 20 ounces. I have to buy 32 ounces. I have to more money than I intended, and 12 ounces goes to waste unless I drink the entire 32 ounces (thus defeting the supposed purpose of this law).
worlock77
Once again, the law assumes (on the basis of research) that many people don't exactly know how much food they want or need. They simply buy a medium and are satisfied with this medium size. The research also suggests that the amount of soda in a medium can largely vary while still giving the feel that people had enough. So reducing the amount in a medium size would still satisfy the consumer while reducing the amount of intake and so reducing a slight bit of the over consumption problem.
Yes, I realize that the law assumes that people need to be treated like children. The law should stop assuming that.
So people who need to be treated like children, because they suck at taking care of themselves, should be free to be a huge cost on society?
[QUOTE="rastotm"] Once again, the law assumes (on the basis of research) that many people don't exactly know how much food they want or need. They simply buy a medium and are satisfied with this medium size. The research also suggests that the amount of soda in a medium can largely vary while still giving the feel that people had enough. So reducing the amount in a medium size would still satisfy the consumer while reducing the amount of intake and so reducing a slight bit of the over consumption problem.
rastotm
Yes, I realize that the law assumes that people need to be treated like children. The law should stop assuming that.
So people who need to be treated like children, because they suck at taking care of themselves, should be free to be a huge cost on society? You shouldn't put a price tag on people....
[QUOTE="NiKva"][QUOTE="MrPraline"]smh I don't think it will shock anyone that I'm heavily opposed to this. Its no secret that 99% soda runs through your veins. lol I rarely drink it actually, if ever also why is my avatar gone? GS!!
Government interfering in the voluntary exchange of resources between two entities. This is the main reason economic growth hasn't been as large as it could be.
I know a guy who has started a food business and is trying to do something for himself, but government requires that he sells his product only at certain places and only during specified times. He has an excellent product, but his locations and hours are severely limited by government so he hardly ever has customers. I asked him why he doesn't wholesale (to expand his business) and he explained that he couldn't because the government wouldn't grant him a license to do so (AKA government said he couldn't).
[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="NiKva"][QUOTE="MrPraline"]smh I don't think it will shock anyone that I'm heavily opposed to this. Its no secret that 99% soda runs through your veins. lol I rarely drink it actually, if ever also why is my avatar gone? GS!!I see it.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MrPraline"]smh I don't think it will shock anyone that I'm heavily opposed to this. What's next....limiting the amount of alcohol served?:o Don't even joke about that, lol.
Yes, I realize that the law assumes that people need to be treated like children. The law should stop assuming that.
LJS9502_basic
So people who need to be treated like children, because they suck at taking care of themselves, should be free to be a huge cost on society? You shouldn't put a price tag on people.... We put a price tag on many people, smokers and alcohol drinkers for example. Why should people who eat and drink unhealthy be a exception.
[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MrPraline"]smh I don't think it will shock anyone that I'm heavily opposed to this. What's next....limiting the amount of alcohol served?:o Don't even joke about that, lol. :lol: Well I hope not anyway....
[QUOTE="rastotm"] Once again, the law assumes (on the basis of research) that many people don't exactly know how much food they want or need. They simply buy a medium and are satisfied with this medium size. The research also suggests that the amount of soda in a medium can largely vary while still giving the feel that people had enough. So reducing the amount in a medium size would still satisfy the consumer while reducing the amount of intake and so reducing a slight bit of the over consumption problem.
rastotm
Yes, I realize that the law assumes that people need to be treated like children. The law should stop assuming that.
So people who need to be treated like children, because they suck at taking care of themselves, should be free to be a huge cost on society?
If people do not have the freedom to put whatever they wish into their own bodies than people have no real freedom period. Are we a free society or not?
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Government getting involved in personal choice is not a good thing. Isn't that what keeps gay marriage illegal? LJS9502_basic
How is that even the same thing? Government is making decisions for you and telling you what they allow. How is that NOT the same thing?What exactly is the point you're trying to make? That Government dictating what you can do is bad...alright. Yeah, and what now?
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="rastotm"] So people who need to be treated like children, because they suck at taking care of themselves, should be free to be a huge cost on society?
rastotm
You shouldn't put a price tag on people.... We put a price tag on many people, smokers and alcohol drinkers for example. Why should people who eat and drink unhealthy be a exception. Do we? Where do we limit the amount of cigarette's or alcohol purchased? The only time alcohol is a factor is if someone is too drunk. But I can certainly but quite a bit of alcohol at one time...not that I'm complaining.
[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]How is that even the same thing?
Aljosa23
Government is making decisions for you and telling you what they allow. How is that NOT the same thing?What exactly is the point you're trying to make? That Government dictating what you can do is bad...alright. Yeah, and what now? Then why do you agree with this law?
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="rastotm"] So people who need to be treated like children, because they suck at taking care of themselves, should be free to be a huge cost on society?
rastotm
You shouldn't put a price tag on people.... We put a price tag on many people, smokers and alcohol drinkers for example. Why should people who eat and drink unhealthy be a exception. Two wrongs do not make a right, bruv
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="NiKva"] Its no secret that 99% soda runs through your veins. lol I rarely drink it actually, if ever also why is my avatar gone? GS!!I see it. I only see a blank square.
[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="NiKva"][QUOTE="MrPraline"]smh I don't think it will shock anyone that I'm heavily opposed to this. Its no secret that 99% soda runs through your veins. lol I rarely drink it actually, if ever also why is my avatar gone? GS!! Its a glitch affecting random users. My avvy was gone, too, yesterday.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]And that is not the governments business. Period.thegerg
It's the governments job to protect it citizens. Whether the law is effective or not, the ultimate goal is to reduce the continuously growing obesity problem. Why would this problem not be a part of the governments job? "It's the governments job to protect it citizens." No, it's ht government's job to allow citizens to be as free as reasonably possible. Individual freedom has a cost on everyone. So one persons freedom may result in another mans loss, so protecting it's citizens is a critical job of the government.
[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="MrPraline"]smh I don't think it will shock anyone that I'm heavily opposed to this. Is your avatar blank or is it just on my end? I don't see it either :( I miss Lip
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Government is making decisions for you and telling you what they allow. How is that NOT the same thing?
LJS9502_basic
What exactly is the point you're trying to make? That Government dictating what you can do is bad...alright. Yeah, and what now? Then why do you agree with this law?Because I don't think this is a black and white issue and that the government is automatically bad and they shouldn't regulate stuff like this. In this case, I think the law is fine and only there to make it harder to buy the stuff...like a tax.
[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MrPraline"] lol I rarely drink it actually, if ever also why is my avatar gone? GS!!I see it. I only see a blank square. I see the avatar...dude with a cigarette.
[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="rastotm"] It's the governments job to protect it citizens. Whether the law is effective or not, the ultimate goal is to reduce the continuously growing obesity problem. Why would this problem not be a part of the governments job?
rastotm
"It's the governments job to protect it citizens." No, it's ht government's job to allow citizens to be as free as reasonably possible. Individual freedom has a cost on everyone. So one persons freedom may result in another mans loss, so protecting it's citizens is a critical job of the government. Situation A: I drink a liter of coke, in one enormous cup Situation B: I drink a liter, by consuming various smaller cans I would love to know who I'm hurting in A. Which losses to others am I causing, pray tell?
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] You shouldn't put a price tag on people....MrPraline
We put a price tag on many people, smokers and alcohol drinkers for example. Why should people who eat and drink unhealthy be a exception. Two wrongs do not make a right, bruv Why is it wrong to punish unhealthy behaviour?
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]What exactly is the point you're trying to make? That Government dictating what you can do is bad...alright. Yeah, and what now?
Aljosa23
Then why do you agree with this law?Because I don't think this is a black and white issue and that the government is automatically bad and they shouldn't regulate stuff like this. In this case, I think the law is fine and only there to make it harder to buy the stuff...like a tax. But that is not government's job.
[QUOTE="thegerg"] "It's the governments job to protect it citizens." No, it's ht government's job to allow citizens to be as free as reasonably possible. MrPraline
Individual freedom has a cost on everyone. So one persons freedom may result in another mans loss, so protecting it's citizens is a critical job of the government. Situation A: I drink a liter of coke, in one enormous cup Situation B: I drink a liter, by consuming various smaller cans I would love to know who I'm hurting in A. Which losses to others am I causing, pray tell? You didn't read provided research paper... People don't buy the second cup.
Cry about it all you want, but it's really obvious that the average person lacks self control and isn't bright enough to stay in shape, so somebody has to do something about it.
And knowing how fat the average gamer is, I'm not surprised at all that there are apologists on the side of Coke.
[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="rastotm"] It's the governments job to protect it citizens. Whether the law is effective or not, the ultimate goal is to reduce the continuously growing obesity problem. Why would this problem not be a part of the governments job?
rastotm
"It's the governments job to protect it citizens." No, it's ht government's job to allow citizens to be as free as reasonably possible. Individual freedom has a cost on everyone. So one persons freedom may result in another mans loss, so protecting it's citizens is a critical job of the government.I take it you are against social programs as well....since they cost other people.
[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="rastotm"] Individual freedom has a cost on everyone. So one persons freedom may result in another mans loss, so protecting it's citizens is a critical job of the government.
rastotm
Situation A: I drink a liter of coke, in one enormous cup Situation B: I drink a liter, by consuming various smaller cans I would love to know who I'm hurting in A. Which losses to others am I causing, pray tell? You didn't read provided research paper... People don't buy the second cup. Not true. I've seen people get refills.
[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="rastotm"] We put a price tag on many people, smokers and alcohol drinkers for example. Why should people who eat and drink unhealthy be a exception.
rastotm
Two wrongs do not make a right, bruv Why is it wrong to punish unhealthy behaviour? Because it's not the government's job. Maybe you are arguing for a nanny state that has its megalomaniacal tentacles in every aspect of your personal life, but others would rather be left alone.
[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="rastotm"] We put a price tag on many people, smokers and alcohol drinkers for example. Why should people who eat and drink unhealthy be a exception.
rastotm
Two wrongs do not make a right, bruv Why is it wrong to punish unhealthy behaviour? You should be out exercising not sitting at the keyboard. Should you be punished?
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Then why do you agree with this law?LJS9502_basic
Because I don't think this is a black and white issue and that the government is automatically bad and they shouldn't regulate stuff like this. In this case, I think the law is fine and only there to make it harder to buy the stuff...like a tax. But that is not government's job. When does something become the government's job, when you agree with the law?
[QUOTE="thegerg"] "It's the governments job to protect it citizens." No, it's ht government's job to allow citizens to be as free as reasonably possible. LJS9502_basic
Individual freedom has a cost on everyone. So one persons freedom may result in another mans loss, so protecting it's citizens is a critical job of the government.I take it you are against social programs as well....since they cost other people. The general idea behind social welfare is that it reduces long term costs.
[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="rastotm"] Individual freedom has a cost on everyone. So one persons freedom may result in another mans loss, so protecting it's citizens is a critical job of the government.
rastotm
Situation A: I drink a liter of coke, in one enormous cup Situation B: I drink a liter, by consuming various smaller cans I would love to know who I'm hurting in A. Which losses to others am I causing, pray tell? You didn't read provided research paper... People don't buy the second cup. Ok so I buy 20 cans from a supermarket. And don't even pretend this is about the economics of refills or whatever, rofl.
Cry about it all you want, but it's really obvious that the average person lacks self control and isn't bright enough to stay in shape, so somebody has to do something about it.
And knowing how fat the average gamer is, I'm not surprised at all that there are apologists on the side of Coke.
I rarely drink pop. But I still don't think government should limit it for those that do.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="rastotm"] Individual freedom has a cost on everyone. So one persons freedom may result in another mans loss, so protecting it's citizens is a critical job of the government.
rastotm
I take it you are against social programs as well....since they cost other people. The general idea behind social welfare is that it reduces long term costs. More and more people need help...and generations live on social programs...so I think that is a foolish idea. But that isn't the point. Social programs are a cost to society which you say you are against. Double standards?
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