Its things like these that make me think why do people have and support abortion

[QUOTE="gugler990"]

Just look at this twins they look so happy

I mean the Fetus never even got to laugh, eat, play and be love and people just threat there child like its food on the fridge that they dont want and get rid of it.

why not just get it adopted some people would be more happy to take care of it. its better if someone live its life with someone else who want it rather than being killed by someone who doesnt want it before it even got the chance.

Zyamaman

Because it's not your body, and you have absolutely NO authority to force a woman to undergo such an excruciatingly painful, potentially deadly experience as labors, sure as hell note on the grounds that "baby tweens are so cute :oops: ".

What you're doing here is called an emotional distortion, and it's a logical fallacy.

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Go ahead. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

Pixel-Pirate

So is an unwanted baby a parasite?

An unwanted fetus fits almost all criteria for a parasite. It might offend one, but it's there.

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]

I'm going to play devils advocate for a moment. What if you approve of abortion because it keeps the world's population down?

supa_badman

:lol: where does the .6 comes from?

[QUOTE="Zyamaman"]

[QUOTE="gugler990"]

Just look at this twins they look so happy

I mean the Fetus never even got to laugh, eat, play and be love and people just threat there child like its food on the fridge that they dont want and get rid of it.

why not just get it adopted some people would be more happy to take care of it. its better if someone live its life with someone else who want it rather than being killed by someone who doesnt want it before it even got the chance.

Rougehunter

Because it's not your body, and you have absolutely NO authority to force a woman to undergo such an excruciatingly painful, potentially deadly experience as labors, sure as hell note on the grounds that "baby tweens are so cute :oops: ".

What you're doing here is called an emotional distortion, and it's a logical fallacy.

not all parents are not in that situation. some are filfy rich people who just doesnt want a child so they cant continue having more sex and spend all there money. and in that situation with no money or anything to support a child you still have no right to take someones life

gugler990

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Go ahead. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

Pixel-Pirate

So is an unwanted baby a parasite?

An unwanted fetus fits almost all criteria for a parasite. It might offend one, but it's there.

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Go ahead. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

Pixel-Pirate

So is an unwanted baby a parasite?

An unwanted fetus fits almost all criteria for a parasite. It might offend one, but it's there.

That isn't always an option. Sometimes it is medically necessitated because the mother's life is at risk.

PannicAtack

That is not the reason for almost any abortion.

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

That isn't always an option. Sometimes it is medically necessitated because the mother's life is at risk.

Communistik

That is not the reason for almost any abortion.

[QUOTE="Communistik"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

That isn't always an option. Sometimes it is medically necessitated because the mother's life is at risk.

SeanDog123

That is not the reason for almost any abortion.

ITT: Typical liberal shenanigans.

[QUOTE="SeanDog123"][QUOTE="Communistik"]

That is not the reason for almost any abortion.

alexside1

[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="SeanDog123"] It's the reason for some, but that's beside the point. Every pregnancy takes some toll on the mother, and this is why she has every right to remove it.SeanDog123

You have to understand the other side, they see it as a human being. If you take that into account it's a lot more muddled.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

So is an unwanted baby a parasite?

alexside1

An unwanted fetus fits almost all criteria for a parasite. It might offend one, but it's there.

Dictionary.com

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

So is an unwanted baby a parasite?

SgtKevali

An unwanted fetus fits almost all criteria for a parasite. It might offend one, but it's there.

Then it fits the second definition of parasite. The fetus fits the first.

ITT: Typical liberal shenanigans.

Dystopian-X

I haven't seen anyone advocating to kill babies, could you show me where this is?

I see people advocating to remove a parasitic entity from ones body and it dies since it cannot exist outside of said body.

I have a solution. If you don't believe in abortion, then don't have one. wstfld

We have a winner.

[QUOTE="SeanDog123"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"] Says who?SgtKevali

You have to understand the other side, they see it as a human being. If you take that into account it's a lot more muddled.

I hate people that oppose abortion.

jstamm33

>_>

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="SeanDog123"] Says the basic right to remove something from your body which is causing you harm.

SeanDog123

You have to understand the other side, they see it as a human being. If you take that into account it's a lot more muddled.

Lol, you're using a pretty extreme example.

[QUOTE="SeanDog123"][QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

You have to understand the other side, they see it as a human being. If you take that into account it's a lot more muddled.

SgtKevali

Lol, you're using a pretty extreme example.

[QUOTE="SeanDog123"][QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

You have to understand the other side, they see it as a human being. If you take that into account it's a lot more muddled.

SgtKevali

Lol, you're using a pretty extreme example.

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="SeanDog123"] If I woke up in a hospital bed with tubes connecting me to some guy who needed to use my kidneys to survive, wouldn't I have the right to detach myself? The fact that its a human being doesn't really matter.PannicAtack

Lol, you're using a pretty extreme example.

So here is my personal plan to deal with abortion.

Illegalize Abortion.

All families who do not currently have a child must adopt at least one child, failure to do so will carry a penalty of up to 1,000,000 dollars and 10 years in jail.

The fine will help assure that the extra children who centers cannot afford to take care of, get the money to take care of it.

I haven't seen anyone advocating to kill babies, could you show me where this is?

I see people advocating to remove a parasitic entity from ones body and it dies since it cannot exist outside of said body.

Pixel-Pirate

Cool sense of correlation we got here.

Parasites are ppl too!

There are times when they inform the parents that the child will have a defects and the parents do abort that child. It's not just young people doing this. Some people feel they wouldn't be able to care or would not care properly for someone like that. Maybe they don't have the means to do so. And the notion that you could put the child into adoption; you do realize that not all children are adopted but go into foster care? What if the parents of the soon to be parent won't except it and kick their child out? Not everyone has accepting parents. I mean there could be nothing but a life of suffering for the soon to be. If this option were to be taken away what's to say people won't try to do it on their own? I mean when people couldn't find the means before isn't that why we have dumpster babies?

I'm not fond of abortion and I feel too many are using it as birth control in subsitution of contraceptives. However, I don't believe it is something that the government should be able to ban.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

I haven't seen anyone advocating to kill babies, could you show me where this is?

I see people advocating to remove a parasitic entity from ones body and it dies since it cannot exist outside of said body.

Dystopian-X

Cool sense of correlation we got here.

Parasites are ppl too!

I don't generally consider a parasite innocent as it can cause death and lowers the function of ones body and is there against the will of the host.

Just to keep things in balance, now that the thread is headed toward rock bottom. albatrossdrums

They forgot to draw the firearm :P

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

I haven't seen anyone advocating to kill babies, could you show me where this is?

I see people advocating to remove a parasitic entity from ones body and it dies since it cannot exist outside of said body.

Dystopian-X

Cool sense of correlation we got here.

Parasites are ppl too!

If only life was so simple that we could ban abortions and 'give the baby to someone who would love it their own and live happily ever after'. Unfortunately people are complex creatures, the world is overpopulated, pregnancy is both physically and emotionally demanding, everyone's situation is unique and people rightfully have the gift of choice. Cute baby vids are lovely, but……… really………..

[QUOTE="supa_badman"][QUOTE="Serraph105"]

I'm going to play devils advocate for a moment. What if you approve of abortion because it keeps the world's population down?

TheShadowLord07

:lol: where does the .6 comes from?

[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

[QUOTE="supa_badman"] You kidding me? North Americans are having, like, 1.6 kids per family. =\supa_badman

:lol: where does the .6 comes from?

No support for my proposed law?

It's probably the better choice for it and the parents. I know there is adoption, but for some people being pregnant might honestly ruin their life and dreams at that point.Ringx55

[QUOTE="Ringx55"]It's probably the better choice for it and the parents. I know there is adoption, but for some people being pregnant might honestly ruin their life and dreams at that point.foxhound_fox

And it's their choice to take the easy way out if they want to.

I don't see why it should be yours or anyone elses choice. I also don't see any logical way to solve the problem. The parents don't want it, telling them "Tough cookies" isn't going to make them want or like the kid.

The adoption centers simply can't hold 1.4 million extra children yearly, so that's not really a magical catch all. I suppose we could go for my proposed plan. Everyone must adopt a child or face jail time and fines. Or, if you prefer, everyone must donate to adoption centers/have highly raised taxes to pay for the children.

And it's their choice to take the easy way out if they want to.

I don't see why it should be yours or anyone elses choice. I also don't see any logical way to solve the problem. The parents don't want it, telling them "Tough cookies" isn't going to make them want or like the kid.

The adoption centers simply can't hold 1.4 million extra children yearly, so that's not really a magical catch all. I suppose we could go for my proposed plan. Everyone must adopt a child or face jail time and fines. Or, if you prefer, everyone must donate to adoption centers/have highly raised taxes to pay for the children.

Pixel-Pirate

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]And it's their choice to take the easy way out if they want to.

I don't see why it should be yours or anyone elses choice. I also don't see any logical way to solve the problem. The parents don't want it, telling them "Tough cookies" isn't going to make them want or like the kid.

The adoption centers simply can't hold 1.4 million extra children yearly, so that's not really a magical catch all. I suppose we could go for my proposed plan. Everyone must adopt a child or face jail time and fines. Or, if you prefer, everyone must donate to adoption centers/have highly raised taxes to pay for the children.

foxhound_fox

I don't hold a fetus in the same regard as a child. A child is a human being to me. A fetus is closer to a parasitic creature.

How is having the child born into a home thats poor, cannot feed them, and resents them, somehow going to be great for them? Also, I don't see how it's their fault if the condom or birth control failed. Thats like saying it's my fault if I die on a roller coaster because the restraints failed.

Also the taxes would not be for better care. It would be for care at all. Since 1.4 million EXTRA yearly is alot, and thats what the centers would get every year and if they have trouble taking care of it now, I can't see how they'll do it with a million more every year.

Billions of sperm have also never gotten the chance to eat, laugh, etc.

Billions of sperm have also never gotten the chance to eat, laugh, etc.

urdead18

[QUOTE="urdead18"]

Billions of sperm have also never gotten the chance to eat, laugh, etc.

alexside1

I really don't like either side of this argument. PannicAtack

I pretty much never weigh in on abortion debates because my position tends to be in the middle and thus makes both sides hate me. :P

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]I really don't like either side of this argument. GabuEx

I pretty much never weigh in on abortion debates because my position tends to be in the middle and thus makes both sides hate me. :P

So yeah, I hate it.

[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="urdead18"]

Billions of sperm have also never gotten the chance to eat, laugh, etc.

PannicAtack

Not only that but it's unlikely that the eventual child would be welcomed into a loving home like those cute twins in the video.

Next time I'll be more direct. Sorry.

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]I really don't like either side of this argument. GabuEx

I pretty much never weigh in on abortion debates because my position tends to be in the middle and thus makes both sides hate me. :P

Billions of sperm have also never gotten the chance to eat, laugh, etc.urdead18

- I don't hold a fetus in the same regard as a child. A child is a human being to me. A fetus is closer to a parasitic creature.

- How is having the child born into a home thats poor, cannot feed them, and resents them, somehow going to be great for them? Also, I don't see how it's their fault if the condom or birth control failed. Thats like saying it's my fault if I die on a roller coaster because the restraints failed.

- Also the taxes would not be for better care. It would be for care at all. Since 1.4 million EXTRA yearly is alot, and thats what the centers would get every year and if they have trouble taking care of it now, I can't see how they'll do it with a million more every year.

Pixel-Pirate

Here's my dumb idea: fund medical research to find new medical procedures that make abortions unnecessary in any instance.PannicAtack