Its things like these that make me think why do people have and support abortion

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]I really don't like either side of this argument. PannicAtack

I pretty much never weigh in on abortion debates because my position tends to be in the middle and thus makes both sides hate me. :P

So yeah, I hate it.

Well the thing I always find about abortion debates is that there tends to be only two positions someone can take according to either side: you either support murdering babies or you hate women. The absolute refusal to even acknowledge the point of view of the other side is what I find so maddening.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]I really don't like either side of this argument. alexside1

I pretty much never weigh in on abortion debates because my position tends to be in the middle and thus makes both sides hate me. :P

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

I pretty much never weigh in on abortion debates because my position tends to be in the middle and thus makes both sides hate me. :P

GabuEx

So yeah, I hate it.

Well the thing I always find about abortion debates is that there tends to be only two positions someone can take according to either side: you either support murdering babies or you hate women. The absolute refusal to even acknowledge the point of view of the other side is what I find so maddening.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]- I don't hold a fetus in the same regard as a child. A child is a human being to me. A fetus is closer to a parasitic creature.

- How is having the child born into a home thats poor, cannot feed them, and resents them, somehow going to be great for them? Also, I don't see how it's their fault if the condom or birth control failed. Thats like saying it's my fault if I die on a roller coaster because the restraints failed.

- Also the taxes would not be for better care. It would be for care at all. Since 1.4 million EXTRA yearly is alot, and thats what the centers would get every year and if they have trouble taking care of it now, I can't see how they'll do it with a million more every year.

foxhound_fox

Here's my dumb idea: fund medical research to find new medical procedures that make abortions unnecessary in any instance.PannicAtack

A baby is the second definition of parasite. It does not require direct sustanance from a host to survive, and it is no longer attached to (physically) or inside the host, so it is not the ****c definition of parasite.

Again, who is paying for these centers? Do you think adoption centers run on hugs and kisses and that all the food and bed is free? They struggle to even care for the current amount. Now they have to have over double extra yearly to support and you think it'll just happen? No, they will collapse under the weight unless you want to force people to adopt/force them to donate.

When you can quintuple the amount of adoptive parents per year, call me. Untill then "Just adopt" isn't a good suggestion.

Untill then "Just adopt" isn't a good suggestion.

Pixel-Pirate

I hate people that oppose abortion. What your saying is that if a girl were to get raped, she can't decide to abort it? Thats when we get people getting them done with rusty hangars and dying. What if it were your daughter that got raped? Would you still be pro-life? The decision should be the mothers..Or what if there was a miscarrage and the doctors told you that your daughter would die if she didn't get an abortion? This situations happen more than you think.

jstamm33

Billions of sperm have also never gotten the chance to eat, laugh, etc.

urdead18

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]Untill then "Just adopt" isn't a good suggestion.

foxhound_fox

"Just deal with it" is a nice sentiment but good luck enforcing to population with it. Because they arn't going to accept that.

[QUOTE="jstamm33"]

I hate people that oppose abortion. What your saying is that if a girl were to get raped, she can't decide to abort it? Thats when we get people getting them done with rusty hangars and dying. What if it were your daughter that got raped? Would you still be pro-life? The decision should be the mothers..Or what if there was a miscarrage and the doctors told you that your daughter would die if she didn't get an abortion? This situations happen more than you think.

JudgementEden

Well at least that's consistent, unlike the people who support an exception in the case of rape, which is something I have never understood (considering that they say they oppose abortion because it's murder).

[QUOTE="urdead18"]

Billions of sperm have also never gotten the chance to eat, laugh, etc.

wstfld

[QUOTE="jstamm33"]

I hate people that oppose abortion. What your saying is that if a girl were to get raped, she can't decide to abort it? Thats when we get people getting them done with rusty hangars and dying. What if it were your daughter that got raped? Would you still be pro-life? The decision should be the mothers..Or what if there was a miscarrage and the doctors told you that your daughter would die if she didn't get an abortion? This situations happen more than you think.

JudgementEden

[QUOTE="jstamm33"]

I hate people that oppose abortion. What your saying is that if a girl were to get raped, she can't decide to abort it? Thats when we get people getting them done with rusty hangars and dying. What if it were your daughter that got raped? Would you still be pro-life? The decision should be the mothers..Or what if there was a miscarrage and the doctors told you that your daughter would die if she didn't get an abortion? This situations happen more than you think.

JudgementEden

To be honest, if I was a woman who was raped and my father tried to stop me from getting something out of me that I did not consent to, do not want, and would put me spiraling into a deep suicidal depression if I was forced to keep, I'd probably disown him.

[QUOTE="JudgementEden"][QUOTE="jstamm33"]

I hate people that oppose abortion. What your saying is that if a girl were to get raped, she can't decide to abort it? Thats when we get people getting them done with rusty hangars and dying. What if it were your daughter that got raped? Would you still be pro-life? The decision should be the mothers..Or what if there was a miscarrage and the doctors told you that your daughter would die if she didn't get an abortion? This situations happen more than you think.

GabuEx

Well at least that's consistent, unlike the people who support an exception in the case of rape, which is something I have never understood (considering that they say they oppose abortion because it's murder).

[QUOTE="JudgementEden"][QUOTE="jstamm33"]

I hate people that oppose abortion. What your saying is that if a girl were to get raped, she can't decide to abort it? Thats when we get people getting them done with rusty hangars and dying. What if it were your daughter that got raped? Would you still be pro-life? The decision should be the mothers..Or what if there was a miscarrage and the doctors told you that your daughter would die if she didn't get an abortion? This situations happen more than you think.

Pixel-Pirate

To be honest, if I was a woman who was raped and my father tried to stop me from getting something out of me that I did not consent to, do not want, and would put me spiraling into a deep suicidal depression if I was forced to keep, I'd probably disown him.

But, they are not parasites in the same way a tick is, or a tapeworm. To even compare a baby to such is ridiculous, and makes your argument even more ridiculously stupid. You implied earlier that a fetus can kill you because of the nutrients they take.

First off, WHEN have you heard of a person dying because of the Baby taking resources? Huh? Never? Meanwhile, people die all the time from real parasites, most parasites are very deadly. And once again, you're going to compare a Baby, oh im sorry, FETUS, to a REAL deadly parasite!?

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="JudgementEden"] Why do people keep using this stupid argument? If my daughter was raped, yes I would try to make her keep the baby. A baby shouldn't be punished because of someone else. The baby is not the man that raped her. Abortion, under ANY circumstance, is wrong.JudgementEden

Well at least that's consistent, unlike the people who support an exception in the case of rape, which is something I have never understood (considering that they say they oppose abortion because it's murder).

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="JudgementEden"] Why do people keep using this stupid argument? If my daughter was raped, yes I would try to make her keep the baby. A baby shouldn't be punished because of someone else. The baby is not the man that raped her. Abortion, under ANY circumstance, is wrong.JudgementEden

To be honest, if I was a woman who was raped and my father tried to stop me from getting something out of me that I did not consent to, do not want, and would put me spiraling into a deep suicidal depression if I was forced to keep, I'd probably disown him.

1. You say it's a self created definition but then admit it's true, plus I gave reference to where I got the definition.

2. Yes, wanted or unwanted are parasites. You should have the right to decide if you want a parasite in your body.

3. A fetus is not a baby to me, so I never compared a baby to a tick.

4. I never implied such a thing. I said you can die from it, which you can. Complications due to pregnancy and child birth. My sister almost died due to these, so I can assure you they happen.

5. Yes, I am comparing a fetus (not a baby) to a parasite, because by definition and your own admition, they are the same.

[QUOTE="JudgementEden"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Well at least that's consistent, unlike the people who support an exception in the case of rape, which is something I have never understood (considering that they say they oppose abortion because it's murder).

Snipes_2

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Here's my dumb idea: fund medical research to find new medical procedures that make abortions unnecessary in any instance.foxhound_fox

That should be the ultimate goal... but as of right now, premature birth care is incredibly far off. Not to mention the technology required to remove and preserve a feotus. The thing is, as soon as this technology comes into fruition, abortion supporters are going to look like massive hypocrites when they start supporting it.

Because "abortion supporters" don't exist.

Well, perhaps you can point to a handful of crazies, or maybe some people in China, but the point is, "pro-choice" does not equate to "I support abortions." And there's tonsof hypocrisy in the pro-life movement.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]Untill then "Just adopt" isn't a good suggestion.

foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]Untill then "Just adopt" isn't a good suggestion.

foxhound_fox

Just look at this twins they look so happy

I mean the Fetus never even got to laugh, eat, play and be love and people just threat there child like its food on the fridge that they dont want and get rid of it.

why not just get it adopted some people would be more happy to take care of it. its better if someone live its life with someone else who want it rather than being killed by someone who doesnt want it before it even got the chance.

gugler990

There haven't already been enough abortion threads for the TC to use to get some insight? Or maybe he was just trying to announce he is anti-abortion because it makes him feel like a "good person". Lame either way.

Someone post a video of a cute cow and ask how you can eat burgers when you see a video like that.

I don't know why people are against abortion/killing babies. Ugh, filthy little snub-cheeked devils who do nothing but defecate all over the place and scream like insane drugged monkeys :x