I've finally figured out the 3 bands that completely killed rock/sub genres

[QUOTE="dante_123456"]

it's crazy how simple this is, like jesus, you could play that with your eyes close, right?

pianist

One could place bets on just how many times they would repeat exactly the same short motive. I think you're over-estimating the skill required to do what you see in this link. Yes, it's beyond the capabilities of most people who play electric guitar, but frankly, most people who play electric guitar NEVER get any sort of decent instruction on the instrument, don't practice consistently, and don't know how to practice properly even when they do. So as a result, people look at clips like this and think the playing is exceptional.

It really isn't as difficult as it looks. And frankly, having worked with music and having taught it for years, I can assure you that musical sensitivity is much more difficult to develop than technique. A musician who can play with true sensitivity is worth much, much more than a musician who can play fast, and though it certainly doesn't look like it, playing sensitively demands much finer technical control than playing rapidly... especially when you're playing mostly repetitive motives in closed positions like in your clip.

It depends what music do you make. Im sure most of those "sensitive musicians" cant play like this.

The Cure - Responsible for the emo silliness

Slayer/Cannibal Corpse - Now I like a few metal bands like Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax, Pantera, Judas Priest and Motorhead but those are worlds apart from every other band classified as metal. These 2 came along with the horrible screamo growl and have created a disturbing genre of music.

PsychoT4Prez

I dont care much about Corpse but I do like Skull Full Of Maggots but whats wrong with Slayer? You like three famous thrash bands but your missing Slayer. And please dont say screamo because their vocal styles arn't like that. And metal is not rock unless your talking about some early bands such as Sabbath.

The Cure are not even close to emo.

Anyways, i bet you can't even name ONE emo band, because anything you hear on the mainstream is not emo. Real emo music is much better and not simillar to the pop-punk trash of today's mainstream scene.

The Cure are not even close to emo.

Anyways, i bet you can't even name ONE emo band, because anything you hear on the mainstream is not emo. Real emo music is much better and not simillar to the pop-punk trash of today's mainstream scene.

Gaber1999

So... what would you call emo? Just curious

Can someone tell me what the hell Circa Survive is? I thought progressive but someone told me they were emo. Which was upsetting and I don't believe it.

[QUOTE="Azurr"][QUOTE="soren008"][QUOTE="Azurr"][QUOTE="soren008"]

The Cure are far from emo

emo has taken all honest anxietys and self destructive lyrics from amazing songwriters like Morrissey and turned it into a vile manufactured image

with no substance

The Cure have an honesty and a warmth in comparison to those whiney american bands

redstormrisen

What emo bands are you talking about?

My Chemical Romance, Fall Out Boy would be the most obvious ones that springs to mind

Yeah, that's pop-punk, not emo.

I direct you to "three cheers for sweet revenge". Its what I take as emo, along with a lot of other people.

along with another bunch of ignorant people who cared to misslabel an everyday pop band.

[QUOTE="Gaber1999"]

The Cure are not even close to emo.

Rites of Spring, Fugazi, CapnJazz, Sunny Day Real Estate. I bet you havent heard of any of those despite the fact that those are the bands that define the emo genre.

Fallout boy is pop-punk and My Chemical Romance is a combination of post-hardcore and poppunk. Now how about you name same "emo" bands.

Anyways, i bet you can't even name ONE emo band, because anything you hear on the mainstream is not emo. Real emo music is much better and not simillar to the pop-punk trash of today's mainstream scene.

Azurr

So... what would you call emo? Just curious

It depends what music do you make. Im sure most of those "sensitive musicians" cant play like this.

rom11

:lol:

Maybe you should know what you're talking about before you post this. I can assure you that great musicians are as capable of playing technically well as they are of playing sensitively. Remember - the foundation of sensitivity IS technical control. Don't believe me? Then watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0kr_VcKESk

Parts are sensitive, other parts are virtuosic. It's just an example of how the two can be mixed. And what this guy's doing is far more difficult than that rock piece.

The Cure - Responsible for the emo silliness

Slayer/Cannibal Corpse - Now I like a few metal bands like Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax, Pantera, Judas Priest and Motorhead but those are worlds apart from every other band classified as metal. These 2 came along with the horrible screamo growl and have created a disturbing genre of music.

PsychoT4Prez

I suggest you learn how to dodge t3h fl4mez

Need I post more?

freek666

Please do.

i'm not over estimating anything. he said it is just playing a bunch of random notes, and basically beating their guitar, and i'm proving to him that no it is not.

dante_123456

Really? It didn't seem like that's what you what you guys were discussing. He wrote that it's not complex or creative, but just fast. Your post implied that it's not simple, and also suggested that it's extremely difficult music to play (all with a healthy dose of sarcasm). The thing is this music is very simple at its core. Like almost all popular music, it's steeped heavily in the idea of repeating short motives and features limited rhythmic and harmonic variety. The fact that it sounds complex is related only to the speed at which the notes are played. But speed obviously doesn't equate to complexity.

In any event, what he and other people usually mean when they say it's just 'playing random notes' is that it SOUNDS like it's a mush of random notes. And oftentimes with metal, that's exactly what it sounds like - a wave of continuously loud noise that just keeps going on and on. Part of that is because of terrible balance that seems to be an epidemic in the world of metal performance (do these guys even listen to each other?), and part of it is the lack of variety in the compositions and the instrumentation.

In music, it's the overall effect that matters most. Most people don't really care if music is complex or not (even people for whom complexity is valued). What they care about is how it sounds, and they'll describe it how they hear it. If all you hear is a jumble of notes, it may as well be random. The effect is the same.

:lol:

Maybe you should know what you're talking about before you post this. I can assure you that great musicians are as capable of playing technically well as they are of playing sensitively. Remember - the foundation of sensitivity IS technical control. Don't believe me? Then watch this:

Parts are sensitive, other parts are virtuosic. It's just an example of how the two can be mixed. And what this guy's doing is far more difficult than that rock piece.

pianist

You are comparing Cannibal Corpse with Chopen...? Well, can you call this sensitive? I don't really know what you call sensitive, can't fast music be sensitive?